Does this mean it's going to go to the gov desk to be signed as the next step?
This is fucked up.
Does this mean it's going to go to the gov desk to be signed as the next step?
This is fucked up.
Does this mean it's going to go to the gov desk to be signed as the next step?
This is fucked up.
Question: if this does (but hopefully not) pass, are currently owned firearm’s grandfathered?Yes,but not mags.
Question: if this does (but hopefully not) pass, are currently owned firearm’s grandfathered?
Yes,but not mags.
And ur rifle can never leave the state and return.
And if ur rifle length is less than 30 inches, so a bulpup like a tavor is, its classified as an assault rifle.
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So all currently owned mags will need to be blocked?
we are the second most restricted and probably the 1st safest state and they still find a need to take from us. whats next our 1st ammendment rights?
So all currently owned mags will need to be blocked?
Yes and done before the bills effective date. So if it becomes effective the day Green signs it, you are a felon if you didn't block them once his sig has been completed so the "N" in Green.Unless the mag in question is disassembled and remains so unless taken out of state before assembling.
U also cannot ever take your guns out of state. So no out of state repair, hunting, competitions, etc...
You will have to have your mags blocked or already shipped out of state, or destroyed.
Unless the mag in question is disassembled and remains so unless taken out of state before assembling.
Disassembled parts kits are not capable of holding any ammo rounds.
Please correct me if mag parts or parts kits are included in the ban.
i heard them call it a loophole. sounds like they are pulling out all the tricks for this one.
“Bi-partisan support”
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2025/04/18/local-vets-gun-safety-advocates-emphasize-dangers-assault-weapons/
i heard them call it a loophole. sounds like they are pulling out all the tricks for this one.
The Veteran is back on TV=============
This time he is a "group" somehow
Maybe the news got confused by his they/them pronouns
https://www.kitv.com/news/veterans-advocating-for-gun-safety-push-for-assault-weapon-ban-in-hawaii/article_57368a52-e260-484d-9d58-229ed9ffc584.html
Is he a real Veteran?
Did anyone vet the vet?
He may be real or he may be just another phony prop of the left.
Vets. when I saw the headline I was expecting a large group of vets. Looks like one, maybe two.David Berkowitz, aka Son of Sam serial killer, was an Army veteran. He committed 6 murders and inflicted injuries on 7 other victims.
David Berkowitz, aka Son of Sam serial killer, was an Army veteran. He committed 6 murders and inflicted injuries on 7 other victims.
Gary Ridgway, aka The Green River Killer, was a Navy veteran. He was sentenced to life in prison for 49 murders.
Jeffrey Dahmer was an army veteran. He killed 17 men/boys and was convicted of 15 of them when sentenced to life in prison
Timothy McVeigh was a decorated Army veteran who served in the Gulf War and Operation Desert Storm. He murdered 168 people and injured more than 600 others in the OKC bombing.
While i see military service as a positive thing, it by no means gives anyone special status in civilian affairs -- especially when it comes to them attacking constitutionally protected rights such as the right to keep and bear arms.
Being a veteran doesn't make any gun control advocate less wrong, just like military service doesn't make serial killers and mass murderers less wrong.
U left out Lee Harvey Oswald...oh wait, he didn't shoot JFK....oh snap. #noteverythingisaconspiracyI left out about a dozen others i could have named among who knows how many. I just wanted to make a point.
In all seriousness, this is very good info and an angle I never thought of before. I may mention it in testimony next year cause the vet always brings up that he's a vet.
another thought, see how they set up the mic's for him. This further shows it's a coordinated attack on our 2a. Has HIFICO ever been given a bunch of mic's on a stand?
#noteverythingisaconspiracy
After everything we’ve seen so far I’d say it’s time to retire that hashtag
Is he a real Veteran?
Did anyone vet the vet?
He may be real or he may be just another phony prop of the left.
“Bi-partisan support”I see he had the rifle range all to himself to do the advertisement.
