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Title: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on September 15, 2025, 01:18:31 PM
These liberals stated that we Conservatives NEED TO FEAR DEATH so we stop saying what we say and voting for who we want in office.

How is that not terrorism?

https://youtu.be/tymcwuqWrJg
Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: Kalihi Uka on September 15, 2025, 04:51:47 PM
This IS the Democrat Party now!

Think that's over the top?

Post anything that supports the claim that whatever non-psychopaths there still are in that festering sewer of treason, hate and destruction called the Democrat Party, are trying to take their party back to humanity - are fighting to make it more "centrist", to back away from supporting the illegal invasion of their country, to back away from LGBQT-Two-Spirit-Furry-Inverted-Wiener-Worship of the Great Bunghole+? - to back away from the most extreme misogyny in human history - to whit, there are no females except those as designated by homosexual males, i.e. the complete erasure of womankind.

It cannot be found, because such a movement does not exist inside that hellscape.

Reverse the poles - what if so called "conservatives" were preaching genocide against, well anyone, would there be crickets?

What if someone put a hole through Multi-Millionaire ($15MM) Socialist Bernie Sanders when he was out preaching violence and Communism - would millions of us post ghoulish celebrations of that act?

Hell no!

Every single one of them who still calls themselves a Democrat owns this.

Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: hvybarrels on September 15, 2025, 05:27:50 PM
Why hasn’t Antifa been declared a terrorist organization yet?

Are we giving them a couple weeks to destroy evidence first?

Could it be there is a data trail that connects them with a certain pariah state that specializes in assassinations?
Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on September 15, 2025, 05:47:19 PM
Why hasn’t Antifa been declared a terrorist organization yet?

Are we giving them a couple weeks to destroy evidence first?

Could it be there is a data trail that connects them with a certain pariah state that specializes in assassinations?
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On January 9, 2025, Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene introduced
House Resolution 26 (H.Res. 26), seeking to designate Antifa and its
affiliates as a domestic terrorist organization under section 2331 of title 18,
United States Code. The resolution points to a series of violent incidents
linked to Antifa-affiliated individuals and demonstrations, arguing that such
conduct constitutes domestic terrorism. Proponents view the resolution as
a step toward combating political violence, while critics raise significant
concerns about enforceability, civil liberties, and the potential for government
overreach.
https://gtnm.org/h-res-26-deeming-antifa-a-domestic-terrorist-organization-policy-analysis/

Last  Action:
01/09/2025   Referred to the House Committee on the Judiciary.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-resolution/26/all-actions
Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: hvybarrels on September 15, 2025, 05:50:49 PM
Is it getting held up in committee by all the Republicans that voted to seal the Epstein files last week?
Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on September 15, 2025, 06:15:51 PM
Is it getting held up in committee by all the Republicans that voted to seal the Epstein files last week?
She introduced a House Resolution 202 in 2023. 

It died in committee (never made it to the full House for consideration).

This one revives that Resolution in Jan this year, but seems to have even less support, likely because ANTIFA hasn't been as active as they were before Trump's first term.

H.Res. 202 (118th)
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/118/hres202
Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: hvybarrels on September 15, 2025, 07:45:11 PM
This one revives that Resolution in Jan this year, but seems to have even less support, likely because ANTIFA hasn't been as active as they were before Trump's first term.

How is doxing and attacking ICE agents not considered active?

Apparently House Republicans are more than happy to allow Democrat goon squads to run rampant for some reason.

If I was a federal agent dealing with the same monsters over and over again I would be furious.
Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on September 15, 2025, 08:15:35 PM
How is doxing and attacking ICE agents not considered active?

Apparently House Republicans are more than happy to allow Democrat goon squads to run rampant for some reason.

If I was a federal agent dealing with the same monsters over and over again I would be furious.
Trump was inaugurated in January.

The new resolution was submitted in January.

When did ANTIFA start doxing and attacking ICE agents?

The only total i found was from Portland: 
Quote
With the addition of these four individuals, the number of federal defendants
charged in Portland in connection to protests and attacks at the ICE facility
since June 13, 2025, now stands at 22.
https://www.rvmnews.com/2025/07/four-more-antifa-extremists-charged-after-attacking-portland-ice-facility-watch/

So, i'm going with early June for the start of ANTIFA attacks on ICE this year.

In Aug, both the House and Senate took off every Monday, Wednesday and Thursday and almost all weekends. 

In Sep so far, they worked Tue - Thur the first week, and Mon - Thur this week.

If think Congress will get off their collective duff and do something besides campaign for reelection and attend parties, you haven't been paying attention.

https://www.congress.gov/days-in-session/119th-congress

Maybe MTG can push the resolution though now that the Summer's arrests of ANTIFA members are a matter of record?  We'll see.
Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: hvybarrels on September 15, 2025, 11:22:57 PM
Antifa has been active the whole time. Andy Ngo has been tracking them ever since they gave him permanent brain damage,
Lots of murder and mayhem. Seattle and Portland are their incubators and the police have been instructed not to touch them.

Clearly a significant faction within our government finds them useful, otherwise they would not be allowed to exist.
The feds could roll them up in an afternoon. If they don’t do it soon then someone on the freshly radicalized right is going to step up and do it for them.

Maybe that’s the whole point. Sow chaos. We just haven’t taken the bait yet and the deep state is getting frustrated.
Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: Kalihi Uka on September 15, 2025, 11:34:50 PM
Clearly a significant faction Democrats within our government finds them useful, otherwise they would not be allowed to exist.
The feds could roll them up in an afternoon. If they don’t do it soon then someone on the freshly radicalized right is going to step up and do it for them.

Separately, looks like firing squad really IS a possibility if found guilty in Utah;

“Bondi said she expects prosecutors to seek the death penalty, which she described as “very real in Utah,” noting that the state is allowed to use firing squads to carry out executions.”

That’d be a super sweet bookend just for all the demonic slime celebrating the shooting of Charlie Kirk by this satanic POS!
Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: hvybarrels on September 16, 2025, 12:10:58 AM
He’s a patsy. You’re watching a scripted tv program designed to squeeze your adrenals into doing something stupid.
Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on September 16, 2025, 12:20:39 AM
Separately, looks like firing squad really IS a possibility if found guilty in Utah;

“Bondi said she expects prosecutors to seek the death penalty, which she described as “very real in Utah,” noting that the state is allowed to use firing squads to carry out executions.”

That’d be a super sweet bookend just for all the demonic slime celebrating the shooting of Charlie Kirk by this satanic POS!
Utah law stopped allowing a sentence of death by firing squad in 2004.  Anyone sentenced before 2004 and who opted for a firing squad is still able to have that option.  All death sentences after 2004 must be by lethal injection.

Exception:  If within 30 days of the execution date the state is unable to obtain the necessary chemicals to properly perform a lethal injection, then a firing squad will be the fallback method.

A ffiring squad won't apply to the Charlie Kirk shooter unless that exception kicks in.

The average time an inmate now spends on Utah’s death row is nearly 34 years,
a sign of how drawn-out and complex the process has become.

https://kutv.com/news/2news-investigates/utah-moving-away-from-capital-punishment-with-fewer-sentences-executions
Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: hvybarrels on September 16, 2025, 12:28:08 AM
Utah law stopped allowing a sentence of death by firing squad in 2004.  Anyone sentenced before 2004 and who opted for a firing squad is still able to have that option.  All death sentences after 2004 must be by lethal injection.

