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General Topics => Legal and Activism => Topic started by: MauiAxis on May 28, 2025, 08:26:04 AM
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If I have a long gun Permit to Acquire issued in Maui, is this valid on other islands in the state of Hawaii?
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If I have a long gun Permit to Acquire issued in Maui, is this valid on other islands in the state of Hawaii?
Good question. I can't find anything in the permit section however I don't have a permit in front of me right now so I don't know if the permit itself has any stipulations. Permits fall under the same requirements in each county so there isn't a good reason to only allow ones in your own county.
https://law.justia.com/codes/hawaii/title-10/chapter-134/section-134-2/
However this sections says
(b) No person shall possess any firearm that is owned by another, regardless of whether the owner has consented to possession of the firearm, without a permit from the chief of police of the appropriate county, except as provided in subsection (c) and section 134-5.
https://law.justia.com/codes/hawaii/title-10/chapter-134/section-134-4/
I would think the permit issued by the appropriate county would mean where you live any apply for permits but I could imagine someone interpreting it to mean the place of purchase.
Maybe try calling a gun shop on another island and ask if they will take a Maui County permit to purchase. Let us know what they say.
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Good question. I can't find anything in the permit section however I don't have a permit in front of me right now so I don't know if the permit itself has any stipulations. Permits fall under the same requirements in each county so there isn't a good reason to only allow ones in your own county.
https://law.justia.com/codes/hawaii/title-10/chapter-134/section-134-2/
However this sections says
(b) No person shall possess any firearm that is owned by another, regardless of whether the owner has consented to possession of the firearm, without a permit from the chief of police of the appropriate county, except as provided in subsection (c) and section 134-5.
https://law.justia.com/codes/hawaii/title-10/chapter-134/section-134-4/
I would think the permit issued by the appropriate county would mean where you live any apply for permits but I could imagine someone interpreting it to mean the place of purchase.
Maybe try calling a gun shop on another island and ask if they will take a Maui County permit to purchase. Let us know what they say.
A simple "I have no idea" would have saved you lots of typing.
Then again, a non-reply would have saved 100%.
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A simple "I have no idea" would have saved you lots of typing.
Then again, a non-reply would have saved 100%.
Wrong.
I gave him two sections to reference as well as two suggestions to help him find a resolution.
The only post here offering nothing of value is yours. Don't derail another thread.
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Wrong.
I gave him two sections to reference as well as two suggestions to help him find a resolution.
The only post here offering nothing of value is yours. Don't derail another thread.
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Wrong.
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Wrong.
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You are entitled to your opinion
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Wow, I've certainly considered buying guns in a different county before, and I never considered it may not be legal to do so. Surely some FFL's must know the answer to this.
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You are entitled to your opinion
Funny how you spend so much time arguing against my opinions.
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Funny how you spend so much time arguing against my opinions.
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:wtf: :stopjack:
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Answer was easy to lookup
HRS 134-2 (a) No person shall acquire the ownership of a firearm, whether usable or unusable, serviceable or unserviceable, modern or antique, registered under prior law or by a prior owner or unregistered, either by purchase, gift, inheritance, bequest, or in any other manner, whether procured in the State or imported by mail, express, freight, or otherwise, until the person has first procured from the chief of police of the county of the person's place of business or, if there is no place of business, the person's residence or, if there is neither place of business nor residence, the person's place of sojourn, a permit to acquire the ownership of a firearm as prescribed in this section
It would be interesting if not for this, if the person buying a gun was in Oahu, seller was on Kauai, they wanted to meet up in Maui, but applied for a permit on Big Island.
For CCW it has the same associated chief of police language, but doesn't say place of business or residence. So I guess you can still get it wherever.
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Wrong.
I gave him two sections to reference as well as two suggestions to help him find a resolution.
The only post here offering nothing of value is yours. Don't derail another thread.
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Did u offer a good answer? No, so flapps reply is a good one.
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Hawaii with its county specific gun laws are stupid. It is like you lose your gun rights because you fly to another island, despite being a Hawaii citizen.
