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General Topics => Legal and Activism => Topic started by: Kalihi Uka on May 11, 2025, 06:09:02 PM

Title: Green’s national PAC with Everytown
Post by: Kalihi Uka on May 11, 2025, 06:09:02 PM
We really need to up our game against Everytown.  The only way to make the 2A safe here is literally make it like the “third rail” of Hawaii politics by actively, in a strategic fashion, pushing back against these guys.  It of course takes people power, not just on the defense against the attacks they lob at us in the legislature, but actively lobbying for Hawaii’s 2A rights and against these out-of-state ghouls etc.  Hopefully this is already happening behind the scenes such that a schmuck like me is clueless of it - in which case I’d be stoked to be corrected!

Here is comrade Green’s national PAC, set up while on Hawaii’s dime he was out promoting himself against RFK jr:

https://www.civilbeat.org/2025/05/hawai%ca%bbi-governor-creates-national-pac-to-support-pro-science-candidates/ (https://www.civilbeat.org/2025/05/hawai%ca%bbi-governor-creates-national-pac-to-support-pro-science-candidates/)

“The PAC, which includes a “Donate” link, lists three organizations it describes as partners: 314 Action, Protect Our Care and Everytown for Gun Safety. Protect Our Care is a nonprofit focused on health care, while 314 Action is a nonprofit PAC focused on electing Democrats with a background in science.  A spokesperson for Everytown for Gun Safety declined to comment about Heal America, and a press inquiry to 314 Action got no response.”

It seems reasonable to expect at some point for disarmament of Hawaii to be part of the Governor’s Package at the legislature, just as eliminating the religious exemption for childhood vaccines was this last session.
Title: Re: Green’s national PAC with Everytown
Post by: macsak on May 11, 2025, 07:38:18 PM
the governor had a package 2 years ago, most of which passed
and was likely behind this year's SB401 debacle

We really need to up our game against Everytown.  The only way to make the 2A safe here is literally make it like the “third rail” of Hawaii politics by actively, in a strategic fashion, pushing back against these guys.  It of course takes people power, not just on the defense against the attacks they lob at us in the legislature, but actively lobbying for Hawaii’s 2A rights and against these out-of-state ghouls etc.  Hopefully this is already happening behind the scenes such that a schmuck like me is clueless of it - in which case I’d be stoked to be corrected!

Here is comrade Green’s national PAC, set up while on Hawaii’s dime he was out promoting himself against RFK jr:

https://www.civilbeat.org/2025/05/hawai%ca%bbi-governor-creates-national-pac-to-support-pro-science-candidates/ (https://www.civilbeat.org/2025/05/hawai%ca%bbi-governor-creates-national-pac-to-support-pro-science-candidates/)

“The PAC, which includes a “Donate” link, lists three organizations it describes as partners: 314 Action, Protect Our Care and Everytown for Gun Safety. Protect Our Care is a nonprofit focused on health care, while 314 Action is a nonprofit PAC focused on electing Democrats with a background in science.  A spokesperson for Everytown for Gun Safety declined to comment about Heal America, and a press inquiry to 314 Action got no response.”

It seems reasonable to expect at some point for disarmament of Hawaii to be part of the Governor’s Package at the legislature, just as eliminating the religious exemption for childhood vaccines was this last session.
Title: Re: Green’s national PAC with Everytown
Post by: hvybarrels on May 11, 2025, 08:02:04 PM
He wants to run for president in 2028
Title: Re: Green’s national PAC with Everytown
Post by: ren on May 11, 2025, 10:05:50 PM
We need candidates. Who has the resources and willing to serve?
Title: Re: Green’s national PAC with Everytown
Post by: hvybarrels on May 12, 2025, 01:30:20 AM
I would, but conspiracy theorists don’t tend to poll very well amongst the sheeple.

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Title: Re: Green’s national PAC with Everytown
Post by: QUIETShooter on May 12, 2025, 07:09:10 AM
He wants to run for president in 2028

He's haole.  Yeah.  Get chance.  Plus he is a doctor.  Haole.  Doctor.

The great white dope.  I mean hope for the sheeple of the US. :thumbsup:

Title: Re: Green’s national PAC with Everytown
Post by: Kalihi Uka on May 12, 2025, 09:12:06 AM
He's haole.  Yeah.  Get chance.  Plus he is a doctor.  Haole.  Doctor.

