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General Topics => Political Discussion => Topic started by: zippz on June 13, 2025, 08:11:48 AM
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I see a lot of stupidity in people protesting the military parade in Washington DC on June 14th and not knowing it's the US Army's 250th birthday (Est June 14 1775). Spits in the face of all the triumps of the Army allowing for the founding of America, freedom and peace in the world, and sacrifices for all those that have served. Most of the veteran's participating in the No King's protest probably don't know whats going on.
THE FOUNDING
Since its official establishment, June 14, 1775 — more than a year before the Declaration of Independence — the U.S. Army has played a vital role in the growth and development of the American nation. Drawing on both long-standing militia traditions and recently introduced professional standards, it won the new republic's independence in an arduous eight-year struggle against Great Britain. At times, the Army provided the lone symbol of nationhood around which patriots rallied.
https://www.army.mil/1775/
https://www.nokings.org/
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Also see the irony that we just celebrated King Kamehameha day this week, and celebration events are happening at the same time as the No King's protest.
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Yeah - No Kings Day of Defiance!
Brought to you by the disciples of KARL MARX
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Stupid is what stupid does.
C'mon. Just be honest you protesters. It's not "No Kings Day". It's Hate Trump Day.
I know all of you protesters don't have any but geesh, at least pretend to show some balls.
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This shows how dumb the left is if they think Trump is a "king".
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These protest organizers have no class and no respect for the military that fought and died for the country that they live in.
To quote Brainless Shatz:
“Being disrespectful is legal. Being disrespectful is American, Being disruptive is okay if it’s just using your words and not your body."
No it's NOT ok to be disruptive. That's why meetings use Roberts rules of order.
With senators like Schitz as a role model, is it any wonder why you have kids kicking on doors at 2am?
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It's more like No Laws day
Anyone trying to restore order will be labeled a tyrant by compliant media.
I really hope RFK bans pharma advertising soon. Their audience is already gone, and without money laundering fake news is cooked.
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These protest organizers have no class and no respect for the military that fought and died for the country that they live in.
To quote Brainless Shatz:
“Being disrespectful is legal. Being disrespectful is American, Being disruptive is okay if it’s just using your words and not your body."
No it's NOT ok to be disruptive. That's why meetings use Roberts rules of order.
With senators like Schitz as a role model, is it any wonder why you have kids kicking on doors at 2am?
Shatz sharing his sad perspective on disruptive behavior and disrespect as being American just shows the true character and the kind of rubbish hawaii has sent to the nation's capitol.
The fact that this puke was initially appointed and then the masses brainwashed to keep him in office showcases how the demorat party's credibility has never been held in high regard by those who truly believe this country is spiraling out of control.
Shatz's speeches never ceases to give me the Shitz.
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The No Kings announcement showing Trump with X's over his eyes also needs to be called out. That is the universal image for someone who's deceased.
Look at all the cartoons and comics that have characters who are killed or died.
While additional symbols can signal he's drunk, knocked out or sleeping, the X's alone are normally used for death.
i'm sure this is just as innocent as Comey's 8647 post.
https://youtu.be/-LgEvQuyDxE?t=110
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Shatz sharing his sad perspective on disruptive behavior and disrespect as being American just shows the true character and the kind of rubbish hawaii has sent to the nation's capitol.
The fact that this puke was initially appointed and then the masses brainwashed to keep him in office showcases how the demorat party's credibility has never been held in high regard by those who truly believe this country is spiraling out of control.
Shatz's speeches never ceases to give me the Shitz.
Snots is just the most recent in a conga line of generations of stone-age communist inbreeding here, as is Crazy Hirono.
You got a lot of Frank Marshall Davis poison in that there woodpile.
One day, the people will not have to suffer the humiliation on the national stage of these things in Washington, using the name of our state.
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Today we celebrate KING Kamehameha. Tomorrow we protest no KINGs!
We live in a State of confusion.
Just like Keep the Country COUNTREH! people but lets keep modern hospitals, Walmarts, Longs, internet access, cellular phone towers, roads to drive Leefted brand new 2000 Silverados....
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NO KINGS (unless it's theirs.........)
The epitome of 2-faced demorats.
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What if ONE stupid protestor shows up at the King Kamehameha statue? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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What if ONE stupid protestor shows up at the King Kamehameha statue? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
The Left normalized defacing and destroying any and all monuments dedicated to the Confederacy and/or the US Civil War in general.
Maybe the same behavior would be acceptable for monuments honoring kings?
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These protest organizers have no class and no respect for the military that fought and died for the country that they live in.
To quote Brainless Shatz:
“Being disrespectful is legal. Being disrespectful is American, Being disruptive is okay if it’s just using your words and not your body."
No it's NOT ok to be disruptive. That's why meetings use Roberts rules of order.
With senators like Schitz as a role model, is it any wonder why you have kids kicking on doors at 2am?
