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General Topics => Political Discussion => Topic started by: GlockNewb on September 10, 2025, 09:35:04 AM
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https://www.foxnews.com/us/charlie-kirk-shot-utah-event-hospitalized
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I saw the video. It looks really bad. Neck shot followed by a huge stream of blood.
Apparently it was a deranged boomer Blangiardi look-alike. We have a lot of those around here.
At this point everyone should be on the lookout for deranged leftist attacks.
The people in your life who hold extreme leftist views should all be treated with extreme caution.
The media got them all wound up for murder and now it's open season on anything that represents traditional values.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/shots-reportedly-fired-charlie-kirk-event-utah-valley-university
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I saw the video. It looks really bad. Neck shot followed by a huge stream of blood.
Apparently it was a deranged boomer Blangiardi look-alike. We have a lot of those around here.
At this point everyone should be on the lookout for deranged leftist attacks.
The people in your life who hold extreme leftist views should all be treated with extreme caution.
The media got them all wound up for murder and now it's open season on anything that represents traditional values.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/shots-reportedly-fired-charlie-kirk-event-utah-valley-university
Itʻs official: he passed.
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Some have commented that Charlie Kirk has passed.
https://youtu.be/AtO7KW6qjXo
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The Marxists have advanced to the general political assassination stage.
How does this not go kinetic from here?
How?
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Wrong man taken into custody.
The shooter is still on the loose.
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https://www.youtube.com/live/f76SnGXWOg0?si=005BdHgZKQgCgQJB
Live-streaming now
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https://youtu.be/8gN_X6ZLMDA?si=okjqpM88_GVP5FDL
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200 yard shot according to HNN.
I feel so sorry for his children. He seemed like a great guy and was literally willing to talk with anyone.
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"could be one of his supporters shooting off in celebration"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXCEznen1l8
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From ZeroHedge
“Civil terrorism expert Jason Curtis Anderson of One City Rising states:
The assassination of Charlie Kirk marks a dangerous escalation in America’s culture war—where the battle of ideas is now escalating into political violence against those who run organizations devoted to debate and civil discourse. Very few people grasp the gravity of this moment . Incidents like this don’t exist in isolation; they risk triggering a chain of events that can further destabilize the country.
Whether it’s the anti-ICE movement, pro-Palestinian agitators, anarchist networks, or NGO-backed permanent protest groups like Indivisible, we are watching the rise of something new and deeply alarming. As Tal Fortgang wrote in City Journal, America is entering a new era of civil terrorism—where the goal is no longer peaceful protest, but intimidation, silencing, and destabilization of our democratic order. ”
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From ZeroHedge
“Civil terrorism expert Jason Curtis Anderson of One City Rising states:
The assassination of Charlie Kirk marks a dangerous escalation in America’s culture war—where the battle of ideas is now escalating into political violence against those who run organizations devoted to debate and civil discourse. Very few people grasp the gravity of this moment . Incidents like this don’t exist in isolation; they risk triggering a chain of events that can further destabilize the country.
Whether it’s the anti-ICE movement, pro-Palestinian agitators, anarchist networks, or NGO-backed permanent protest groups like Indivisible, we are watching the rise of something new and deeply alarming. As Tal Fortgang wrote in City Journal, America is entering a new era of civil terrorism—where the goal is no longer peaceful protest, but intimidation, silencing, and destabilization of our democratic order. ”
Where has this guy been? Every conservative who schedules a speaking engagement at a traditionally liberal college has had to hire massive security to protect them before, during and after the event. Some colleges have canceled events like this due to threats of violence, including bomb threats, rather than allow the person to decide for themselves if the risk is worth the benefit.
Riley Gaines 'ambushed and physically hit' after
Saving Women's Sports speech at San Francisco State
Former NCAA swimmer Riley Gaines was barricaded in a room at San Francisco
State University Thursday night after she was physically assaulted following a
speech to students about saving women's sports at a Turning Point USA and
Leadership Institute event on the campus.
Louis Barker, Riley's husband, said he had brief conversations with her while
she was barricaded in the room for nearly three hours.
"She told me she was hit multiple times by a guy in a dress. I was shaking. It
made me that mad. It makes me sick to feel so helpless about it," Barker said.
"She was under police protection and was still hit by a man wearing a dress."
Have people forgotten about the GOP Senate Softball Team getting shot up by a Bernie supporter? Trump having multiple threats and at least one assassination attempt? A man with weapons and duct tape arrested outside of Kavanaugh's home? GOP campaign offices torched and bombed? Jewish students were barricaded in a school building while Hamas supporters outside tried to break in and attack them. A Transgender shooter attacked a christian school killing two and injuring more. The list is endless.
When you sow seeds of hatred, you can't be surprised when violence is reaped.
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Like I mentioned in another thread, nobody is safe out there anymore.
Sharing political views, ideologies, civil debates on social issues. Those things are gone now.
Only hate. There's only hate out there. Your point of view will be silenced by haters who disagree.
200 yards away? Tell me this wasn't a planned and pre-meditated murder and I'll tell you that you are delusional.
This is how cowards deal with differing points of view.
Even for some decent and caring people out there, thoughts and prayers, ever increasing at an alarming rate, seems almost pointless now.
But is there anything else we can do? Besides crossing the line and becoming just like them?
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Another leftist trying to kill a conservative. Since their logic has been proven wrong time after time, the only thing they have left is violence.
I'm already seeing leftist posting his stance on the 2A. Like usual, these people lack morals.
The hard reality is that this will limit others like him who are doing public speaking events, which is a win for the left. This is what the left wants, to silence any opposition. Wait till they escalate their attacks on regular conservatives. I've seen many vids of a MAGA hat being stolen or signage/tables being destroyed by leftist, including Charlie Kirks signage/tables. I think he even got his MAGA hat stolen once.
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But is there anything else we can do? Besides crossing the line and becoming just like them?
Unfortunately, if human history is any guide, you may ultimately be required, by their attempt to exterminate you and yours, to return fire.
This is not becoming them, it is “un”-becoming THEM, a necessary thing to preserve civilization.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzbVFxdjHe0
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This tragedy will be used to justify the Palantir social credit system.
Hopefully enough people on the right understand the nature of corporatism by now.
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You can't stop crazy people from doing crazy things.
Practice situational awareness.
It's not hard to do.
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If I were an Utah legislator I’d introduce a bill mandating firing squad for all convicted of murder by assassination (firearm at distance), retroactive to 1/1/25.
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:'( :worship:
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You can't stop crazy people from doing crazy things.
Practice situational awareness.
It's not hard to do.
Agree. Frustrating though because of all the laws in your way while you are doing it.
The only thing I have going for me is thoughts and prayers if I get killed in the process.
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Situational awareness doesn't mean you should walk around Times supermarket at the low-ready position.
If you read the writings of Jeff Cooper, he describes the 3 conditions.
White
Yellow
Red
It's not rocket science.
White is when you had too many Modelo and are about to pass out.
Yellow is when you are awake and sort of aware of what's going on all around you.
You can maintain condition yellow pretty much all the time.
Red is obvious. FYI, I maintain condition red when I drive on the freeway nowadays.
It's CRAZY out there!
This is just general advice for y'all to think about since people seem to be sliding downhill pretty fast.
It would not have helped Kirk, but it may have helped that girl on the bus.
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Well, really hoped I’d never see this day come, but it’s here.
A hideous crime meant to dehumanize us and cause terror.
All it has accomplished is that it has confirmed - for millions of us - that our country is not secure until they are eliminated from it.
That’s their prize - let them have their fill of it.
The authorities can only potentially head this off by somehow getting way ahead of it all - I.e. declaring their networks and funders as domestic terrorists (you know, like Traditional Catholics under Biden), and backing that up with arrests, etc.
Otherwise, eventually, there will be open warfare in the streets.
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I mentioned this before, (maybe 2 years ago,) part of basic wartime strategy is to eliminate community leaders and teachers.
In this way, sheeple have nobody to follow or disagree with the regime trying to control the country.
Charlie Kirk was a leader, so people rallied around him and his ideology.
That's why the leftists tried to assassinate Trump.
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Asmongold broke radio silence today in order to address the tens of thousands of leftist vampires who are celebrating this.
His message: You are all on the battlefield now.
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I mentioned this before, (maybe 2 years ago,) part of basic wartime strategy is to eliminate community leaders and teachers.
In this way, sheeple have nobody to follow or disagree with the regime trying to control the country.
Charlie Kirk was a leader, so people rallied around him and his ideology.
That's why the leftists tried to assassinate Trump.
And the left calls them fascist (Charlie/Trump/etc)
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Part of Trump’s speech tonight:
“Trump called Kirk a "martyr for truth" and vowed to crack down on the radical left...
The president continued:
My administration will find each and every one of those who contributed to this atrocity and to other political violence, including the organizations that fund it and support it, as well as those who go after our judges, law enforcement officials, and everyone else who brings order to our country.
I am filled with grief and anger at the heinous assassination of Charlie Kirk on a college campus in Utah. Charlie inspired millions, tonight all who knew him and loved him are united in shock and horror.”
Really hope this gets aggressively implemented - the fuse is lit already…..
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Civil War is coming. A different kind than the one in 1861.
But a war nonetheless.
Some would argue it already started.
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So, any bets that the murderer is someone Charlie debated in the past exposing him/her/they as the fool they are?
There's been little official speculation on the killer's motive, but I can't believe it's anything other than political/ideological.
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sick
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RgvF-W_rsw
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so fake
U.S. Representative Jill Tokuda released this statement:
“No matter what side of the aisle we’re on, we are all human -- speaking our truth, standing for what we believe in, connecting with others. When someone is taken by political violence, it tears at the fabric of our democracy and our shared humanity. My heart breaks for Charlie Kirk’s wife and young children. He did not deserve to die. Political violence has no place in a free society, and we are long past the point where thoughts and prayers are enough. We need action, common ground, and the courage to stop senseless tragedies before they happen again.”
https://www.kitv.com/news/politics/hawaii-politicians-react-to-assassination-of-charlie-kirk/article_a0390417-b8fc-44da-b413-0cb32e5955f1.html
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so fake
U.S. Representative Jill Tokuda released this statement:
“No matter what side of the aisle we’re on, we are all human -- speaking our truth, standing for what we believe in, connecting with others. When someone is taken by political violence, it tears at the fabric of our democracy and our shared humanity. My heart breaks for Charlie Kirk’s wife and young children. He did not deserve to die. Political violence has no place in a free society, and we are long past the point where thoughts and prayers are enough. We need action, common ground, and the courage to stop senseless tragedies before they happen again.”
https://www.kitv.com/news/politics/hawaii-politicians-react-to-assassination-of-charlie-kirk/article_a0390417-b8fc-44da-b413-0cb32e5955f1.html
Yeah that makes sense. Disarm the people who are getting murdered so your vax lobotomized trans goons can pick us off.
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You can't stop crazy people from doing crazy things.
Practice situational awareness.
It's not hard to do.
As devastating as the assasinasion is, I can assume it could've just been someone with mental problems. My frustration comes from the people sick enough to comment things like " couldn't happen to a better person", or " he brought it on himself", or " that's what you get". These are people justifying the murder of someone for no other reason than they have a difference of opinion or that his logic in debate make them realize your position is indefensible, so they condone, or encourage annihilation of others. Remember Hitler didn't kill 6 million jews by himself. He had people that accepted his views, then justified his views, then participated in the killing. Well there are far too many people rejoicing at this type of violence. Not far from the participating. Those are the modern day Brown shirts. I just hope they have come to Jesus moment and realize that it is their hate that is taking us to the inevitable end we are heading to. At that time they will need to consider how many people who own guns, and who will never give them up, disagree with their point of view.
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Remember Hitler didn't kill 6 million jews by himself. He had people that accepted his views, then justified his views, then participated in the killing. Well there are far too many people rejoicing at this type of violence. Not far from the participating. Those are the modern day Brown shirts. I just hope they have come to Jesus moment and realize that it is their hate that is taking us to the inevitable end we are heading to. At that time they will need to consider how many people who own guns, and who will never give them up, disagree with their point of view.
THIS!
Unfortunately, today proves the reality of Melville’s quote below:
“What like a bullet can undeceive?”
Game over, Brownshirts.
The range is hot.
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Take screen shots now so that when the time comes for them to face the music you can remind yourself that their tears mean nothing.
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Turning to the bigger picture for a moment, it seems completely plausible that this act is designed to tee up other actions, as is their want.
Already it appears that there were diversionary tactics with the Blangiardi look alike to enable the assassin to escape, etc.
However, the key feature here is that Federal law enforcement / investigative assets are uncharacteristically NOT in their hands now, but are going to be turned against them. Perhaps then they are seeking to provoke a broad based knee-jerk violent response from us IN ORDER TO RALLY SUPPORT? - from their cat ladies and such?
Hope so, as we are not herd animals as they are, and that would be a fatal misread on their part.
Maybe it’s the use of the Feds they want - feeds their fake fascist line?
Anyway, it appears all we may have to do in this circumstance is stand strong, keep prepping, and watch larger forces crack them like a nut.
It’s an interesting set up.
More interested in your thoughts than my prattling on this!
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Multiple patsies makes one wonder if it was a state sponsored actor.
People say that anyone can hit a dinner plate at 200yds these days, but it’s a whole different scenario with that much pressure.
There are so many unknowns with the shooter in the wind and Kash once again coming across as pretty clueless.
The best revenge is to live like Charlie, but be prepared for copycats.
The new style of low-budget public speaking will probably involve a lot more walking around with fewer chairs and podiums.
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.30-06 bolt action Mauser, with the now obligatory gay messages etched on the cartridges, from 140 yards.
Negligible bullet drop from this distance with that cartridge, so not so complicated. Was planned and practiced well ahead of time, lots of people must know something on that campus - I.e. rooftops are almost always locked access…
Cartoonish picture being assembled here
Hi I’m gay
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G0k6dZaXQAAfl7p?format=jpg&name=small)
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Turning to the bigger picture for a moment, it seems completely plausible that this act is designed to tee up other actions, as is their want.
Already it appears that there were diversionary tactics with the Blangiardi look alike to enable the assassin to escape, etc.
However, the key feature here is that Federal law enforcement / investigative assets are uncharacteristically NOT in their hands now, but are going to be turned against them. Perhaps then they are seeking to provoke a broad based knee-jerk violent response from us IN ORDER TO RALLY SUPPORT? - from their cat ladies and such?
Hope so, as we are not herd animals as they are, and that would be a fatal misread on their part.
Maybe it’s the use of the Feds they want - feeds their fake fascist line?
Anyway, it appears all we may have to do in this circumstance is stand strong, keep prepping, and watch larger forces crack them like a nut.
It’s an interesting set up.
More interested in your thoughts than my prattling on this!
Not only did they eliminate a powerful conservative figure, but all future conservative speaking in public engagements will be reduced or cancelled. Ben Shaprio has already cancelled his engagements until further notice.
Crazy Maize also posted a similar message as Tokuda did about mentioning more gun control.
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College age is also military age, although the person in the photo doesn’t seem to carry themselves like a soldier. If it’s not a red herring then it shouldn’t take long to track them down.
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Not only did they eliminate a powerful conservative figure, but all future conservative speaking in public engagements will be reduced or cancelled. Ben Shaprio has already cancelled his engagements until further notice.
Crazy Maize also posted a similar message as Tokuda did about mentioning more gun control.
Hey Maize & Maize 2.0
Guns (and knives) don’t kill people. DEMOCRATS KILL PEOPLE.