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Answer was easy to lookup
HRS 134-2 (a) No person shall acquire the ownership of a firearm, whether usable or unusable, serviceable or unserviceable, modern or antique, registered under prior law or by a prior owner or unregistered, either by purchase, gift, inheritance, bequest, or in any other manner, whether procured in the State or imported by mail, express, freight, or otherwise, until the person has first procured from the chief of police of the county of the person's place of business or, if there is no place of business, the person's residence or, if there is neither place of business nor residence, the person's place of sojourn, a permit to acquire the ownership of a firearm as prescribed in this section
It would be interesting if not for this, if the person buying a gun was in Oahu, seller was on Kauai, they wanted to meet up in Maui, but applied for a permit on Big Island.
For CCW it has the same associated chief of police language, but doesn't say place of business or residence. So I guess you can still get it wherever.
Thank you Zipps. So if I am reading this correctly, the part in red, I can buy firearms on Oahu since I have a PTA from where I live (Maui).
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You should be able to. I have a long gun permit issued on Oahu and bought a rifle on the Big Island no problems. I didn't even think if it was possible or not just went to a shop there and purchased a rifle and brought it back.
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Did u offer a good answer? No, so flapps reply is a good one.
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You are entitled to your opinion regardless of its lack of merit. :thumbsup:
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You are entitled to your opinion regardless of its lack of merit. :thumbsup:
Keep thinking that.
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Keep thinking that.
I will, thanks
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I will, thanks
And that's why the cycle continues.
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And that's why the cycle continues.
Because you can't restrain yourself from responding?
I said thanks, signaling the end of the exchange but you have to keep it going huh?
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Because you can't restrain yourself from responding?
I said thanks, signaling the end of the exchange but you have to keep it going huh?
And here it is. Lets keep this thread going needlessly long.
You could simply not reply, but instead you chose to use "thanks".
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Because you can't restrain yourself from responding?
I said thanks, signaling the end of the exchange but you have to keep it going huh?
WRONG!!
When someone says, "Thanks," a reply of "you're welcome" is traditionally expected.
Stop making up the rules to suit your own bad behavior.
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WRONG!!
When someone says, "Thanks," a reply of "you're welcome" is traditionally expected.
Stop making up the rules to suit your own bad behavior.
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My bad behavior? Look in the mirror bro
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And here it is. Lets keep this thread going needlessly long.
You could simply not reply, but instead you chose to use "thanks".
I am not allowed to even thank you for something without being accused of keeping a thread going?
You are free to stop responding....
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I am not allowed to even thank you for something without being accused of keeping a thread going?
You are free to stop responding....
Wow, now you're trying to play victim. Here's another tactic you use.
See how many more pages this thread need not be. You are free to agree by not responding.
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Wow, now you're trying to play victim. Here's another tactic you use.
See how many more pages this thread need not be. You are free to agree by not responding.
You are the one complaining about thread length so why not do something about it and stop responding? The problem is of your own making. You don't see me whining about thread length.
You and Flapp should apologize to Maui for derailing his thread.
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You are the one complaining about thread length so why not do something about it and stop responding? The problem is of your own making. You don't see me whining about thread length.
You and Flapp should apologize to Maui for derailing his thread.
U think I'm whining? More proof of your imagination to things that don't exist.
And here you are adding extra threads when called out and have no good reply. This thread could have not been so long if you just didn't post since you didn't provide an answer.
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You two are like best friends forever when you're together in person, right?
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U think I'm whining? More proof of your imagination to things that don't exist.
And here you are adding extra threads when called out and have no good reply. This thread could have not been so long if you just didn't post since you didn't provide an answer.
Let see how many lies you can fit into one post. I count 3.
Why don't you lead by example and stop responding. I will follow your lead :thumbsup:
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Let see how many lies you can fit into one post. I count 3.
Why don't you lead by example and stop responding. I will follow your lead :thumbsup:
Wow so many tactics used in this thread by yourself that further show you're wrong. Keep it up so all can see. You can stop responding as you aren't adding anything but imaginary things. I on the other hand are calling your imagination that's wrong out. That's why you don't want me to respond.
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Wow so many tactics used in this thread by yourself that further show you're wrong. Keep it up so all can see. You can stop responding as you aren't adding anything but imaginary things. I on the other hand are calling your imagination that's wrong out. That's why you don't want me to respond.