Schitz should've corrected Obama
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I think the one in Hilo was a bust. I know several people who was watching a Little League baseball game near there and none of them noticed anything out of the ordinary. I also saw 5 pictures of the Hilo rally posted on the internet and no big crowds. Just a bunch of white people standing or sitting and holding signs. Not being racist but I did not see any Asians or locals in the pictures posted
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I think the one in Hilo was a bust. I know several people who was watching a Little League baseball game near there and none of them noticed anything out of the ordinary. I also saw 5 pictures of the Hilo rally posted on the internet and no big crowds. Just a bunch of white people standing or sitting and holding signs. Not being racist but I did not see any Asians or locals in the pictures posted
We all know who mostly fuels these protests. No, not racist. Just happens to be what is.
Of course that asshat Clinton would beg to differ.
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No surprise No Kings is supported by another incarnation of Act Blue
https://indivisible.org/campaign/distributed-fundraising-program
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2025/06/14/no-kings-protests-take-place-nationwide-across-hawaii/
Organizers from Indivisible Hawaii said the protests are open to anyone and urged those attending to bring signs, musical instruments, drinking water, and review the organization’s peaceful protest protocols.
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crowd in maui was sparse
state capital looked about the same crowd or slightly less than the musk one that they had previously...
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They basically just outed themselves as a tiny noisy minority.
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Our elected Jill Tokuda was there protesting our elected President
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2025/06/15/hawaii-lawmakers-condemn-unspeakable-shootings-minnesota-lawmakers/
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Our elected Jill Tokuda was there protesting our elected President
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2025/06/15/hawaii-lawmakers-condemn-unspeakable-shootings-minnesota-lawmakers/
7K-10K attendees ? :rofl:
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Damn - I wish I was this eloquent!
Here's something to lift your spirits about the great people - who are what makes our country great.
https://x.com/NowPammsy/status/1933918433894191355
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This happened at a Salt Lake City, Utah, No Kings protest.
Man arrested for death of bystander killed when armed men tried to shoot another armed man who fled.
The man arrested was not even the one who pulled the trigger. The deceased was a Samoan-American.
A man who was believed to be part of a peacekeeping team for the
“No Kings” protest in Salt Lake City shot at a person who was brandishing
a rifle at demonstrators, striking both the rifleman and a bystander who
later died at the hospital, authorities said Sunday.
Police took the alleged rifleman, Arturo Gamboa, 24, into custody Saturday
evening on a murder charge, Salt Lake City Police Chief Brian Redd said
at a Sunday news conference. The bystander was Arthur Folasa Ah Loo,
39, a fashion designer from Samoa.
Detectives don’t yet know why Gamboa pulled out a rifle or ran from the
peacekeepers, but they accused him of creating the dangerous situation
that led to Ah Loo’s death. The Associated Press did not immediately find
an attorney listed for Gamboa or contact information for his family in public
records.
https://apnews.com/article/utah-no-kings-protest-shot-killed-75c777eeedd59c80c85695c45385c507
https://youtu.be/fbEExrJsVZs
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This happened at a Salt Lake City, Utah, No Kings protest.
Man arrested for death of bystander killed when armed men tried to shoot another armed man who fled.
The man arrested was not even the one who pulled the trigger. The deceased was a Samoan-American.
https://apnews.com/article/utah-no-kings-protest-shot-killed-75c777eeedd59c80c85695c45385c507
https://youtu.be/fbEExrJsVZs
Recap if you cannot watch the vid:
Utah allows open carry.
The rifle holder wasn't slung, but was walking with his rifle at the low ready.
The "peacekeepers" are not law enforcement, so you do not have to obey any commands like if a cop gave you commands.
I saw the vid. I think the peacekeeper should be charged and "jumped the gun".
A lesson learned, "you're responsible for every bullet that leaves your barrel".
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Recap if you cannot watch the vid:
Utah allows open carry.
The rifle holder wasn't slung, but was walking with his rifle at the low ready.
The "peacekeepers" are not law enforcement, so you do not have to obey any commands like if a cop gave you commands.
I saw the vid. I think the peacekeeper should be charged and "jumped the gun".
A lesson learned, "you're responsible for every bullet that leaves your barrel".
From what I read and saw, a single "peacekeeper" fired 3 shots trying to stop the target as he ran into the crowd. The target was also hit with one round and was arrested for murder.
The story being shared is the man in the crowd was carrying the rifle in his hand -- not using a sling. He was said to have tried "manipulating" the rifle and holding it at the low ready when the peacekeepers yelled for him to drop the rifle. That's when the target began running away.
The target has been charged with murder, but the man who fired has not been charged.
The target had handbills/signs on him with only the words "No Kings" in hand printing.
The police say the man's manifesto has been found, but it's not been released. Releasing it might answer many questions as to his motives/political beliefs.