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2025/04/18/local-vets-gun-safety-advocates-emphasize-dangers-assault-weapons/
He was a blackhawk pilot. He crashed his helicopter and got a bronze star.
Is there a public session for this sense senate did not accept the bill?
No. It's behind closed doors and not broadcast.
Communist State.
The head chair of JHA (Tarnas) said on the news that this isn't a "gut and replace" bill and that it followed it's proper channels and can be successfully defended per the AG's office in court....
The additions are so huge that it didn't get any senate committee hearings or public input on it. Instead, the senate head chairs, who are anti 2A will get to decide if it's OK (Rhodes and Elefante). Others may be present, but IDK. If the vice chair for JDC is present, that's Gabbard and he has been a friend to the 2A. I'm hoping he would bring up the major concerns if he gets a voice. The senate PSM vice chair is Wakai, who's anti 2A. So Gabbard would still be outnumbered.
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Which news organization broadcast this? When?
I don't remember, but it was the one that had Jon Abbot from HIFICO talking and showing a rifle and mag. IIRC, Darryl Huff was holding a M14.=======
The head chair of JHA (Tarnas) said on the news that this isn't a "gut and replace" bill and that it followed it's proper channels and can be successfully defended per the AG's office in court.
The additions are so huge that it didn't get any senate committee hearings or public input on it. Instead, the senate head chairs, who are anti 2A will get to decide if it's OK (Rhodes and Elefante). Others may be present, but IDK. If the vice chair for JDC is present, that's Gabbard and he has been a friend to the 2A. I'm hoping he would bring up the major concerns if he gets a voice. The senate PSM vice chair is Wakai, who's anti 2A. So Gabbard would still be outnumbered.
Latest update on this backdoor, against the will of the locals, paid for, anti 2a, AWB of Hawaii
https://www.khon2.com/local-news/hawaii-assault-weapons-ban-necessary-or-posturing/
A gun control bill that has drawn recent attention is at a critical point in the State Legislature.
Advocates are pushing for it to move forward before a deadline on April 23 while opponents warn it could hurt responsible gun owners.
Federal judge says New Jersey’s ban on AR-15 rifles is unconstitutional
The bill would ban the future sale and transfer of assault rifles and shotguns in Hawaii and would mark one of the most sweeping gun restrictions proposed in years.
Notice that this article was "produced in partnership" with https://economichardship.org/about-ehrp/
https://www.kitv.com/news/legislative-deadline-to-hear-assault-weapons-ban-bill-approaching/article_dfa91899-8872-4031-889f-eac4d4be6496.html
Rhodes says when asked about mag grandfather clause "why, bump stocks didn't have a grandfather clause".
This is why it's important to fight against EVERY anti 2A bill, not just the ones that affect you.
if this passes, will mainland vendors, e.g. Brownells, etc, stop selling parts for AR's to Hawaii? like barrels, BCG's, triggers, buffer tubes, buttstocks, ... detents, etc.?
I'm guessing their lawyers will tell them to to err on the side of litigation caution?
Does this bill affect detachable mags use in bolt action rifles too?
Yes, any rifle mag over 10 rds.
New draft CD1, inheritance is added for "assault rifles". But not for mags.
About 20 pro 2A in person at the hearing and like 10 anti 2A.
Next is a senate floor vote. The senate president can still kill the bill by not allowing the floor vote. He was trying to get mags grandfathered as well. Thanks to HIFICO director John Abott who spend time talking with him in person about this bill.
Garcia was the only no vote for the bill.
I'm just curious if all the "Molon Labe/I will not comply" people will actually follow through with their declaration of non-compliance or if it's just empty words.
Well I cannot buy a whole ton of P mags nowwell, there's always the ten-round P-mags. yeah, that's a really lame come-back, sorry.
