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Tools and Uses => Firearms and Accessories => Topic started by: stangzilla on September 29, 2025, 07:28:35 AM
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revolvers win again :geekdanc:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqdnxeWxVdI&t=520s
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Yes, you can carry a revolver with full confidence, all the way around,
and …
modern revolvers are generally gorgeous baby!
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Just practice with whatever your choice is.
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Just practice with whatever your choice is.
Well, I guess this is as far as our little revolver parade is going to get.
We ran into some rain ;)
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Well, I guess this is as far as our little revolver parade is going to get.
We ran into some rain ;)
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I had a sw m19 that broke twice.
I had a sw m29 that broke once.
I had a super blackhawk that hurt like hell...until I got rid of it. :rofl:
Yesterday, I shot a Taurus 9mm revolver that had difficulty hitting paper at the 25 yd range. :(
I had to adjust the sights all the way to the right, and it was still shooting about 8 in. left. :(
Generally, revolvers are pickier about what ammo you feed them...the point of impact changes.
I would have no problem CCW with a revolver, but it would need to be thoroughly vetted first...i.e. practice with it.
The same goes for any gun you pick.
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I had a sw m19 that broke twice.
I had a sw m29 that broke once.
I had a super blackhawk that hurt like hell...until I got rid of it. :rofl:
Yesterday, I shot a Taurus 9mm revolver that had difficulty hitting paper at the 25 yd range. :(
I had to adjust the sights all the way to the right, and it was still shooting about 8 in. left. :(
Generally, revolvers are pickier about what ammo you feed them...the point of impact changes.
I would have no problem CCW with a revolver, but it would need to be thoroughly vetted first...i.e. practice with it.
The same goes for any gun you pick.
The first revolver I bought 20 something years ago was an sw 610 in 10mm. This was back when sw had serious quality control issues.
Not knowing how to properly check revolver timing, I took it to the range. Couldn’t figure out why the cylinder was between stops after each round….
Finally realized that it came from the factory without being properly fitted, I.e. timing of cylinder lockup completely off. So I bought Kuhnhausen’s manual and completely rebuilt it - and that’s when I became a true believer in revolvers: Must be hand fitted and timed, and it’s such a beautiful clockwork mechanism, that once done, is essentially perfect.
DA trigger pull on a properly fitted revolver is perfectly smooth and consistent from start to sear release: There is no take-up to some resistance point that must be broken. It is just one, continuous motion, to shot break - this is seldom discussed, but it has form/mental advantages for the marksman.
My revolvers are 100% reliable always, and more accurate than any human is.
As I acquire the target and start the gears turning, know everything going on in there - can feel it all working together, and I have absolute confidence it will go exactly where it’s pointed at, every.single.time.
There is no ballistic compromise with a revolver when it comes to ammunition - no concern whatsoever about cycling - you choose the round that is correct for you with respect to terminal ballistics, etc., no limits.
A modern revolver is ready to fire always, and in between times is as inert with respect to discharge as ammo in a box.
In .357 Mag, nowadays you get 8 rounds in the cylinder, and various options for fast reload if you’re obsessed about such things.
A semiauto is not up to most of these things, period.
That’s just how it is - so not going to concede one damn bit of it, and super glad I know it.
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rule of three's in a civilian defensive gun fight:
3 shots at 3 yards lasting 3 seconds
you probably not even going line up the sights at 3 yards
with 3 shots you not going need to reload
at 3 yards you probably will hit something on the other guy. maybe center mass, maybe a shoulder, head, leg, etc as long as you have practice with that revolver
if you're in bear country, a big bore revolver is what you want. although a 10mm semiauto will work too
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for conceal carry, how many people actually carry an extra mag or 2 or a speedloader with them?
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rule of three's in a civilian defensive gun fight:
3 shots at 3 yards lasting 3 seconds
you probably not even going line up the sights at 3 yards
with 3 shots you not going need to reload
at 3 yards you probably will hit something on the other guy. maybe center mass, maybe a shoulder, head, leg, etc as long as you have practice with that revolver
if you're in bear country, a big bore revolver is what you want. although a 10mm semiauto will work too
Right. If you’re a semiauto guy, throw racking the slide in there first while you’re seeking to avoid being killed ….