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From what we see over the last few days, and listening to the phycho-babble coming out of their pie holes, it looks like mass formation psychosis, or just simply mass psychosis - never dissipated from the whack-job left in this country:
"Mass psychosis, often referred to as mass hysteria or mass psychogenic illness, is a phenomenon where a group of people experiences similar symptoms or behaviors without an identifiable physical cause, typically stemming from psychological factors. This can occur in response to shared stress or anxiety, leading individuals to believe they are affected by a common threat."
ICE deporting criminal illegal aliens under preexisting laws = Dictatorship!
Biden directing OSHA to enforce vaccine mandates on all businesses with more than 100 employees = Democracy! (Communism)
Trump directing that politicians be subject to the same laws as the rest of us = Dictatorship!
The White House & media hiding the fact that the sitting president is mentally incompetent = Democracy! (Communism)
Trump Administration cutting tax-payer $'s illegally directed to Dem NGO's for the purpose of undermining national security = Dictatorship!
The Office of the President being run by a nameless faceless cabal of autopen users = Democracy! (Communism),
etc., etc., ... ad nauseam
This vicious mind virus needs to be incinerated wherever it raises it hideous head.
They are criminally insane.
Sorry for posting the obvious, but sometimes their evil just torques me to the limit.
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Appears to have been a safe event. My coworker did security at the Hawaii state capitol and said 3 no kings people went across the street to cause trouble with the counter protestors. Other no kings people stopped them and dragged them back.
Good to see that kind of stuff in Hawaii.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEXcvUWHJao
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A country with a king would not allow you to protest against the crown.
Kind of like how one side wouldn't let you pick your Presidential nominee.
Because nothing says "Democracy" like not letting anyone else run for the party nomination.
But Hawaii isn't ready for that conversation.
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This shows how dumb the left is if they think Trump is a "king".
I don't think they believe Trump is a king, they fear Trump will try to become a king.
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I don't think they believe Trump is a king, they fear Trump will try to become a king.
That too is dumb if they think this.
I saw a meme of Trump on the phone with Putin:
Trump: Hey Vlad, I bet I can get people who hate me to call me a king.
Putin: Bet
Trump: LMFAO, I win!
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I don't think they believe Trump is a king, they fear Trump will try to become a king.
I think their fear is something else. Trump will destroy everything they have accumulated up to this point.
That is their fear and is what the voters voted for. Their fear is the country has turned 180 degrees into the "right" direction, no longer the "left" direction....... ;D
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I don't think they believe Trump is a king, they fear Trump will try to become a king.
Your thinking is not based on reality.
3 ways Trump is acting like a king and
bypassing the Constitution’s checks and
balances on presidential authority
https://theconversation.com/3-ways-trump-is-acting-like-a-king-and-bypassing-the-constitutions-checks-and-balances-on-presidential-authority-249347
If they believe he's acting as a king, it's the same as saying they believe he is a king and acting with the same authority as one.
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I don't think they believe Trump is a king, they fear Trump will try to become a king.
Trump’s attempts at dismantling their subversion of lawful institutions / processes, which they did with the intention of laundering their vicious tyranny through them in order to produce the exact opposite of the intent of the founders of this country,
is what they call “acting like a King”
… just like when we say “he’s a transvestite,” they say “No you far-right hater / bigot, she’s a WOMAN. Stop this violence against LBG&*@‘ouhgftcxs legion spirits ¥£€[]\}]^65<…5[[^, and furries!”
As obnoxious as Nazi’s 1.0 were, at least they had the decency to not claim that their invasion of Poland was to bring Democracy to the Polish people, etc., but not so these Nazi’s 2.0 - it’s hard to be more vile, but in this regard they are off the charts.
They are the perfect inversion of humanity and the progress of civilization. I.e. you can have neither with them in it.
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Trump’s attempts at dismantling their subversion of lawful institutions / processes, which they did with the intention of laundering their vicious tyranny through them in order to produce the exact opposite of the intent of the founders of this country,
is what they call “acting like a King”
… just like when we say “he’s a transvestite,” they say “No you far-right hater / bigot, she’s a WOMAN. Stop this violence against LBG&*@‘ouhgftcxs legion spirits ¥£€[]\}]^65<…5[[^, and furries!”
As obnoxious as Nazi’s 1.0 were, at least they had the decency to not claim that their invasion of Poland was to bring Democracy to the Polish people, etc., but not so these Nazi’s 2.0 - it’s hard to be more vile, but in this regard they are off the charts.
They are the perfect inversion of humanity and the progress of civilization. I.e. you can have neither with them in it.
I don't agree with your premise so I can't agree with what follows.
I think this is another example of failing to understand each other. Summarize the opponent's position in the least charitable way possible and claim they are trying to destroy America. Democrats do it to republicans and republicans do it to democrats.
They aren't protesting Trump here simply because they lost the election and aren't getting their way. They are protesting because Trump is acting like he is a king. Even if you like his policies and nearly everything he has done so far it is undeniable that he has tried to balloon the authority of the president with more executive orders that have reached farther than ever before.