You failed the leadership by example test....
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You failed the leadership by example test....
Thank you for admitting that you think of me as a leader. But I decline to be your leader as we are not in any type of interactions that warrant me to have authority over you. I point out your flaws and wait for you to reply with more flaws.
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Thank you for admitting that you think of me as a leader. But I decline to be your leader as we are not in any type of interactions that warrant me to have authority over you. I point out your flaws and wait for you to reply with more flaws.
You wish :rofl:
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You wish :rofl:
Then why would you type that? Are you once again to refusing to admit you were wrong?
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Then why would you type that? Are you once again to refusing to admit you were wrong?
I can't admit to something that isn't real. Go troll some other thread and leave this one to answering Maui's question. :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:
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I can't admit to something that isn't real. Go troll some other thread and leave this one to answering Maui's question. :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:
And enter the tactics now because you're once again wrong. And keeping threads alive just because you don't want to admit it too.
I don't think you know what "troll" means.
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This is like when two email autoresponders get stuck in a loop where they keep telling each other they're on vacation.
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This is like when two email autoresponders get stuck in a loop where they keep telling each other they're on vacation.
We live in a society where people will just ignore when someone is doing something wrong or incorrect about something. Due to this, the person who's often wrong doesn't change their behavior and thinks they're often right cause no one steps up to call them out. Then sometimes on top of this, they work in an industry where they get to tell people what to do. More accurately, they first ask them to do something. Then when that doesn't happen, they tell them to do something. Then if they still aren't listening to them, they then make them do something. So in the end, that individual once again gets the feeling of being right often.
This is one place that this doesn't happen. If someone is wrong about something, then info will be presented as to the why. Then after that's ignored, then comes what you see. Further down the line, credibility is lost and even more vague replies are entered as to why the person is wrong.
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This is like when two email autoresponders get stuck in a loop where they keep telling each other they're on vacation.
Touche!
The funny part is now he is responding to you to justify his own actions.
If someone attacks my honesty I will die on that hill which is why I keep responding to his garbage posts. The irony is that he blames me for keeping the threads going on and on when he could choose not to respond. If he called me ugly or fat or something like that I let it go and he can have the last word but not when he calls me a liar. I hope that adds some context to how you view this, even if it means nothing to you.
Aloha
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Touche!
The funny part is now he is responding to you to justify his own actions.
If someone attacks my honesty I will die on that hill which is why I keep responding to his garbage posts. The irony is that he blames me for keeping the threads going on and on when he could choose not to respond. If he called me ugly or fat or something like that I let it go and he can have the last word but not when he calls me a liar. I hope that adds some context to how you view this, even if it means nothing to you.
Aloha
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And here you are, responding to justify your own actions.
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Hypocrisy to the extreme.
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Touche!
The funny part is now he is responding to you to justify his own actions.
If someone attacks my honesty I will die on that hill which is why I keep responding to his garbage posts. The irony is that he blames me for keeping the threads going on and on when he could choose not to respond. If he called me ugly or fat or something like that I let it go and he can have the last word but not when he calls me a liar. I hope that adds some context to how you view this, even if it means nothing to you.
Aloha
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Why would I call you ugly or fat? That has nothing to do with the convo we've had all these years. See again, you are imagining outcomes that have nothing to do with the topic at hand. ANd yes, I will continue to call you a liar if you continue to lie. Hasn't that been obvious by now. Well to everyone but you I guess. Thanks for once again showing everyone I'm correct.
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And here you are, responding to justify your own actions.
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Hypocrisy to the extreme.
I responded to defend the attack on my honesty. Do you have a problem with that? You didn't have a problem derailing this thread.
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I do sometimes but I should more. My stubbornness in calling out trolls usually wins that battle though.
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I do sometimes but I should more. My stubbornness in calling out trolls usually wins that battle though.
Hahahahha."In my mind", my stubborness is calling out trolls usually wins that battle though. FIFY
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It’s so sad that the moderators here do not enforce civility. Remember, the Anti 2A people are on this website too and are watching us bicker amongst ourselves. It’s no wonder why they think they have the upper hand in enacting new anti 2A legislation. If we can’t become a cohesive and strong group (like Mom’s Demand Action) then there’s no chance to influence the outcome of the draconian laws that keep being proposed. Stop demonstrating your childish behavior towards one another or take it elsewhere.
