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Title: Alex Jones VS Piers Morgan
Post by: ifight2protect on January 07, 2013, 06:29:03 PM
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Title: Re: Alex Jones VS Piers Morgan
Post by: ren on January 07, 2013, 06:55:38 PM
I dunno. Alex went off the deep end a bit.
Title: Re: Alex Jones VS Piers Morgan
Post by: ifight2protect on January 07, 2013, 07:08:08 PM
I dunno. Alex went off the deep end a bit.

LOL maybe when he started talking in a British accent... Part 1 was pretty good though. What I like the most is he shut him out on his own show. Piers just wanted to bring up the firearms deaths in Briton while ignoring the fact that violent crime rose. I think Alex is right when he says the problem is all the drugs and anti-psychotics people are taking that  are conveniently left out of the conversation when guns are involved... Even if he didn't use those terms.   
Title: Re: Alex Jones VS Piers Morgan
Post by: Inspector on January 07, 2013, 07:17:22 PM
I dunno. Alex went off the deep end a bit.
Yeah, the conspiracy Theory stuff about 9/11 turned me off to the whole interview. To me he came off as a nut job after he Piers directed him to that subject.
Title: Alex Jones VS Piers Morgan
Post by: TeamMidori on January 07, 2013, 07:21:36 PM
That was pretty nuts
Title: Re: Alex Jones VS Piers Morgan
Post by: Haoleb on January 07, 2013, 07:25:53 PM
I thought the end of part 2 was hilarious
Title: Re: Alex Jones VS Piers Morgan
Post by: ifight2protect on January 07, 2013, 07:31:08 PM
Yeah, the conspiracy Theory stuff about 9/11 turned me off to the whole interview. To me he came off as a nut job after he Piers directed him to that subject.

That is why I think they broke it down to two parts.
Title: Re: Alex Jones VS Piers Morgan
Post by: xer 21 on January 07, 2013, 07:33:04 PM
Yeah, the conspiracy Theory stuff about 9/11 turned me off to the whole interview. To me he came off as a nut job after he Piers directed him to that subject.
that's because he is a nutjob. 
Title: Re: Alex Jones VS Piers Morgan
Post by: ifight2protect on January 07, 2013, 07:44:53 PM
that's because he is a nutjob.

Just because some of the things he says and believes may be a out there, it doesn't mean the premise of his argument doesn't have merit. As for the 9/11 stuff I for one do not believe it was an inside job, but I have seen some interesting things that I could see how people come to that determination. That crap is all over the place and in the end it is up to the consumer to determine what they believe or not.
Title: Re: Alex Jones VS Piers Morgan
Post by: armsinc on January 07, 2013, 08:04:32 PM
the end was funny ....he has a point if you dont like our gun laws go back to England.... but i dont think that that helped our cause
Title: Re: Alex Jones VS Piers Morgan
Post by: xer 21 on January 07, 2013, 08:55:26 PM
Just because some of the things he says and believes may be a out there, it doesn't mean the premise of his argument doesn't have merit. As for the 9/11 stuff I for one do not believe it was an inside job, but I have seen some interesting things that I could see how people come to that determination. That crap is all over the place and in the end it is up to the consumer to determine what they believe or not.
its not that i dont think he doesnt make some good points, at least on this subject.

but a broken clock is right twice a day.

his conspiracy theory crap removes any credibility he would have in a debate.  thats just how it is.  i just cant take him seriously.  he has some good ideas and stuff, but he ruins it for himself with his paranoia.

that's just my opinion. 
Title: Re: Alex Jones VS Piers Morgan
Post by: ifight2protect on January 07, 2013, 09:27:43 PM
its not that i dont think he doesnt make some good points, at least on this subject.

but a broken clock is right twice a day.

his conspiracy theory crap removes any credibility he would have in a debate.  thats just how it is.  i just cant take him seriously.  he has some good ideas and stuff, but he ruins it for himself with his paranoia.

that's just my opinion.

Only to those who don't look at the whole picture. He makes money that way. Will it help in the Gun Debate... No. But what will possibly air on CNN that will? His theatrics in the second part are what ruined it because he was acting like a child. His paranoia only seems that much more extreme with how he is acting. Look at some of the information he presents through other forums and it doesn't seem so crazy, mostly because it usually involves some sort of reference.

Let me ask you something. Do you believe in everything that you are fed by the media or the government?