Anti-Trump bias makes it seem worse than it really is but in the same way pro-Trump bias makes it seem less worse than it really is. The thing that surprises me most is how readily conservatives and republicans, the people who have been historically most concerned about the ever growing power of government are turning a blind eye to Trump's behavior. I don't know why these supposed values get tossed out the window just because it is Trump.
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Your thinking is not based on reality.
3 ways Trump is acting like a king and
bypassing the Constitution’s checks and
balances on presidential authority
https://theconversation.com/3-ways-trump-is-acting-like-a-king-and-bypassing-the-constitutions-checks-and-balances-on-presidential-authority-249347
If they believe he's acting as a king, it's the same as saying they believe he is a king and acting with the same authority as one.
Acting like a king =/= a king
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Acting like a king =/= a king
I knew you'd say that, just to argue, which is why I added:
If they believe he's acting as a king, it's the same as saying they believe he is a king and acting with the same authority as one.
We don't have an actual monarchy here, nor is there likely to be one in our lifetimes -- at least not during Trump's lifetime.
So, the best he can do is ACT like a king if he intended to reign like one.
Way to nit pick.
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I don't agree with your premise so I can't agree with what follows.
I think this is another example of failing to understand each other. Summarize the opponent's position in the least charitable way possible and claim they are trying to destroy America. Democrats do it to republicans and republicans do it to democrats.
They aren't protesting Trump here simply because they lost the election and aren't getting their way. They are protesting because Trump is acting like he is a king. Even if you like his policies and nearly everything he has done so far it is undeniable that he has tried to balloon the authority of the president with more executive orders that have reached farther than ever before.
Anti-Trump bias makes it seem worse than it really is but in the same way pro-Trump bias makes it seem less worse than it really is. The thing that surprises me most is how readily conservatives and republicans, the people who have been historically most concerned about the ever growing power of government are turning a blind eye to Trump's behavior. I don't know why these supposed values get tossed out the window just because it is Trump.
Holy crap man!
“he has tried to balloon the authority of the president with more executive orders that have reached farther than ever before.”
Joe Biden’s fucking auto pen ruled this country with unquestioned authority, and the meat puppets screaming “King!” sat contentedly on the floor licking their balls. It conducted a full scale treasonous invasion of this country, and the meat puppets ordered Mexican takeout while trying on their new dresses, girls did too.
…. and for months we have seen that what some anonymous staffer could do with Joe Biden’s auto pen, the elected President of the United States, according to you and all the rest, DOES NOT HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO UNDO.
Trumps response to this judicial tyranny? He waits for the fucking Supreme Court to get around to restoring the separation of powers.
Acting like a King??????
Look, you guys are playing with real fire here. When you so fucking in-your-face push for the extinction of the rule of law in this country, you are hastening the day when decent men will have no choice left to them to restore it, other than by force.
You folks seem to think this is some political game, like you can propagandize, subvert institutions, and then slip the noose of tyranny over the people’s heads when they aren’t looking, and clap your hands and say “We win the game - you must submit to the government we just stole!”
Read your history - it’s not a game. You folks always end up somewhere out in the country with dirt shoveled on your faces.
Politically of course.
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Trump is acting like a King.
He has to. He's trying to fix the country after 4 years of the autopen.
Drastic times require Drastic Measures.
The communist/socialist hordes are scared shitless.
And therefore, talking shit.
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I knew you'd say that, just to argue, which is why I added:
If they believe he's acting as a king, it's the same as saying they believe he is a king and acting with the same authority as one.
Which is why I said "Acting like a king =/= a king". I am saying your statement is false, it is a non-sequitur.
We don't have an actual monarchy here, nor is there likely to be one in our lifetimes -- at least not during Trump's lifetime.
So, the best he can do is ACT like a king if he intended to reign like one.
Way to nit pick.
Way to defend Trump's autocratic tendencies. Someone forgot what America fought the war of independence over, guess the Trump cult is more important to you than the conservative values of this nation.
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Trump is acting like a King.
He has to. He's trying to fix the country after 4 years of the autopen.
Drastic times require Drastic Measures.
The communist/socialist hordes are scared shitless.
And therefore, talking shit.
That logic justifies any person in power to abuse their power.
What happens when a democrat violates the 2nd amendment because he is trying to fix gun crime? There is a reason we place limits on the power of the president.
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Holy crap man!
“he has tried to balloon the authority of the president with more executive orders that have reached farther than ever before.”
Joe Biden’s fucking auto pen ruled this country with unquestioned authority, and the meat puppets screaming “King!” sat contentedly on the floor licking their balls. It conducted a full scale treasonous invasion of this country, and the meat puppets ordered Mexican takeout while trying on their new dresses, girls did too.