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It’s so sad that the moderators here do not enforce civility. Remember, the Anti 2A people are on this website too and are watching us bicker amongst ourselves. It’s no wonder why they think they have the upper hand in enacting new anti 2A legislation. If we can’t become a cohesive and strong group (like Mom’s Demand Action) then there’s no chance to influence the outcome of the draconian laws that keep being proposed. Stop demonstrating your childish behavior towards one another or take it elsewhere.
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I agree. Can't be effective with all the squabbling going on and it discourages new people from joining and participating.
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It’s so sad that the moderators here do not enforce civility. Remember, the Anti 2A people are on this website too and are watching us bicker amongst ourselves. It’s no wonder why they think they have the upper hand in enacting new anti 2A legislation. If we can’t become a cohesive and strong group (like Mom’s Demand Action) then there’s no chance to influence the outcome of the draconian laws that keep being proposed. Stop demonstrating your childish behavior towards one another or take it elsewhere.
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You are correct. But I look at it this way as well.
When the anti gun testify to support anti 2a bills, I've seen them lie and use half truths and feelings. This ranges from the head of the org, individuals, and even the politicians. During the hearings, we try to correct their false info or to clarify the context. Sometimes we can do this and sometimes not as the hearings you don't get a turn to speak again and if you go before the anti 2a, you rarely have a chance to counter the discussion. Plus the hearings aren't designed to be a "debate".
Now if we let the anti 2a get away with this, then they have more "ammo" to get anti 2a laws passed as no one is questioning them.
Now relate that to here. If someone (EEF) presents false info, he is corrected. Then when he tries to wiggle out of being wrong, he then resorts to other tactics that is obvious. There is only so much facts that can be presented. Like talking to an anti 2a person. Flapp has the ability to post very detailed info to counter any lies/bad info by EEF. I used to do this, but it's like talking to an anti 2a, it's a waste of my time to go into great detail as his mind won't be changed. So I instead speak in general terms and easy things for most of the time now since he has shown the inability to use logic and admit when wrong. For others, I will present more data if they're wrong. I myself have been wrong on things and when presented with the facts, I admitted it and the discussion ended. Often it comes with a "focus" word used to show I was wrong as i had "no focus".
We had this issue with another member some years ago and he is now gone.
So the point of the above is to show another side of why things get replied to the way that they do. I have noticed that pro 2a people are more fact based.
Then add in that this is a local forum and HI is very small where everyone knows everyone. So some use more restraint when having a discussion as odds are you may run into the person at some point.
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He is not a nice person.
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Hey Flapp and Oilchange, can you find a new hobby that does not involve bullying?
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Hey Flapp and Oilchange, can you find a new hobby that does not involve bullying?
If you mean correcting when someone post inaccurate info, then no.
bul·ly1
/ˈbo͝olē/
verb
gerund or present participle: bullying
seek to harm, intimidate, or coerce (someone perceived as vulnerable).
Are stating that EEF is perceived as vulnerable in your eyes? I sure don't think of him that way. Nor do I seek to harm, intimidate, or coerce him.
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Hey Flapp and Oilchange, can you find a new hobby that does not involve bullying?
Two points:
1. EEF doesn't seem to mind, or else he'd stop engaging us. I can't read his mind, but that would seem to track with his behavior.
2. I consider this more of a public service than a hobby.
I believe if you let someone with an opinion on everything go on and on unchecked, others will take for granted that they must know what they are talking about. It's our duty (yours too) to call our misinformation, made up "facts" and opinions based solely on Google search results when we catch them. If nothing else, challenge the person to provide the supporting information upon which they formed their opinions.
I prefer forum members police fake news rather than the government, social media platforms or so-called fact checkers. The fact that EEF drags every opinion into a mud wrestling match isn't our fault.
I get why you'll calling us out as bullies and not ragging on EEF. Parents will almost always appeal to the older, more mature children to let the baby have its way because they know appealing to the baby will have no effect.