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College age is also military age, although the person in the photo doesn’t seem to carry themselves like a soldier. If it’s not a red herring then it shouldn’t take long to track them down.
Absolutely - if they get the legit agents on it.
This was well planned - lots of tattooed deviants crawling around in that bucket to pick up and shake down.
Trump is wrapping himself up in it, so at least we can presume a real full-court press - midterms approach…
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Karl Rhoads says
“DEMOCRATS are the weapon of choice in mass shootings.”
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Redacted said students saw the shooter laying prone on the roof. Yet same thing. Nobody did nothing.
Deja vu. How come?
Almost like the powers to be want it to happen.
We're f*cked if it is true.
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Redacted said students saw the shooter laying prone on the roof. Yet same thing. Nobody did nothing.
Deja vu. How come?
Almost like the powers to be want it to happen.
We're f*cked if it is true.
I saw a vid of someone on a roof. You couldn't see a weapon. Workers are often on roofs doing things. If it was POTUS, then no workers would be allowed on roof tops. But for someone like Kirk who doesn't have that kind of authority to do, it's understandable that no one said anything.
Kirk will be flown on Air Force 2 from UT to AZ. AF1 is any plane that POTUS is on, hence the AF2 call sign.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KO8EPTnGQMY
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Two guys behind Charlie appear to be using hand signals immediately before he was shot.
A private jet with tail number N888KG took off from Provo soon after the shooting and disappeared from radar.
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Charlie Kirk was murdered. Not only to silence him. But to use his murder as a catalyst for civil war.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EPkyxnbr-0
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It’s not like false flags aren’t a thing in this country
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Charlie Kirk was murdered. Not only to silence him. But to use his murder as a catalyst for civil war.
These f@#&ing deadbeats are losing on every issue that they have to stoop this low to force themselves into a staged position of "moral highground" (the italics is sarcasm)
They could not wait to see what the economy will do prior to the midterms so they decide to expedite the possibility of civil unrest. By killing Kirk they are hoping to make a martyr out of him to get us angry.
When we get angry, civil unrest breaks out and Trump sides with his supporters during said war, the left will use that as a weak@$$ strawman basis to claim Trump is enacting an insurrection FR (Sorry libtards a guided tour of Congress does not count!)
Trump should go all out with federal enforcement, round up the illegals via ICE enforcement, lock up the crazies and punish any vandalizing, murdering, peaceful protesters! While he's at it, give any of us who choose to assist National Guard or military while they are being assaulted by said deadbeats legal immunity from civil or legal prosecution (provided we are not doing anything outright illegal during said assistance).
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Two guys behind Charlie appear to be using hand signals immediately before he was shot.
I think this is nothing. At 200 yards, if that was the distance and with a 30-06, wind isn't so much a factor that you need people doing that. It's more the elevation you need to factor in. And from what I saw, it wasn't a windy day. Like you don't see the tent blowing over or things like that.
To be fair, I've never shot at 200 yards before. But I did shoot at 100 yards a Ruger Precision Rifle and was able to hit a 3 inch gong like there's no tomorrow. It was so easy with regular 7.62 ammo that I got bored. And hitting a 6 inch gong consistently with an AR15, regualar 223 ammo and a zero power red dot.
So I'm basing my above at double that distance isnt' that bad compared to a 500 yard shot. I could be wrong.
Edit:
I 4got that I did shoot at 200 yrds with my 22. I hit about 6 inches from where my POA was. And for a 22, even at 50 yards, wind can greatly affect it.
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FBI released imaged of a suspect and asked for the public's help in trying to identify him.
The photos have been published all over social media and the MSM (see below).
What we know about Charlie Kirk's
shooter as the manhunt continues
The suspect being sought in Wednesday's fatal shooting of conservative
commentator Charlie Kirk at a public outdoor event in Utah is believed to
be a college-aged individual with an apparent proficiency in handling a
high-powered rifle and likely knew the layout of the university where the
homicide occurred, according to authorities and a former FBI agent.
During a news conference on Thursday morning, investigators said they
had a series of breakthroughs overnight that make them confident they
will be able to identify and eventually apprehend the person who killed
Kirk with a single shot fired from a rooftop at a substantial distance.
"We are investing everything we have into this and we will catch this
individual," Beau Mason, commissioner of the Utah Department of Public
Safety, said at the news conference.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/charlie-kirks-shooter-manhunt-continues/story?id=125474359
(https://i.imgur.com/B9lTWpE.png)
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There is now a mandate to go after Alex Soros with RICO charges and smash the radical leftist funding networks once and for all.
He's helping Qatar to buy NYC using an astroturf muslim socialist at the moment.
Straight up treason that will completely devastate one of the greatest cities to ever exist.
If the ball doesn't start rolling on this you'll know we've been had.
(https://imgs.search.brave.com/K7tV7Xr97vLR5_rFFI0xrhg3aR5GxGRUvM2GqfslJqI/rs:fit:860:0:0:0/g:ce/aHR0cHM6Ly9tZWRp/YS5nZXR0eWltYWdl/cy5jb20vaWQvMTkz/NjI2OTc5MS9waG90/by9hbGV4LXNvcm9z/LWNoYWlybWFuLW9m/LW9wZW4tc29jaWV0/eS1mb3VuZGF0aW9u/cy1kdXJpbmctYS1w/YW5lbC1zZXNzaW9u/LW9uLXRoZS1jbG9z/aW5nLWRheS1vZi5q/cGc_cz02MTJ4NjEy/Jnc9MCZrPTIwJmM9/b1FzWkpDbXF0eTg5/ZzdfZDJWeGxMN0JC/dm9MUm5iNlNsVFM0/TnE2SHhxRT0)
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I think this is nothing. At 200 yards, if that was the distance and with a 30-06, wind isn't so much a factor that you need people doing that. It's more the elevation you need to factor in. And from what I saw, it wasn't a windy day. Like you don't see the tent blowing over or things like that.
To be fair, I've never shot at 200 yards before. But I did shoot at 100 yards a Ruger Precision Rifle and was able to hit a 3 inch gong like there's no tomorrow. It was so easy with regular 7.62 ammo that I got bored. And hitting a 6 inch gong consistently with an AR15, regualar 223 ammo and a zero power red dot.
So I'm basing my above at double that distance isnt' that bad compared to a 500 yard shot. I could be wrong.
Edit:
I 4got that I did shoot at 200 yrds with my 22. I hit about 6 inches from where my POA was. And for a 22, even at 50 yards, wind can greatly affect it.
With a .30-06, you are not wrong.
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There is now a mandate to go after Alex Soros with RICO charges and smash the radical leftist funding networks once and for all.
He's helping Qatar to buy NYC using an astroturf muslim socialist at the moment.
Straight up treason that will completely devastate one of the greatest cities to ever exist.
If the ball doesn't start rolling on this you'll know we've been had.
(https://imgs.search.brave.com/K7tV7Xr97vLR5_rFFI0xrhg3aR5GxGRUvM2GqfslJqI/rs:fit:860:0:0:0/g:ce/aHR0cHM6Ly9tZWRp/YS5nZXR0eWltYWdl/cy5jb20vaWQvMTkz/NjI2OTc5MS9waG90/by9hbGV4LXNvcm9z/LWNoYWlybWFuLW9m/LW9wZW4tc29jaWV0/eS1mb3VuZGF0aW9u/cy1kdXJpbmctYS1w/YW5lbC1zZXNzaW9u/LW9uLXRoZS1jbG9z/aW5nLWRheS1vZi5q/cGc_cz02MTJ4NjEy/Jnc9MCZrPTIwJmM9/b1FzWkpDbXF0eTg5/ZzdfZDJWeGxMN0JC/dm9MUm5iNlNsVFM0/TnE2SHhxRT0)
Yes, every frickin organized crime / war on terror statute, investigative technique, and unwritten star chamber protocol is now on the table to go after the terror networks & funding of the Democrat party.
… otherwise, you don’t have a country, now do you.
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I’ve seen the pictures of the guy but where’s the gun?
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I’ve seen the pictures of the guy but where’s the gun?
Speculation is the rifle was hidden on the roof or on the way to the roof well ahead of time. Would you have tried to sneak a long gun past security during the event?
Don't expect all the facts to be laid out end to end until at least a week after -- if then. They still have yet to find the shooter.
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the latest video from the recent fbi news conference show him jumping down from the building, but i do not see the long gun
how did it get to the wooded area???
Speculation is the rifle was hidden on the roof or on the way to the roof well ahead of time. Would you have tried to sneak a long gun past security during the event?
Don't expect all the facts to be laid out end to end until at least a week after -- if then. They still have yet to find the shooter.
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the latest video from the recent fbi news conference show him jumping down from the building, but i do not see the long gun
how did it get to the wooded area???
One more time -- i'm waiting until all the facts are in.
"The latest video" is not going to be the last word.
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the latest video from the recent fbi news conference show him jumping down from the building, but i do not see the long gun
how did it get to the wooded area???
If this is the video you are referring to, it looks like the man jumped from the roof with what may be a rifle bag before he walked through the wooded area in which the rifle was found.
https://www.msnbc.com/the-last-word/watch/new-video-of-charlie-kirk-shooting-suspect-escaping-released-by-fbi-and-utah-officials-247428677940
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oh
i see it now
to me it looks like the gun is covered by his jacket...
If this is the video you are referring to, it looks like the man jumped from the roof with what may be a rifle bag before he walked through the wooded area in which the rifle was found.
https://www.msnbc.com/the-last-word/watch/new-video-of-charlie-kirk-shooting-suspect-escaping-released-by-fbi-and-utah-officials-247428677940
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hmm
i think i see it sometimes, but not other times i look at it...
oh
i see it now
to me it looks like the gun is covered by his jacket...
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hmm
i think i see it sometimes, but not other times i look at it...
i assume the "wooded area" is the traffic-circle shaped area across the street he walked next to at the end of the parking lot. i don't see anything else that would be described as wooded.
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Very spry for a brainwashed leftist loser.
Is he back in Israel by now?
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Very spry for a brainwashed leftist loser.
Is he back in Israel by now?
He wasn't assassinated for your amusement. That's one fact I do know.
Yet, here you are.
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He started to speak out against the Israeli influence in our government.
https://youtube.com/shorts/ofrxuWVCH4w?feature=shared
Also Bibi seemed to know about what happened 20 minutes before anyone else despite being on the other side of the planet.
This whole Epstein thing looks even worse now.
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Must be the new trend nowadays:
See something suspicious, video tape it but don't do nothing, say anything, or tell anybody.
If it comes out what you videotaped turned nefarious, then sell it for money to LE.
Same with after the event. If you see the perp, record it but don't do nothing.
Wait until LE puts the word out for public info and input then sell it.
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He started to speak out against the Israeli influence in our government.
https://youtube.com/shorts/ofrxuWVCH4w?feature=shared
Also Bibi seemed to know about what happened 20 minutes before anyone else despite being on the other side of the planet.
This whole Epstein thing looks even worse now.
"Seemed to know/?" Oh, how could anyone argue with such definitive proof?!!
:wacko:
Also, you should rewatch that clip. It's him criticizing Christians for believing Israel can never be criticized because they think it makes one a bad Christian to do so. He then draws the same line between Israel the nation and israel's government, that one can be criticized without including the other -- just like in the US.
He expresses zero sentiment regarding Israel's supposed influence on our government in that clip.
I agree 100% with what he said in that link you posted.
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shooter disposed of the gun in a neighborhood...
i assume the "wooded area" is the traffic-circle shaped area across the street he walked next to at the end of the parking lot. i don't see anything else that would be described as wooded.
(https://i.imgur.com/49H2GgR.png?1)
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I agree 100% with what he said in that link you posted.
And yet every time I bring up the questionable actions of Israel you attack me like a good little soldier.
Why do you feel such a strong urge to defend a foreign government?
Do you not see how weird that is?
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And yet every time I bring up the questionable actions of Israel you attack me like a good little soldier?
Why do you feel such a strong urge to defend a foreign government?
Do you not see how weird that is?
i never attacked you. Words are not violence.
Have the Left brainwashed you into believing otherwise?
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i never attacked you. Words are not violence.
Have the Left brainwashed you into believing otherwise?
Remember when your mom told you not to make an ugly face because it will get stuck that way?
It's the same thing with playing dumb.
We should be able to talk about this stuff, and the fact that it's taboo for some reason means there is something very dark and insidious going on.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/9LzSOJdEEBU
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Quote from: Flapp_Jackson on Today at 08:15:19 PM
i never attacked you. Words are not violence.
Have the Left brainwashed you into believing otherwise?
Remember when your mom told you not to make an ugly face because it will get stuck that way?
It's the same thing with playing dumb.
We should be able to talk about this stuff, and the fact that it's taboo for some reason means there is something very dark and insidious going on.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/9LzSOJdEEBU
Oy vey!
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Great column from Brandon Smith - very worth your time.
Excerpt here, link below:
“We have been engaging in civics while the woke cult engages in sabotage, mob violence, child grooming and assassination. Conservatives are naturally reticent to abandon order or abandon the law. The political left knows this – they count on it. They know we are limited in how we fight back because we have an expectation that the system can be corrected and reformed.
The problem is that the system is infected. It’s infested by parasites. In order for social discourse to achieve anything constructive, both sides have to be patriotic. Both sides have to love their culture and country to a certain degree and want the best for the future. Leftists and globalists HATE the west. They hate the US. They want to turn it to dust. They want the memory of it erased from history. There is no level of reason or diplomacy that can dissolve their bitter psychopathy.
In other words, McCarthy was right. The left needs to go.”
https://alt-market.us/men-of-the-west-we-are-at-war/
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Oy vey!
Indeed. I’m happy to be proven wrong btw. If it’s was just a bunch of commie nut jobs then it would be relatively easy to scoop them up, but if it’s an intelligence agency and our government is infested with turncoats then the solutions are a lot messier.
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Remember when your mom told you not to make an ugly face because it will get stuck that way?
It's the same thing with playing dumb.
We should be able to talk about this stuff, and the fact that it's taboo for some reason means there is something very dark and insidious going on.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/9LzSOJdEEBU
You're making s#!% up still.
You never met my mother. if you had, maybe you'd be a little wiser than you sound. My mother encouraged kids to be kids. She knew we were too smart to believe the "it'll get stuck that way" lie.
But, since you have nothing substantive on the actual topic to say, here you are dragging another thread off track.
https://youtu.be/7sYHmnbjvGQ?t=26
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Indeed. I’m happy to be proven wrong btw. If it’s was just a bunch of commie nut jobs then it would be relatively easy to scoop them up, but if it’s an intelligence agency and our government is infested with turncoats then the solutions are a lot messier.
Yep. We’ve been on a battlefield for a long long time, but not thought that way.
Not considering plausible enemy configurations and objectives just makes you easy to kill.
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Anyone here make bumper stickers? I would like some made WeAreCharlieKirk. I'd buy a dozen.
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Anyone here make bumper stickers? I would like some made WeAreCharlieKirk. I'd buy a dozen.
WeAreCharlieKirk!
Exactly.
This guy personified civil, principled, honest opposition to the Marxists - he was going the statesman route, not throwing bombs, but looking for converts. He died working to get converts to civility among college kids.
And they executed him as he sat there, just himself, out in the open, facing them.
When they martyred him, they martyred all these things, and these ideals are really American ideals - they are the ideals of everyone in this country EXCEPT these venomous traitors.
So, there is no question that righteous rage will only build over time at this atrocity. You can already see it and feel it.
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You're making s#!% up still.