Well I cannot buy a whole ton of P mags now
This is where it also gets confusing.. Even though this bill is aimed at semi-auto rifles and semi-auto shot guns. There is also bolt action AR style rifles. That has folding stocks, has detachable mags, threaded barrels, threaded muzzle, pistol grips, and thumbholes. Are these type of firearms affected too? What about muzzle brakes? I mean it's like flash hiders/ suppressors (if that what it means). This bill seems like a sneeky backdoor altogether. friggin ban everything already. I mean anything that can become a weapon. Knives, hammer, bats, automobiles, pens, pencils, forks, spoons. Oh wait, all these is utterly useless without a operator.
Aw man.. So say this bill passes, do we get to shoot our semi rifles at the range? I’m getting kinda on the paranoid of buying any firearm related stuff now. How bout bolt action styles rifles with ar style grips (im actually was about to purchase another one with a 10 round mag)? Will those type of firearms be affected too? I mean who knows nowadays with all this infringements here in Hawaii. Just like they like band everything.
https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1Az3dajKgS/I called my senator for district 14, Donna Mercado Kim. Had a long talk with the person who takes message for her. And listened to everything I had 10 mins opposing this HB401 bill. She was very polite and said she'll relay the message.
also contact senate president kouchi...
You can shoot it at a range.
Main things you can't do with it is hunt on public land, take it to the police station, or take it out of state and bring it back.
You actually cannot shoot it at the range because no range is a licensed shooting range. They get a permit to build, but no license is issued.
So no one can shoot their semi auto rifle eff 1/1/26.
Also, there is no exception for the film industry, so any movie that uses a semi auto rifle won't be allowed, including built to use blanks.
You actually cannot shoot it at the range because no range is a licensed shooting range. They get a permit to build, but no license is issued.
So no one can shoot their semi auto rifle eff 1/1/26.
Backdoor activities, just like making doo doo, stinks to high heaven.
Either our political leaders are too stupid to understand Flapp's post on CDC's stats, or they just are ignoring the facts to push their agenda.
I mean, we all know they are stupid, but in this case they are ignoring the facts.
If this bill passes into law, we may be stuck with it for a while. Until SCOTUS takes it up on this or something similar.
There will be no TRO or preliminary injunctions in Hawaii to stop it since Duncan v Bonta sets the losing precedent in the 9th Circuit.
Hawaii currently has a magazine ban (pistol) and assault pistol ban lawsuits on hold pending Duncan.
SCOTUS might not take up Marylands Snopes v Brown AWB appeal which is under their review, since there is no circuit court split. All the appeals have been lost nationwide when it comes to the AWB. A split in wins/losses across the nation is one of major decision factors SCOTUS uses. I think SCOTUS will eventually take a case, but it could be a long time until then.
what about gut and replace aspect? tarnas admited as much on the news. took the text from one bill that already died and inserted into this one.
what about gut and replace aspect? tarnas admited as much on the news. took the text from one bill that already died and inserted into this one.
On the bright side the cleanup of the judiciary has started. Hopefully a sign of many more to come.
https://apnews.com/article/immigration-judge-arrested-7997186bbca5730e70a25f2347e631f6
That's horrible. One day there will be a democrat president and the Judiciary stopping the executive branch is the only thing stopping losing all 2a rights.
There is a reason there are checks and balances.
That's horrible.
We locals GOT SOLD OUT! Our rights were SOLD by this Ca$hMoney Sistah!
You should complain to the Governor.
What's the odds this passes? I've done as much as I can but I am powerless in the end.
Gov is a 100% sign right?
That's horrible. One day there will be a democrat president and the Judiciary stopping the executive branch is the only thing stopping losing all 2a rights.
There is a reason there are checks and balances.
OK. How do I do that without ending up killed in a strange bicycle accident? The Governor hired her right? That's just like complaining to Nino Brown that one of his CMB associates is selling crack on the street.
You attack first. Instead of waiting for dem run you ova, you run dem ova with yoa bicycle wen you see dem walking on da sidewalk.
As you apologize and help dem up, give um one earful about yoa 2A rights.
How can I attack an Imperial AT-AT with a bicycle?