Exception:  If within 30 days of the execution date the state is unable to obtain the necessary chemicals to properly perform a lethal injection, then a firing squad will be the fallback method.

A ffiring squad won't apply to the Charlie Kirk shooter unless that exception kicks in.

The average time an inmate now spends on Utah’s death row is nearly 34 years,
a sign of how drawn-out and complex the process has become.

https://kutv.com/news/2news-investigates/utah-moving-away-from-capital-punishment-with-fewer-sentences-executions

Charlie was converting to Catholicism so he likely would have been against the death penalty.
Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on September 16, 2025, 12:59:46 AM
Charlie was converting to Catholicism so he likely would have been against the death penalty.

Charlie Kirk’s strong stance on death penalty
resurfaces after Utah assassination

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Late Turning Point USA founder Charlie Kirk advocated for the death penalty
on several occasions, arguing it should apply broadly in murder cases rather
than only in the most extreme circumstances.
   :   :
   :   :
Earlier this year, Kirk discussed his stance on capital punishment during an
exchange with a student captured in a video posted to Turning Point USA’s
YouTube channel. Kirk was asked about how he could support a "limited
government" while also believing it should have the power to execute people.

"I believe in a small but strong government and, for the record, I believe
that someone who took a life should have their life taken," Kirk told the student.


"Under every circumstance?" the student asks Kirk.

"Under most, yeah," Kirk responds.

The student countered that the death penalty should be reserved for extreme
instances, such as school shootings, mass murders and crimes against humanity,
but not for what she described as "eye-for-an-eye nonsense."
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/charlie-kirks-strong-stance-death-penalty-resurfaces-utah-assassination
Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: hvybarrels on September 16, 2025, 01:13:23 AM
Charlie Kirk’s strong stance on death penalty
resurfaces after Utah assassination


"Earlier this year..."

It should be obvious to everyone by now that his stances had changed on a great number of topics in the past six months, and Catholic doctrine is against the death penalty as long as long term confinement is feasable and the community can be kept safe.

They believe every soul deserves the possibility of redemption.



Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: Kalihi Uka on September 16, 2025, 06:09:28 AM
He’s a patsy. You’re watching a scripted tv program designed to squeeze your adrenals into doing something stupid.
All slaves who do as their master commands are of course patsies.

The scripted tv program you refer to began back before there was even human civilization, and you my friend are smack dab in it, whether you choose to recognize it or not.
Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: Kalihi Uka on September 16, 2025, 07:30:18 AM
Utah law stopped allowing a sentence of death by firing squad in 2004.  Anyone sentenced before 2004 and who opted for a firing squad is still able to have that option.  All death sentences after 2004 must be by lethal injection.

Exception:  If within 30 days of the execution date the state is unable to obtain the necessary chemicals to properly perform a lethal injection, then a firing squad will be the fallback method.

A ffiring squad won't apply to the Charlie Kirk shooter unless that exception kicks in.

The average time an inmate now spends on Utah’s death row is nearly 34 years,
a sign of how drawn-out and complex the process has become.

https://kutv.com/news/2news-investigates/utah-moving-away-from-capital-punishment-with-fewer-sentences-executions
Buzzkill
Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: QUIETShooter on September 16, 2025, 08:29:59 AM
If lethal injection is the only form of capital punishment I'd rather these monsters get thrown in prison for life with no parole with an anal rapist as a roommate and the key thrown away.
Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on September 16, 2025, 10:20:45 AM
If lethal injection is the only form of capital punishment I'd rather these monsters get thrown in prison for life with no parole with an anal rapist as a roommate and the key thrown away.
The shooter is 22.  If he confesses or is convicted while he's 22, and the average time spent on death row in Utah is 34 years, he'd be 56 when sentence is carried out.

That's much more time spent incarcerated than he''s already been alive, all while having to anticipate his own death and the reason for his sentence.

So, you're basically getting the benefits of both: a long incarceration AND his unwilling participation in the room temperature challenge.
Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: Rocky on September 16, 2025, 10:34:28 AM
"Earlier this year..."

It should be obvious to everyone by now that his stances had changed on a great number of topics in the past six months, and Catholic doctrine is against the death penalty as long as long term confinement is feasable and the community can be kept safe.

They believe every soul deserves the possibility of redemption.

Exodus 21:23-25 and Deuteronomy 19:21
Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: Kalihi Uka on September 16, 2025, 10:43:35 AM
How the Left Programmed Young People to Hate
BY DAVID BETZ AND MICHAEL RAINSBOROUGH 16 SEPTEMBER 2025 11:45 AM


“Diversity’, ‘equity’ and ‘inclusion’ became less articles of faith than a set of tactics — no longer instruments of compromise but of humiliation, tools by which resentment was stoked and sustained. Generations of students have since been trained to denounce rather than to reason, to persecute rather than to persuade. This is Mao’s Red Guards reconstituted for a digital age: armies of accusation, armed less with AK-47s than with hashtags and HR manuals.

Those who dismiss the ‘culture wars’ as a distraction misunderstand the nature of conflict in our time. The sociologist James Davison Hunter, who coined the phrase three decades ago, cautioned that when disputes cease to be arguments within a shared reality and instead become clashes over what reality itself is, rapprochement is no longer possible. At that point, the logic of civic debate and constitutional politics gives way to the logic of force.

To see all this as a tragic misfortune is deeply mistaken. What has emerged is not spontaneous disorder but a carefully tended culture of antipathy — fertilized by theory, irrigated by resentful passions and sustained by bureaucracies whose survival depends on perpetual conflict.”

https://dailysceptic.org/2025/09/16/how-the-left-programmed-young-people-to-hate/
Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on September 16, 2025, 10:55:58 AM
"Earlier this year..."

It should be obvious to everyone by now that his stances had changed on a great number of topics in the past six months, and Catholic doctrine is against the death penalty as long as long term confinement is feasable and the community can be kept safe.

They believe every soul deserves the possibility of redemption.
Do you assume that every person who adopts a Christian faith must 100% agree with all the opinions of their new faith no matter what?

Or, just like voting, you choose that denomination/church that most closely aligns with your own beliefs and values and accept there are areas in which you may still disagree?

Just because he was in the process of converting doesn't mean he'd actually converted, nor does it mean he changed his long-held opinions in order to conform to the church's.

The Catholic Church's stance on the death penatly has evolved over the past few decades.  it's a moving target that's continually narrowing the cases in which states can morally apply a death sentence.

Many Catholic leaders argue that the church has not changed it's stance on capital punishment generally.  it has only better defined the application of it using concrete historical examples.
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it is important to show, and we do show, that a Catholic may legitimately
support capital punishment. But we go beyond that. We argue that there
really are no good reasons at all to abolish capital punishment, and that
there are compelling reasons to preserve it. Catholics not only may but
ought to support it.
https://www.catholic.com/magazine/print-edition/the-catholic-case-for-capital-punishment
Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: hvybarrels on September 16, 2025, 11:22:32 AM
Just because he was in the process of converting doesn't mean he'd actually converted, nor does it mean he changed his long-held opinions in order to conform to the church's.