… or just be comfortable walking around all day with a gun whose striker desperately wants to mate with a primer dead ahead of it, but just can’t quite make it.
No fucking thanks.
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why revolver beats semiauto at kokohead:
at 25 yards I can shoot my revolvers more accurately. longer sight radius with a 6 or 7.5 inch barrel
in single action the trigger is much better
much easier to collect the brass. no need bring brass catcher
and just in general, revolvers have no FTF, FTE, and no magazine issues
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Right. If you’re a semiauto guy, throw racking the slide in there first while you’re seeking to avoid being killed ….
… or just be comfortable walking around all day with a gun whose striker desperately wants to mate with a primer dead ahead of it, but just can’t quite make it.
No fucking thanks.
That's weird. When I took a 5 day defensive handgun class at FrontSight, I was able to walk around open carrying. At the end of the day, eager to get beck to the hotel, I'd stop at the closest gas & convenience store on the way and fill up, grab some refreshments, and hit the road. Every one of the students that stopped there after class was still open carrying as far as I could tell.
Nobody in my class, nor anybody in that store, had a problem with a holstered or unholstered semi-auto, and i guarantee you everyone had a chambered round. In class, you don't have time to rack the slide during the live fire exercises. Some were timed. Others were complicated enough you didn't want to waste time hoping your round was fed properly before starting to fire. Not a single ND going from holster to firing the entire 5 days. And no one, not even the employees s at that store, showed any negative attention to a bunch of armed people milling around looking for Gatorade and Twinkies.
BTW, i used my not-even-broken-in-yet SIG SAUER P320 to expend almost an entire 1,000 rd case of 9mm. It should have been half that, but I was in a class with an odd number of students. It seemed like i was the only attendee without a friend or relative to pair with, so I got to shoot all the exercises twice. I am so glad i remembered to bring my Uplula speed loader! Trying to keep my mags topped off was the biggest challenge. When you have a partner, you can reload mags while they are shooting.
Anyway, i look at it as a risk A vs. risk B question. This decision assumes you have settled on carrying a semi-auto. You're choosing to risk getting harmed or unalived while trying to rack your slide without causing a malfunction. The alternative is you are not risking a negligent discharge because you are not "comfortable walking around all day with a gun." i see the argument from both sides, However, i never had to unholster my firearm while just walking around. if you don't trust the gun to not fire when you don't want it to, how can you trust it to fire when you do need it to? Same tool. Either you trust it, or you don't.
You sound like you'd be better off with a SIG P226 or a 1911 (you can get a 1911 in 9mm, if we are staying in that neighborhood). Depending on the revolver, it would not weigh that much less than a P226. Do they even make polymer revolvers? ???
The P226 is not striker fired. You can carry with the hammer uncocked so the trigger is harder to pull but still able to get off a double-action first shot. You chamber a round and easily de-cock the hammer. This SIG P226 has a decocking lever, so it's safe to bring the hammer forward with a round in the chamber. That setup is no different than a DA/SA revolver with all cylinders loaded. IF, however, you leave a chamber empty so your first shot is always a dry-fire, you're giving yourself one fewer chances to get out of a bad situation.
The P226 is also all metal, which makes it a much better compliance persuader than any polymer framed pistol.
I'm only posting this so your comments don't convince others that carrying a striker-fired semi-auto in condition 0 [zero] is totally unsafe and that there is no other option for carrying a semi-auto besides striker-fired. Safety in condition 0 comes down to familiarity and training with your carry gun -- and obviously one that you can trust not to fire while holstered. I still trust the first P320 I bought, but I'm not sure about more recent batches.
why revolver beats semiauto at kokohead:
at 25 yards I can shoot my revolvers more accurately. longer sight radius with a 6 or 7.5 inch barrel
in single action the trigger is much better
much easier to collect the brass. no need bring brass catcher
and just in general, revolvers have to FTF, FTE, and no magazine issues
Key phrase: at Kokohead.
Different factors to consider when choosing a concealed carry weapon.
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I would have no problem CCW with a revolver, but it would need to be thoroughly vetted first...i.e. practice with it.
Sorry - it’s this attitude (nothing personal old fart - not bitching about you) respect to the semi/revolver question that gets me.