…. and for months we have seen that what some anonymous staffer could do with Joe Biden’s auto pen, the elected President of the United States, according to you and all the rest, DOES NOT HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO UNDO.
Trumps response to this judicial tyranny? He waits for the fucking Supreme Court to get around to restoring the separation of powers.
Acting like a King??????
Look, you guys are playing with real fire here. When you so fucking in-your-face push for the extinction of the rule of law in this country, you are hastening the day when decent men will have no choice left to them to restore it, other than by force.
You folks seem to think this is some political game, like you can propagandize, subvert institutions, and then slip the noose of tyranny over the people’s heads when they aren’t looking, and clap your hands and say “We win the game - you must submit to the government we just stole!”
Read your history - it’s not a game. You folks always end up somewhere out in the country with dirt shoveled on your faces.
Politically of course.
#1. There is little more than suspicion that orders were signed by autopen without Biden's knowledge and consent so nothing conclusive can be said of that. Not saying it is impossible or that it never happened but nothing is ever going to come of it because no one is going to admit to such a crime and Biden is never going to come forward and say he didn't authorize the autopen for some/all of the documents.
#2. Biden's handling of the border was absolutely terrible but would not meet the definition of treason. Don't parrot Trump's words just because he throws out that kind of thing.
#3 I am no Biden fan at all, we can point out terrible things he did all day long and be in complete agreement, but that still doesn't justify what Trump is doing.
#4. We either have constitutional principles on rights and the restrictions of power by the government or we don't. Any argument that Trump needs extra power beyond what he is allowed because he needs to fix whatever Democrats screwed up is implicitly saying rights and restrictions on power aren't that important and violations are ok when it is our guy.
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funny that you talk about "little more than suspicion" the same night you make a post about "red flags" about trump-epstein,,,
#1. There is little more than suspicion that orders were signed by autopen without Biden's knowledge and consent so nothing conclusive can be said of that. Not saying it is impossible or that it never happened but nothing is ever going to come of it because no one is going to admit to such a crime and Biden is never going to come forward and say he didn't authorize the autopen for some/all of the documents.
#2. Biden's handling of the border was absolutely terrible but would not meet the definition of treason. Don't parrot Trump's words just because he throws out that kind of thing.
#3 I am no Biden fan at all, we can point out terrible things he did all day long and be in complete agreement, but that still doesn't justify what Trump is doing.
#4. We either have constitutional principles on rights and the restrictions of power by the government or we don't. Any argument that Trump needs extra power beyond what he is allowed because he needs to fix whatever Democrats screwed up is implicitly saying rights and restrictions on power aren't that important and violations are ok when it is our guy.
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That logic justifies any person in power to abuse their power.
What happens when a democrat violates the 2nd amendment because he is trying to fix gun crime?
What goes around comes around.
When Trump does it, he's a King. A Tyrant. A Dictator. A ______(fill in the blank).
When the demorats do it it's ok. Everything is all flowers and rainbows.
Again. Drastic times calls for Drastic measures. It didn't have to be like this. And it eventually won't. But "orange man" has to fix it first.
Some people would argue " In Trump we Trust."
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#1. There is little more than suspicion that orders were signed by autopen without Biden's knowledge and consent so nothing conclusive can be said of that. Not saying it is impossible or that it never happened but nothing is ever going to come of it because no one is going to admit to such a crime and Biden is never going to come forward and say he didn't authorize the autopen for some/all of the documents.
#2. Biden's handling of the border was absolutely terrible but would not meet the definition of treason. Don't parrot Trump's words just because he throws out that kind of thing.
#3 I am no Biden fan at all, we can point out terrible things he did all day long and be in complete agreement, but that still doesn't justify what Trump is doing.
#4. We either have constitutional principles on rights and the restrictions of power by the government or we don't. Any argument that Trump needs extra power beyond what he is allowed because he needs to fix whatever Democrats screwed up is implicitly saying rights and restrictions on power aren't that important and violations are ok when it is our guy.
Look, I could use a thousand words here, but I’ll cut to the chase: You folks are enraged at the dismantling of your carefully constructed perversion of our culture and institutions.
All that work insinuating yourselves into power, and laundering your tyranny through our government, such that, I don’t know, for example BORDER AGENTS ARE ORDERED TO CHANNEL ILLEGAL ALIENS INTO OUR COUNTRY INSTEAD OF KEEPING THEM OUT! MONEY TAKEN FROM OUR INCOMES AT THE THREAT OF IRS PROSECUTION IS USED TO LURE THEM AND PUT THEM UP IN HOTELS WHILE HOMELESS AMERICANS DIE ON OUR STREETS!
Anyway, this picture is a perfect representation of what’s really happening here, and we all fucking know it! The whole “slandering us with what you actually are” thing is dead baby, but we know it’s all you got.
