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General Topics => General Discussion => Topic started by: Scar16 on January 09, 2013, 11:18:04 AM
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Poor customer service, called to get price check n see what optics they have in stock, they said thy cant give that info over the phone. Seriously, I'm coming all the way from the west side, and if I come to town and if they don't have what I need......Someone is gonna get cracks. They can't even give an inventory check over the phone for a fuckin optic.
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Honolulu, nee Magnum, Firearms has a reputation for angry customers and lost business.
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Does HNL firearms have an optic the other gun stores don't?
I'm sure all the other LGS would be happy to make your trip from the west side worth it.
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might as well make the trip worth it and stop at every single gun shop
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I've said before and I'll say it again: Honolulu Firearms is full of assholes.
Take your business to SEC, OGC, or The Gun Source.
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X-Ring is in Waipahu...Much less of a drive. Brian or Dex would be able to tell you if they have what you need in stock and maybe see how much it would be to order.
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I went to Magnum once and never went back. I didn't have a bad experience but they're way overpriced. Based on what I been hearing recently, the new guys there dunno wtf they doing. That's probably the reason they can't give you an inventory check on the phone, can't tell the difference between a red dot, scope, illuminated retic scope, etc.
Does HNL firearms have an optic the other gun stores don't?
I'm sure all the other LGS would be happy to make your trip from the west side worth it.
In my experience with all the other stores, if they don't have it in stock they can probably order it for you. If their distributors or other channels of supply don't have it available, then they can usually direct you someone else who can get it. Call any other store and see what they can do for you. Maybe X-Ring like flyboy said so you don't have to drive so far.
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I usually go there for the indoor range since it's the only place ATM practice engaging a target at X<15 yards. Guys in the front are pretty chill IMO.
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the first time I went in HNL firearms after the new ownership and they were cool prices seemed to go down a little, but I went in again last month and it felt like magnum was still running it.
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Does HNL firearms have an optic the other gun stores don't?
I'm sure all the other LGS would be happy to make your trip from the west side worth it.
Well many great shops like ogc are out of stock on the cheaper optics, don't feel like spending over a g on a trijicon which they do have in stock, plus I'd kick myself in da ass if I pay more for the optic than what my gun is worth :D
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X-Ring is in Waipahu...Much less of a drive. Brian or Dex would be able to tell you if they have what you need in stock and maybe see how much it would be to order.
Yeah I already talked to them, nothing in stock
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The only credit I will give that shop is that they have good inventory and a indoor range but I heard you have to buy their expensive ammo
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I usually go there for the indoor range since it's the only place ATM practice engaging a target at X<15 yards. Guys in the front are pretty chill IMO.
How much is ammo and what's the furthest distance you can shoot there
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I've said before and I'll say it again: Honolulu Firearms is full of assholes.
Take your business to SEC, OGC, or The Gun Source.
My thoughts exactly
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Well many great shops like ogc are out of stock on the cheaper optics, don't feel like spending over a g on a trijicon which they do have in stock, plus I'd kick myself in da ass if I pay more for the optic than what my gun is worth :D
One thing I was told before was to expect to spend 2-4 times the amount of the rifle on some quality glass
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Went in on 1/7/13 looked around not one person ask me for help so I just walked out!
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One thing I was told before was to expect to spend 2-4 times the amount of the rifle on some quality glass
Holy cow. I picked up a $500 M&P 15-22, putting a $2,000 scope on it seems like way too much (I use a $40 plinker scope). Also, on a $3,000 SCAR expect to spend $6,000-12,000? Hot damn. To each his own but I can't justify spending that kinda cash on punching holes in paper at Kokohead.
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Holy cow. I picked up a $500 M&P 15-22, putting a $2,000 scope on it seems like way too much (I use a $40 plinker scope). Also, on a $3,000 SCAR expect to spend $6,000-12,000? Hot damn. To each his own but I can't justify spending that kinda cash on punching holes in paper at Kokohead.
The person told me that in reference to putting really nice glass ($3000 Leupold, Nightforce, Horus, etc.) on a $1000 bolt action (Remington 700, Savage 10, etc.)
For an M&P .22, I'd probably go with an Aimpont T-1 whenever I could afford it.
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Holy cow. I picked up a $500 M&P 15-22, putting a $2,000 scope on it seems like way too much (I use a $40 plinker scope). Also, on a $3,000 SCAR expect to spend $6,000-12,000? Hot damn. To each his own but I can't justify spending that kinda cash on punching holes in paper at Kokohead.
for real right?
im flinching just looking at a 350 dollar red dot optic im planning on in the future. i cant imagine dropping a grand on an aimpoint just to have a good red dot, let alone say, 1500 on a nice leupold or nightforce scope.