You never met my mother.
My mistake, I thought you were just pretending.
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There is some good news and some bad news depending on how you look at it.
A lot of the radical leftists who are currently howling for more conservatives to be assassinated are about to loose their taxpayer funding.
The bad news is we will have a major security issue with thousands of homeless homicidal libs scurrying about.
Trump should follow this up by pressuring congress to enact nation wide concealed carry reciprocity.
It’s not like the rest of us can afford to hire private security until they all die off.
https://youtu.be/FmY1JVtFfhc
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I’ve never met the guy. I used to love watching a lot of his videos but over time it got boring watching him demolish dumb liberals so I stopped watching.
I’m not sure why his death affects me so much. Maybe it’s because like him, I’m also a father of young ones and a husband. I am not religious but I prayed last night, awkwardly I admit because I’d never really done it before. Something about this tragedy feels different. I definitely hugged my family a little longer and tighter before leaving for work this morning.
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6am Friday
News reports killer is arrested.
Tyler Robinson.
That was fast
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6am Friday
News reports killer is arrested.
Tyler Robinson.
That was fast
Yes looks like the cartoon is real.
Demonic Antifa Youth
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G0phJV0XoAICOXS?format=jpg&name=large)
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I’ve never met the guy. I used to love watching a lot of his videos but over time it got boring watching him demolish dumb liberals so I stopped watching.
I’m not sure why his death affects me so much. Maybe it’s because like him, I’m also a father of young ones and a husband. I am not religious but I prayed last night, awkwardly I admit because I’d never really done it before. Something about this tragedy feels different. I definitely hugged my family a little longer and tighter before leaving for work this morning.
You’re right, something has changed.
Humanity can no longer hang on to the hope that this will somehow go away or get better.
When kids, literally kids, become programmed assassins, by a viscous demonic ideology - that’s a degree of evil not often seen on earth, and it’s either you and your beautiful family, or … it. The two cannot coexist on the same plane.
That’s what’s changed, and you are feeling exactly the way you should.
All the best to you and yours brother.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCedcT2X6Tg
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Looking at these kids, and the perfect monsters they have been fashioned into, reminds me of the Hitler Youth.
Fascists and Communists ALWAYS seek to indoctrinate the youth - that’s how you build a future society of monsters.
This is EXACTLY what this evil has been accomplishing in our country.
The proof is standing there, in front of the entire country. They are ALL the same …..
This evil must be ripped out of our country by its bloody roots, and incinerated.
How much more evidence is needed here?
None. Game over.
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I’ve never met the guy. I used to love watching a lot of his videos but over time it got boring watching him demolish dumb liberals so I stopped watching.
I’m not sure why his death affects me so much. Maybe it’s because like him, I’m also a father of young ones and a husband. I am not religious but I prayed last night, awkwardly I admit because I’d never really done it before. Something about this tragedy feels different. I definitely hugged my family a little longer and tighter before leaving for work this morning.
He's not a politician or dresses like he has money. He's a regular guy like the people. So he's relatable. He cares about others, like how he often thinks it's important for college grads to be able to buy a home. It's not all about himself.
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I find it interesting that people are getting fired over the support of his murder. This didn't happen as much when Trump's life was attempted to be ended.
1 Maui PD is on desk duty pending investigation over his FB post about Kirk.
I've also seen many on FB who don't post political stuff, now post loving support for his family and ideals. It seems like this event caused "closet conservatives" to come out.
The left is also trying to play the game and saying why no outrage over Melissa Hortons death and her husbands death. I look at it this way, it was strictly about abortion, not a political party thing directly. Even if a GOP senator supported the bill, they too would have been on his hit list. Then add in why didn't the fake news promote the story much more? SO even they thought it must have had not as much weight compared to Kirk.
I have 1 friend who was on the fence about taking up faith and this pushed him to commit. He is now looking for a church.
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He's not a politician or dresses like he has money. He's a regular guy like the people. So he's relatable. He cares about others, like how he often thinks it's important for college grads to be able to buy a home. It's not all about himself.
His biggest achievement, and the one that terrified so many leftists, is how well Charlie connected with younger audiences -- primarily at college campuses.
He allowed anyone who was willing to ask him questions or state their opinions to hold the mic at his events. You could tell he was listening as much as speaking. When someone made a very good point that questioned what he was saying, he would tell them that. He understood that he's not there to lecture. He's there to open the dialogue which most campuses don't allow. if you write a paper or give an opinion that opposes your professors, you can almost guarantee the grade you get will not be fair.
He was also someone who avoided college, yet he'd read more college texts that are required reading in most schools on politics, economics, biology, trans issues, etc. than the students who had already taken those classes. He proved that you don't need grants and loans to spend 4 years being spoon-fed information. if you really want to learn, there's nothing stopping you from finding that information -- on all sides of the issues -- available publicly or through Amazon. Colleges do not have a monopoly on higher education. You can work and learn for those same 4 years, be better educated, have 4 years of work experience, and not have $50K-$200K in student loans when you graduate.
He was a purveyor of common sense, something the Left believes they employ when protesting Conservative events on campus. If you're afraid of others' ideas, then maybe your ideas need to be reexamined?
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his dream school was west point, he didn't get in, so at 18 he decided to start turning point usa...
His biggest achievement, and the one that terrified so many leftists, is how well Charlie connected with younger audiences -- primarily at college campuses.
He allowed anyone who was willing to ask him questions or state their opinions to hold the mic at his events. You could tell he was listening as much as speaking. When someone made a very good point that questioned what he was saying, he would tell them that. He understood that he's not there to lecture. He's there to open the dialogue which most campuses don't allow. if you write a paper or give an opinion that opposes your professors, you can almost guarantee the grade you get will not be fair.
He was also someone who avoided college, yet he'd read more college texts that are required reading in most schools on politics, economics, biology, trans issues, etc. than the students who had already taken those classes. He proved that you don't need grants and loans to spend 4 years being spoon-fed information. if you really want to learn, there's nothing stopping you from finding that information -- on all sides of the issues -- available publicly or through Amazon. Colleges do not have a monopoly on higher education. You can work and learn for those same 4 years, be better educated, have 4 years of work experience, and not have $50K-$200K in student loans when you graduate.
He was a purveyor of common sense, something the Left believes they employ when protesting Conservative events on campus. If you're afraid of others' ideas, then maybe your ideas need to be reexamined?
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Portrait of a Fascist
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Alice Cooper Leaks Heartbreakiпg Fiпal Text Messages From Charlie Kirk Before the 31-Year-Old Activist Was Assassiпated
https://daily.feji.io/posts/alice-cooper-leaks-heartbreaking-final-text-messages-charlie-kirk-activist-assassinated-geng-thtram123
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I have 1 friend who was on the fence about taking up faith and this pushed him to commit. He is now looking for a church.
Find one without the rainbows in it. That means it's been infected.
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I think this is nothing. At 200 yards, if that was the distance and with a 30-06, wind isn't so much a factor that you need people doing that. It's more the elevation you need to factor in. And from what I saw, it wasn't a windy day. Like you don't see the tent blowing over or things like that.
To be fair, I've never shot at 200 yards before. But I did shoot at 100 yards a Ruger Precision Rifle and was able to hit a 3 inch gong like there's no tomorrow. It was so easy with regular 7.62 ammo that I got bored. And hitting a 6 inch gong consistently with an AR15, regualar 223 ammo and a zero power red dot.
So I'm basing my above at double that distance isnt' that bad compared to a 500 yard shot. I could be wrong.
With a .30-06, you are not wrong.
30.06 with 180gr Sierra Matchking with 100 yd zero has a bullet drop of 3.82" . Temple poa + 3-3/4'' drop puts poi in neck
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Find one without the rainbows in it. That means it's been infected.
Actually, the ones with rainbows are more properly called “Covens.”
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these clickbait websites sometimes make stuff up...
Alice Cooper Leaks Heartbreakiпg Fiпal Text Messages From Charlie Kirk Before the 31-Year-Old Activist Was Assassiпated
https://daily.feji.io/posts/alice-cooper-leaks-heartbreaking-final-text-messages-charlie-kirk-activist-assassinated-geng-thtram123
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OK, Tin Foil Hat time.
If Mr. Kirk was shot in the right side of the neck and projectile exited left side of neck, why does all of the info/graphics put shooter pretty much directly in front of Mr. Kirk ?
Mauser Model 98 .30-06 caliber bolt action rifle is 44.9" long (Magnum 46.65" ).
Is there any evidence shooter had access to Mauser Model 98 .30-06 caliber bolt action rifle ?
I personally do not see the presence of a rifle on shooter after assassination and there is no evidence (visual or testimony) that alleged shooter was ever seen with a long gun
There was mention of a screwdriver present perhaps to assemble the alleged rifle pre shot but shooter would not have had the time to disassemble rifle post shot.
So in true TFH fashion, I propose the following . .
Charlie Kirk was shot by someone on his right side, not from a forward position.
Real shooter then left with rifle and stashed it in the woods upon a predetermined path that "alleged shooter would take".
Alleged shooter takes the fall but is proven innocent due to forensics
Alleged shooter was a pazi.
Besides, alleged shooter only has 2 names, but lone assassins always have three.
John Wilkes Booth,
Lee Harvey Oswald,
Mark David Chapman,
Thomas Matthew Crooks.
:popcorn:
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these clickbait websites sometimes make stuff up...
Say it ain't so ! :'(
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Besides, alleged shooter only has 2 names, but lone assassins always have three.
John Wilkes Booth,
Lee Harvey Oswald,
Mark David Chapman,
Thomas Matthew Crooks.
:popcorn:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHjFxJVeCQs
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I think this is nothing. At 200 yards, if that was the distance and with a 30-06, wind isn't so much a factor that you need people doing that. It's more the elevation you need to factor in. And from what I saw, it wasn't a windy day. Like you don't see the tent blowing over or things like that.
To be fair, I've never shot at 200 yards before. But I did shoot at 100 yards a Ruger Precision Rifle and was able to hit a 3 inch gong like there's no tomorrow. It was so easy with regular 7.62 ammo that I got bored. And hitting a 6 inch gong consistently with an AR15, regualar 223 ammo and a zero power red dot.
So I'm basing my above at double that distance isnt' that bad compared to a 500 yard shot. I could be wrong.
30.06 with 180gr Sierra Matchking with 100 yd zero has a bullet drop of 3.82" . Temple poa + 3-3/4'' drop puts poi in neck
Rework it for 150 yards or less and with a scope. Those are the factors reported so far.
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Rework it for 150 yards or less and with a scope. Those are the factors reported so far.
Yes - this is correct, LE diagrams show approx. 140 yards. Not much drop at all with a .30-06 at that range.
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OK, Tin Foil Hat time.
If Mr. Kirk was shot in the right side of the neck and projectile exited left side of neck, why does all of the info/graphics put shooter pretty much directly in front of Mr. Kirk ?
Sorry, but from the horrendous up close video (shot from in front, slightly to his right side), looks like entry & exit was on the left side of his neck, consistent with assassin firing from the left front elevation, which seems to match the location indicated on the rooftop. He also spasms to his left and goes down. If left side entry at downward angle, it seems the bullet may have also hit his shoulder blade on exit (sorry this is firkin gruesome).
So I'm wondering where did the info he was shot (entry wound) on the right side of his neck come from? - Thanks
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OK, Tin Foil Hat time.
I personally do not see the presence of a rifle on shooter after assassination and there is no evidence (visual or testimony) that alleged shooter was ever seen with a long gun
There was mention of a screwdriver present perhaps to a
The video I posted in the MSNBC video clearly shows the shooter climbing and jumping down from the roof while he held something large enough to be a rifle. It looked like it could have been a jacket or gun bag covering it, but we now know from the press conference the gun was found wrapped in a towel which is consistent with the way the object appeared.
Due to the low resolution of the video, it's difficult to see the exact shape, so we'll have to be happy with consistency.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/know-charlie-kirks-assassination-rcna230552
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Rework it for 150 yards or less and with a scope. Those are the factors reported so far.
My point was bullet drop if zeroed at 100 yds for novice (not sniper/hunter) not taking into account the drop.
4" off center on a pressure shoot for novice is not unreasonable as I assume he was going for the headshot
Anywho with the same load info (180gr)
130 yds = -0.55"
140 yds = -0.85
150 yds = -1.20"
170 yds = -2.07"
190 yds = 3.18"
via https://shooterscalculator.com
For you purist, Hornady has higher values with 180gr CX
-0.7" at 130 yds
-1.4" at 150 yds
-3.0'' at 180 yds
Don't think the scope has anything to do with ballistic trajectory. :rofl:
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The video I posted in the MSNBC video clearly shows the shooter climbing and jumping down from the roof while he held something large enough to be a rifle. It looked like it could have been a jacket or gun bag covering it, but we now know from the press conference the gun was found wrapped in a towel which is consistent with the way the object appeared.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/know-charlie-kirks-assassination-rcna230552
WHICH IS IT "video clearly shows" OR low resolution video ?
"could have been a jacket or gun bag covering it" OR "found wrapped in a towel"
Did he jump with it wrapped in his jacket, a gun bag or towel ?
I mean it's at least 44" long and over 8 lbs
I saw him jump with a backpack and flee with same.
YOUR LINK ABOVE SHOWS "Site of shooting" DISTANCE BETWEEN SHOOTER AND MR. KIRK TO BE APPROXIMATELY 520 FEET a.k.a. 173.3333 yds
"so we'll have to be happy with consistency."
WHAT CONSISTENCY ?
The left has consistently been telling us Trump is a fascist , racist, homophobic, mysogynist dictator for years and I'm still not happy. :grrr:
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I have no idea how this post came about quoting me, I did not write it
I think this is nothing. At 200 yards, if that was the distance and with a 30-06, wind isn't so much a factor that you need people doing that. It's more the elevation you need to factor in. And from what I saw, it wasn't a windy day. Like you don't see the tent blowing over or things like that.
To be fair, I've never shot at 200 yards before. But I did shoot at 100 yards a Ruger Precision Rifle and was able to hit a 3 inch gong like there's no tomorrow. It was so easy with regular 7.62 ammo that I got bored. And hitting a 6 inch gong consistently with an AR15, regualar 223 ammo and a zero power red dot.
So I'm basing my above at double that distance isnt' that bad compared to a 500 yard shot. I could be wrong.
30.06 with 180gr Sierra Matchking with 100 yd zero has a bullet drop of 3.82" . Temple poa + 3-3/4'' drop puts poi in neck
What I did post was "30.06 with 180gr Sierra Matchking with 100 yd zero has a bullet drop of 3.82" . Temple poa + 3-3/4'' drop puts poi in neck"
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WHICH IS IT "video clearly shows" OR low resolution video ?
The two are not mutually exclusive. For example, there is a video of a cop taking down a weapon-wielding attacker who has what clearly is a blade of some kind. Only through the description of the video can we tell it's a machete. I thought you'd be smarter than this.
"could have been a jacket or gun bag covering it" OR "found wrapped in a towel"
Did he jump with it wrapped in his jacket, a gun bag or towel ?
I mean it's at least 44" long and over 8 lbs
I saw him jump with a backpack and flee with same.
You must not have watched the video I did. He didn't have a backpack in his hands as he climbed down from the roof.
YOUR LINK ABOVE SHOWS "Site of shooting" DISTANCE BETWEEN SHOOTER AND MR. KIRK TO BE APPROXIMATELY 520 FEET a.k.a. 173.3333 yds
So? The final facts have yet to be released. All we have now are preliminary reports and estimates. You really ought to wait a few more days before jumping into the tin foil regurgitator.