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/NVmxx5GoUWI/maxresdefault.jpg)
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#1. There is little more than suspicion that orders were signed by autopen without Biden's knowledge and consent so nothing conclusive can be said of that. Not saying it is impossible or that it never happened but nothing is ever going to come of it because no one is going to admit to such a crime and Biden is never going to come forward and say he didn't authorize the autopen for some/all of the documents.
#2. Biden's handling of the border was absolutely terrible but would not meet the definition of treason. Don't parrot Trump's words just because he throws out that kind of thing.
#3 I am no Biden fan at all, we can point out terrible things he did all day long and be in complete agreement, but that still doesn't justify what Trump is doing.
#4. We either have constitutional principles on rights and the restrictions of power by the government or we don't. Any argument that Trump needs extra power beyond what he is allowed because he needs to fix whatever Democrats screwed up is implicitly saying rights and restrictions on power aren't that important and violations are ok when it is our guy.
lul, bruh, healthcare worker.
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funny that you talk about "little more than suspicion" the same night you make a post about "red flags" about trump-epstein,,,
Another headshot from the sniper extraordinaire.
Figuratively, of course.
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#1. There is little more than suspicion that orders were signed by autopen without Biden's knowledge and consent so nothing conclusive can be said of that. Not saying it is impossible or that it never happened but nothing is ever going to come of it because no one is going to admit to such a crime and Biden is never going to come forward and say he didn't authorize the autopen for some/all of the documents.
Also, just can’t let this absurd statement pass:
“… without Biden’s knowledge and consent so nothing conclusive can be said of that.“
The whole issue for the country was not IF Biden was incompetent during his presidency, but rather, in what part of it WAS HE ACTUALLY COMPETENT?
Putting aside all the video evidence, as well as statements from credible people who interacted with him, let’s go through some steps together:
First they hid it as best the could, then came the debate, then came the firestorm that they hid it, then came the stepping down as a candidate, then came the installation of Harris as candidate - with no vote by any meat puppet - then came the historic loss, remember?
None of this is not a historic reality that every single one of us lived through, just a few months ago.
Seriously, do you write this stuff after a 24-hour bender or something?
Up your game man!
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Also, just can’t let this absurd statement pass:
“… without Biden’s knowledge and consent so nothing conclusive can be said of that.“
The whole issue for the country was not IF Biden was incompetent during his presidency, but rather, in what part of it WAS HE ACTUALLY COMPETENT?
Putting aside all the video evidence, as well as statements from credible people who interacted with him, let’s go through some steps together:
First they hid it as best the could, then came the debate, then came the firestorm that they hid it, then came the stepping down as a candidate, then came the installation of Harris as candidate - with no vote by any meat puppet - then came the historic loss, remember?
None of this is not a historic reality that every single one of us lived through, just a few months ago.
Seriously, do you write this stuff after a 24-hour bender or something?
Up your game man!
He sees himself as the pivot point for any topics that interest him. Once he starts posting, the topic always becomes all about him -- what his words meant outside of the plain English definitions of what he literally said, why he won't answer questions but believes others are required to, why his demonstrably incorrect posts are not wrong, and all the hypothetical things that might exist so as to make everything anyone says wrong.
He's not here to converse, but more to argue and be contrary. Those of us on his radar for calling out his BS are like magnets -- an irresistible force that requires him to reply often with nothing to add other than his random thoughts.
I just watched Wayne's World, and it reminded me so much of the intellectual degree which EEF's comments tend to mimic. Just saying whatever random thought crosses his mind so he is included in the conversation with no need to contribute anything of substance.
https://youtu.be/4m2WutlqBk0
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He sees himself as the pivot point for any topics that interest him. Once he starts posting, the topic always becomes all about him -- what his words meant outside of the plain English definitions of what he literally said, why he won't answer questions but believes others are required to, why his demonstrably incorrect posts are not wrong, and all the hypothetical things that might exist so as to make everything anyone says wrong.
He's not here to converse, but more to argue and be contrary. Those of us on his radar for calling out his BS are like magnets -- an irresistible force that requires him to reply often with nothing to add other than his random thoughts.
I just watched Wayne's World, and it reminded me so much of the intellectual degree which EEF's comments tend to mimic. Just saying whatever random thought crosses his mind so he is included in the conversation with no need to contribute anything of substance.
Way!
Or maybe he does some good buds and then hits the keyboard, yeah!
EEF and friends
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funny that you talk about "little more than suspicion" the same night you make a post about "red flags" about trump-epstein,,,
Feel free to post any evidence that the autopen was used without his permission.
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What goes around comes around.
When Trump does it, he's a King. A Tyrant. A Dictator. A ______(fill in the blank).
When the demorats do it it's ok. Everything is all flowers and rainbows.
Again. Drastic times calls for Drastic measures. It didn't have to be like this. And it eventually won't. But "orange man" has to fix it first.
Some people would argue " In Trump we Trust."
Personally I don't care if a politician checks every single block for me, I hold the constitution and its checks on power above that. We can't excuse a king president while simultaneously proclaiming the importance of the constitution.
