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General Topics => Political Discussion => Topic started by: Flapp_Jackson on August 15, 2025, 06:18:32 PM
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So, I saw a clip from this Joe Rogan Experience episode with Bernie Sanders and had to go to the full video to verify it.
One thing to remember is that Bernie is a zealot. He cares more about his ideology and belief system than what the facts staring him in the face have to say. Is he lying, or are his handlers and staffers feeding him the information in a way that validates and affirms his beliefs?
Bernie brings up the topic of corruption in political campaign financing. In short, he blames the SCOTUS for a 10-11 yr-old decision that let's rich people donate as much money to political campaigns as they want, and the result of which was President Trump winning.
Hold that thought....
From the transcript:
Bernie --> I think that's probably the worst decision that the Supreme Court has ever
made. So what is the result of that decision? The result of that decision, let's
take us to where we are today, is that Elon Musk, and I know Elon was on
your show, and he's here in Austin. huh? Okay and I've we could talk about
Elon, but he spent $270 million to elect Trump as president. Okay. i think
that's absurd that any one person ....
And Rogan breaks in to ask, "What's the most someone donated towards the Harris campaign?"
Bernie didn't know but tried to act like he did, "they spent a lot of money on Harris as well."
Rogan answered his own question: $1.5 Billion.
After looking at current numbers on OpenSecrets, the combined amount of funds received and spent by the Harris campaign was $1.9 Billion.
Of that $1.9B, 58.58% came from "Large donors". 58.85% = $1.113B
Compared to Harris' big money donors, Musk's $270M is not such an overwhelming amount that he should be singled out as the person who "bought" the election for Trump. it's just not factual.
I wish Rogan had pointed out that Trump couldn't have bought the election when his campaign spent less than Harris.
HARRIS CAMPAIGN
CANDIDATE COMMITTEE MONEY: $1,151,260,254
OUTSIDE MONEY: $842,989,903
TOTAL: $1,994,250,157
TRUMP CAMPAIGN
CANDIDATE COMMITTEE MONEY: $463,662,725
OUTSIDE MONEY: $988,954,718
TOTAL: $1,452,617,443
My math tells me Trump spent about half a billion LESS THAN Harris, but for some odd reason, Bernie thinks he "bought the election?"
To make it fair, i checked large contributions for Trump as well. 69.38% came from large donors.
When you apply that to the $1.45B total, that's $1.011B -- which iis $102M less than Harris' large donor total of $1.113B.
Bernie came to the podcast interview well prepared with lots and lots of notes and source material. Yet, his conclusions are based on faulty logic and misrepresented facts.
The gaslighting never stops with these evil people. They can't admit that Trump beat them TWICE, and they have nobody to blame but their party.
https://youtu.be/mYVzme2fybU
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Bernie also used to blame "Millionaires" a lot.
Until he became one.
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Bernie also used to blame "Millionaires" a lot.
Until he became one.
goalpost moving...sound familiar?
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Bernie also used to blame "Millionaires" a lot.
Until he became one.
While he is no Elon Musk or Donald Trump as far as wealth, this guy is still in the top 1% of wealthy Americans.
A filthy rich socialist. Is there even such a thing?
Only if they are the ones pulling the strings while the masses suffer in squalor and continue to drink the kool aid.
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While he is no Elon Musk or Donald Trump as far as wealth, this guy is still in the top 1% of wealthy Americans.
A filthy rich socialist. Is there even such a thing?
Only if they are the ones pulling the strings while the masses suffer in squalor and continue to drink the kool aid.
The biggest issue I have with Bernie is he still throws in with the people who cheated him out of a fair chance with the nomination not once, but twice. That signals one thing to most people -- he's been compensated in other ways.
He pretends to be highly principled, but his actions tell a different story. He's never held a real job outside of politics. Doesn't take a genius to know that someone able to do that for so long is willing to play ball with the party masters.
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The biggest issue I have with Bernie is he still throws in with the people who cheated him out of a fair chance with the nomination not once, but twice. That signals one thing to most people -- he's been compensated in other ways.
He pretends to be highly principled, but his actions tell a different story. He's never held a real job outside of politics. Doesn't take a genius to know that someone able to do that for so long is willing to play ball with the party masters.
Reminds me of this other guy. Loves to talk gibberish, eats ice cream and wanders off in la-la land while others are wondering what da hell he's doing.
But he's gone now, thankfully, at home drooling, with his wife mommy dabbing his mouth with his used diaper and lamenting the days when she was the First Bitch.
She's just a regular bitch now.
Thankfully.
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Reminds me of this other guy. Loves to talk gibberish, eats ice cream and wanders off in la-la land while others are wondering what da hell he's doing.
But he's gone now, thankfully, at home drooling, with his wife mommy dabbing his mouth with his used diaper and lamenting the days when she was the First Bitch.
She's just a regular bitch now.
Thankfully.
She probably commands a large fee for speeches.
He, OTOH, should have Hunter teach him how to make blow paintings with straws.
i still crack up (pun intended) over Hunter making blow paintings. Tell me you're a cocaine addict without telling me you're a cocaine addict!