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One thing I was told before was to expect to spend 2-4 times the amount of the rifle on some quality glass
That's what I was told as well. So far, I have a $800 Vortex PST FFP on my Rem 700, which I bought for around $650. I really wanted a NightForce NXS, but that would've been around $1800.
For a M&P 15/22, I would go for a cheapo red dot or maybe something like a Nikon scope in the $200 max range. I'll save the Aimpoint Micros and EoTechs for the 5.56/.223 guns.
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That's what I was told as well. So far, I have a $800 Vortex PST FFP on my Rem 700, which I bought for around $650. I really wanted a NightForce NXS, but that would've been around $1800.
For a M&P 15/22, I would go for a cheapo red dot or maybe something like a Nikon scope in the $200 max range. I'll save the Aimpoint Micros and EoTechs for the 5.56/.223 guns.
This. Burris has a red dot that I'm pretty sure is under $100, and would be plenty for a little 22. I wouldn't say you need to spend "X times" the amount of the gun when buying a scope; but it's a good rule of thumb to be prepared to spend the same amount on the scope as you did on the rifle, and in some cases, more. It pains me when someone with a nice, tricked out rifle thinks they're not capable of shooting at mid to long range when it's actually not them or the gun, it's the $150 Tasco that won't click up or return to zero consistently.
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I just got a primary arms red dot scope that came yesterday. Thing is pretty good quality for 89 bucks! I havent taken it to the range yet but affixed it on my M&P 15-22 and am really happy with is so far. Came in two days and shipping was only like 12 bucks
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That $40 Barska holds zero on my 15-22 like a champ. I have a $200 Vortex Viper II on my PWS MK114. If I ever upgraded it would be in the $1000-2000 range and the Vortex would go on the 15-22. I think the other factor that is often overlooked is the mount. I have Primary Arms AR-15 mounts. It's not the most expensive stuff out there but it does the job and it's all one piece so I don't have to fiddle around lining up 2 rings.
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Ive had nothing but poor expiriences at magnum/hnl firearms. Ive literally seen multiple people with cash in hand turn around and leave the store after the salesmen try and sell them something they didn't come in for.
"I'm interested in glocks, what do you have?"
"Don't get a glock, get a sig instead."
"But I like glocks, everything I've read on them is great. And it fits my budget. Your sigs are twice as much."
"So are you saying your life is only worth so much? Get the sig and be happy."
*turns around and leaves*
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, got my optic at ogc aimpoint pro for lil over 4. Great sight, great price, if those dudes at hnl firearms would have told me what they had in stock I might have bought from them, oh well, your loss! Ogc got my business
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How are they still in business with that crap service?
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How are they still in business with that crap service?
No shit! Desperate people
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How are they still in business with that crap service?
My understanding is that Magnum had the contract with HPD, so they didn't have to care about customers or service. They just let the government $$$ roll in.
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What's their excuse now?
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Nicest guys I met....
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I can't argue with their Sig logic. I love sigs.
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My understanding is that Magnum had the contract with HPD, so they didn't have to care about customers or service. They just let the government $$$ roll in.
Art is a shrewed businessman. To him if you cant afford it you cant own it. I have known him for 35 years. He had a different perspective on business and his pa-ke nature was always there. The things he did would always crack me up. When i was in the automotive business it was a constant battle with him. When i got into computer repair he needed my services so i saw a different side of him. But he never changed his way of doing business since the "bug" days. He use to sell VW parts in his garage. He grew up in Nuuanu and was the paperboy for the neighborhood. He did business the same way.
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What's their excuse now?
probably cause they didn't have to pay anything for their current inventory. So they don't care if it sells or not because they have no money invested in it. I guess as long as they make enough to pay the rent and insurance, that's good enough for them. Their employee overhead is probably cheap too cause their employees are probably volunteers or getting paid minimum wage...which is why they don't know shit :rofl:
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I miss Art. :(
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I miss Art. :(
I hate to say it, but you have a point...... :-\ :-\
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I got an Nightforce 3.5-15x50 on my REM 700 308 a rifle that Eric at ogc put together for me . I must say looking thru it and watching my heads land 1500 yards away . Mighty nice . As an old timer once told me "you only can hit what you can see " :shaka:
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I miss Art. :(
Yup.... That place needs an "Art"
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Eh! No be so hard on those guys! I'd rather have them there than not at all. I just think of them as a live stroll through a firearms catalog. I browse their over priced stock while i'm in town to reassure myself that that's the product i'm looking for and the go to the other LGS to pick it up.
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For us, we go Central Guns and Ammo... Maui...
Allan and Bernice... No probs. If can, can, if no can, no can... but always freindly and talk story.... Good dealers.... We always try an shop local, but they got our biz.... :thumbsup:
Just our 2 cents....