He did have a major shift on his opinions regarding Israel, mostly because he was tired of being threatened for questioning their influence on our government.

It's not that big a jump from opposing genocide to opposing capital punishment.
Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on September 16, 2025, 11:50:12 AM
He did have a major shift on his opinions regarding Israel, mostly because he was tired of being threatened for questioning their influence on our government.

It's not that big a jump from opposing genocide to opposing capital punishment.
Did you take a class in Extreme Rhetorical Nonsense?  Nothing is ever slight, minor, reasonable or gradual with you. 

Charlie never opposed capitol punishment, nor was there any genocide occurring in Palestine other than Hamas attacking and killing innocent civilians without provocation.

Quote
Kirk always openly supported Israel. He described this country as the
“front line of Western civilization”. When the US opened its embassy in
Jerusalem in 2018, Kirk was present there and called that visit “eye-opening”.
He also said that his organization would always stand with Israel.
https://news24online.com/world/trump-ally-charlie-kirk-supported-israel-or-palestine/631666/
Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: hvybarrels on September 16, 2025, 12:08:01 PM
You talk like an expert, but you're just some ill-tempered internet rando gatekeeper who believes whatever they are told to believe.
Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on September 16, 2025, 12:25:04 PM
You talk like an expert, but you're just some ill-tempered internet rando gatekeeper who believes whatever they are told to believe.
Wow!  you must have passed that class with honors!

Expert?  seems like you're the one trying to pass yourself off as the SME of anti-US-Emperialism and a hundred other catch phrases.

In your opinion, if I start believing you, then I would be someone "who believes whatever they are told to believe," only it would be what YOU are telling me and not a source you disagree with.  How is that not the same?

And don't say you are getting me to  think for myself.  Why can't I think for myself AND have opinions that oppose yours?  The two are NOT mutually exclusice.
Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on September 16, 2025, 12:33:18 PM
Antifa has been active the whole time. Andy Ngo has been tracking them ever since they gave him permanent brain damage,
Lots of murder and mayhem. Seattle and Portland are their incubators and the police have been instructed not to touch them.

Clearly a significant faction within our government finds them useful, otherwise they would not be allowed to exist.
The feds could roll them up in an afternoon. If they don’t do it soon then someone on the freshly radicalized right is going to step up and do it for them.

Maybe that’s the whole point. Sow chaos. We just haven’t taken the bait yet and the deep state is getting frustrated.
I never said ANTIFA has not been active until now.  What I said was a comparison between different moments in time.

Everything is relative.
Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: hvybarrels on September 16, 2025, 12:34:57 PM
Charlie was turning against Israel and they perceived it as a major threat because they are losing the propaganda war.
The genocide has become too grotesque and one-sided to ignore. Most of the world has turned on them.
Their influence on our government has been decidedly anti-constitutional. Patriots don't like pedo protection rackets.
Their economy is falling apart. If we stopped funding them they would soon be overrun by all the enemies they made.
They specialize in political assassinations and are quite proud of it, regularly showing off their ingenuity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JpBO8hSJaE
Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on September 16, 2025, 05:23:29 PM
Charlie was turning against Israel and they perceived it as a major threat because they are losing the propaganda war.
The genocide has become too grotesque and one-sided to ignore. Most of the world has turned on them.
Their influence on our government has been decidedly anti-constitutional. Patriots don't like pedo protection rackets.
Their economy is falling apart. If we stopped funding them they would soon be overrun by all the enemies they made.
They specialize in political assassinations and are quite proud of it, regularly showing off their ingenuity.
How is this remotely related to the OP?  I posted about Liberals calling for death for conservatives because off our speech and who we vote for.

Now you're going off the deep end (again) with this?

Just stop!!

 :stopjack: :stopjack: :stopjack:
Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on September 16, 2025, 05:32:54 PM
https://youtu.be/unaJSHIjMuA
Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: hvybarrels on September 16, 2025, 08:02:45 PM
Just stop!!

If you’re going to gatekeep then try picking a gate that you actually have some control over.
Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on September 16, 2025, 08:16:20 PM
If you’re going to gatekeep then try picking a gate that you actually have some control over.

If you're going to post the same anti-Israeli BS on every single thread, then you must not think it's a strong enough argument to convince anyone.

You're like those ratchet women we see in videos who sound like a broken record.  Say it loud enough and repeatedly enough, eventually you get someone to give you what you want.

https://youtu.be/7TkaX4Jy7_s
Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: hvybarrels on September 16, 2025, 08:49:17 PM
If you're going to post the same anti-Israeli BS on every single thread, then you must not think it's a strong enough argument to convince anyone.

Don’t worry. This won’t go on indefinitely since Israel probably won’t be around much longer.
Trying to intimidate Charlie was a giant screw up on their part, regardless of who actually sent the hit squad.
It’s eerily similar to the libs who thought they could say all those horrible things and were surprised when they got fired.
Israel thought they could do whatever they wanted without consequences, and now pretty much the entire planet hates them.
Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on September 16, 2025, 10:07:23 PM
Don’t worry. This won’t go on indefinitely since Israel probably won’t be around much longer.
Trying to intimidate Charlie was a giant screw up on their part, regardless of who actually sent the hit squad.
It’s eerily similar to the libs who thought they could say all those horrible things and were surprised when they got fired.
Israel thought they could do whatever they wanted without consequences, and now pretty much the entire planet hates them.

That's a lie.  For example, all G7 nations support Israel.  That alone shoots down the lie that "pretty much the entire planet hates them."

The G7 nations are Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, the United Kingdom, and the United States, along with the European Union as a non-enumerated member.

G7 expresses support for Israel,
calls Iran source of instability

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/g7-expresses-support-israel-calls-iran-source-instability-2025-06-17/
Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: hvybarrels on September 16, 2025, 10:51:22 PM
That's a lie.  For example, all G7 nations support Israel.  That alone shoots down the lie that "pretty much the entire planet hates them."

They g7 countries benefit from having a military base in the Middle East that destabilizes the region in order to control the flow of energy.
When Israel falls our gas prices will go through the roof, and that will wipe out whatever is left of our fake economy.
That’s probably why Trump is trying to protect them until we can invade Venezuela or the arctic. At some point Israel will be cut loose once they no longer serve a purpose, and I genuinely do feel bad for the people who live there and have no idea what’s going on. Hopefully most of them get out in time.

Somehow our nation moved away from Christian values and decided that it’s okay to allow genocide and pedophilia if that’s the cost of holding on to our wealth. Then Charlie came along and reminded everyone what having principles actually looks like and they killed him for it.
Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on September 16, 2025, 11:44:09 PM
They g7 countries benefit from having a military base in the Middle East that destabilizes the region in order to control the flow of energy.
When Israel falls our gas prices will go through the roof, and that will wipe out whatever is left of our fake economy.
That’s probably why Trump is trying to protect them until we can invade Venezuela or the arctic. At some point Israel will be cut loose once they no longer serve a purpose, and I genuinely do feel bad for the people who live there and have no idea what’s going on. Hopefully most of them get out in time.

Somehow our nation moved away from Christian values and decided that it’s okay to allow genocide and pedophilia if that’s the cost of holding on to our wealth. Then Charlie came along and reminded everyone what having principles actually looks like and they killed him for it.
All those words tell me one obvious thing:  you were lying about the whole planet hating Israel and decided to go off on another tangent rather than admit it.