What many don’t understand is that most revolver fans came into the scene as semiauto fans - everyone is somewhat programmed that way coming into the sport/hobby/discipline. It’s only after they learn a bit, open their thinking a bit, that they realize semiautos are not the be all and end all of defensive firearms - but it’s already cost them a lot of $$$ to find out.
Semiautos as open carry sidearms in LE & Military - no question.
But it’s very much the opposite for civilian concealed carry. Revolvers have the upper hand with respect to reliability, safety, and instant lethality.
It’s always worth it to push back against narratives/notions that do not reflect reality as well as they could - and this is one of those.
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That's weird. When I took a 5 day defensive handgun class at FrontSight, I was able to walk around open carrying. At the end of the day, eager to get beck to the hotel, I'd stop at the closest gas & convenience store on the way and fill up, grab some refreshments, and hit the road. Every one of the students that stopped there after class was still open carrying as far as I could tell.
Nobody in my class, nor anybody in that store, had a problem with a holstered or unholstered semi-auto, and i guarantee you everyone had a chambered round. In class, you don't have time to rack the slide during the live fire exercises. Some were timed. Others were complicated enough you didn't want to waste time hoping your round was fed properly before starting to fire. Not a single ND going from holster to firing the entire 5 days. And no one, not even the employees s at that store, showed any negative attention to a bunch of armed people milling around looking for Gatorade and Twinkies.
BTW, i used my not-even-broken-in-yet SIG SAUER P320 to expend almost an entire 1,000 rd case of 9mm. It should have been half that, but I was in a class with an odd number of students. It seemed like i was the only attendee without a friend or relative to pair with, so I got to shoot all the exercises twice. I am so glad i remembered to bring my Uplula speed loader! Trying to keep my mags topped off was the biggest challenge. When you have a partner, you can reload mags while they are shooting.
Anyway, i look at it as a risk A vs. risk B question. This decision assumes you have settled on carrying a semi-auto. You're choosing to risk getting harmed or unalived while trying to rack your slide without causing a malfunction. The alternative is you are not risking a negligent discharge because you are not "comfortable walking around all day with a gun." i see the argument from both sides, However, i never had to unholster my firearm while just walking around. if you don't trust the gun to not fire when you don't want it to, how can you trust it to fire when you do need it to? Same tool. Either you trust it, or you don't.
You sound like you'd be better off with a SIG P226 or a 1911 (you can get a 1911 in 9mm, if we are staying in that neighborhood). Depending on the revolver, it would not weigh that much less than a P226. Do they even make polymer revolvers? ???
The P226 is not striker fired. You can carry with the hammer uncocked so the trigger is harder to pull but still able to get off a double-action first shot. You chamber a round and easily de-cock the hammer. This SIG P226 has a decocking lever, so it's safe to bring the hammer forward with a round in the chamber. That setup is no different than a DA/SA revolver with all cylinders loaded. IF, however, you leave a chamber empty so your first shot is always a dry-fire, you're giving yourself one fewer chances to get out of a bad situation.
The P226 is also all metal, which makes it a much better compliance persuader than any polymer framed pistol.
I'm only posting this so your comments don't convince others that carrying a striker-fired semi-auto in condition 0 [zero] is totally unsafe and that there is no other option for carrying a semi-auto besides striker-fired. Safety in condition 0 comes down to familiarity and training with your carry gun -- and obviously one that you can trust not to fire while holstered. I still trust the first P320 I bought, but I'm not sure about more recent batches.
Key phrase: at Kokohead.
Different factors to consider when choosing a concealed carry weapon.
Look, nothing you’ve said here changes the fact that “one in the tube” means the firearm is ready to fire and is prevented from doing so by mechanical safeties - some, on some pistols, you must also manually articulate before firing.
You’re cool with living in that reality in CCW.
It doesn’t exist for me - and I give up NOTHING THAT MATTERS for that,
… but you are welcome to it!
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Look, nothing you’ve said here changes the fact that “one in the tube” means the firearm is ready to fire and is prevented from doing so by mechanical safeties - some, on some pistols, you must also manually articulate before firing.
You’re cool with living in that reality in CCW.
It doesn’t exist for me - and I give up NOTHING THAT MATTERS for that,
… but you are welcome to it!
You know what's one of the most common mistakes when drawing a semi-auto? Accidentally pressing the mag release button while trying to establish your grip.