This segment amounts to what all 24 hour media outlets are... entertainment.
Title: Re: Alex Jones VS Piers Morgan
Post by: armsinc on January 07, 2013, 09:40:00 PM


Let me ask you something. Do you believe in everything that you are fed by the media or the government?



he quotes FBI (government) statics .... he believes the government  !!!!!
Title: Re: Alex Jones VS Piers Morgan
Post by: Cougar8045 on January 07, 2013, 09:49:53 PM
the end was funny ....he has a point if you dont like our gun laws go back to England.... but i dont think that that helped our cause
And that is exactly why Morgan brought him on the show.  What credibility does he have to talk about the Second Amendment?  I mean, sure, he's a big Constitutional rights guy, but there are hundreds of other guys out there who head up organizations that focus exclusively on the topic of the interview.  It doesn't matter if Jones made good points or shut the limey up on his own show; all the viewers saw was some guy who's purportedly a representative of the pro-gun side, raving like a lunatic.  Even if Piers hadn't opened his mouth, this whole interview was a loss for the pro-civil rights crowd.
Title: Re: Alex Jones VS Piers Morgan
Post by: ifight2protect on January 07, 2013, 09:58:14 PM
he quotes FBI (government) statics .... he believes the government  !!!!!

My question had nothing to do with Alex Jones personal beliefs. However, that wouldn't necessarily indicate believing the government. It is more of an attempt of using the information the government is putting out against those in the government who say absurd things about assault weapons. I don't know what Alex Jones believes truly. I am sure much of the stuff he latches on to he does so because there is a market for it.

I asked the question because I think people should be skeptical of any source of information.
Title: Re: Alex Jones VS Piers Morgan
Post by: ifight2protect on January 07, 2013, 10:04:01 PM
And that is exactly why Morgan brought him on the show.  What credibility does he have to talk about the Second Amendment?  I mean, sure, he's a big Constitutional rights guy, but there are hundreds of other guys out there who head up organizations that focus exclusively on the topic of the interview.  It doesn't matter if Jones made good points or shut the limey up on his own show; all the viewers saw was some guy who's purportedly a representative of the pro-gun side, raving like a lunatic.  Even if Piers hadn't opened his mouth, this whole interview was a loss for the pro-civil rights crowd.

It undoubtedly played to how those that are anti-gun would like to portray pro gun individuals. We have already been labeled racist fear monger lunatics. I don't think most people see gun owners as crazy regardless of this show... because I think most people own guns or know normal people that do and understand the premise of defending ones self and family. Though I do believe people are getting confused with what they are presented non stop in school and in the media. Just like Eric Holder said, they want to "brainwash" children. As I said before i think the 1st part is where the message was mostly on topic. After the break it got out of control. That is why most of the conservative sites are only linking to the first video.
Title: Re: Alex Jones VS Piers Morgan
Post by: xer 21 on January 07, 2013, 10:33:43 PM


Let me ask you something. Do you believe in everything that you are fed by the media or the government?

This segment amounts to what all 24 hour media outlets are... entertainment.
no, i dont.  i've established here that i think news is only good for entertainment.

and i think that's all alex jones is too.  entertainment, but not the kind i like.

im just not a fan of conspiracy theories. 
Title: Re: Alex Jones VS Piers Morgan
Post by: ifight2protect on January 07, 2013, 10:50:31 PM
no, i dont.  i've established here that i think news is only good for entertainment.

and i think that's all alex jones is too.  entertainment, but not the kind i like.

im just not a fan of conspiracy theories.

Yeah, some of them are way out there, but I guess things like fast and furious would be just conspiracy theories if people wouldn't have gone public. I mean who would think that people would actually try to get innocent people killed to push an agenda? Especially in the justice department.
Title: Re: Alex Jones VS Piers Morgan
Post by: hvybarrels on January 08, 2013, 12:00:14 AM
Conspiracies are bs. Why would the most powerful people in the world get together to screw everyone over? That would never happen.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libor_scandal (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libor_scandal)


Everything is exactly as it seems. Watch more tv. Find some people who you can look down on and make fun of them. The psychiatrist is on call 24 hours a day if you need something to help you sleep. Now you can always be cheerful and productive at your job. Have a nice day.
Title: Re: Alex Jones VS Piers Morgan
Post by: 230RN on January 08, 2013, 12:04:59 AM
Not one (or 2) I'd like to forward to anyone.  However, I sorta liked that he was reversing the interruption tactic used by most anti-gun "interviewers."
Title: Re: Alex Jones VS Piers Morgan
Post by: xer 21 on January 08, 2013, 08:49:35 AM
Yeah, some of them are way out there, but I guess things like fast and furious would be just conspiracy theories if people wouldn't have gone public. I mean who would think that people would actually try to get innocent people killed to push an agenda? Especially in the justice department.
yeah, but if anyone is going to break the news, he's not the one im expecting to do it.