"so we'll have to be happy with consistency."
WHAT CONSISTENCY ?
What i said, That he had the rifle as he climbed down wrapped in something, he carried across the grass and sidewalk, and it was found in trees wrapped in a towel. Surely you know how deductive reasoning works? The video tracked his movements and that he was carrying something that looked large enough to be the rifle.
The left has consistently been telling us Trump is a fascist , racist, homophobic, mysogynist dictator for years and I'm still not happy. :grrr:
And they have also consistently been unable to provide evidence of those allegations. Anyone with 2 brain cells to rub together understands consistency isn't the same as proof. I never said the videos proved anything -- only that they are consistent with the recent accounts of what was witness and the facts so far.
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I have no idea how this post came about quoting me, I did not write it
What I did post was "30.06 with 180gr Sierra Matchking with 100 yd zero has a bullet drop of 3.82" . Temple poa + 3-3/4'' drop puts poi in neck"
I figured that out. I was reading it and was like "I said the same thing". Only to realize like half way though that it was my writing.
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My point was bullet drop if zeroed at 100 yds for novice (not sniper/hunter) not taking into account the drop.
4" off center on a pressure shoot for novice is not unreasonable as I assume he was going for the headshot
Anywho with the same load info (180gr)
130 yds = -0.55"
140 yds = -0.85
150 yds = -1.20"
170 yds = -2.07"
190 yds = 3.18"
via https://shooterscalculator.com
For you purist, Hornady has higher values with 180gr CX
-0.7" at 130 yds
-1.4" at 150 yds
-3.0'' at 180 yds
Don't think the scope has anything to do with ballistic trajectory. :rofl:
Kirk was hit in the neck. Most assassins would probably go for a head shot (based on no actual facts in this case -- just conjecture). So, was the shot low? Or was he going for the heart and wound up impacting high? Was he really aiming for the neck? If so, he much have been an outstanding marksman to go for the smallest area of the torso and head.
You're analyzing something for which you don't have the critical data. Any conclusions you derive are purely guesswork.
The scope could have a bullet drop reticle, which would give him the amount of drop to correct for given the distance at which it was zeroed and the distance to target. Or maybe he never measured the yardage to target and got the whole thing wrong, meaning the shot was pure luck.
Take a breath. i think you're wanting more answers than are available to the public now, and it's eating at you.
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I find it odd that he would spend time jumping down with the rifle, only to toss it in the bushes. Why not just leave it? Esp since he had writing on the brass, that shows his intent was for police to find it. It could be possible that he was going to take it with him and dump it much far away, but someone saw him so he had to dump it there.
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I find it odd that he would spend time jumping down with the rifle, only to toss it in the bushes. Why not just leave it? Esp since he had writing on the brass, that shows his intent was for police to find it. It could be possible that he was going to take it with him and dump it much far away, but someone saw him so he had to dump it there.
He's not talking to investigators. if he does decide to talk, then you can possibly find out what his thoughts were in that moment.
They say people who commit their first murder make 100 mistakes, and you're lucky if you remember 10 of them.
One of the first rules of a firearm crime is "Don't get caught with the weapon." That firearm directly links you to the crime. Maybe his intent was to leave it at the scene, but then he wondered what he'd do if caught? Did he keep it in order to kill himself if cornered? Maybe the gun can be traced to him or a friend. All the engravings MAY have been so the public could see them, or maybe it was his version of war paint -- getting ready to go into battle with messages meant to give him courage?
This "what if" game could go on and on. :popcorn:
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I find it odd that he would spend time jumping down with the rifle, only to toss it in the bushes. Why not just leave it? Esp since he had writing on the brass, that shows his intent was for police to find it. It could be possible that he was going to take it with him and dump it much far away, but someone saw him so he had to dump it there.
… or he’s just a kid.
A demonically obsessed or possessed kid.
That’s what I mean when I say cartoonish.
I mean - if the reports are true - it is the same pattern, right down to writing messages on cartridges, etc., like Mangione, like the Catholic kid killer, and this thing.
All assassins of innocents, all basically kids ….
I.e. bots from hell
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WHICH IS IT "video clearly shows" OR low resolution video ?
The two are not mutually exclusive. For example, there is a video of a cop taking down a weapon-wielding attacker who has what clearly is a blade of some kind. Only through the description of the video can we tell it's a machete. I thought you'd be smarter than this.
There was no rifle clearly visible nor was there a description of a rifle in the video so your comparison is moot.
"could have been a jacket or gun bag covering it" OR "found wrapped in a towel"
Did he jump with it wrapped in his jacket, a gun bag or towel ?
I mean it's at least 44" long and over 8 lbs
I saw him jump with a backpack and flee with same.
You must not have watched the video I did. He didn't have a backpack in his hands as he climbed down from the roof.
YOUR LINK ABOVE SHOWS "Site of shooting" DISTANCE BETWEEN SHOOTER AND MR. KIRK TO BE APPROXIMATELY 520 FEET a.k.a. 173.3333 yds
So? The final facts have yet to be released. All we have now are preliminary reports and estimates. You really ought to wait a few more days before jumping into the tin foil regurgitator.
"so we'll have to be happy with consistency."
WHAT CONSISTENCY ?
What i said, That he had the rifle as he climbed down wrapped in something, he carried across the grass and sidewalk, and it was found in trees wrapped in a towel. Surely you know how deductive reasoning works? The video tracked his movements and that he was carrying something that looked large enough to be the rifle.
How do you know he had the rifle if it was wrapped in something ? Did you actually SEE the rifle ? "something that looked large enough to be the rifle." is not necessarily a rifle. I could not discern him with an object 44" long
The left has consistently been telling us Trump is a fascist , racist, homophobic, misogynist dictator for years and I'm still not happy. :grrr:
And they have also consistently been unable to provide evidence of those allegations. Anyone with 2 brain cells to rub together understands consistency isn't the same as proof. I never said the videos proved anything -- only that they are consistent with the recent accounts of what was witness and the facts so far.
Please re-read your comments like . . .
''I thought you'd be smarter than this.''
'' jumping into the tin foil regurgitator.''
''Surely you know how deductive reasoning works?''
''Anyone with 2 brain cells to rub together understands''
My first statement in my op was "OK, Tin Foil Hat time." ending with popcorn.
I thought that would sum it up.
Was just trying to have an open dialogue, "Prove me wrong". :thumbsup:
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Please re-read your comments like . . .
''I thought you'd be smarter than this.''
'' jumping into the tin foil regurgitator.''
''Surely you know how deductive reasoning works?''
''Anyone with 2 brain cells to rub together understands''
My first statement in my op was "OK, Tin Foil Hat time." ending with popcorn.
I thought that would sum it up.
Was just trying to have an open dialogue, "Prove me wrong". :thumbsup:
You express yourself well.
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I found this video that weighs in on the ballistic impact component of his murder. I feel like this one is worth sharing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6zPjo5Vogc
Apparently Charlie was wearing thin body armor under his white tshirt. This video suggests he died of a ballistic ricochet to the neck from the top edge of his armor plate rather than a direct neck-shot.
That would explain why I never noticed an exit wound.
So the @$$h0l3 missed but got lucky.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSpmMcyp5Dc
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I saw the vids before he took his chair, it didn't look like he was wearing soft armor. You can see his tits/nipples as he's tossing hats.
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Sometimes our enthusiasm for our sport / hobby can overshadow what is really important.
The gun has been found. The caliber, color, type of gun that was used is not important. Charlie is gone. His children don't have a dad and his wife is alone.
What is important is defending his name and moving forward with his messages. There are sick people still mocking Charlie AND his family. They really are sick.
They kneeled for a criminal and they smeared, disrespected a great human being.
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Don't let them erase Charlie.
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#nokumbaya
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Sometimes our enthusiasm for our sport / hobby can overshadow what is really important.
The gun has been found. The caliber, color, type of gun that was used is not important. Charlie is gone. His children don't have a dad and his wife is alone.
What is important is defending his name and moving forward with his messages. There are sick people still mocking Charlie AND his family. They really are sick.
They kneeled for a criminal and they smeared, disrespected a great human being.
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Don't let them erase Charlie.
No worry.
Charlie Kirk is the beginning of the end for them.
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Please re-read your comments like . . .
''I thought you'd be smarter than this.''
'' jumping into the tin foil regurgitator.''
''Surely you know how deductive reasoning works?''
''Anyone with 2 brain cells to rub together understands''
My first statement in my op was "OK, Tin Foil Hat time." ending with popcorn.
I thought that would sum it up.
Was just trying to have an open dialogue, "Prove me wrong". :thumbsup:
Were you really offended by my comments?
You're posting things you admit are tin foil wrapped, so why can't i shoot them down in my own way?
Open dialogue means you have to be open to opposing viewpoints and criticisms of your own. sorry if it's sprinkled with a little bit of spice. Maybe post unfounded or false comments on what might have happened in a different thread and leave this one for more fact-based posts? Just a thought.
:shaka:
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Interesting interview with Alex Jones on Bannon today. He expects a false flag terrorist attack designed to frame the extreme right. Obama and Soros know they are going to prison so they have nothing left to lose. Civil War is the only play they have left, and they want to play out the script on his Netflix show.
Don’t know if anyone else is ready to process this yet, but he was right about the gay frogs.
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Interesting interview with Alex Jones on Bannon today. He expects a false flag terrorist attack designed to frame the extreme right. Obama and Soros know they are going to prison so they have nothing left to lose. Civil War is the only play they have left, and they want to play out the script on his Netflix show.
Don’t know if anyone else is ready to process this yet, but he was right about the gay frogs.
French people who are gay?
What are the odds? :rofl: :geekdanc:
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More suspicious coincidences regarding Israel.
Charlie was breaking up with Bibi.
Ben Shapiro is acting really brave by picking up the torch (and siphoning off Charlie’s audience) after their little dust up just a few days ago but something tells me he doesn’t have much to worry about.
https://open.substack.com/pub/thegrayzone/p/charlie-kirk-refused-netanyahu-funding
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More suspicious coincidences regarding Israel.
Charlie was breaking up with Bibi.
Ben Shapiro is acting really brave by picking up the torch (and siphoning off Charlie’s audience) after their little dust up just a few days ago but something tells me he doesn’t have much to worry about.
https://open.substack.com/pub/thegrayzone/p/charlie-kirk-refused-netanyahu-funding
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No, thanks. There's enough BS on here without helping the click-bait publishers spread more.
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Interesting interview with Alex Jones on Bannon today. He expects a false flag terrorist attack designed to frame the extreme right. Obama and Soros know they are going to prison so they have nothing left to lose. Civil War is the only play they have left, and they want to play out the script on his Netflix show.
Don’t know if anyone else is ready to process this yet, but he was right about the gay frogs.
Totally plausible, and nothing is beyond them, but to this point, after years of corruption, outright treason, and race wars, all they’ve succeeded in doing is alienating and enraging ever increasing segments of our society - including parts of their own base.
Only their orcs will embrace it - the whole rest of the country views them as the existential threat that they are, and nothing will change that now.
Their circle of influence and control is outright collapsing in real time in front of us.
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Totally plausible, and nothing is beyond them, but to this point, after years of corruption, outright treason, and race wars, all they’ve succeeded in doing is alienating and enraging ever increasing segments of our society - including parts of their own base.
Only their orcs will embrace it - the whole rest of the country views them as the existential threat that they are, and nothing will change that now.
Their circle of influence and control is outright collapsing in real time in front of us.
I hope so. As Flapp would be more than happy to point out I'm no expert, but it almost seems like someone is funding both sides of a civil war here.
It's difficult to understand how Israel would profit from that since it would bankrupt us and without our money they are toast.
Maybe they have gone completely nuts. I guess you kind of have to be to sacrifice your own people in order to justify a genocide.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/key-idf-officer-reportedly-voiced-concern-about-nova-festival-but-was-told-to-ok-it/
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I hope so. As Flapp would be more than happy to point out I'm no expert, but it almost seems like someone is funding both sides of a civil war here.
It's difficult to understand how Israel would profit from that since it would bankrupt us and without our money they are toast.
Maybe they have gone completely nuts. I guess you kind of have to be to sacrifice your own people in order to justify a genocide.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/key-idf-officer-reportedly-voiced-concern-about-nova-festival-but-was-told-to-ok-it/
Yes, for anyone who believes today’s Israelis are still the guys wearing white hats (no snark intended), reflect on this - which has really troubled me:
How can a military intelligence power that can so thoroughly infiltrate its enemy that it can manufacture and accurately distribute - via the enemy’s own command and control structure - explosive pagers to literally hundreds of Hezbollah operatives in Lebanon and beyond, to simultaneously kill and gravely wound most of them, at their whim …
but,
… which claims it was caught completely off guard - for hours - by a large-scale invasion from Gaza by Hamas, across a heavily surveilled frontier, such that thousands were slain and captured before there was an effective counter offensive?
Things in this world just don’t get more obviously implausible, period. Deeply troubling.
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I hope so. As Flapp would be more than happy to point out I'm no expert, but it almost seems like someone is funding both sides of a civil war here.
It's difficult to understand how Israel would profit from that since it would bankrupt us and without our money they are toast.
Maybe they have gone completely nuts. I guess you kind of have to be to sacrifice your own people in order to justify a genocide.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/key-idf-officer-reportedly-voiced-concern-about-nova-festival-but-was-told-to-ok-it/
Is "voiced concern" the same as "possessed actionable intel?"
Just more click bait.
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The FBI briefing today was awful. It seems like they are going to pin it on this kid and let everyone else go even though it was obviously highly coordinated. Kash gives no details except to give everyone a congratulatory circle jerk and spike the football even though the suspect turned himself in. Then they let a woke governor drone on about healing the divide etc.
They nailed people to the wall who weren’t even at J6 but can’t even declare Antifa a terrorist organization?
No wonder Kash always has hostage face whenever he makes a public appearance now.
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The FBI briefing today was awful. It seems like they are going to pin it on this kid and let everyone else go even though it was obviously highly coordinated. Kash gives no details except to give everyone a congratulatory circle jerk and spike the football even though the suspect turned himself in. Then they let a woke governor drone on about healing the divide etc.
They nailed people to the wall who weren’t even at J6 but can’t even declare Antifa a terrorist organization?
No wonder Kash always has hostage face whenever he makes a public appearance now.
Two officials confirmed the suspected shooter was turned in by a family
member who saw photos released Thursday by the FBI.
Seems like a win for the FBI.
Highly coordinated? Where's that evidence?
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Seems like a win for the FBI.
Highly coordinated? Where's that evidence?
Who talks to themselves on a Discord server?
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The FBI briefing today was awful. It seems like they are going to pin it on this kid and let everyone else go even though it was obviously highly coordinated. Kash gives no details except to give everyone a congratulatory circle jerk and spike the football even though the suspect turned himself in. Then they let a woke governor drone on about healing the divide etc.
They nailed people to the wall who weren’t even at J6 but can’t even declare Antifa a terrorist organization?
No wonder Kash always has hostage face whenever he makes a public appearance now.
Hopefully Trump’s apparent rage at this is a more accurate predictor of where this is going than is the poodle show they put on today.
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Hopefully Trump’s apparent rage at this is a more accurate predictor of where this is going than is the poodle show they put on today.
Tulsi is the only one I have hope for anymore.
Notice how this all went down not long after she submitted evidence to DOJ prosecute Obama for treason?