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Also, just can’t let this absurd statement pass:
“… without Biden’s knowledge and consent so nothing conclusive can be said of that.“
The whole issue for the country was not IF Biden was incompetent during his presidency, but rather, in what part of it WAS HE ACTUALLY COMPETENT?
Putting aside all the video evidence, as well as statements from credible people who interacted with him, let’s go through some steps together:
First they hid it as best the could, then came the debate, then came the firestorm that they hid it, then came the stepping down as a candidate, then came the installation of Harris as candidate - with no vote by any meat puppet - then came the historic loss, remember?
None of this is not a historic reality that every single one of us lived through, just a few months ago.
Seriously, do you write this stuff after a 24-hour bender or something?
Up your game man!
If you are seeking to press a criminal charge you need to overcome the presumption of innocence. By that I mean if there is a question whether someone did something illegal or not you can't err on the side of guilt and throw them in jail, you err on the side of innocence.
Additionally you are asking Biden to prove a negative, asking him to prove he wasn't suffering a bad episode on some particular day. There is no way to look back and prove whether he had a good or bad day. A cop can't stop you and arrest you for DUI last weekend with his evidence being that you can't prove you weren't drunk.
Note that I haven't made any argument whatsoever that Biden didn't have periods of clear mental decline, he clearly did so we can already agree on that point. However dementia isn't a constant in the sense that behavior is always the same, they can have good days where they are coherent and bad days where they can't function. To prove a signature or batch of signatures was signed without Biden's mental ability to consent you would need evidence that on that particular day he wasn't cognizant. The SCOTUS isn't going to toss out a bunch of autopen signed documents on without something more substantial.
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He sees himself as the pivot point for any topics that interest him. Once he starts posting, the topic always becomes all about him -- what his words meant outside of the plain English definitions of what he literally said, why he won't answer questions but believes others are required to, why his demonstrably incorrect posts are not wrong, and all the hypothetical things that might exist so as to make everything anyone says wrong.
He's not here to converse, but more to argue and be contrary. Those of us on his radar for calling out his BS are like magnets -- an irresistible force that requires him to reply often with nothing to add other than his random thoughts.
Wrong, wrong, and wrong. But trolls don't care about being right so you can take your opinion pleasure yourself with it all you like.
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Personally I don't care if a politician checks every single block for me, I hold the constitution and its checks on power above that. We can't excuse a king president while simultaneously proclaiming the importance of the constitution.
Still waiting for you to post a constitutional red flag law.
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... Note that I haven't made any argument whatsoever that Biden didn't have periods of clear mental decline, he clearly did so we can already agree on that point. However dementia isn't a constant in the sense that behavior is always the same, they can have good days where they are coherent and bad days where they can't function. To prove a signature or batch of signatures was signed without Biden's mental ability to consent you would need evidence that on that particular day he wasn't cognizant. The SCOTUS isn't going to toss out a bunch of autopen signed documents on without something more substantial.
After reading this it's pretty clear that you don't understand what dementia means,
nor "coherent", for that matter.
I still say that you write these things after doing blow in a parked car somewhere, over a 24 hour period, and then rush to a keyboard before you start coming down hard.
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After reading this it's pretty clear that you don't understand what dementia means,
nor "coherent", for that matter.
I still say that you write these things after doing blow in a parked car somewhere, over a 24 hour period, and then rush to a keyboard before you start coming down hard.
True!
I don't think a court would rule that a person with dementia is "mostly competent" or "is competent on indeterminable days and at indeterminable times, but incompetent the other days and times."
When it comes to making decisions that impact the economics, social issues, and national security of the nation, we shouldn't have to guess whether a demonstrably bad call was made on a good day or not.
As for all those pardons, it's been reported that Biden did not approve every one of them. He supposedly set down some guidelines, and his staff picked the people to pardon or commute their sentences using the autopen. Biden was never consulted about each name individually.
Sounds like we've gone beyond "The SCOTUS isn't going to toss out a bunch of autopen signed documents on without something more substantial" and squarely into "his staff made the decisions without Biden's final approval."
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Still waiting for you to post a constitutional red flag law.
I did, you had a different opinion. That should be the end of that discussion but you want to keep trolling it along. I am not taking your bait. :stopjack:
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After reading this it's pretty clear that you don't understand what dementia means,
nor "coherent", for that matter.
I still say that you write these things after doing blow in a parked car somewhere, over a 24 hour period, and then rush to a keyboard before you start coming down hard.
Thats a rather odd and baseless assumption. Makes me question what substance lead you to come up with such a unique theory.
I think don't understand what dementia means. Dementia is not a specific disease but a broad term which covers a number of different mental conditions. Dementia usually worsens over time and a person with dementia can have better and worse days in terms of cognitive abilities.