The great white dope.  I mean hope for the sheeple of the US. :thumbsup:

Yeah I guess the national politburo got tired of our local communists - too easygoing - and sent in the real up your ass New Jersey ones to get things moving downward faster.  All the meat puppets who moved here because Berkley was too conservative just eat it up.  I suspect though that if voter participation ever got above 50% here, they might not feel so welcome.  After all, they are the most nasty of all invasive species.
Title: Re: Green’s national PAC with Everytown
Post by: RSN172 on May 12, 2025, 10:26:02 AM
He brags about being the only governor who is a medical doctor and that he is the highest elected official in the country who is a medical doctor.

Being a doctor is a big deal to him.  Granted, it is a great accomplishment, but if I was in an accident I would rather have an experienced army medic

treat me than Mr Immadoctor.
Title: Re: Green’s national PAC with Everytown
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on May 12, 2025, 11:01:26 AM
He brags about being the only governor who is a medical doctor and that he is the highest elected official in the country who is a medical doctor.

Being a doctor is a big deal to him.  Granted, it is a great accomplishment, but if I was in an accident I would rather have an experienced army medic

treat me than Mr Immadoctor.

If being a medical doctor was a major factor in whether or not one can become a high-level elected official, then Dr. Ben Carson would have been elected twice as VP and twice as President.
Title: Re: Green’s national PAC with Everytown
Post by: changemyoil66 on May 12, 2025, 01:23:33 PM
He brags about being the only governor who is a medical doctor and that he is the highest elected official in the country who is a medical doctor.

Being a doctor is a big deal to him.  Granted, it is a great accomplishment, but if I was in an accident I would rather have an experienced army medic

treat me than Mr Immadoctor.

Since he knows how to read and comprehend words, which is required to pass medical school.  Yet he violates the 2A, based on that, I wouldn't trust him working on me.  I'd ask for another doc if I could.  This is beacuse I don't know how good of a real doc he is, but I do know his stance on the 2A and what the 2nd amendment says.
Title: Re: Green’s national PAC with Everytown
Post by: hvybarrels on May 12, 2025, 02:03:09 PM
There is a way to fight back against PACs, and anyone can do it.

https://www.precinctstrategy.com/?trk=public_post-text

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Title: Re: Green’s national PAC with Everytown
Post by: zippz on May 12, 2025, 02:59:45 PM
Green has a decent chance of getting the Democratic Primary.  The other choices are Kamala Harris, AOC, and Gavin Newsom.  Green is the most moderate of the bunch and may appeal to voters who think the others are crazy.

If Trump screws up the economy, then the seat will go to the Democrats
Title: Re: Green’s national PAC with Everytown
Post by: zippz on May 12, 2025, 03:04:54 PM
Since he knows how to read and comprehend words, which is required to pass medical school.  Yet he violates the 2A, based on that, I wouldn't trust him working on me.  I'd ask for another doc if I could.  This is beacuse I don't know how good of a real doc he is, but I do know his stance on the 2A and what the 2nd amendment says.

Doctors are a profession high with Democrat voters, along with teachers, attorneys, government employees, actors...

Not sure what kind of doctor Green is.  There are specialties that are Republican majority like neurosurgeons. 
Title: Re: Green’s national PAC with Everytown
Post by: changemyoil66 on May 12, 2025, 03:14:34 PM
Doctors are a profession high with Democrat voters, along with teachers, attorneys, government employees, actors...

Not sure what kind of doctor Green is.  There are specialties that are Republican majority like neurosurgeons.

He's an ER doctor, so like what you see on TV shows, but much less action.
Title: Re: Green’s national PAC with Everytown
Post by: ren on May 12, 2025, 04:48:30 PM
Nothing to worry about a Democrat President will save the 2a
That's horrible.   One day there will be a democrat president and the Judiciary stopping the executive branch is the only thing stopping losing all 2a rights.

