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General Topics => Political Discussion => Topic started by: ren on November 29, 2024, 06:43:06 PM

Title: $2M to family of homeless man
Post by: ren on November 29, 2024, 06:43:06 PM
I always wonder where the family is when a person is homeless.
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2024/11/30/jury-awards-more-than-2m-family-homeless-man-killed-by-deputy-sheriff-capitol/
Title: Re: $2M to family of homeless man
Post by: QUIETShooter on November 29, 2024, 08:03:37 PM
WTF???!!!

2M of taxpayer money goes to a "family" who probably didn't give a f*ck about this guy until there is a money grab opportunity.

What shameless people. 
Title: Re: $2M to family of homeless man
Post by: mrgaf on November 29, 2024, 09:07:23 PM
Typical banana republik at it’s best….. :wave:
Title: Re: $2M to family of homeless man
Post by: oldfart on November 30, 2024, 03:56:18 AM
I always wonder where the family is when a person is homeless.
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2024/11/30/jury-awards-more-than-2m-family-homeless-man-killed-by-deputy-sheriff-capitol/
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Exactly
Title: Re: $2M to family of homeless man
Post by: Heavies on December 02, 2024, 04:56:18 AM
Incentives for criminal behavior. Do bad stuff, get paid by the state. 
Title: Re: $2M to family of homeless man
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on December 02, 2024, 01:49:11 PM
Incentives for criminal behavior. Do bad stuff, get paid by the state.

In this particular case;  Do bad stuff, get your surviving family members paid.

 :geekdanc: :wave:
Title: Re: $2M to family of homeless man
Post by: changemyoil66 on December 02, 2024, 03:42:38 PM
In this particular case;  Do bad stuff, get your surviving family members paid.

 :geekdanc: :wave:

Why spend money on life insurance?  Esp if you're black. It pays to get shot by cops.
Title: Re: $2M to family of homeless man
Post by: zippz on December 02, 2024, 04:22:27 PM
Wonder how the family won.  Usually it's to cover the financial support that was lost or pain and suffering.  Can't see that applying to a drug addicted homeless person.
Title: Re: $2M to family of homeless man
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on December 02, 2024, 04:41:31 PM
Wonder how the family won.  Usually it's to cover the financial support that was lost or pain and suffering.  Can't see that applying to a drug addicted homeless person.

My guess is the estate of the deceased sued.  Whoever the beneficiaries of the estate are would share in the windfall -- including 1/3 going to the lawyers if using the customary formula.
Title: Re: $2M to family of homeless man
Post by: eyeeatingfish on December 08, 2024, 01:33:46 AM
WTF???!!!

2M of taxpayer money goes to a "family" who probably didn't give a f*ck about this guy until there is a money grab opportunity.

What shameless people.

I met a homeless lady once who had a real alcohol problem. Her family was somewhat well off from what I heard and they would repeatedly bring her supplies, take her in to get cleaned up and try to get her into treatment but she always chose alcohol and the streets. I have no idea about this particular person but in my experience homeless people are often homeless through their own making not because the family didn't care enough to help.
Title: Re: $2M to family of homeless man
Post by: oldfart on December 08, 2024, 04:01:16 AM
I met a homeless lady once who had a real alcohol problem. Her family was somewhat well off from what I heard and they would repeatedly bring her supplies, take her in to get cleaned up and try to get her into treatment but she always chose alcohol and the streets. I have no idea about this particular person but in my experience homeless people are often homeless through their own making not because the family didn't care enough to help.
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This is also true. Many times homeless folk are like that because they chose poorly. However I highly doubt that the surviving family suffered 2 million in damages. Furthermore, even if they did expend money to help this person, the general public is not responsible for their problem.
Title: Re: $2M to family of homeless man
Post by: QUIETShooter on December 08, 2024, 09:54:06 AM
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This is also true. Many times homeless folk are like that because they chose poorly. However I highly doubt that the surviving family suffered 2 million in damages. Furthermore, even if they did expend money to help this person, the general public is not responsible for their problem.

You are a wise person, oldfart.

There are certain people and certain circumstances that force me to tell them "Please don't make your problem my problem".

I also in turn do not impose my problems on others unless it is warranted.
Title: Re: $2M to family of homeless man
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on December 08, 2024, 10:26:53 AM
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This is also true. Many times homeless folk are like that because they chose poorly. However I highly doubt that the surviving family suffered 2 million in damages. Furthermore, even if they did expend money to help this person, the general public is not responsible for their problem.

Absolutely.

Maybe they were receiving and spending his social security benefits.  With him gone, the SS deposits stopped, so obviously you factor in the benefit money in today's value plus the cost of living adjustments and inflation to bump it up over his estimated years remaining.

Add to that the lawyer fees, and they may have been "injured" financially to the tune of $2M - 33% for lawyers = $1,340,000.  Never mind the detail that it wasn't their money to begin with.  But, if they needed that money to pay their bills and were counting on it, it's still a bite taken out of their income.

Just looking at it from the Local Liberal mindset.  That $2M is not hurting anyone -- it's just government money.  I don't know how many times I've heard that rationalization.

Hawaii does have a lottery.  It's called the civil court system.  Sue and win a bundle!!
Title: Re: $2M to family of homeless man
Post by: Heavies on December 08, 2024, 10:38:49 AM
The seriously mentally ill cannot be forced to receive treatment, the self imposed drug and alcohol addicted refuse to be treated, the genuinely down on their luck slip though the cracks overwhelmed by the other two.

The state enables by funding it all, through the hard working taxpayers monies.

IMO, if the first two can be dealt with, with actual seriousness, the last would be an easy fix.

However, the homeless industrial complex has grown so lucrative, the politicians and those whose profitability are funded by the “unsolvable problem” will never allow real solutions. 

This country is plagued by these “industrial complexes”.  Military, social, and pharmaceutical. 
Once these complexes are dismantled, this is when MAGA can be restored. 
Title: Re: $2M to family of homeless man
Post by: eyeeatingfish on December 10, 2024, 12:59:17 AM
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This is also true. Many times homeless folk are like that because they chose poorly. However I highly doubt that the surviving family suffered 2 million in damages. Furthermore, even if they did expend money to help this person, the general public is not responsible for their problem.

This is true, I think it hard for them to claim they suffered 2 million in damages. There are other types of reasons money can be rewarded such as a punishment against the party getting sued