 :wacko:
Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: hvybarrels on September 17, 2025, 02:03:12 AM
All those words tell me one obvious thing:  you were lying about the whole planet hating Israel and decided to go off on another tangent rather than admit it.

You know I’m making good points but your ego is too fragile to admit it.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/sep/16/israel-committed-genocide-in-gaza-says-un-inquiry




Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: changemyoil66 on September 17, 2025, 07:53:03 AM
Charlie Kirk said something along the lines  when asked about Israel and why he supports them over Palestine:  "they aren't' the most righteous, but in the region they are".  With regard that they aren't perfect, as no nation is.  Even the US killed innocents in various wars. 
Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on September 17, 2025, 10:19:40 AM
You know I’m making good points but your ego is too fragile to admit it.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/sep/16/israel-committed-genocide-in-gaza-says-un-inquiry
Fragile ego?  LOL!!!  You still haven't addressed my questions.  Seems like your ego is too fragile for an honest discussion.

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The United Nations independent international commission of inquiry (COI),
which does not speak on behalf of the UN, found that “genocide is occurring
in Gaza and is continuing to occur”, said its head, Navi Pillay.
   .   .
   .   .
The COI, set up by the UN in 2021 and staffed by three independent experts,
cited the killing of civilians and children in a “scorched-earth military strategy”,
starvation and deaths caused by restrictions on food and medicines, mistreatment
of detainees, forced displacement and the physical devastation of much of the
territory to support its finding.
   .   .
   .   .
The independent COI’s analysis is the strongest finding by a UN body to date but
its conclusions do not represent the UN’s official position. The world body itself
has not yet used the term genocide, but is under growing pressure to do so.


If the UN hasn't adopted the report created by 3 so-called experts, then why do you think it carries any weight with anyone else?

This is the definition of grasping at straws.  The 3 experts have demonstrated a clear anti-Israel bias in the past.  No surprise they were selected for this commission.

https://www.camera.org/article/the-un-commission-of-inquiry-what-you-need-to-know/
Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: Rocky on September 17, 2025, 10:43:16 AM
 invade the arctic ?   :wacko:
Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: changemyoil66 on September 17, 2025, 12:17:36 PM
invade the arctic ?   :wacko:

That's impossible.  The governments control the artic circle and won't let just anyone visit.
Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: macsak on September 17, 2025, 12:32:50 PM
wait, you admit that the artic circle exists?
how does that fit with the world being flat???

That's impossible.  The governments control the artic circle and won't let just anyone visit.
Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on September 17, 2025, 12:55:35 PM
wait, you admit that the artic circle exists?
how does that fit with the world being flat???
There's unequivocal proof the world is not flat.

if the world was flat, cats would have already pushed everything off it.

(https://i.imgur.com/bQXbQS7.gif)
Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on September 17, 2025, 01:10:57 PM
Destiny, the moron this thread was started over, has been banned on Twitch.

What's stopping the rest?

https://youtu.be/1eLW2bFfl2Q
Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: Kalihi Uka on September 17, 2025, 01:20:21 PM
There's unequivocal proof the world is not flat.

if the world was flat, cats would have already pushed everything off it.

(https://i.imgur.com/bQXbQS7.gif)
Friggin awesomely funny - thanks!
Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: hvybarrels on September 17, 2025, 01:25:49 PM
That's impossible.  The governments control the artic circle and won't let just anyone visit.

It would most likely be done through Canada once we take Alberta and/or Greenland
Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: Kalihi Uka on September 17, 2025, 01:27:36 PM
Destiny, the moron this thread was started over, has been banned on Twitch.

What's stopping the rest?

https://youtu.be/1eLW2bFfl2Q
His ultimate end on earth is as worm-food, hopefully sooner than he would like, after which he will star in his own cabaret show in Hell called “Buggering Miss Destiny.”

They’re already selling tickets down there.
Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: hvybarrels on September 17, 2025, 01:34:00 PM
invade the arctic ?   :wacko:

That’s the last region of unexploited petroleum reserves. Saudis are almost tapped out and it appears we are about to withdraw from the Eastern hemisphere. If we can get Venezuela it would keep us going for a few more years, but eventually the arctic will be worth fighting over especially now that the climate zones are rapidly moving northward.
Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: hvybarrels on September 17, 2025, 01:38:09 PM
Fragile ego?  LOL!!!  You still haven't addressed my questions.  Seems like your ego is too fragile for an honest discussion.

Can you ask a question without attacking?
Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: Kalihi Uka on September 17, 2025, 01:47:24 PM
The FCC Chairman is threatening immediate action against Jimmy Kimmel, ABC, and Disney for deliberately misleading the public by claiming Charlie Kirk’s assassin was a MAGA Conservative ….

Jimmy Kimmel Suspended 'Indefinitely' After Pushing Charlie Kirk Propaganda

Government appears to be less in Communist hands nowadays!

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/jimmy-kimmel-suspended-indefinitely-after-pushing-charlie-kirk-propaganda


Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: hvybarrels on September 17, 2025, 01:49:47 PM
The FCC Chairman is threatening immediate action against Jimmy Kimmel, ABC, and Disney for deliberately misleading the public by claiming Charlie Kirk’s assassin was a MAGA Conservative ….

Jimmy Kimmel Suspended 'Indefinitely' After Pushing Charlie Kirk Propaganda

Government appears to be less in Communist hands nowadays!

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/jimmy-kimmel-suspended-indefinitely-after-pushing-charlie-kirk-propaganda

An excellent development!

Especially after telling his audience that people like me deserve to die for not getting a Covid shot.
Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on September 17, 2025, 01:51:51 PM
Can you ask a question without attacking?
Can you answer a question without a question or irrelevant tangential deflection?

I guess you forgot my previous post.  Words are not violence, and therefore anything I post is by definition NOT an attack of any kind.
Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: hvybarrels on September 17, 2025, 01:57:19 PM
Can you answer a question without a question or irrelevant tangential deflection?

I guess you forgot my previous post.  Words are not violence, and therefore anything I post is by definition NOT an attack of any kind.


Can you ask a question without attacking?
Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: eyeeatingfish on September 17, 2025, 02:21:47 PM
This IS the Democrat Party now!


No, it isn't. It is a small but vocal chunk of the left.
Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: eyeeatingfish on September 17, 2025, 02:24:35 PM
Why hasn’t Antifa been declared a terrorist organization yet?

Are we giving them a couple weeks to destroy evidence first?

Could it be there is a data trail that connects them with a certain pariah state that specializes in assassinations?

Antifa isn't a specific organization that can be targeted how a group normally would be. There is some level of coordination but there are no unified command structure, by-laws, etc.
Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: hvybarrels on September 17, 2025, 02:37:49 PM
Antifa isn't a specific organization that can be targeted how a group normally would be. There is some level of coordination but there are no unified command structure, by-laws, etc.

(https://media1.tenor.com/m/mTYw14p_uigAAAAC/michael-jackson-eating-popcorn.gif)
Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: Kalihi Uka on September 17, 2025, 04:03:42 PM
No, it isn't. It is a small but vocal chunk of the left.
Really - educate us on the broad based movement that has been afoot in the Democrat party over recent years to rid itself of these violent extremist elements within its ranks.