Still waiting DOJ…
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Check out Ben’s reaction to the fact that Charlie would dare to ask such a question around 10:15
Judging by the comments I don’t think his new Charlie replacement speaking tour is going to go the way he thinks it’s going to go.
https://youtu.be/Gt4rRPkyjVY
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Discord denied that the messages were on their servers.
Within 24 hours Bibi does a whirlwind podcast tour denying involvement.
It looks like the patsy is just a soft spoken conservative kid from Utah.
Hopefully someone has the balls to blow the whistle before Jack Ruby shows up.
https://open.substack.com/pub/councilestatemedia/p/nothing-about-charlie-kirks-alleged
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Who talks to themselves on a Discord server?
Why do you have to answer questions with questions?
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Discord denied that the messages were on their servers.
Within 24 hours Bibi does a whirlwind podcast tour denying involvement.
It looks like the patsy is just a soft spoken conservative kid from Utah.
Hopefully someone has the balls to blow the whistle before Jack Ruby shows up.
https://open.substack.com/pub/councilestatemedia/p/nothing-about-charlie-kirks-alleged
So, your source is a podcast called Socialist Voices?
You need to start hanging out with fewer socialists / liberals / leftists / progressives.
But i can see how you were attracted to it:
Readings of articles from Dystopian Times and Anti-imperialist Nexus.
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Why do you have to answer questions with questions?
I'm trying to get you to think for yourself. That's what Charlie was all about, and apparently it's also the reason he was assassinated.
Now they are saying the suspect was dating a trans. Interesting how we are being spoon fed this information precisely timed to keep the back-and-forth rage at maximum pitch.
Someone is trying to sew chaos and start a civil war, and it's difficult to tell if it's multiple competing parties or all coming from the same place.
On one side there are the Palestine-supporting perverted eco communists, and on the other are the Zionist Palantir tech bros fighting for control of the Deep State.
They both want to lock us in a social credit crypto digital prison, and accomplishing that requires spreading suffering so bad that we beg for the safety of a New World Order.
That means it's more important than ever to follow the Charlie Kirk example and reach out to those who might disagree with our policies but are also disgusted by manufactured evil currently on display.
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Here is a pic of the furry living with the assassin:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15095195/tyler-robinson-roommate-text-messages-cops-arrest-utah.html
(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2025/09/13/21/102110513-15095195-Lance_Twiggs_who_lived_with_Tyler_Robinson_in_a_three_bedroom_ap-a-25_1757795845923.jpg)
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I'm trying to get you to think for yourself. That's what Charlie was all about, and apparently it's also the reason he was assassinated.
Now they are saying the suspect was dating a trans. Interesting how we are being spoon fed this information precisely timed to keep the back-and-forth rage at maximum pitch.
Someone is trying to sew chaos and start a civil war, and it's difficult to tell if it's multiple competing parties or all coming from the same place.
On one side there are the Palestine-supporting perverted eco communists, and on the other are the Zionist Palantir tech bros fighting for control of the Deep State.
They both want to lock us in a social credit crypto digital prison, and accomplishing that requires spreading suffering so bad that we beg for the safety of a New World Order.
That means it's more important than ever to follow the Charlie Kirk example and reach out to those who might disagree with our policies but are also disgusted by manufactured evil currently on display.
Who is "they?"
"Trying to get me to think for myself? So says the guy who spends his day on subreddits and substacks from Socialists and far-left-leaning Progressives, most with a low score on accurate facts and news reports -- relaying rumors from "they."
Seems like you are only posting info that feeds your agenda -- to prove nothing is ever what it seems.
Sometimes a crazy person killing a public figure is just that.
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Here is a pic of the furry living with the assassin:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15095195/tyler-robinson-roommate-text-messages-cops-arrest-utah.html
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I’m sure you all have picked this info up, but Daily Mail seems all over this.
There ARE Discord groups he was communicating with, which he was on after the assassination.
He was joking about what he did.
He has the furry partner above and was cohabitating, etc.
He is just another freak bot from hell, courtesy of the Democrat party - a card carrying member of their equivalent of the Hitler youth.
After a fair trial, he should be executed with the rifle he used to brutally assassinate Charlie Kirk.
The cartridge he engraved with
“Hey fascist! Catch!” - because in this case the actual fascist (and deviant) will be doing the catching,
Should be chambered for the execution.
It should be televised live, coast to coast.
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I’m sure you all have picked this info up, but Daily Mail seems all over this.
There ARE Discord groups he was communicating with, which he was on after the assassination.
He was joking about what he did.
He has the furry partner above and was cohabitating, etc.
He is just another freak bot from hell, courtesy of the Democrat party - a card carrying member of their equivalent of the Hitler youth.
After a fair trial, he should be executed with the rifle he used to brutally assassinate Charlie Kirk.
The cartridge he engraved with
“Hey fascist! Catch!” - because in this case the actual fascist (and deviant) will be doing the catching,
Should be chambered for the execution.
It should be televised live, coast to coast.
It should be televised live, coast to coast.
Damn! Televised? Coast-to-coast? You really did grow up in the 60s! in this century, it would be "live streamed."
:shaka: :geekdanc:
BTW, I was born in 61, so we aren't too far apart.
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There ARE Discord groups he was communicating with, which he was on after the assassination.
He was joking about what he did.
Discord confirmed he was on a server, but they denied that he did any plotting on it like the FBI said. Someone is lying.
When you read the actual transcript it sounds like a couple goofballs joking around.
There's absolutely nothing incriminating about that conversation, and the insinuations that the Daily Mail are making are the absolute worst sort of tabloid trash.
He sounds like a happy gay kid who is relieved to be out on his own, not some twisted murderer with a chip on his shoulder.
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Discord confirmed he was on a server, but they denied that he did any plotting on it like the FBI said. Someone is lying.
When you read the actual transcript it sounds like a couple goofballs joking around.
There's absolutely nothing incriminating about that conversation, and the insinuations that the Daily Mail are making are the absolute worst sort of tabloid trash.
He sounds like a happy gay kid who is relieved to be out on his own, not some twisted murderer with a chip on his shoulder.
Did you read the bit about him wanting a cut of the reward money?
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It should be televised live, coast to coast.
Damn! Televised? Coast-to-coast? You really did grow up in the 60s! in this century, it would be "live streamed."
:shaka: :geekdanc:
BTW, I was born in 61, so we aren't too far apart.
1960 for me. We didn’t know how good we had it man!
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Did you read the bit about him wanting a cut of the reward money?
Yes. It reads exactly like a joke.
Haha that guy kind of looks like you.
Haha I want some of the reward money.
You really have to be hopped up on rage endorphins to read anything insidious into that.
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Yes. It reads exactly like a joke.
Haha that guy kind of looks like you.
Haha I want some of the reward money.
You really have to be hopped up on rage endorphins to read anything insidious into that.
Ok, well I think you’re going to be disappointed
https://youtu.be/MvbQ4wJak_c
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I'm trying to get you to think for yourself. That's what Charlie was all about, and apparently it's also the reason he was assassinated.
Now they are saying the suspect was dating a trans. Interesting how we are being spoon fed this information precisely timed to keep the back-and-forth rage at maximum pitch.
Someone is trying to sew chaos and start a civil war, and it's difficult to tell if it's multiple competing parties or all coming from the same place.
On one side there are the Palestine-supporting perverted eco communists, and on the other are the Zionist Palantir tech bros fighting for control of the Deep State.
They both want to lock us in a social credit crypto digital prison, and accomplishing that requires spreading suffering so bad that we beg for the safety of a New World Order.
That means it's more important than ever to follow the Charlie Kirk example and reach out to those who might disagree with our policies but are also disgusted by manufactured evil currently on display.
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From the substack of
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“What it means is that we must be conscious of why we are fighting and of what we are fighting for. We cannot allow ourselves to become devoted to the cause of capitalism. We cannot be led by those who wish for America to be like it once was; instead, we must assert that America must be no more. By fighting a genuine struggle for liberation, as was fought on the streets of LA, those who are now learning to hate Trump might just learn to hate the USA and dream of a better world.” - 7/25/25
https://substack.com/inbox/post/169235945?r=9cdj0&utm_medium=ios&triedRedirect=true
What is the least bit ambiguous about this movement?
These are demented terrorists. I suggest you read their entire screed, and see how they pivot off of demonization of Trump to assert they are defending the constitution and “democracy” from him (and the rest of the country) - then go straight into the overthrow of capitalism and the destruction of the U.S., in the quote above.
Straight old-time Communist overthrow rhetoric.
It is of the form and logical consistency of an argument devised by a 10 year old, used to sow death.
If you tune into KTUH 90.1 FM every Friday at 10AM, you will hear this exact same argument being made on the Dave Against the Machine show. I encourage you to listen in and comment back to the station, gm@ktuh.org.
This vile poison is everywhere in the college space.
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Have any YouTubers tried disassembling a Mauser in seconds, stuffing the pieces down their pants, and jumping off a roof yet?
Never mind the whole reassembly process and leaving a box in the woods to store it.
Also did you notice how far back that scope was? Could someone fire that thing without getting kissed?
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https://youtube.com/shorts/TljR9guth_Y
https://youtube.com/shorts/zpL7VfCKWlw
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What would AI Charlie say ?
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/dtWwRAfLYjU?feature=share
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Have any YouTubers tried disassembling a Mauser in seconds, stuffing the pieces down their pants, and jumping off a roof yet?
Never mind the whole reassembly process and leaving a box in the woods to store it.
Also did you notice how far back that scope was? Could someone fire that thing without getting kissed?
I have a non-gun friend talk about this. I told him it takes extra time to do, so it wouldn't be a good plan. His reply was "I'm sure a 4.0 student can figure out how to take apart a rifle like this". I told him yes, he can, but you would have to need tools and to stop to do it. Which sucks if you're goal is to get out of dodge ASAP. There are also other rifles that can be taken apart while running with ease (AR, AK, etc...).
Update:
Also, many media pages are talking about how it's a difficult shot and lots of sniper training is needed. Not the mainstream fake news, but others are.
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/2-arrested-after-incendiary-device-found-under-news-vehicle-following-charlie-kirk-killing/ar-AA1MABIT?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=68c85a2b04ad460282759fb51b93ef81&ei=57
Civil war. Suspects had interesting names. Father/Son team?
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i heard one of them was a furry...
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/2-arrested-after-incendiary-device-found-under-news-vehicle-following-charlie-kirk-killing/ar-AA1MABIT?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=68c85a2b04ad460282759fb51b93ef81&ei=57
Civil war. Suspects had interesting names. Father/Son team?
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i heard one of them was a furry...
Awesome strategy these 5th Column deviant globalist-pawn Communists have:
“Hey Americans! Either exterminate us or loose your friggin country!”
They make their own destruction just a function of the natural order of things, like having no choice but to shoot rabid animals.
Brilliant.
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guy mouthing off in front of hpd headquarters...
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DOmuSO1kUNO/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link (https://www.instagram.com/reel/DOmuSO1kUNO/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link)
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People who lost their JOBS over speech are crying foul.
Those same people are celebrating Charlie Kirk losing his LIFE over speech.
They don't see the hypocrisy nor the irony.
:crazy:
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guy mouthing off in front of hpd headquarters...
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DOmuSO1kUNO/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link (https://www.instagram.com/reel/DOmuSO1kUNO/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link)
Their extreme hate and evil is blossoming into eager violence, and the lawful defense against them is going to put some in bodybags, where they belong.
Like moths to flame.
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So much crap on the internet ...don't step in all the bulls...t
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guy mouthing off in front of hpd headquarters...
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DOmuSO1kUNO/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link (https://www.instagram.com/reel/DOmuSO1kUNO/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link)
P.S.Thanks for posting this - will be on the lookout for this maggot.
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They want us to fight each other and create enough chaos to justify the activation of the digital prison.
Check out what got introduced to congress two days ago. One of many coordinated legislative movements that used the assassination as cover.
https://thecradle.co/articles-id/33135
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More on the suspect:
Apparently he has almost zero digital footprint according to independent investigators.
Pretty odd for someone who was supposedly radicalized online to barely exist online.
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They want us to fight each other and create enough chaos to justify the activation of the digital prison.
Check out what got introduced to congress two days ago. One of many coordinated legislative movements that used the assassination as cover.
https://thecradle.co/articles-id/33135
That these programmed Communist hate bots are the most idiotic of the globalist’s collection of useful idiots, is a given.
However, we must certainly walk and chew gum at the same time here, as pretending to go about our business as usual, as they feel empowered to assault us anywhere anytime they please, gets them to their overall objective just the same : The extinction of our civil society.
They also assaulted those at a memorial for Charlie Kirk in Waikiki:
“A group of passersby shouted obscenities and flashed the middle finger, leading to a confrontation with one or more attendees, according to attendees.
“It was a scuffle that turned into a brawl,” Bieler said, although the fight was broken up very quickly with no arrests, as Marquez and others urged attendees to focus on commemorating Kirk. But Bieler said the fight proved that conservatives are ready to fight following Kirk’s death.
“They woke us up,” Bieler said. “We’re not playing games anymore.”
https://alohastatedaily.com/2025/09/14/charlie-kirk/
This doesn’t mean provoking them (no need they’re rabid), but it does mean fully grasping that they want to crush you and yours. Be aware, intelligent, strategic and resolved out there.
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More on the suspect:
Apparently he has almost zero digital footprint according to independent investigators.
Pretty odd for someone who was supposedly radicalized online to barely exist online.
Who said he was radicalized online?
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More on the suspect:
Apparently he has almost zero digital footprint according to independent investigators.
Pretty odd for someone who was supposedly radicalized online to barely exist online.
If so, kinda like that Thomas Matthew Crooks guy …
or maybe he was in such dark places that the investigators don’t know about them - more likely.
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If so, kinda like that Thomas Matthew Crooks guy …
or maybe he was in such dark places that the investigators don’t know about them - more likely.
Hmm. Not the answer I found.
The most likely reasons are out there. Little need for speculation or conjecture.
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or maybe he was in such dark places that the investigators don’t know about them - more likely.
That's certainly the excuse they will use to ban encryption and make biometric identification a requirement to access the internet.
No more whistleblowers or independent journalism, and if you say anything critical of Israel the cops show up to confiscate your guns and shoot your dog.
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More on the suspect:
Apparently he has almost zero digital footprint according to independent investigators.
Pretty odd for someone who was supposedly radicalized online to barely exist online.
If this is true, it's a sign of a psycho. People in their 20's often are always online. (Joking).
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People who lost their JOBS over speech are crying foul.
Those same people are celebrating Charlie Kirk losing his LIFE over speech.
They don't see the hypocrisy nor the irony.
:crazy:
I'm surprised at how many are. When Trump was shot at, not many lost their jobs for celebrating or saying stuff like "too bad he missed". It would appear to me that Kirk has more impact with the people than Trump has. But 1 did die and 1 didn't, so that could be a major factor as well.
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I'm surprised at how many are. When Trump was shot at, not many lost their jobs for celebrating or saying stuff like "too bad he missed". It would appear to me that Kirk has more impact with the people than Trump has. But 1 did die and 1 didn't, so that could be a major factor as well.
Yes. Attempted assassinations are just that -- a failed attempt. Not much reason to celebrate failure. Exposing themselves as ghoulish ideologues with no common decency could hopefully flag them to employers so they can then start documenting reasons to let them go.
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I'm surprised at how many are. When Trump was shot at, not many lost their jobs for celebrating or saying stuff like "too bad he missed". It would appear to me that Kirk has more impact with the people than Trump has. But 1 did die and 1 didn't, so that could be a major factor as well.