I think there are lots of questions for Moms Demand Attention Hawaii Chapter Erica Yamauchi
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2025/04/25/assault-rifle-ban-heading-full-legislative-votes/
“This is one step I think we can take to prevent more gun violence in the future. And we don’t want to wait until we have another mass shooting, right? We want to act now,” said Erica Yamauchi of the Hawaii Chapter of Moms Demand Action.
Because you are Chinese, you will figure out a way. Be like water my friend.
My guess the reason they are taking this heavy-handed and obviously-illegal approach is that they have been briefed on serious disruptions coming within a matter of months.
When the housing crash finally arrives it's going to wipe out the banking industry, and the resulting food scarcity will result in a significant breakdown in the rule of law.
What they should have done is to sanction local militias and beefed up local agriculture, but they were addicted to Federal Reserve money printing scams.
They won't be able to hold it all together when it falls, and when the paychecks start bouncing a lot of cops will choose free agency in order to feed their families.
Plan accordingly.
I guess I’m gonna keep calling my district senator again this Monday to remind them. Vote no to SB401. Is there other we should be calling?
I'll leave this here, there is probably a better spot for this, but this seems like it fits here.
https://mauinow.com/2025/04/26/maui-police-release-video-seek-help-to-identify-suspects-involved-in-armed-robberies/
We don't need guns guys, the police protect us /s
“A store employee confronted the suspects, who then fled on a single electric bicycle without obtaining any money, according to police.”
Now that’s some balls there.
Gotta ban dem e-bikes. Those things are destroying the morals of our young people.....
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Lol. Funny but not really. I have personally witnessed rude and disrespectful behavior of kids on ebikes in my neighborhood. I do have pictures to prove it too.
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Lol. Funny but not really. I have personally witnessed rude and disrespectful behavior of kids on ebikes in my neighborhood. I do have pictures to prove it too.
I guess I’m gonna keep calling my district senator again this Monday to remind them. Vote no to SB401. Is there other we should be calling?
Hello All: Senator Mike Gabbard responded to an email I sent, and indicated that he has been, and remains a strong NO vote on SB401.
So we for sure have at least one patriot to stand with us in the Senate.
He’s the only one to respond to me. I pass this on so you know where he stands and can consider it in your communications.
More importantly though, this shows that the “all Senators” email address works! This address, on the Senate webpage, is:
sens@capitol.hawaii.gov
This is awesome, as the Senate is our best chance to stop this, so please take advantage of this up to the wire.
Mahalo
Has anyone tried ti contact the DOJ 2A task force yet or asked about it? Gut and replace bills to defraud the public and bypass the legislative procedures and the will of the people to violate protected constitutional rights is pretty much up their alley...
Gabbard has been a friend to the 2A. He voted no on all anti 2A bills this session and prior years too.
Gabbard has been a friend to the 2A. He voted no on all anti 2A bills this session and prior years too.
Gabbard has previously voted for mag bans. This time he’s voting no on this bill. He’s as usual, like his daughter, flip floppy. This time he’s responding he opposes. That might be because he knows it’s going to pass, but he wants to keep gun owners votes in his fairly conservative district.
A few questions for the group:
SB401: "any firearm with a capacity of over 10 rounds". What does this even mean? Pistols can have a capacity of over 10 rounds. What am I missing?
If you had to stock up, what would you grab?
My possible plan:
- beretta a300 UP or 1301
- extra AR15 lower or two
- ruger 10/22
- some 10 round pmags AR
What would you add?
A few questions for the group:rookie numbers!
SB401: "any firearm with a capacity of over 10 rounds". What does this even mean? Pistols can have a capacity of over 10 rounds. What am I missing?
If you had to stock up, what would you grab?