Not being a smart ass - if you’re going to take up this challenge, don’t post some fragmentary drivel.  Post bona fide organizations publicly targeting this.
Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: changemyoil66 on September 17, 2025, 06:20:34 PM
Antifa isn't a specific organization that can be targeted how a group normally would be. There is some level of coordination but there are no unified command structure, by-laws, etc.

Well, they just were deemed a terrorist organization.
Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on September 18, 2025, 02:52:04 PM
An excellent development!

Especially after telling his audience that people like me deserve to die for not getting a Covid shot.
I think the preemptions are a stepping stone toward cancellation.  They have a contract that needs to be considered.  if the lawyers can find cause for termination, he may be in big trouble.  Not only can his show be cancelled, the network can sue him for breach of contract.  That could put a huge dent in Kimmel's bank account through lawyers, penalties and settlements.

Looking forward to see if he gets everything he deserves.
Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: changemyoil66 on September 18, 2025, 03:45:13 PM
I think the preemptions are a stepping stone toward cancellation.  They have a contract that needs to be considered.  if the lawyers can find cause for termination, he may be in big trouble.  Not only can his show be cancelled, the network can sue him for breach of contract.  That could put a huge dent in Kimmel's bank account through lawyers, penalties and settlements.

Looking forward to see if he gets everything he deserves.

He might not have money. Remember when his kid needed heart surgery or something and he was so glad that obamacare was passed so his kid could get said surgery.  It's like he didn't have the money to pay cash.
Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: hvybarrels on September 18, 2025, 05:11:40 PM
Jimmy's ratings were awful. The cable companies revolted after his comments and this was just a good excuse for Disney to cut their losses while playing the victim card.

Now the wokesters are going after Disney like they did when they set each others Teslas on fire.

It's fabulous to watch, but it also means the entire Hollywood system is effectively dead unless they can drop the politics, hire some decent writers, and start making decent movies and TV again.
Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: eyeeatingfish on September 19, 2025, 11:17:18 PM
Well, they just were deemed a terrorist organization.

Good luck targeting a non-organization organization.
Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: eyeeatingfish on September 19, 2025, 11:24:42 PM
Really - educate us on the broad based movement that has been afoot in the Democrat party over recent years to rid itself of these violent extremist elements within its ranks.

Not being a smart ass - if you’re going to take up this challenge, don’t post some fragmentary drivel.  Post bona fide organizations publicly targeting this.

If you were going to equate the Democrat Party and Antifa I think you should attempt to show that before asking me to prove the negative of that.

The left has their extreme faction just as does the right (proud boys for example). They say and do the most provocative things and they get the most attention.
How would the Democrat party even get rid of Antifa? Does Antifa have a seat at the DNC? Lefty extremists are still going to vote left and are still going to protest the things they believe in.

If democrats were really one and the same as Antifa you wouldn't have dozens or even hundreds clashing with cops, you would have millions.
Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: eyeeatingfish on September 19, 2025, 11:28:51 PM
Jimmy's ratings were awful. The cable companies revolted after his comments and this was just a good excuse for Disney to cut their losses while playing the victim card.


Agree with you there but the bigger problem is the FCC threatening companies over their public speech. Not only should the government not be doing that it just creates more problems. It turns Kimmel into a martyr, opens up the door for a lawsuit against the government, and creates a precedent which can later turn around and bite the right when the left comes to power.
Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on September 19, 2025, 11:51:45 PM
Agree with you there but the bigger problem is the FCC threatening companies over their public speech. Not only should the government not be doing that it just creates more problems. It turns Kimmel into a martyr, opens up the door for a lawsuit against the government, and creates a precedent which can later turn around and bite the right when the left comes to power.
Wrong.

You're parroting what the MSM talking heads are trying to gaslight the public with.

There are about 160 ABC affiliates who decided to implement the preemptive programming and take Kimmel off.  Their reasons had nothing to do with the FCC.  It was because they didn't want to lose their advertisers and because their key market demographic didn't like what Kimmel was spouting off.  It was purely about trying to protect their revenue before the Bud Light Effect took hold.

Yes, the FCC said they were going to investigate, but that doesn't require the networks to stop airing Kimmel in the meatime.

The fact that Kimmel refused to apologize also helped his handlers make the decision.  Again, not an FCC issue.

This video explains it much more thoroughly and provides facts to back up the conclusions.

https://youtu.be/MAsmzL7DLjM

Colbert's show is already cancelled, so whatever he has to say is irrelevant.  He can say whatever, and all the network will do is preempt him too, but they can't fire him twice.

Kimmel's contract is up in a year, so he's probably looking at the same writing on the wall as Colbert:  cancelation.

The country is tired of unfunny political smear shows masquerading as late night comedy.  That's why their ratings are in the sewer.

Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: eyeeatingfish on September 23, 2025, 09:38:20 PM
Wrong.

Nope

Quote
There are about 160 ABC affiliates who decided to implement the preemptive programming and take Kimmel off.  Their reasons had nothing to do with the FCC.  It was because they didn't want to lose their advertisers and because their key market demographic didn't like what Kimmel was spouting off.  It was purely about trying to protect their revenue before the Bud Light Effect took hold.

Were you in the boardrooms listening to their reasons?
If ABC aaffiliates felt it was that bad then let them take action on their own. If they decide to remove him for fear of loss of advertisers then great but once the government steps in you cannot separate that threat from the calculus.

Furthermore, I don't care if ABC decided to axe Kimmel, I care that the government is making threats over speech the administration doesn't like even if ABC didn't care about the threats one bit.

Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: ren on September 23, 2025, 09:53:56 PM
as if...
Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on September 23, 2025, 10:00:32 PM
Nope

Were you in the boardrooms listening to their reasons?
If ABC aaffiliates felt it was that bad then let them take action on their own. If they decide to remove him for fear of loss of advertisers then great but once the government steps in you cannot separate that threat from the calculus.

Furthermore, I don't care if ABC decided to axe Kimmel, I care that the government is making threats over speech the administration doesn't like even if ABC didn't care about the threats one bit.
I didn't have to be in the boardrooms.  I know how to read and how to find reliable, honest sources.

Maybe try watching the video I generously linked giving you the evidence to back up my comments.  It's not like I made it up, and the information didn't require me to be in meetings with almost 160 ABC affiliates.
Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: changemyoil66 on September 24, 2025, 09:16:16 AM
Nope

Were you in the boardrooms listening to their reasons?
If ABC aaffiliates felt it was that bad then let them take action on their own. If they decide to remove him for fear of loss of advertisers then great but once the government steps in you cannot separate that threat from the calculus.

Furthermore, I don't care if ABC decided to axe Kimmel, I care that the government is making threats over speech the administration doesn't like even if ABC didn't care about the threats one bit.

This is all accusations with no proof.  What we do have proof of is Zuck saying in congress that the Brandon admin urged him strongly to censor people.

I guess the FCC changed directions since they reinstated Kimmel. Again showing EEF is wrong.
Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: eyeeatingfish on September 25, 2025, 10:33:31 PM
I didn't have to be in the boardrooms.  I know how to read and how to find reliable, honest sources.

Maybe try watching the video I generously linked giving you the evidence to back up my comments.  It's not like I made it up, and the information didn't require me to be in meetings with almost 160 ABC affiliates.