Trump is a major political figure with tremendous lethal potential and therefore the risk is generally understood. Plus he survived and came back even stronger which drove the left nuts.
The fact that the Secret Service seemed to be part of the plot along with the FBI literally washing away the evidence also provided a significant distraction from the leftist response.
On the other hand Charlie Kirk was an everyman, and after murdering him they also explicitly put a target on private citizens.
The conservative response so far has been grassroots, lawful, level-headed, and quite effective. There's no need to throw out the first amendment and expand Deep State power.
But it does make one wonder why they haven't declared Antifa a terrorist organization after all these years? It's not like Trump didn't have 5 years to do it already.
Somehow they are useful to both sides.
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Trump is a major political figure with tremendous lethal potential and therefore the risk is generally understood. Plus he survived and came back even stronger which drove the left nuts.
The fact that the Secret Service seemed to be part of the plot along with the FBI literally washing away the evidence also provided a significant distraction from the leftist response.
On the other hand Charlie Kirk was an everyman, and after murdering him they also explicitly put a target on private citizens.
The conservative response so far has been grassroots, lawful, level-headed, and quite effective. There's no need to throw out the first amendment and expand Deep State power.
But it does make one wonder why they haven't declared Antifa a terrorist organization after all these years? It's not like Trump didn't have 5 years to do it already.
Somehow they are useful to both sides.
Don Jr tweeted something along the lines "notice how when a conservative was executed, no business had to board up their windows."
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Don Jr tweeted something along the lines "notice how when a conservative was executed, no business had to board up their windows."
Anyone who hasn't become demonically possessed by toxic ideology can tell the difference, and now the normies are disgusted.
It's the Ghandi strategy. No Deep State required.
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these clickbait websites sometimes make stuff up...
https://news.linkxtop.com/posts/alice-cooper-stuns-america-million-tribute-charlie-kirk-ford-field-geng-thtram123 ;)
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I remember Tucker making fun of Ackman for being a mediocre trust fund baby. At the time I had no idea who he was but it was obvious a bunch of right affiliated influencers had turned against America first and started downplaying the Epstein list while calling for war with Iran.
Also looks like Charlie was in the middle of a conversion to Catholicism. Makes you wonder why.
https://open.substack.com/pub/thegrayzone/p/billionaire-bill-ackman-convened
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I remember Tucker making fun of Ackman for being a mediocre trust fund baby. At the time I had no idea who he was but it was obvious a bunch of right affiliated influencers had turned against America first and started downplaying the Epstein list while calling for war with Iran.
Also looks like Charlie was in the middle of a conversion to Catholicism. Makes you wonder why.
https://open.substack.com/pub/thegrayzone/p/billionaire-bill-ackman-convened
No need to wonder why. He explains it quite well.
https://www.catholicworldreport.com/2025/09/11/charlie-kirk-before-death-i-want-to-be-remembered-for-courage-for-my-faith/
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No need to wonder why. He explains it quite well.
https://www.catholicworldreport.com/2025/09/11/charlie-kirk-before-death-i-want-to-be-remembered-for-courage-for-my-faith/
Beautiful article. Thanks for sharing.
It appears the Catholic church was better than most at resisting woke infiltration.
That's very useful info for those who looking for a church at the moment and don't want their kids choking on rainbows.
It probably depends on the individual congregation though.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgeJy7VCL1U
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNz_LIZljos
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These things are sad to see. And they are popping up all across the country.
Many people are saying the country has gone over the tipping point. I agree.
Some people say we already were and are in a civil war for some time. I agree.
Our country has fallen off the waterfall and is now careening aimlessly down the rapids.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/sign-mourning-charlie-kirk-vandalized-with-2-word-attack/ar-AA1MErld?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=68c9acc2f0244386b4c7a97a91eeb45f&ei=22
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Pam Bondi has threatened to start prosecuting people for hate speech.
That's the same thing the Democrats would be doing if Kamala were in office right now.
They think you are stupid enough to fall for this.
Prove them wrong.
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Pam Bondi has threatened to start prosecuting people for hate speech.
That's the same thing the Democrats would be doing if Kamala were in office right now.
They think you are stupid enough to fall for this.
Prove them wrong.
What someone says they will do and what they wind up doing are often miles apart.
As with Trump, I'm not worried about what she says as much as what she does. She has time to clarify or walk back what she said.
Words are not violence, nor are they the same as action.
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You know Fox News is just MSNBC for Republican boomers, right?
It serves literally the same function to get your emotions jacked up and turn off critical thinking.
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Pam Bondi has threatened to start prosecuting people for hate speech.
That's the same thing the Democrats would be doing if Kamala were in office right now.
They think you are stupid enough to fall for this.
Prove them wrong.
Advocating the overthrow of the U.S. Government is all over this Communist movement.
The bit I posted from Armed Queers includes it. I have heard broadcast on KTUH - it just rolls off their tongues.
Just a reminder that this is NOT protected speech.
From U.S. code:
"From Title 18-CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE
PART I-CRIMES
CHAPTER 115-TREASON, SEDITION, AND SUBVERSIVE ACTIVITIES
§2385. Advocating overthrow of Government
Whoever knowingly or willfully advocates, abets, advises, or teaches the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying the government of the United States or the government of any State, Territory, District or Possession thereof, or the government of any political subdivision therein, by force or violence, or by the assassination of any officer of any such government; or …
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.”
So yeah, the U.S. Congress long ago decided that calling for the overthrow of the United States is prosecutable, and perhaps if laws of this nature were applied to such domestic terrorist organizations Charlie Kirk would still be with us. As it stands, only J6’ers and Traditional Catholics have been deemed worthy being called “Insurrections” and “Domestic Terrorists” - thus you see how we got to this here problem we have …
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What you posted is a crime. Hate speech is free speech. Apples and oranges. This is constitution 101 stuff.
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What you posted is a crime. Hate speech is free speech. Apples and oranges. This is constitution 101 stuff.
Hate speech was criminalized the same way hate crimes were.
Murder is murder, but to the Left, some murders are worse based on the motive.
Same for speech. Free speech is a right unless it involves speech they determined to be based on hate.
It all goes back to the same thing: who gets to decide what is hate speech/a hate crime, and whet is not? It becomes a moving target based on political and societal opinions which shift over time. Hell of a way to apply the Constitution!
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What you posted is a crime. Hate speech is free speech. Apples and oranges. This is constitution 101 stuff.
Exhibit I referenced from Armed Queers includes:
“We cannot be led by those who wish for America to be like it once was; instead, we must assert that America must be no more.”
Operative portion of statute 2385 - Advocating overthrow of Government:
“knowingly or willfully advocates, abets, advises, or teaches the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying the government of the United States”
It’s a crime under this statute, period.
This is NOT protected hate speech. This is what I’m talking about.
U.S. Criminal Code 101 stuff.
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Nothing about the official story makes any sense, and since his murder there has been a coordinated attack from congress and the Trump administration on our constitutional right to free speech.
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Nothing about the official story makes any sense, and since his murder there has been a coordinated attack from congress and the Trump administration on our constitutional right to free speech.
Nothing? Really?
Get your nose out of the substacks and subreddits. That's where things that don't make sense are hatched from no real facts.
Congress just now returned from a recess for the month of August. They couldn't coordinate a Christmas Party on their own.
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Nothing about the official story makes any sense, and since his murder there has been a coordinated attack from congress and the Trump administration on our constitutional right to free speech.
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Which adds up to what exactly?
Seems you’re well conditioned to not react to political assassinations.
Is it the old “ Don’t react, because that’s just what they want” programming?
So easy to neutralize your opponent if they are conditioned to readily embrace such a suggestion. They take themselves out for you.
Could you imagine, for example Admiral Nimitz advising FDR on December 7th, “Sir this is obviously a provocation - reacting militarily is just what they want, we shouldn’t fall into that trap ….
Not trying to be a dick, and I am the last person to suggest not thinking strategically, but on the other hand this fucking thing is not happening outside of YEARS of context - on the contrary, there is continuity in every dimension here.
Wake up an smell the old-timey tyranny, in its latest garb.
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J6 no arrests
2020 no arrests
Covid no arrests
Butler no arrests
Epstein no arrests
Autopen no arrests
Behgazi no arrests
Russiagate no arrests
Antifa funding no arrests
Doge findings no arrests
Trust is earned, and until there are some real consequences I will continue to assume that everything that comes out of DC is part of the psyop.
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J6 no arrests
2020 no arrests
Covid no arrests
Butler no arrests
Epstein no arrests
Autopen no arrests
Behgazi no arrests
Russiagate no arrests
Antifa funding no arrests
Doge findings no arrests
Trust is earned, and until there are some real consequences I will continue to assume that everything that comes out of DC is part of the psyop.
Ok, well, I guess we can agree that this highly influential and charismatic young American statesman was brutally assassinated by someone or something that should be taken down with the full force of American law enforcement, right?
Past that, you say shadowy conspiracy of spooks, and I say the radicalized usual suspects, driven to frenzy by the reelection of Donal J Trump, I.e. the ancient enemies of human liberty, the demon seed, Cain’s progeny.
There, we can end all the redundancies of this circular disagreement which in its totality means exactly squat.
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Thanks to Charlie’s sacrifice we don’t have to wait around for the government to take action and finally have the tools to peacefully remove our local psychopaths from their positions of influence. The momentum of this movement is building and will become a powerful force for positive change in our society as long as we can steer it away from the original intent of using civil conflict as an excuse to dismantle the constitution. Most likely they will try again, possibly with something far worse, but as long as we stick to Christian principles and keep in mind that the vast majority of us just want to live in peace and freedom it will be possible to make it beyond 250 years with the nation still intact.
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Thanks to Charlie’s sacrifice we don’t have to wait around for the government to take action and finally have the tools to peacefully remove our local psychopaths from their positions of influence. The momentum of this movement is building and will become a powerful force for positive change in our society as long as we can steer it away from the original intent of using civil conflict as an excuse to dismantle the constitution. Most likely they will try again, possibly with something far worse, but as long as we stick to Christian principles and keep in mind that the vast majority of us just want to live in peace and freedom it will be possible to make it beyond 250 years with the nation still intact.
Well said - this is certainly what is to be hoped for.
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BREAKING: Utah County DA reads the full text message exchange between Charlie Kirk’s assassin and his transgender boyfriend/roommate after committing the murder:
(https://cms.zerohedge.com/s3/files/inline-images/2025-09-16_15-52-49.png?itok=1lwmLzq_)
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/tyler-robinson-charged-kirk-assassination-urged-trans-boyfriend-stay-silent
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This is why SCOTUS ruled many years ago about "hate speech" being protected by the 1A. Basically, what's hate to 1 may not be hate to another.
As the shooter stated, he felt that Charlie spewed hate, which is untrue. Charlie spit facts. When asked why he hates the LGBTASFLCKHSAOCHSA!$#@BATMANSIGN community, he said he dosesn't hate them, he doesn't agree with their life choices. He loves all of gods creations.
So if we go by logic, the shooter is the typical leftist who goes by feelings over facts.
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This is why SCOTUS ruled many years ago about "hate speech" being protected by the 1A. Basically, what's hate to 1 may not be hate to another.
As the shooter stated, he felt that Charlie spewed hate, which is untrue. Charlie spit facts. When asked why he hates the LGBTASFLCKHSAOCHSA!$#@BATMANSIGN community, he said he dosesn't hate them, he doesn't agree with their life choices. He loves all of gods creations.
So if we go by logic, the shooter is the typical leftist who goes by feelings over facts.
They are just programmed tyrant bots, who believe anything other than capitulation to their demands is “hate”, and therefore can be destroyed.
They demand => you oppose => they label you “Fascist”, “hater” => that label gives them the authorization to to consider any crime against you to be justified => they try to do it.
This is the ancient evil of tyranny, now practiced by spoon-fed babies who have never experienced a day of want in their worthless lives.
Stating the obvious yet again - there is no possibility of coexistence here - they are the end of civilization.
You’re looking at it, it’s for real, the necessary must be done.
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A 71 year old man told police at the event that he shot Charlie Kirk to give the real shooter time to get away.
He was arrested for having child porn.
The evidence continues to roll in indicating there were trans people on Discord with foreknowledge of the assassination.
Old man who falsely claimed he shot
Charlie Kirk is known ‘gadfly’ who told cops he
did it to ‘draw attention from the real shooter’:
report
The known political agitator who falsely confessed to shooting Charlie Kirk
while in the audience at the conservative star’s event told investigators that
he was trying to “draw attention from the real shooter,” according to a report.
Court records revealed that George Zinn, 71 — a known “gadfly” who was led
away from Utah Valley University in handcuffs after the assassination last
Wednesday — told cops he was trying to distract them from the real assassin,
local station Fox 13 reported.
Zinn approached cops immediately after Kirk was killed and yelled, “I shot him,
now shoot me,” the report stated, citing police, who noted that he was unarmed
and taken into custody.
https://nypost.com/2025/09/16/us-news/old-man-who-falsely-claimed-he-shot-charlie-kirk-told-cops-he-did-it-to-draw-attention-real-shooter-report/
gadfly - n.
1. A persistent irritating critic; a nuisance.
2. One that acts as a provocative stimulus; a goad
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Stating the obvious yet again - there is no possibility of coexistence here - they are the end of civilization.
They don't want to coexist, they want you to have the same thoughts as they do. Anyone who can use logic or think for themselves gets attacked, yelled at, harassed, etc...
I've been watching Kirk's vids for years now and it still amazes me how stupid people can be when faced with facts. Including professors at the schools. I'm sure he does get stumped every now and then as no one is 100% perfect.
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They don't want to coexist, they want you to have the same thoughts as they do. Anyone who can use logic or think for themselves gets attacked, yelled at, harassed, etc...
I've been watching Kirk's vids for years now and it still amazes me how stupid people can be when faced with facts. Including professors at the schools. I'm sure he does get stumped every now and then as no one is 100% perfect.
People need to read up on Communist doctrine -- something the Left is adopting under Socialism, Democratic Socialism and Progressivism.
in a nutshell, one of the milestones required to reach the utopian Communist world is there can be no opposition to it. As long as there are those who espouse other political systems, True communism can never exist. In other words, anyone who opposes Communism is obstructing the fulfillment of the Socialist's objective: A Communist World.
By opposing a utopian ideal, you must be either converted or eliminated. There is no coexistence. Therefore, violence is inevitable.
Socialism is a transitional phase. When all people on Earth have adopted it, then Communism will have been achieved.
Karl Marx’s phrase, “The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to
socialism,” captures a central tenet of his philosophy regarding class struggle,
power, and the trajectory of historical progress.
From the Marxist perspective, society is perpetually embroiled in conflict
between different classes, mainly the proletariat and the bourgeoisie. Peace,
therefore, is not simply the lack of violence or war but a deeper societal
harmony rooted in the system of relations between these classes. For Marx,
as long as there is resistance to socialism, resistance stemming from those
who benefit from capitalism and wish to preserve their economic privileges,
true peace cannot exist.
https://fixquotes.com/quotes/the-meaning-of-peace-is-the-absence-of-opposition-16588.htm
Any of these Leftists who argue they are not Socialists or Communists is lying to you and probebly to themselves.
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BREAKING: Utah County DA reads the full text message exchange between Charlie Kirk’s assassin and his transgender boyfriend/roommate after committing the murder:
(https://cms.zerohedge.com/s3/files/inline-images/2025-09-16_15-52-49.png?itok=1lwmLzq_)
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/tyler-robinson-charged-kirk-assassination-urged-trans-boyfriend-stay-silent
This reads like a bad Netflix script.