Title: Re: Alex Jones VS Piers Morgan
Post by: Cougar8045 on January 08, 2013, 09:28:02 AM
As much as I hate to ever agree with Piers Fecking Morgan, he and I are on the same page: "He was the best advertisement for gun control you could wish for," Morgan told POLITICO. (http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2013/01/exclusive-piers-morgan-discusses-alex-jones-153617.html)

Title: Re: Alex Jones VS Piers Morgan
Post by: 2aHawaii on January 08, 2013, 09:32:38 AM
I watched a little bit of the first segment and just had to stop. It was almost as if the tables had turned 180 degrees from his usual gun interviews. Now Piers wasn't the raving lunatic, it was Jones. Sad, but not every speaker can be good one.
Title: Re: Alex Jones VS Piers Morgan
Post by: buckjay on January 08, 2013, 10:27:54 AM
Pretty sure this is exactly what Piers wanted. Alex is a raving lunatic and I'd say he invited him onto his show with the sole purpose of trying to paint the pro gun people as raving lunatic conspiracy theorists.
Title: Re: Re: Alex Jones VS Piers Morgan
Post by: ifight2protect on January 08, 2013, 10:36:48 AM
Pretty sure this is exactly what Piers wanted. Alex is a raving lunatic and I'd say he invited him onto his show with the sole purpose of trying to paint the pro gun people as raving lunatic conspiracy theorists.
  If you read the article Cougar posted that is pretty much what Piers says.
Title: Re: Alex Jones VS Piers Morgan
Post by: buckjay on January 08, 2013, 10:50:04 AM
Apologies, didn't see that. I see the interviews prominently displayed on CNN too, I'm sure they're loving it.
Title: Re: Alex Jones VS Piers Morgan
Post by: abakja1 on January 08, 2013, 10:53:00 AM
Everyone should know that this is what Piers Morgan does, as he is all about ratings and emotional responses.  He is estatic about the list to get expunged out of the US going around.
Also, everyone going on his show should expect a confrontation as stating or not stating facts to get a "rise" out of the debate and the public as that is what he wants. 
I just ignore the validity of his show, as just like Howard Stern's show it is just to get ratings and nothing more...

Title: Re: Alex Jones VS Piers Morgan
Post by: hvybarrels on January 08, 2013, 11:20:46 AM
Why would anyone deliberately expose their consciousness to these two baffoons? I've seen enough of both of them to know there is pretty much zero value in their exchange. At least youtube cat videos are cute.
Title: Re: Alex Jones VS Piers Morgan
Post by: ifight2protect on January 08, 2013, 12:27:21 PM
Why would anyone deliberately expose their consciousness to these two baffoons? I've seen enough of both of them to know there is pretty much zero value in their exchange. At least youtube cat videos are cute.

Like this cat video? 

http://youtu.be/MCUnWIs88CQ (http://youtu.be/MCUnWIs88CQ)
Title: Re: Alex Jones VS Piers Morgan
Post by: BUD on January 08, 2013, 12:36:31 PM
Slow motion :)
Title: Re: Alex Jones VS Piers Morgan
Post by: roadster99 on January 08, 2013, 06:15:58 PM
Piers vs Boston (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/former-marine-vs-piers-morgan-on-guns-we-cant-give-up-our-rights-because-were-afraid/)

Good Watch!
Title: Re: Alex Jones VS Piers Morgan
Post by: GZire on January 09, 2013, 08:48:18 AM
If the modeling gig falls through she's got a future as a stripper.
Title: Re: Alex Jones VS Piers Morgan
Post by: 230RN on January 09, 2013, 08:52:45 AM
Slo mo seconded.
Title: Re: Alex Jones VS Piers Morgan
Post by: Gordyf on January 09, 2013, 02:14:13 PM
Pretty sure this is exactly what Piers wanted. Alex is a raving lunatic and I'd say he invited him onto his show with the sole purpose of trying to paint the pro gun people as raving lunatic conspiracy theorists.
Precisely what the media wanted. We will see this material again trust me. Morgan in the persona of this appearance will be marketed to the  public that doesn't know any better, as the face of the American gun owner.

He may possibly have done more damage to our cause than the shootings