You said a 160 stations didn't want to lose their advertisers, you know this their actual reason and not just one they are saying to the public? Tim Pool reading a few headlines and ranting isn't exactly proof. Or was Pool in the boardrooms for these meetings?
Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: eyeeatingfish on September 25, 2025, 10:39:48 PM
This is all accusations with no proof.  What we do have proof of is Zuck saying in congress that the Brandon admin urged him strongly to censor people.

I guess the FCC changed directions since they reinstated Kimmel. Again showing EEF is wrong.

What is all accusations? That the FCC chair made the threat? They are on a podcast Carr went on. 

Yes, the government going after Facebook and Google and the Tea Party are all terrible abuses of power. This one just adds to the list. 

If the FCC really changed directions that doesn't prove me right or wrong. Stop being so desperate for fake wins.

Even Ted Cruz is calling Carr out for what he said.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZoXqzPE_Rw
Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: changemyoil66 on September 26, 2025, 08:59:47 AM
What is all accusations? That the FCC chair made the threat? They are on a podcast Carr went on. 



Yes, that's what the thread is about.  Why don't you post the threat that sounds something like "if you don't fire Kimmel, we will shut you down". "Investigating" isn't a threat.  Or are you saying you've threatened people who you were "investigating", if you think an investigation is a threat?
Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on September 26, 2025, 09:03:45 AM
You said a 160 stations didn't want to lose their advertisers, you know this their actual reason and not just one they are saying to the public? Tim Pool reading a few headlines and ranting isn't exactly proof. Or was Pool in the boardrooms for these meetings?
Tim Pool provides links to all his sources.  He doesn't make his facts up -- unlike you.
Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: eyeeatingfish on October 03, 2025, 12:15:29 PM
Yes, that's what the thread is about.  Why don't you post the threat that sounds something like "if you don't fire Kimmel, we will shut you down". "Investigating" isn't a threat.  Or are you saying you've threatened people who you were "investigating", if you think an investigation is a threat?

He clearly isn't an idiot. Smart people don't make public threats that would decisively show them doing something wrong.
Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: eyeeatingfish on October 03, 2025, 12:24:51 PM
Tim Pool provides links to all his sources.  He doesn't make his facts up -- unlike you.

I never make up facts.

Nexstar and Sinclair together own around 70 ABC affiliates and are both in the process of mergers which require approval from the FCC. What a coincidence that the 70 stations that dropped Kimmel's show were also the ones owned by Nexstar and Sinclair.
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/09/23/kimmel-abc-nexstar-sinclair-fcc.html#:~:text=Nexstar%20is%20currently%20seeking%20FCC,exchange%20for%20NFL%20Media%20assets.
Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on October 03, 2025, 01:36:57 PM
I never make up facts.

Nexstar and Sinclair together own around 70 ABC affiliates and are both in the process of mergers which require approval from the FCC. What a coincidence that the 70 stations that dropped Kimmel's show were also the ones owned by Nexstar and Sinclair.
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/09/23/kimmel-abc-nexstar-sinclair-fcc.html#:~:text=Nexstar%20is%20currently%20seeking%20FCC,exchange%20for%20NFL%20Media%20assets.

True.  By definition, stuff you make up are just lies.  Yet, you present them as if they are viable facts.

I didn't read a single threat by the FCC in this article.  Only the writer asserting that one was "implied."  That's an opinion based on an interpretation without direct evidence.

Quote
The FCC didn’t respond to requests for comment this week, however,
Carr took to social media platform X to weigh in earlier on Tuesday.

“On Kimmel, the Democrats are engaged in nothing more than Projection
and Distortion,” Carr said in his post on Tuesday, adding, “Distortion
because Democrats want to blame anything other than Disney and
their local TV stations for Kimmel’s suspension. Those businesses
decided that, in their view, a suspension made sense. The reporting
on this is clear.”

“Notably, this is the first time recently that any local TV stations have
pushed back on a national programmer like Disney. And that is a good
thing because we want empowered local TV stations. After all, local
TV stations—not the national programmers—have public interest
obligations, and they should be making decisions that in their view
meets the needs of their local communities,” Carr posted.
From your link ^^
Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on October 08, 2025, 10:59:21 AM
Man faces hate crime charges over 'hundred plus' explosives,
threats outside cathedral ahead of SCOTUS event

Louis Geri allegedly carried manifesto targeting Catholics, Jews, Supreme Court justices and ICE
Quote
Washington, D.C., police say they arrested a New Jersey man with hundreds
of homemade explosives and a manifesto containing "significant animosity"
toward Catholics, Jews, the U.S. Supreme Court and Immigration and Customs
Enforcement outside a cathedral hours before it was supposed to host an
annual event that some justices were expected to attend.

A Metropolitan Police Department officer found Louis D. Geri, 41, camped out
in a green tent in front of the Cathedral of St. Matthew the Apostle in Washington,
D.C. around 5 a.m. on Sunday.

Police were securing the area ahead of the event, called Red Mass, and they
asked Geri to move his tent, according to an affidavit.

"You might want to stay back and call the federales," Geri is alleged to have told
an officer, according to the document filed in Washington's criminal court. "I have
explosives..."
https://www.foxnews.com/us/man-faces-hate-crime-charges-hundred-plus-explosives-threats-cathedral-ahead-scotus-event
Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: eyeeatingfish on October 08, 2025, 12:43:02 PM
True.  By definition, stuff you make up are just lies.  Yet, you present them as if they are viable facts.

I didn't read a single threat by the FCC in this article.  Only the writer asserting that one was "implied."  That's an opinion based on an interpretation without direct evidence.
From your link ^^

As I said earlier, smart people don't make threats directly, they wrap them in plausible deniability. But for the sake of argument, lets say you are right, the FCC chairman's weren't an actual threat, it is still an abuse of power, the federal government flexing its muscle for the sake of the president's authoritarian tendencies.

I can give you the pieces of the puzzle, I can't force you to put them together to see the picture they make. Ted Cruz clearly sees it and no way he's some whiny liberal


Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: changemyoil66 on October 08, 2025, 08:56:24 PM
He clearly isn't an idiot. Smart people don't make public threats that would decisively show them doing something wrong.
Hahahhaa. Typical answer i expected.

Sent from my SM-G991U using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on October 08, 2025, 10:29:24 PM
As I said earlier, smart people don't make threats directly, they wrap them in plausible deniability. But for the sake of argument, lets say you are right, the FCC chairman's weren't an actual threat, it is still an abuse of power, the federal government flexing its muscle for the sake of the president's authoritarian tendencies.

I can give you the pieces of the puzzle, I can't force you to put them together to see the picture they make. Ted Cruz clearly sees it and no way he's some whiny liberal
So, your evidence that the FCC chair made a threat is there is none, because the FCC chair is smart?

There are no pieces to the puzzle that demonstrate a threat of any sort on the part of the FCC toward ABC or its affiliates.

Prove me wrong.

"it is still an abuse of power, the federal government flexing its muscle for the sake of the president's authoritarian tendencies. "

HOW is it an abuse off power?  Go read what the FCC's duties are and get back to me.
Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: eyeeatingfish on October 09, 2025, 12:28:30 PM
Hahahhaa. Typical answer i expected.

Sent from my SM-G991U using Tapatalk

What a coincidence, yours is also a typical answer I expected. (Substanceless)
Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: eyeeatingfish on October 09, 2025, 12:33:06 PM
So, your evidence that the FCC chair made a threat is there is none, because the FCC chair is smart?

There are no pieces to the puzzle that demonstrate a threat of any sort on the part of the FCC toward ABC or its affiliates.

Prove me wrong.

"it is still an abuse of power, the federal government flexing its muscle for the sake of the president's authoritarian tendencies. "

HOW is it an abuse off power?  Go read what the FCC's duties are and get back to me.

stop being obstinate, I know you are not dumb. You know very well threats can be made without wording it in a way that is a clear threat.

It is an abuse of power because the power is being levied in a way that it never was and is being done for the interest of the president. Ted Cruz can see it, why can't you?

Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on October 09, 2025, 12:59:03 PM
stop being obstinate, I know you are not dumb. You know very well threats can be made without wording it in a way that is a clear threat.

It is an abuse of power because the power is being levied in a way that it never was and is being done for the interest of the president. Ted Cruz can see it, why can't you?
No threat = no abuse of power.

How is the FCC holding ABC's feet to the fire about LIES and DEMONIZING ACCUSATIONS made by Jimmy Kimmel being done in the interest off the President?  He's not the only person about whom Kimmel lied and made accusations regarding Charlie Kirk's assassination.  if the post office lowered stamp prices tomorrow by 25 cents, you'd swear it was done to benefit Trump, even though everyone who mails a letter is also benefitting.

Who said the FCC has never done this before?

7 of the Biggest FCC Fines of All Time
Quote
In 1934, the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) was established
to “regulate interstate and international communications by radio, television,
wire, satellite, and cable. The FCC’s jurisdiction covers the 50 states, the
District of Columbia, and U.S. possessions.”

In the early days of radio, the FCC’s major weapon for deterring indecency
was to revoke broadcast licenses. This meant that radio stations and their a
dvertisers had to create their own censorship standards to ensure they didn’t
ruffle the FCC’s feathers and get their station pulled from the airwaves.

That was then, and this is now. Today, the FCC levies fines against broadcasters
who air indecent content over the air. In fact, the FCC first started using fines
as a deterrent in 1975 when they fined radio broadcaster Pacifica Foundation
for airing comedian George Carlin’s “Seven words you can’t say on
television” routine.

But the FCC doesn’t just dole out fines for airing offensive content. They have
a whole set of rules that affect everyone from TV broadcasters to phone companies,
and they’re willing to fine anyone who steps out of line.

Check out these 7 super-sized FCC fines.

1. Univision is fined $24 million for lack of children’s shows
2. Qwest gets slapped with $9 million fine for thwarting competition
3. Univision pays another $1 million for accepting payment to play recording artists
4. Without a Trace’s teen orgy scene prompts $3.6 million fine for CBS
5. Super Bowl wardrobe malfunction earns CBS a $550,000 fine
6. Bubba the Love Sponge’s shows draw $755,000 fine against Clear Channel
7. FCC fines lead Howard Stern to satellite radio—In 1995, Infinity Broadcasting paid $1.7 million for various violations by Stern. Nearly 10 years later, the broadcast company was paying hundreds of thousands more for other indecency fines from Howard Stern’s broadcasts. All of these fines led to Stern’s departure from Clear Channel, causing him to join uncensored satellite radio.

Howard Stern iand George Carlin are direct proof that the FCC has gone after broadcasters for the things comedians said on their stations.
Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: changemyoil66 on October 09, 2025, 01:03:22 PM
What a coincidence, yours is also a typical answer I expected. (Substanceless)

Nice try. Thanks for playing like usual.
Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: Kalihi Uka on October 11, 2025, 07:32:19 AM
Back to the original theme of this thread - this leading Communist just fled to Europe.  The clip seems to be a great look into this terrorist movement within our borders - especially for those who don’t yet get that they openly contemplate armed insurgency - they do, and this guy makes it explicit:

For years, Rutgers professor Mark Bray, author of Antifa: The Anti-Fascist Handbook, has openly defended political violence as part of “anti-fascist resistance.” In a recent interview, he even admitted that violence is “one of the tools in the toolbox.”

https://x.com/thestustustudio/status/1976288827250442438?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1976288827250442438%7Ctwgr%5E6eb415ac7b7c8745eb6092bc35fc8045aaff6cc3%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.zerohedge.com%2Fpolitical%2Fantifas-mask-slips-trumps-roundtable-sends-shadow-ngo-network-behind-riot-inc-panic


Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: hvybarrels on October 11, 2025, 10:56:33 AM
So it turns out Antifa is supported by taxpayer money laundered through the homeless industrial complex.

Liberal cities create policies to promote homelessness and then divert federal funding designated to fix the problem to the Democratic Party Brownshirt Brigades.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/antifas-mask-slips-trumps-roundtable-sends-shadow-ngo-network-behind-riot-inc-panic
Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on October 11, 2025, 03:21:21 PM
Whether or not their words are made public with actual evidence, the party of slavery and systemic racism thinks political violence is not only justified, but more of it would go a long way toward solving the nation's problems.

Jay Jones -- running for Virginia Attorney General
Member of the Virginia House of Delegates from the 89th district,
In office January 10, 2018 – January 2, 2022

Texts from 2022 have been made public where Jones says his GOP opponent and his kids should die.

Quote
“Three people, two bullets,” Jones wrote in a text to
House Delegate Carrie Coyner (R) about Gilbert.

“Gilbert, hitler, and pol pot,” Jones wrote. “Gilbert gets
two bullets to the head.”

“Spoiler: put Gilbert in the crew with the two worst
people you know and he receives both bullets every
time,” Jones told Coyner.

Coyner, in response, told Jones, who at the time did
not hold an elected office, to stop.
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5541374-jay-jones-text-scandal/

Then, the Democrat candidate for Governor, Abigail Spanberger, refused during a live debate to withdraw her endorsement of Jones for AG after multiple attempts to get an answer.

The Democrats as a party are evil and will do anything for power.  The people who support them may be moral and good in their own lives, but when they keep these people in power in spite of evidence against them, they are no better than the evil politicians themselves.

That's why political violence is not off the table for Dems.  They will almost always lose in the arena of ideas and fair dialogue, so they have a backup plan -- violence against the opposition.  They are no different than Communist and Socialist leaders we've seen for a century.  In their world, if you can't beat them, eliminate them.

https://youtu.be/2STMYt85gO8
Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on October 11, 2025, 03:44:19 PM
https://youtu.be/a3R4lJtcsgo
Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: Kalihi Uka on October 11, 2025, 04:09:01 PM

The Democrats as a party are evil and will do anything for power.  The people who support them may be moral and good in their own lives, but when they keep these people in power in spite of evidence against them, they are no better than the evil politicians themselves.

Absolutely true, and every non-comatose Dem knows it too.  They are absolutely complicit.  It’s a grave mistake to give them a free pass.  The ones that seem nice are just the passive/aggressive ones.
Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on October 11, 2025, 06:51:58 PM
Using laser pointers to blind military and police helicopter pilots? 

Blocking streets to protest Conservatives/Republicans without any permits preventing fire, police and ambulance drivers from answering emergency calls?

How is any of this not terrorism?  it's purely political.


https://youtu.be/hh3VFDu9f4o
Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: Kalihi Uka on October 11, 2025, 08:26:17 PM
THIS JUST IN - THER IS NO ANTIFA

Our enemy is composed of bots

https://x.com/tomselliott/status/1976770817544376686?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1976770817544376686%7Ctwgr%5Ec8846709eae5c35e0ffd0835c0dfd7b680a9d953%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.zerohedge.com%2Fpolitical%2Fwatch-msm-puppets-receive-new-talking-point-directive-amid-info-war
Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on October 11, 2025, 08:37:33 PM
THIS JUST IN - THER IS NO ANTIFA

Our enemy is composed of bots

https://x.com/tomselliott/status/1976770817544376686?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1976770817544376686%7Ctwgr%5Ec8846709eae5c35e0ffd0835c0dfd7b680a9d953%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.zerohedge.com%2Fpolitical%2Fwatch-msm-puppets-receive-new-talking-point-directive-amid-info-war

https://x.com/LouisTheRed12/status/1976889078571581524
Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: eyeeatingfish on October 14, 2025, 01:04:44 PM
No threat = no abuse of power.

I disagree.


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How is the FCC holding ABC's feet to the fire about LIES and DEMONIZING ACCUSATIONS made by Jimmy Kimmel being done in the interest off the President? 

Authoritarians tend to not like being criticized. He sued CBS, now he is in a position to wield power through law, not just a lawsuit. This is a clear message to be careful about what you say about that side. It's not like he went after a news source either, he went after a comedian. Here is way to test whether this really is about some interest of Trump to have accurate news: If Trump starts going after right leaning broadcast news for lies as he does the left then we can see it is fair and about the truth.

Aside from that, it's a huge irony that Trump cares about truth telling when he tells more lies than hairs on his head.


He's not the only person about whom Kimmel lied and made accusations regarding Charlie Kirk's assassination.  if the post office lowered stamp prices tomorrow by 25 cents, you'd swear it was done to benefit Trump, even though everyone who mails a letter is also benefitting.

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Who said the FCC has never done this before?

Note that none of those were political.
Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on October 14, 2025, 01:20:36 PM
I disagree.
And that's where you chose to leave it.  You were so convincing, I'm sure everyone reading that comment is considering changing their stance to join yours.


Authoritarians tend to not like being criticized. He sued CBS, now he is in a position to wield power through law, not just a lawsuit. This is a clear message to be careful about what you say about that side. It's not like he went after a news source either, he went after a comedian. Here is way to test whether this really is about some interest of Trump to have accurate news: If Trump starts going after right leaning broadcast news for lies as he does the left then we can see it is fair and about the truth.

Aside from that, it's a huge irony that Trump cares about truth telling when he tells more lies than hairs on his head.
Name a contemporary president who did like being criticized.


He's not the only person about whom Kimmel lied and made accusations regarding Charlie Kirk's assassination.  if the post office lowered stamp prices tomorrow by 25 cents, you'd swear it was done to benefit Trump, even though everyone who mails a letter is also benefitting.

Note that none of those were political.
Kimmel is the one who chose to lie about a political topic.  don't blame the FCC for that.  If he'd lied about COVID vaccine data or transgender reassignment surgery success rates, they would still be lies that can harm the public.

In your world, if I run a red light and get stopped, the cop should not issue me a ticket if I argue that the only reason he stopped me was political -- like the bumper and window stickers I have on the vehicle, or the political apparel I have on.

To you, the broadcaster is somehow insulated from consequences because the lies had to do with a political party and MAGA.  That's insane.

Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: eyeeatingfish on October 14, 2025, 03:13:42 PM
And that's where you chose to leave it.  You were so convincing, I'm sure everyone reading that comment is considering changing their stance to join yours.

I made my case, you remain unconvinced or unable to admit you were convinced. I see no point in more effort to try and change your mind.


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Name a contemporary president who did like being criticized.

What other president is taking steps to silence the criticism of them?


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Kimmel is the one who chose to lie about a political topic.  don't blame the FCC for that.  If he'd lied about COVID vaccine data or transgender reassignment surgery success rates, they would still be lies that can harm the public.
In your world, if I run a red light and get stopped, the cop should not issue me a ticket if I argue that the only reason he stopped me was political -- like the bumper and window stickers I have on the vehicle, or the political apparel I have on.
To you, the broadcaster is somehow insulated from consequences because the lies had to do with a political party and MAGA.  That's insane.

If the cop only ever stopped speeders with bumper stickers criticizing the mayor would you be ok with that? If you were speeding you were speeding right?
Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: macsak on October 14, 2025, 03:24:08 PM
biden white house colluded with social media to take down anti-vaxx posts...

I made my case, you remain unconvinced or unable to admit you were convinced. I see no point in more effort to try and change your mind.


What other president is taking steps to silence the criticism of them?



If the cop only ever stopped speeders with bumper stickers criticizing the mayor would you be ok with that? If you were speeding you were speeding right?
Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on October 14, 2025, 03:32:39 PM
I made my case, you remain unconvinced or unable to admit you were convinced. I see no point in more effort to try and change your mind.


What other president is taking steps to silence the criticism of them?
Obama’s legacy: The trashing of free speech
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Also that year the Committee to Protect Journalists released a report titled “The Obama Administration and the Press,” which began with this paragraph: 
“U.S. President Barack Obama came into office pledging open government, but he has fallen short of his promise. Journalists and transparency advocates say the White House curbs routine disclosure of information and deploys its own media to evade scrutiny by the press. Aggressive prosecution of leakers of classified information and broad electronic surveillance programs deter government sources from speaking to journalists.”
https://thehill.com/homenews/287426-obamas-legacy-the-trashing-of-free-speech/
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If the cop only ever stopped speeders with bumper stickers criticizing the mayor would you be ok with that? If you were speeding you were speeding right?
Swooooosh!
That was my point, but you seem to think it's only political if Trump's FCC chair enforces the rules.

Do you have any evidence the Trump FCC only targets liberals?  You know, the same way the Obama IRS almost only approved liberal applications for 401 status while sitting on Conservative organizations' applications so they were hamstrung in their fundraising just ahead of a national election?

Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: eyeeatingfish on October 16, 2025, 01:26:46 PM
biden white house colluded with social media to take down anti-vaxx posts...

And was that acceptable to you?
Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: eyeeatingfish on October 16, 2025, 01:28:38 PM

Do you have any evidence the Trump FCC only targets liberals?  You know, the same way the Obama IRS almost only approved liberal applications for 401 status while sitting on Conservative organizations' applications so they were hamstrung in their fundraising just ahead of a national election?[/color][/b]

So why is it wrong when Obama engaged in this behavior but not when Trump does it?
Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on October 16, 2025, 01:30:44 PM
So why is it wrong when Obama engaged in this behavior but not when Trump does it?
If Trump were engaging in this behavior, it would be wrong.

Your question is not based on facts.

Trump is not doing what Obama did.
Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: eyeeatingfish on October 16, 2025, 01:38:34 PM
If Trump were engaging in this behavior, it would be wrong.

Your question is not based on facts.

Trump is not doing what Obama did.

It's close enough to be comparable.
Title: Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on October 16, 2025, 02:02:36 PM
It's close enough to be comparable.
Based on no facts -- only your feelings.