All the details conveniently laid out with no timestamps and huge gaps.
They even threw in the gay romance.
This is definitely not the conversational style of some zoomer twink who just committed a horrific atrocity and is facing the possibility of their imminent doom.
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when ran through a checker, it comes up as AI...
This reads like a bad Netflix script.
All the details conveniently laid out with no timestamps and huge gaps.
They even threw in the gay romance.
This is definitely not the conversational style of some zoomer twink who just committed a horrific atrocity and is facing the possibility of their imminent doom.
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People need to read up on Communist doctrine -- something the Left is adopting under Socialism, Democratic Socialism and Progressivism.
in a nutshell, one of the milestones required to reach the utopian Communist world is there can be no opposition to it. As long as there are those who espouse other political systems, True communism can never exist. In other words, anyone who opposes Communism is obstructing the fulfillment of the Socialist's objective: A Communist World.
By opposing a utopian ideal, you must be either converted or eliminated. There is no coexistence. Therefore, violence is inevitable.
Socialism is a transitional phase. When all people on Earth have adopted it, then Communism will have been achieved.
https://fixquotes.com/quotes/the-meaning-of-peace-is-the-absence-of-opposition-16588.htm
Any of these Leftists who argue they are not Socialists or Communists is lying to you and probebly to themselves.
I would say what is stopping the enforcement of their believe is the 2A. Imagine if Antifa or other liberals began murdering people in public or kidnapping them. These are the same people who also want to disarm people as well. Hmmmmmmm...It's like our founding fathers knew something.
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I would say what is stopping the enforcement of their believe is the 2A. Imagine if Antifa or other liberals began murdering people in public or kidnapping them. These are the same people who also want to disarm people as well. Hmmmmmmm...It's like our founding fathers knew something.
My social media is very limited but this seems like a once in a lifetime opportunity to permanently discredit some of the more rabid anti gunners and Moms
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This reads like a bad Netflix script.
All the details conveniently laid out with no timestamps and huge gaps.
They even threw in the gay romance.
This is definitely not the conversational style of some zoomer twink who just committed a horrific atrocity and is facing the possibility of their imminent doom.
Don’t worry Francine - if it is, surely his Soros-paid legal team will prove it and call for dismissal on the grounds of false evidence WHICH THE DA KNOWS WILL HAPPEN IF HE MAKES FALSE EVIDENCE PUBLIC…. but for some reason he felt confident in doing so anyway ….
For f’s sake!
Oh yeah - forgot the charge of prosecutorial misconduct. I’m sure there are many other grounds for dismissal or mistrial I’m ignorant of.
Safe to say, with the volume of evidence released publicly so far, if it is false this kid has nothing to worry about.
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when ran through a checker, it comes up as AI...
Yeah, AI is great
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8SbeHhNR9k
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This NJ nurse was placed on unpaid leave after she called out a doctor who cheered the death of Charlie Kirk.
After she filed a lawsuit, the nurse was reinstated, and the doctor was permitted to resign. She's the perfect example of a whistleblower who was retaliated against before the hospital realized they f***ed up.
NJ nurse suspended without pay for
calling out doctor who ‘cheered’
Charlie Kirk’s death: suit
“I hate Charlie Kirk. He had it coming. He deserved it,” the bariatric surgeon
allegedly said.
[/quote]
https://nypost.com/2025/09/13/us-news/nj-nurse-suspended-without-pay-for-calling-out-doctor-who-cheered-charlie-kirks-death-lawsuit/
N.J. Surgeon Who Mocked Kirk Quits;
Nurse Reinstated
A New Jersey surgeon who allegedly celebrated the assassination of
conservative leader Charlie Kirk resigned Monday, and the nurse who
called him out was reinstated.
Dr. Matthew Jung "cheered and publicly praised" Kirk's death Wednesday
when he learned of the shooting while working at Englewood Health,
NJ.com reported, according to a lawsuit filed by nurse Lexi Kuenzle
against Jung and the hospital. Kuenzle filed the lawsuit Friday alleging
a hostile workplace and retaliation after she was suspended and told she
could be fired.
"Consistent with protocol and best practices, Englewood Health diligently
investigated the Sept. 10 incident that occurred between a doctor and a
nurse in a patient care area," the hospital said in a statement Monday,
NJ.com reported. "We have accepted the physician's resignation, and the
nurse is expected to work her scheduled shifts."
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/matthew-jung-lexi-kuenzle-charlie-kirk/2025/09/15/id/1226506/
https://youtube.com/shorts/826kxqbY2js
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Hospitals got $40,000 for every dead patient they could blame on Covid.
Some people went in perfectly healthy except for a minor injury and never came out again.
Now we know how they chose their victims.
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Hospitals got $40,000 for every dead patient they could blame on Covid.
Some people went in perfectly healthy except for a minor injury and never came out again.
Now we know how they chose their victims.
:stopjack: :stopjack: :stopjack:
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Hospitals got $40,000 for every dead patient they could blame on Covid.
Some people went in perfectly healthy except for a minor injury and never came out again.
Now we know how they chose their victims.
No shit - deadly tyranny under guise of public health was just too irresistible for them - the breadth and depth of their malignancy across our society and our institutions was on full display.
Now they resort to rabid violence.
There’s no going back, no more pretending, no more wishful thinking, only powering through the messy job at had to restore civil society.
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This NJ nurse was placed on unpaid leave after she called out a doctor who cheered the death of Charlie Kirk.
After she filed a lawsuit, the nurse was reinstated, and the doctor was permitted to resign. She's the perfect example of a whistleblower who was retaliated against before the hospital realized they f***ed up.
NJ nurse suspended without pay for
calling out doctor who ‘cheered’
Charlie Kirk’s death: suit
“I hate Charlie Kirk. He had it coming. He deserved it,” the bariatric surgeon
allegedly said.
https://nypost.com/2025/09/13/us-news/nj-nurse-suspended-without-pay-for-calling-out-doctor-who-cheered-charlie-kirks-death-lawsuit/
N.J. Surgeon Who Mocked Kirk Quits;
Nurse Reinstatedhttps://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/matthew-jung-lexi-kuenzle-charlie-kirk/2025/09/15/id/1226506/
https://youtube.com/shorts/826kxqbY2js
Just awesome! How I hope the tide is turning.
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This NJ nurse was placed on unpaid leave after she called out a doctor who cheered the death of Charlie Kirk.
After she filed a lawsuit, the nurse was reinstated, and the doctor was permitted to resign. She's the perfect example of a whistleblower who was retaliated against before the hospital realized they f***ed up.
NJ nurse suspended without pay for
calling out doctor who ‘cheered’
Charlie Kirk’s death: suit
“I hate Charlie Kirk. He had it coming. He deserved it,” the bariatric surgeon
allegedly said.
https://nypost.com/2025/09/13/us-news/nj-nurse-suspended-without-pay-for-calling-out-doctor-who-cheered-charlie-kirks-death-lawsuit/
N.J. Surgeon Who Mocked Kirk Quits;
Nurse Reinstatedhttps://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/matthew-jung-lexi-kuenzle-charlie-kirk/2025/09/15/id/1226506/
https://youtube.com/shorts/826kxqbY2js
The problem is that she should have never been suspended. Now they will look for things to fire her as the days/months/years pass.
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The problem is that she should have never been suspended. Now they will look for things to fire her as the days/months/years pass.
They better have objective reasons that are provable. Otherwise, the whistleblower protections will smack them down.
They've already shown they have an inclination to retaliate against WB's, so to go after her would be stupid -- and expensive.
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:stopjack: :stopjack: :stopjack:
That’s perfectly on topic.
Doctors have been murdering people at the hospitals for money, and it’s likely that they chose some of their victims based on their perceived conservative beliefs.
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That’s perfectly on topic.
Doctors have been murdering people at the hospitals for money, and it’s likely that they chose some of their victims based on their perceived conservative beliefs.
:wacko:
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:wacko:
Oops my bad
They only got extra money for Covid treatments like putting people on ventilators. So just the torture part was incentivized.
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/apr/21/facebook-posts/Fact-check-Hospitals-COVID-19-payments/
The deaths were merely useful for messing with statistics and having an excuse to work on their dance routines.
How many other industries and government agencies ruined people’s lives for being associated with MAGA?
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Oops my bad
They only got extra money for Covid treatments like putting people on ventilators. So just the torture part was incentivized.
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/apr/21/facebook-posts/Fact-check-Hospitals-COVID-19-payments/
The deaths were merely useful for messing with statistics and having an excuse to work on their dance routines.
How many other industries and government agencies ruined people’s lives for being associated with MAGA?
So, you're making conspiratorial conclusions based on "facts" that were just pure fiction? Go figure!
"How many other industries and government agencies ruined people’s lives for being associated with MAGA?"
You should start another thread and see what evidence you can accumulate for that question. Obviously it has absolutely nothing to do with this topic, although I'm sure you'll try to find some tenuous tangent to tie them together.
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So, you're making conspiratorial conclusions based on "facts" that were just pure fiction? Go figure!
"How many other industries and government agencies ruined people’s lives for being associated with MAGA?"
You should start another thread and see what evidence you can accumulate for that question. Obviously it has absolutely nothing to do with this topic, although I'm sure you'll try to find some tenuous tangent to tie them together.
If the uncomfortable realities currently revealing themselves burn you like a hot iron because of your inability to accept the fact that you made bad choices, then that’s your problem.
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If the uncomfortable realities currently revealing themselves burn you like a hot iron because of your inability to accept the fact that you made bad choices, then that’s your problem.
You can't come up with anything pithier or at least funnier? That one is getting old -- just like all your conspiratorial nonsense.
The only bad choice I made was trying to have a rational discussion with you that focuses on the stated topic.
:popcorn: :geekdanc: :wacko:
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Medical errors are a leading cause of death
Several doctors and nurses have gotten caught murdering hundreds of patients, but we always thought of these as isolated cases.
Because of the Charlie videos it’s obvious that the evil in medicine (and likely other industries and government agencies) is far worse than we imagined.
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Medical errors are a leading cause of death
Did Charlie Kirk die from a "medical error?"
Several doctors and nurses have gotten caught murdering hundreds of patients, but we always thought of these as isolated cases.
Source? In what period of time were these "hundreds of patients murdered" Was this for individuals' motives, or was the hospital involved?
Because of the Charlie videos it’s obvious that the evil in medicine (and likely other industries and government agencies) is far worse than we imagined.
Which "Charlie videos" prove "that the evil in medicine (and likely other industries and government agencies) is far worse than we imagine?" Post links for the videos assuming they even exist.
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How many patients went through these people’s hands and didn’t survive because the medical staff decided they had the wrong political beliefs?
https://youtu.be/dpMvMLC1MrM
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How many patients went through these people’s hands and didn’t survive because the medical staff decided they had the wrong political beliefs?
https://youtu.be/dpMvMLC1MrM
How many of the medical staff had any knowledge at all of their patients' political beliefs?
Do you have that answer? Or are you just tossing it out to try and get people to draw their own conclusions based on no data?
Doesn't seem like a "real" question. yet you claim mine are not real in order to deflect and refuse to answer.
It's easy. Charlie Kirk was NOT killed by any medical error. See how easy that was?
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It's easy. Charlie Kirk was NOT killed by any medical error. See how easy that was?
I never implied that Charlie was killed by physicians
My point was that the medical establishment is infested with psychopaths who openly celebrated his murder, which makes me wonder how often doctors and nurses have retaliated against patients because of their political beliefs, especially when combined with perverse financial incentives like the ones during the COVID scamdemic.
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I never implied that Charlie was killed by physicians
My point was that the medical establishment is infested with psychopaths who openly celebrated his murder, which makes me wonder how often doctors and nurses have retaliated against patients because of their political beliefs, especially when combined with perverse financial incentives like the ones during the COVID scamdemic.
MY point is that the topic is Charlie Kirk dead at age 31.
If you're posting stats (or just wondering out loud) about how many people are killed by physicians intentionally because of political motives, it's either related to his death, or it's totally off-topic.
We all know the answer. :stopjack:
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MY point is that the topic is Charlie Kirk dead at age 31.
If you're posting stats (or just wondering out loud) about how many people are killed by physicians intentionally because of political motives, it's either related to his death, or it's totally off-topic.
We all know the answer. :stopjack:
You’re the only person who cares about what you think
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You’re the only person who cares about what you think
You sure seem to.
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You sure seem to.
If you’re going to wage a censorship campaign against me by burying my posts under a wall of garbage then I will continue to remind you that your posts are boring, tedious, and full of self importance and most people don’t bother to read them.
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I never implied that Charlie was killed by physicians
My point was that the medical establishment is infested with psychopaths who openly celebrated his murder, which makes me wonder how often doctors and nurses have retaliated against patients because of their political beliefs, especially when combined with perverse financial incentives like the ones during the COVID scamdemic.
This is an important topic that has profound implications in our daily lives and is very relevant to the subject at hand.
What’s the difference between silencing someone for their opinions using a bullet vs using the wrong medication and making it look like an accident?
How many MAGAs have been Charlie Kirked in their hospital beds by radical leftist physicians and nurses?
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This is an important topic that has profound implications in our daily lives and is very relevant to the subject at hand.
What’s the difference between silencing someone for their opinions using a bullet vs using the wrong medication and making it look like an accident?
How many MAGAs have been Charlie Kirked in their hospital beds by radical leftist physicians and nurses?
Why don't you tell the rest of us, oh wise and omnipotent one?
How many MAGAs have been Charlie Kirked in their hospital beds by radical leftist physicians and nurses?
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If you’re going to wage a censorship campaign against me by burying my posts under a wall of garbage then I will continue to remind you that your posts are boring, tedious, and full of self importance and most people don’t bother to read them.
if anyone needs a textbook example of "hypocrisy," bookmark the comment above.
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How many MAGAs have been Charlie Kirked in their hospital beds by radical leftist physicians and nurses?
Excellent question. Makes you wonder what other institutions have been silently attacking us as well.
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Excellent question. Makes you wonder what other institutions have been silently attacking us as well.
So, you're saying you don't have any idea how many?
Could be 1?
Could be 10?
Could be 100?
Could be 1,000?
Could be 0!!
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Could be 0!!
Not if this is any indication. It was a former executive in the Sacramento teachers union who did this. I’d say we are in more danger now than ever.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/baby-boomer-arrested-shooting-sacramento-abc-tv-station
It’s time to purge this homicidal philosophy from our institutions
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Not if this is any indication. It was a former executive in the Sacramento teachers union who did this. I’d say we are in more danger now than ever.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/baby-boomer-arrested-shooting-sacramento-abc-tv-station
It’s time to purge this homicidal philosophy from our institutions
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How is that in any way relevant? The question is:
How many MAGAs have been Charlie Kirked in their hospital beds by radical leftist physicians and nurses?
For all you know, this was someone in Kimmel's production crew who wants their high-paying job back -- a Libtard mad at that ABC affiliate for taking Kimmel off the air?
Probably nothing to do with anti-MAGA or Charlie Kirk.
So, you can't answer the question, therefore it's time to deflect and obfuscate once more.
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How is that in any way relevant? The question is:
How many MAGAs have been Charlie Kirked in their hospital beds by radical leftist physicians and nurses?
For all you know, this was someone in Kimmel's production crew who wants their high-paying job back -- a Libtard mad at that ABC affiliate for taking Kimmel off the air?
Probably nothing to do with anti-MAGA or Charlie Kirk.
So, you can't answer the question, therefore it's time to deflect and obfuscate once more.
You still have yet to produce any valid criticism. Stringing random angry words together doesn’t count.
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You still have yet to produce any valid criticism. Stringing random angry words together doesn’t count.
:stopjack: :stopjack: :stopjack:
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Majority Of Democrats Refuse To Support Resolution Rejecting Political Violence
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/majority-democrats-refuse-support-resolution-rejecting-political-violence
(https://cms.zerohedge.com/s3/files/inline-images/AOC1.jpeg)
It’s almost like they are sending a message to their radical base.
Careful about revealing your political affiliation when you are dealing with institutions and people who can ruin your life until this gets sorted out.
https://youtu.be/wTVwjsZU8eM
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The conspiracy theories surrounding Kirk’s murder is sickening. I love a good conspiracy, but what I’m seeing is absolutely disgusting. People have already made up their minds even though professional snipers have come out and said the guy was an amateur. Apparently Erika Kirk is going to come out and address a lot of the misinformation surrounding Charlie’s “changing” stances on Israel, Catholicism, etc. people are already convincing themselves that if Erika goes against anything these conspiracy theorists have convinced themselves of she must be “bought” or scared for her life. Absolutely sickening.
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The conspiracy theories surrounding Kirk’s murder is sickening. I love a good conspiracy, but what I’m seeing is absolutely disgusting. People have already made up their minds even though professional snipers have come out and said the guy was an amateur. Apparently Erika Kirk is going to come out and address a lot of the misinformation surrounding Charlie’s “changing” stances on Israel, Catholicism, etc. people are already convincing themselves that if Erika goes against anything these conspiracy theorists have convinced themselves of she must be “bought” or scared for her life. Absolutely sickening.
A lot of the official story doesn’t make any sense, but nobody will ever know what really happened besides the people involved. The only important questions that remain are how the resulting crisis will be used to further deep state agendas regarding free speech, digital ID, and increasingly unpopular uniparty foreign policy.
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I wonder if the same poster here will bring up if trump attends the funeral, how its a waste of tax payers money like how he attended a football game?
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The conspiracy theories surrounding Kirk’s murder is sickening. I love a good conspiracy, but what I’m seeing is absolutely disgusting. People have already made up their minds even though professional snipers have come out and said the guy was an amateur. Apparently Erika Kirk is going to come out and address a lot of the misinformation surrounding Charlie’s “changing” stances on Israel, Catholicism, etc. people are already convincing themselves that if Erika goes against anything these conspiracy theorists have convinced themselves of she must be “bought” or scared for her life. Absolutely sickening.
Yeah we’re in it neck deep in this country now.
Government and media have lied for so long that virtually no established institutions that people used to look to in the past can remotely be trusted - a true evil for society, because literally anyone in the digital age can step into the void and fill it with, well, whatever at all, and some segment of the population will buy it hook line and sinker.
Seems all you can do is pray, elevate yourself mentally and physically, and not be afraid to speak out for what you believe.
‘Best to you and yours brother.
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Founder of Armed Queers group investigated
in Charlie Kirk shooting is radical trans leftist
who advocated violence
The founder of Armed Queers SLC, a pro-gun LGBTQ group being investigated
by the FBI for possible ties to accused Charlie Kirk sniper Tyler Robinson, has
been identified as a radical transgender political organizer with ties to communist
politics.
Armed Queers SLC quietly scrubbed its online presence after Kirk was assassinated,
but a law enforcement source told The Post that all open-source information on the
group was downloaded and handed over to the FBI.
The cache of information includes posts from Ermiya Fanaeian, the child of Iranian
immigrants, according to the source familiar with the federal investigation, whose
Instagram bio calls for “Revolution + Trans liberation in our lifetime!”
https://nypost.com/2025/09/17/us-news/armed-queers-founder-ermiya-fanaeian-is-radical-trans-leftist/
Trans Leader of Utah ANTIFA Group
Under FBI Investigation
Tied to Communist Billionaire
https://youtube.com/shorts/G-0vPK5H4aY
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Founder of Armed Queers group investigated
in Charlie Kirk shooting is radical trans leftist
who advocated violencehttps://nypost.com/2025/09/17/us-news/armed-queers-founder-ermiya-fanaeian-is-radical-trans-leftist/
Trans Leader of Utah ANTIFA Group
Under FBI Investigation
Tied to Communist Billionaire
https://youtube.com/shorts/G-0vPK5H4aY
I have a headache trying to understand this whole pile of crap
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I have a headache trying to understand this whole pile of crap
The big fonts don’t help
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I have a headache trying to understand this whole pile of crap
Watch the YouTube "Short".
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A doctor is saying why the 30 06 bullet didnt exit and hit the people behind him is becuase it stuck kirks bone. His bone was denser than the normal man. So it helped stop the bullet.
Kirk often stated 1 diff between men and women is bone density.
Even in death, hes saving lives and proving facts.
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That LGBQT en no meno P group reminds me of the cute chihuahua that looks innocently at you until you try to pet him/her/it.
Then they bite.
They bite the hand that feeds them. The are against capitalism. They want things but don't want to work for it.
They don't want to earn money. They want YOUR money.
Communism in all its glory.
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That LGBQT en no meno P group reminds me of the cute chihuahua that looks innocently at you until you try to pet him/her/it.
Then they bite.
They bite the hand that feeds them. The are against capitalism. They want things but don't want to work for it.
They don't want to earn money. They want YOUR money.
Communism in all its glory.
it all started with this in the 1970s.
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The big fonts don’t help
LOL!!
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it all started with this in the 1970s.
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Yeah back then we all laughed at it.
40 years later it demands to read stories to children at the public school,
…. and they actually let it
Still hasn’t washed its hands
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Transgenders have been around forever and up till now they were pretty harmless
It was only recently that communists hijacked the idea so that they could recruit ugly mentally disturbed people by giving them special rights and turn them into their murder squad.
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Transgenders have been around forever and up till now they were pretty harmless
It was only recently that communists hijacked the idea so that they could recruit ugly mentally disturbed people by giving them special rights and turn them into their murder squad.
They gotta be at the bottom of their barrel here. What’s left? Trans assistant crack whores? After those I guess it’s just Mazie Hirono.
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They gotta be at the bottom of their barrel here. What’s left? Trans assistant crack whores? After those I guess it’s just Mazie Hirono.
This article explains it pretty well
https://www.kunstler.com/p/dressed-to-kill
The TLDR is that the latest version of communism uses the defense of minorities as cover for their infiltration operations, and with transgenderism anyone can pretend to be a minority in order to claim the cherished victim status.
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This article explains it pretty well
https://www.kunstler.com/p/dressed-to-kill
The TLDR is that the latest version of communism uses the defense of minorities as cover for their infiltration operations, and with transgenderism anyone can pretend to be a minority in order to claim the cherished victim status.
Well as someone who has observed them for more decades than I would have ever imagined, it seems to me that the good news is that they are clearly incapable of evolving strategically or tactically. Mao was their last great innovator, with his cultural revolution, which they have been replaying now for the last couple of decades in our schools and universities.
The bad news, is that on the one hand, there never seems to be a shortage of sociopaths and broken morons to march at their command into hell with them, while on the other, there always seems to be a shortage of true American political leaders to coordinate the political effort to eradicate them from our society - but I truly believe we the people will get there, with or without political leadership.
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A doctor is saying why the 30 06 bullet didnt exit and hit the people behind him is becuase it stuck kirks bone. His bone was denser than the normal man. So it helped stop the bullet.
Kirk often stated 1 diff between men and women is bone density.
Even in death, hes saving lives and proving facts.
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I’m assuming an underpowered handliad with a lower grain bullet. No way a factory loaded 150-170 grain bullet doesn’t spray pink mist all over the back of that tent.
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I’m assuming an underpowered handliad with a lower grain bullet. No way a factory loaded 150-170 grain bullet doesn’t spray pink mist all over the back of that tent.
The story gets dumber and dumber. They obviously flooded the zone with bogus conspiracy theories to try and discredit the critics, but the management of the official narrative has been executed so poorly that it’s turned into an Emperor Has No Clothes moment.
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How do you make a Liberal's head explode?
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New College announces Charlie Kirk statue
to honor assassinated conservative influencer
New College of Florida will commission a statue of conservative activist
Charlie Kirk, the school announced on Sept. 16.
The announcement comes as hundreds of vigils at universities have been
held across the country in Kirk’s memory, with conservative leaders
launching similar efforts to memorialize him. Kirk, a 31-year-old conservative
activist and co-founder of Turning Point USA, was fatally shot during a
3,000-person event at Utah Valley University on Sept. 10.
The statue will be privately funded by community leaders, and its location
will be announced in the coming months. The statue will “stand on campus
as a commitment by New College to defend and fight for free speech and
civil discourse in American life,” said Jamie Miller, vice president of
communications and chief marketing officer.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/local/2025/09/16/statue-of-charlie-kirk-to-be-placed-at-new-college-florida/86182993007/
Don't forget Liberals on and off campuses need to be controlled.
Charlie Kirk's statue needs to be protected.
https://youtu.be/9CgQ1WkuCak
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I’m assuming an underpowered handliad with a lower grain bullet. No way a factory loaded 150-170 grain bullet doesn’t spray pink mist all over the back of that tent.
Agreed.
There is NO bone in your neck which will stop that round (factory loaded) at that distance.
It’s either somehow miraculous, or it’s just not a true statement.
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Agreed.
There is NO bone in your neck which will stop that round (factory loaded) at that distance.
It’s either somehow miraculous, or it’s just not a true statement.
I don't know if they released the details on the bullet. Like would a hollow point be stopped by a neck bone? I don't own any 30-06 or 7.62; so I'm uneducated on the subject as I haven't ever looked into this.
What I have looked into is AR500 armor (AR500 steel) and how it can take 70+ rounds of 7.62/30-06 and no problem. But a single .223 round going 3000 fps will penetrate it. "Speed kills" is the saying. There are youtube vids confirming.
At the time of me looking into this, AR500 Armor Systems (the company) stated that it (AR500 plate) can stop .223/556 rounds. But youtube disproved it and they changed their story that you now need lvl III+ to stop 223 rounds which is their AR550 steel.
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I don't know if they released the details on the bullet. Like would a hollow point be stopped by a neck bone? I don't own any 30-06 or 7.62; so I'm uneducated on the subject as I haven't ever looked into this.
What I have looked into is AR500 armor (AR500 steel) and how it can take 70+ rounds of 7.62/30-06 and no problem. But a single .223 round going 3000 fps will penetrate it. "Speed kills" is the saying. There are youtube vids confirming.
At the time of me looking into this, AR500 Armor Systems (the company) stated that it (AR500 plate) can stop .223/556 rounds. But youtube disproved it and they changed their story that you now need lvl III+ to stop 223 rounds which is their AR550 steel.
To stop a rifle round (based on NIJ rating), you have to have either AR500 steel, ceramic or composite plates. No soft armor exists with the expectation of being capable of stopping rifle rounds by itself.
According to video analysis by several people posting online, there's no one who believes he was wearing a plate carrier. IF he had anything at all, it was soft material that would only be rated to stop handgun rounds. A Level IV ceramic plate would need to be about 1" thick to stop a 30-06 round -- plus the thickness of the plate carrier. This would be hard to hide under a t-shirt.
NIJ Level III (NIJ RF1) is rated to stop:
7.62x51mm M80 Ball NATO FMJ Steel Jacket 149 +0/-3 grain round,
7.62x39mm MSC Ball Ammunition Type 56 from Factory 31 round, and
5.56mm M193 56 +0/-2 grain round.
NIJ Level IV (NIJ RF3) is rated to stop:
30.06 M2 AP*165.7 +0/-7 grain round
*("AP" == "Armor Piercing").
None of that matters if the bullet impacted above the plate carrier -- neck or cranium.
Level III+ isn't an official label from NIJ. They call it NIJ RF2, with RF1 being Level III and RF3 being Level IV. I guess it's too much to ask for the numbers to align! RF means 'Rifle'. The handgun-rated levels are designated HG1 and HG2 (Level II and Level IIA respectively).
Level I armor is no longer part of the NIJ standard, which was only rated for .22LR and .380ACP rounds. The lowest NIJ rating is Level II.
https://nij.ojp.gov/topics/equipment-and-technology/specification-nij-ballistic-protection-levels-and-associated-test-threats-nij-standard-012300
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https://youtu.be/I7RCTmFIjBY
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Now Disney has turned around and decided to have Kimmel return to the air tomorrow, Sep 23.
i guess they sat around discussing this over a cooler of Bud Light. Or maybe the gunshots directed at an ABC affiliate office made them change their minds? Terrorism is like that -- makes you give the terrorists what they want hoping the terrorists won't keep shooting at you.
Kimmel is now making Charlie Kirk's death a gun control issue and sidestepping the MAGA lies.
I almost wish I was a regular viewer so i can turn is dumb a$$ off!
Now we get to see if the FCC follows through.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/tv/2025/09/22/jimmy-kimmel-suspension-ends-return-to-abc/86298338007/
https://youtu.be/tuKktN2bLw4
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Sacramento ABC TV station shooting suspect had note
naming Trump administration officials in vehicle,
federal prosecutors say
i guess Kimmel can go on air tomorrow night and claim this guy was a disillusioned MAGA supporter. No worse than the other lies he been telling.
Since when did late night comedy turn into all politics - all the time? Nothing Kimmel says are jokes. When he does try, it's always at the expense of someone he hates, usually a political figure.
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They'll get a temporary bump in the ratings, but with Sinclair banning it on hundreds of stations it won't matter.
Not good news if Disney is in your portfolio. They surrendered what was left of their functional business model to a bunch of My Little Antifa ponies.
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I didn't even know this kimmel guy had a show prior to all this mess.
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same media was happy when Trump was banned from Facebook and Twitter...double standard
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I wonder what those "thoughtful conversations" between Dizzy and Jimmy the hater were about.
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https://www.youtube.com/shorts/zNena4ipkBk
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The way this is shaking out with ABC, it sounds like the Sacramento affiliate boss whose office was shot up is terrified. They are saying they will not air Kimmel's show tomorrow, but they also canceled airing the Charlie Kirk memorial service over death threats.
Disney is now letting Kimmel come back with no public apology -- same comments he made before the preemptions.
What I'm feeling is ABC decided to cave to the left. Now it's up to the FCC to take action. If they do, then ABC can claim they are not responsible for Kimmel being cancelled -- it was the FCC's doing. I don't know what muscle the FCC has to flex against ABC, but I imagine there are fines and the threat of losing their license, maybe others.
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GnG trying to be reasonable in an unreasonable world
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XoHKCbX8oA
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The real war is only beginning.
I find it very interesting though, that the organization of the man they martyred is called “Turning Point USA”…
… because I believe it is.
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Wait i thought the communist FCC controlled by dictator supreme leader trump cancelled the show. Now they must have uncancelled it right? Sarcasm.
The left lies as usual and gets caught up in it.
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Wait i thought the communist FCC controlled by dictator supreme leader trump cancelled the show. Now they must have uncancelled it right? Sarcasm.
The left lies as usual and gets caught up in it.
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You need to ask EEF where he gets his news from. He's the only one who posted that gaslighting talking point about the FCC unconstitutionally threatening to revoke ABC's broadcast license.
i'm sure he'll be tuned into Kimmel tomorrow with snacks and beverages to celebrate his return. Because, you know he would celebrate the reversal of such a blatanly unconstitutional move by the Trump administration.
:geekdanc:
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https://youtu.be/wBc9XkuOqnU