There is a reason there are checks and balances.
Title: Re: Green’s national PAC with Everytown
Post by: hvybarrels on May 12, 2025, 04:56:59 PM
If we successfully kick all the illegals out there will never be a democrat president again
Title: Re: Green’s national PAC with Everytown
Post by: Kalihi Uka on May 12, 2025, 09:45:00 PM
There is a way to fight back against PACs, and anyone can do it.

https://www.precinctstrategy.com/?trk=public_post-text

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Thanks for this - does anyone happen to know if this actually happens here? - For example, AFC type folks, and Hawaii 2A folks, to me, are the same type of folks.  Is there already some degree of dialog and mutual support going on, or are we totally in our silos?  Thanks again for the post!
Title: Re: Green’s national PAC with Everytown
Post by: Westside_Redneck on May 13, 2025, 03:38:07 PM
Yeah I guess the national politburo got tired of our local communists - too easygoing - and sent in the real up your ass New Jersey ones to get things moving downward faster.  All the meat puppets who moved here because Berkley was too conservative just eat it up.  I suspect though that if voter participation ever got above 50% here, they might not feel so welcome.  After all, they are the most nasty of all invasive species.

This I totally agree with this! I always suspected Green of being a plant just like the police chiefs who come in from out of state and assume power, how did that go for Maui again?

Makes you wonder if the DNC itself has a goal to break this place down and make it accessible for the rich mainland armchair commies and "meat puppets" to move in permanently. With a population of homeless immigrants and dirt bags to do their every bidding in exchange for a shack over their head (At least until fully-functional and affordable AI servants become a reality). Basically turn this place into the ultimate "gated community" for the blue mafia of the US.

You are right, they are invasive. Hawaii's silent majority needs to wake TF up and push back before they each receive an eviction notice and get dragged out of their homes by mainland cops for ignoring said notice.
Title: Re: Green’s national PAC with Everytown
Post by: hvybarrels on May 13, 2025, 05:06:53 PM
Thanks for this - does anyone happen to know if this actually happens here? - For example, AFC type folks, and Hawaii 2A folks, to me, are the same type of folks.  Is there already some degree of dialog and mutual support going on, or are we totally in our silos?  Thanks again for the post!

Steve Bannon believes it's the reason we were able to overcome election fraud nationally.
Ralph Cushnie is the head of the resistance here. He would be the right person to ask.
https://www.civilbeat.org/2025/03/tension-turmoil-hawaii-elections-commission/
Title: Re: Green’s national PAC with Everytown
Post by: Kalihi Uka on May 14, 2025, 06:26:42 AM
This I totally agree with this! I always suspected Green of being a plant just like the police chiefs who come in from out of state and assume power, how did that go for Maui again?

Makes you wonder if the DNC itself has a goal to break this place down and make it accessible for the rich mainland armchair commies and "meat puppets" to move in permanently. With a population of homeless immigrants and dirt bags to do their every bidding in exchange for a shack over their head (At least until fully-functional and affordable AI servants become a reality). Basically turn this place into the ultimate "gated community" for the blue mafia of the US.

You are right, they are invasive. Hawaii's silent majority needs to wake TF up and push back before they each receive an eviction notice and get dragged out of their homes by mainland cops for ignoring said notice.

It is an ugly, ugly reality here.

One example I’m personally familiar with is the Evan Dobelle catastrophe at UH in the early 2000’s.  I was a point person with respect to the management of funds for the UH endowment at a major bank here.  One of our senior execs sat on the board of regents (chair I believe), and it was their assigned task to get Dobelle installed as new president.  It was at the direction of the CEO of the bank, who in turn got that order from Dan Inouye’s office, which in turn got it from the party central committee - or whatever the hive uses to issue commands.

The word inside the bank was that, as a party operative, he was a total fuck up, and that they wanted to get him out of the east coast - put him on ice out here with a cushy salary - let him fuck up somewhere else where it doesn’t matter to them.  He was an amazingly disgusting individual.

And so with insect-like obedience and perfect amorality with respect to our community, they made it so, to the very great damage of UH.

He of course got puked out of here, only to repeat his performance at the next locale.

The Party runs Hawaii this way, and the local apparatchiks obey.

Not possible to hate them enough.
Title: Re: Green’s national PAC with Everytown
Post by: hvybarrels on May 14, 2025, 05:56:31 PM
The left loves to reward incompetence and it shows.

On the other hand this is also their greatest weakness.  :shaka: