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General Topics => Political Discussion => Topic started by: macsak on January 06, 2025, 05:31:42 PM

Title: HAPPENING NOW: It Begins! National Concealed Carry Bill INTRODUCED!!!
Post by: macsak on January 06, 2025, 05:31:42 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=np-PLjBPBfE
Title: Re: HAPPENING NOW: It Begins! National Concealed Carry Bill INTRODUCED!!!
Post by: mrgaf on January 06, 2025, 06:55:44 PM
The government may be able to control some of us some of the time but not all of us all of the time. Sheeple will ALWAYS capitulate to the will of “big brother”……. ;)
Title: Re: HAPPENING NOW: It Begins! National Concealed Carry Bill INTRODUCED!!!
Post by: hvybarrels on January 06, 2025, 08:54:28 PM
For the first time in my life I feel a sudden urge to visit Las Vegas
Title: Re: HAPPENING NOW: It Begins! National Concealed Carry Bill INTRODUCED!!!
Post by: changemyoil66 on January 07, 2025, 07:38:31 AM
For the first time in my life I feel a sudden urge to visit Las Vegas

It's very easy to get a Vegas CCW.

Take an approved class. We went to Frank "The Tank" Abbot at Battlefield LV. He's an approved instructor.

Submit paperwork at Metro station.  1 year it took us 12 mins to submit, pay, finger printed, and photo taken. Post covid in about 2021, it took about 1.5hours due to the RSVP system and increase in people getting them. I look at it like I saved money by not being on the craps table for 1.5 hours that day. Or....did I miss out on a hot shooter during that time?

It gets mailed to you in 120 days.

So u won't have a Nevada CCW that trip, but for your next one you will.
Title: Re: HAPPENING NOW: It Begins! National Concealed Carry Bill INTRODUCED!!!
Post by: changemyoil66 on January 07, 2025, 07:38:44 AM
Won't make it to Trumps desk due to RINO's.
Title: Re: HAPPENING NOW: It Begins! National Concealed Carry Bill INTRODUCED!!!
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on January 07, 2025, 10:57:57 AM
Won't make it to Trumps desk due to RINO's.

Maybe there are enough 2A supporters on both sides of the Congressional aisle to pass it?

There actually are 2A supporters on the (D) side, but they have to be willing to vote their beliefs vs. (a) voting with their party and (b) voting for a bill that will be a win for President Trump.  Some Congress Critters would rather drink an acid cocktail than cast a vote that gives Trump a victory.
Title: Re: HAPPENING NOW: It Begins! National Concealed Carry Bill INTRODUCED!!!
Post by: changemyoil66 on January 07, 2025, 11:47:52 AM
Maybe there are enough 2A supporters on both sides of the Congressional aisle to pass it?

There actually are 2A supporters on the (D) side, but they have to be willing to vote their beliefs vs. (a) voting with their party and (b) voting for a bill that will be a win for President Trump.  Some Congress Critters would rather drink an acid cocktail than cast a vote that gives Trump a victory.

If we go by the 1st and only other time that it passed 1 committee, then no, there aren't enough 2A supporters to make it to Trumps desk. Last time the GOP controlled both senate and house too.
Title: Re: HAPPENING NOW: It Begins! National Concealed Carry Bill INTRODUCED!!!
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on January 07, 2025, 04:29:41 PM
If we go by the 1st and only other time that it passed 1 committee, then no, there aren't enough 2A supporters to make it to Trumps desk. Last time the GOP controlled both senate and house too.

Trump can't run for another term.  I think the need to make him look ineffective is less now than it was in his first term.
Title: Re: HAPPENING NOW: It Begins! National Concealed Carry Bill INTRODUCED!!!
Post by: oldfart on January 07, 2025, 05:04:26 PM
The video has nothing to do with national ccw, as far as I can see.
It discusses J6.
What am I missing?
Title: Re: HAPPENING NOW: It Begins! National Concealed Carry Bill INTRODUCED!!!
Post by: RSN172 on January 07, 2025, 05:22:11 PM
The video has nothing to do with national ccw, as far as I can see.
It discusses J6.
What am I missing?

I came to the same conclusion.  Sick of all the click bait bullshit on YouTube.

Title: Re: HAPPENING NOW: It Begins! National Concealed Carry Bill INTRODUCED!!!
Post by: macsak on January 07, 2025, 05:32:20 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yE7s5ndxXRc
Title: Re: HAPPENING NOW: It Begins! National Concealed Carry Bill INTRODUCED!!!
Post by: macsak on January 07, 2025, 05:33:16 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duKTgM5CC7s
Title: Re: HAPPENING NOW: It Begins! National Concealed Carry Bill INTRODUCED!!!
Post by: oldfart on January 07, 2025, 06:01:56 PM
Ie. Don't hold your breath.  :rofl:
Title: Re: HAPPENING NOW: It Begins! National Concealed Carry Bill INTRODUCED!!!
Post by: zippz on January 07, 2025, 06:26:28 PM
Only takes 60 votes in the senate.  How hard could it be?
Title: Re: HAPPENING NOW: It Begins! National Concealed Carry Bill INTRODUCED!!!
Post by: QUIETShooter on January 07, 2025, 06:54:39 PM
Only takes 60 votes in the senate.  How hard could it be?

Funny what money can do.
Title: Re: HAPPENING NOW: It Begins! National Concealed Carry Bill INTRODUCED!!!
Post by: RSN172 on January 07, 2025, 07:38:15 PM
Only takes 60 votes in the senate.  How hard could it be?
Extremely difficult, going by past history.  Even if it did pass Hawai’i will make some unconstitutional laws
and let it take 10 years to get to SCOTUS.
Title: Re: HAPPENING NOW: It Begins! National Concealed Carry Bill INTRODUCED!!!
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on January 08, 2025, 12:01:18 AM
Extremely difficult, going by past history.  Even if it did pass Hawai’i will make some unconstitutional laws
and let it take 10 years to get to SCOTUS.
There's a case being reviewed for a possible SCOTUS hearing that resulted from all the anti-Bruen anti-gun laws passed at the state level such as sensitive places laws that include 90% of the state's real estate.  This case in particular is Gray v. Jennings in the state of Delaware.

In broad terms, it allows the federal courts to provide injunctive relief when a new state law violates gun owners' rights under the Second Amendment.
Quote
The lawsuit asks a federal court to ensure that the People of Delaware may
exercise their Second Amendment rights by declaring that the ban violates
the Second and Fourteenth Amendments and enjoining the Defendants from
enforcing the ban.
https://www.saf.org/gray-v-jennings/

In other words, if the court finds the law in question violates the Bruen decision, it can't be enforced.  That's different than the current situation in which federal and state firearms laws are treated apart from each other, and any state laws that violate the Constitution could take decades for any federal action to remedy it.

https://www.saf.org/saf-files-federal-lawsuit-challenging-delaware-gun-ban/
Title: Re: HAPPENING NOW: It Begins! National Concealed Carry Bill INTRODUCED!!!
Post by: hvybarrels on January 08, 2025, 12:21:18 AM
Extremely difficult, going by past history.  Even if it did pass Hawai’i will make some unconstitutional laws
and let it take 10 years to get to SCOTUS.


We're one week into 2025 and it's already obvious this is one of those years when decades happen.

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