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General Topics => Legal and Activism => Topic started by: zippz on June 11, 2025, 08:36:26 PM

Title: Gun deaths vs Overdose deaths
Post by: zippz on June 11, 2025, 08:36:26 PM
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Hawaii had 244 overdose deaths last year.  Compare this to Hawaii's average gun victim deaths of 15 per year, and gun suicides of 45 per year.  15 gun victim deaths compared to 244 overdose deaths is a drop in the bucket.  A better comparison is the 45 suicides to 244 overdoses since they're self-induced.  Overdoses are over 5x greater.

Yet the focus is always on guns (not criminals either) where 50 anti gun bills are introduced in a year and politicians talk big about banning guns and saving lives.  You rarely see tougher drug crime bills introduced.  In fact, you usually see a push for decriminalization instead.  Politicians rarely denounce the use of drugs or talk about the overdose deaths.

Bring that up in your conversations.

Fentanyl overdose deaths drop in Hawaii as meth-related fatalities spike
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2025/06/12/fentanyl-overdose-deaths-drop-hawaii-meth-related-fatalities-spike
Title: Re: Gun deaths vs Overdose deaths
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on June 11, 2025, 08:53:02 PM
Info for your future testimony or talking to people.

Hawaii had 244 overdose deaths last year.  Compare this to Hawaii's average gun victim deaths of 15 per year, and gun suicides of 45 per year.  15 gun victim deaths compared to 244 overdose deaths is a drop in the bucket.  A better comparison is the 45 suicides to 244 overdoses since they're self-induced.  Overdoses are over 5x greater.

Yet the focus is always on guns (not criminals either) where 50 anti gun bills are introduced in a year and politicians talk big about banning guns and saving lives.  You rarely see tougher drug crime bills introduced.  In fact, you usually see a push for decriminalization instead.  Politicians rarely denounce the use of drugs or talk about the overdose deaths.

Bring that up in your conversations.

Fentanyl overdose deaths drop in Hawaii as meth-related fatalities spike
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2025/06/12/fentanyl-overdose-deaths-drop-hawaii-meth-related-fatalities-spike

I think the logical argument is the average anti-gun advocate isn't worried about the drug addict killing them with their OD.

But they never seem to grasp the logic that bans don't work.  The drugs in the report are already illegal to buy and use, yet gun bans are being pushed as hard as ever.