My possible plan:
- beretta a300 UP or 1301
- extra AR15 lower or two
- ruger 10/22
- some 10 round pmags AR
What would you add?
rookie numbers!
think "Lifetime Supply".
half dozen or more. if you're going to go through all the trouble of HPD permit, registration, parking, standing in line, jumping through hoops, make it worth your while. throw in a couple of AR-10 lowers, just for future dreams. don't forget to get some in Flat Dark Earth (FDE). Black guns under the Hawaii sun get really hot when sitting out there on the open range, maybe not so in the KHSC shade, though, admittedly.
especially since AR-15 lowers are going for between $50 and $100 each, depending on how picky you are for branding.
just my 2 cents.
Watch the senate action here https://www.youtube.com/live/7rvuALTCzG8?si=UsUVovDpIHZPn_UM (https://www.youtube.com/live/7rvuALTCzG8?si=UsUVovDpIHZPn_UM)thanks for posting.
Call your house reps and if you already did call another!
We need to keep the pressure on because guess what, it's going to be the same thing next year.
Follow up with this: https://www.justice.gov/ag/media/1395956/dl?inline
Here's an update, https://www.civilbeat.org/2025/04/in-last-minute-drama-legislature-shelves-bill-to-ban-assault-weapons/key excerpts:
Richards and Sen. Brandon Elefante said at the briefing that they would work on the assault weapons bill over the interim. Technically, SB 401 remains alive for the 2026 session or if a special session is held later this year, as seems likely.
House lawmakers also recommitted the assault weapon bill, shelving it for the year it since it could not pass without the support of the Senate.
Other than the gun and HECO bills, there was little discussion of dozens of other measures approved Wednesday. The House and Senate will reconvene Friday for final votes on the last day of the session.
https://www.instagram.com/jonwebsterabbott/p/DJG_ya6RGus/ (https://www.instagram.com/jonwebsterabbott/p/DJG_ya6RGus/)
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2025/05/03/hawaii-lawmakers-wrap-up-session-now/
House Vice Speaker Linda Ichiyama noted the size of the workload in the restricted four-month session.
“We can always do better, but we do have real constraints that we have to work with,” she said.
Even more constraints may be coming from the Trump administration in the form of federal funds, so lawmakers were warned to keep dates open in November for a special session.
#immadoctor is salivating to ban the 2a
I thought blangiardi was different, but man was I wrong.
I know a guy who worked for him and said he needs a wheelbarrow to help carry his ego around with him. He’s very easy to rile up and has to work very hard to stay in control of his temper. There was a clip of him confronting a citizen journalist asking tough questions where he almost lost it and got physical. Would be a shame if someone pushed him too far in front of a camera and people got to see what he’s really all about.
I thought blangiardi was different, but man was I wrong.
i've told the story previously, but he got in my face while we were talking calmly, and i didn't back down
he then broke off the confrontation by saying "i feel intimidated"
when his whole cabinet was standing behind him and there were 10-12 cops in the room
those of you who have met me IRL would know that i am not an intimidating figure, especially to an east coast former college athlete...
I thought blangiardi was different, but man was I wrong.===========
i've told the story previously, but he got in my face while we were talking calmly, and i didn't back down
he then broke off the confrontation by saying "i feel intimidated"
when his whole cabinet was standing behind him and there were 10-12 cops in the room
those of you who have met me IRL would know that i am not an intimidating figure, especially to an east coast former college athlete...
Both of them, take off their glasses before they go at it.
"those of you who have met me IRL would know that i am not an intimidating figure"
Typical bully. He's not anti-him having a gun. He's anti-you having a gun.
Typical bully and also typical of the majority of politicians out there. The only way they can blow 100% smoke up the a$$es of citizens is by dis-arming them.therefore, the acronym, "BOHICA". maybe they should put that on the state seal, motto.
That way the citizens, even though they are aware of the BS, has no choice but to bend over and take it.
Typical bully and also typical of the majority of politicians out there. The only way they can blow 100% smoke up the a$$es of citizens is by dis-arming them.
That way the citizens, even though they are aware of the BS, has no choice but to bend over and take it.
Unfortunately Green and Blangiardi have very high approval ratings so they will keep their jobs for a while. Support from government employees, seen as charging ahead to get things done, and fighting for the people of Hawaii.
That's the public perception.