You are the one seeking to undo Biden's orders on question of his mental abilities at the time therefore the burden of proof is on you to make the case that Biden didn't or couldn't have consented to the use of the autopen. The SCOTUS isn't going to overturn any of his orders because you show a dozen clips of Biden confused during speeches.
But lets say we take your argument as a valid reason to overturn Biden's orders. I similar, albeit weaker, case can be made about Trump as well. He has on multiple occasions made comments consistent with early stages of dementia. So play the card at your own risk, if Biden's orders can get overturned this way the democrats will absolutely play the same care against Trump.
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Thats a rather odd and baseless assumption. Makes me question what substance lead you to come up with such a unique theory.
I think don't understand what dementia means. Dementia is not a specific disease but a broad term which covers a number of different mental conditions. Dementia usually worsens over time and a person with dementia can have better and worse days in terms of cognitive abilities.
You are the one seeking to undo Biden's orders on question of his mental abilities at the time therefore the burden of proof is on you to make the case that Biden didn't or couldn't have consented to the use of the autopen. The SCOTUS isn't going to overturn any of his orders because you show a dozen clips of Biden confused during speeches.
But lets say we take your argument as a valid reason to overturn Biden's orders. I similar, albeit weaker, case can be made about Trump as well. He has on multiple occasions made comments consistent with early stages of dementia. So play the card at your own risk, if Biden's orders can get overturned this way the democrats will absolutely play the same care against Trump.
Hello Mr. Fish :wave:
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Feel free to post any evidence that the autopen was used without his permission.
Prove that he was actually functioning as president and it wasn't just the deep state running a Weekend At Bernies scam.
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Feel free to post any evidence that the autopen was used without his Jill's permission.
:D ;D ;)
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If joe gets deposed and has to answer any questions about the autopen, it could be a real tragedy to watch.
Joe will most likely not be able to answer or understand the questions.
I know the following video was posted at least once but it is fitting to watch it again.
The first time I saw it, it was funny but it was not so funny later.
I did not know whether to laugh or cry.
Bad people (both foreign and domestic) took advantage of Joe's weakness.
https://youtu.be/QAZTFuVVBeg
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I have no doubt in my mind that the 46th POTUS had cognitive problems.
And I also believe that even if he managed to win the presidency when he was younger, he still would have been a weak, bumbling, bad POTUS.
Not a leader.
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Feel free to post any evidence that the autopen was used without his Jill's permission.
:D ;D ;)
Nice
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I have no doubt in my mind that the 46th POTUS had cognitive problems.
And I also believe that even if he managed to win the presidency when he was younger, he still would have been a weak, bumbling, bad POTUS.
Not a leader.
Excellent criminal mind though.
Dementia ultimately did away virtually all of it - only the inherent malice was left at the end - but boy I betcha there was some good stories in there …
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Excellent criminal mind though.
Dementia ultimately did away virtually all of it - only the inherent malice was left at the end - but boy I betcha there was some good stories in there …
He had an entire crime family with vested interests helping him make decisions.
Hunter went from a million bucks a year as an energy group board member to more millions as an energy consultant in China to ... making crappy paintings with straws and selling them for upwards of a million each? Right. seems plausible for someone without any experience in any industry, much less energy.
Biden called Hunter the smartest man he knows. That comment alone demonstrates major cognitive impairment. I don't think it was an intentional lie. It was what he truly believed.
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He had an entire crime family with vested interested helping him make decisions.
Hunter went from a million bucks a year as an energy group board member to more millions as an energy consultant in China to ... making crappy paintings with straws and selling them for upwards of a million each? Right. seems plausible for someone without any experience in any industry, much less energy.
Biden called Hunter the smartest man he knows. That comment alone demonstrates major cognitive impairment. I don't think it was an intentional lie. It was what he truly believed.
Yep, Democrat party corruption has been so in your face for so frickin long that it doesn't even occur to them to even try to cover it up anymore.
Yet, then we see all these chimpanzees who gleefully support that open corruption screaming "Criminal!, Fascist!" at literally anyone who runs against them. You could put the proverbial Ham Sammich on the ticket against their tranny or whatever, and by Election Day they'd be accusing ol' Ham of the Holocaust.
They Live was not just a movie ...
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Yep, Democrat party corruption has been so in your face for so frickin long that it doesn't even occur to them to even try to cover it up anymore.
Yet, then we see all these chimpanzees who gleefully support that open corruption screaming "Criminal!, Fascist!" at literally anyone who runs against them. You could put the proverbial Ham Sammich on the ticket against their tranny or whatever, and by Election Day they'd be accusing ol' Ham of the Holocaust.
They Live was not just a movie ...
One day, it will be revealed that soy products create a brain that's more receptive to mind control efforts. Vegetarians of the country, unite!
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One day, it will be revealed that soy products create a brain that's more receptive to mind control efforts. Vegetarians of the country, unite!
Research it’s effects on estrogen levels and then consider female voting patterns
#literallyeverythingisaconspiracy