With one in the chamber, you still have a chance. if that chamber is empty, all your chances are either on the ground or failing to feed because the mag's not seated all the way.
I'm focused on the purpose for carrying. When I draw, it won't be as a warning. I want and expect an immediate "BANG!"
Your focus is a bit different, which doesn't mean it's wrong. The vast majority of pistol packing people will never have an occasion to draw, but they have a gun on them (hopefully) every day when out and about. Odds of trying to defend yourself and having something go wrong? Depends on the pistol and what safeties are involved.
As far as articulating safeties, that's where the practice comes in. I had a 1911 shooter next to me in that class, and he could draw and fire as quickly as i could with a striker-fired P320 and no manual safeties. He carried in condition 1.
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Key phrase: at Kokohead.
Different factors to consider when choosing a concealed carry weapon.
yes, I agree.with you
that's why my carry pistol is a P365. it's small, light weight, has red dot and night sights, holds 10 rounds, more if we are able to use the larger mags. and mine has the external safety which I like bc I carry in a fanny pack bc it's more comfortable for me to carry that way
at home I'll carry my LCR with night sight in a OWB kydex holster when I do yard work, or bbq, or smoke a cigar outside. its even lighter than the P365. sometimes I forget it's there
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I'm focused on the purpose for carrying. When I draw, it won't be as a warning. I want and expect an immediate "BANG!"
Your focus is a bit different, which doesn't mean it's wrong.
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I’m really confused by this, as this is exactly the point I’m making: Bang, first time every time when in the gravest extreme, no possibility of Bang otherwise unless YOU cause it by accident or mistake. Revolvers more completely epitomize this characteristic mechanically, in their design. In semiauto, Glock probably comes closest to this simplicity. The firing pin channel block in the slide is the first and most secure safety preventing the striker from making it to the primer. Modern revolvers have a steel hammer block, but then, the hammer isn’t cocked anyway, as the firing pin is in the Glock.
This horse is waaaay past dead. You can tell when there seems to be differing opinions, but folks are apparently saying the same damn thing, back and forth!
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yes, I agree.with you
that's why my carry pistol is a P365. it's small, light weight, has red dot and night sights, holds 10 rounds, more if we are able to use the larger mags. and mine has the external safety which I like bc I carry in a fanny pack bc it's more comfortable for me to carry that way
at home I'll carry my LCR with night sight in a OWB kydex holster when I do yard work, or bbq, or smoke a cigar outside. its even lighter than the P365. sometimes I forget it's there
You’re carrying even when home smoking a stogie outside? Where you live, Beirut? Chicago? Here in Kalihi?
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You’re carrying even when home smoking a stogie outside? Where you live, Beirut? Chicago? Here in Kalihi?
I live in the mean streets of Kaimuki. Lol.
gotta stay ready :shaka:
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mean streets of 96816...
:geekdanc:
You’re carrying even when home smoking a stogie outside? Where you live, Beirut? Chicago? Here in Kalihi?
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I live in the mean streets of Kaimuki. Lol.
gotta stay ready :shaka:
Oh Palolo den
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mean streets of 96816...
:geekdanc:
Yeah get all those gangs at St. Patrick & Sacred Hearts …
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I’m really confused by this, as this is exactly the point I’m making: Bang, first time every time when in the gravest extreme, no possibility of Bang otherwise unless YOU cause it by accident or mistake. Revolvers more completely epitomize this characteristic mechanically, in their design. In semiauto, Glock probably comes closest to this simplicity. The firing pin channel block in the slide is the first and most secure safety preventing the striker from making it to the primer. Modern revolvers have a steel hammer block, but then, the hammer isn’t cocked anyway, as the firing pin is in the Glock.
This horse is waaaay past dead. You can tell when there seems to be differing opinions, but folks are apparently saying the same damn thing, back and forth!
i'm still not sure what you are saying. Are you stating there are no semi-autos that are as safe to carry as a modern revolver unless it has a manual safety?
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i'm still not sure what you are saying. Are you stating there are no semi-autos that are as safe to carry as a modern revolver unless it has a manual safety?
No, nothing of the kind. Obviously also not talking about SA DA semiautos which happen to use a slide to load the next round instead of a cylinder, and function exactly like a revolver for the purposes of this discussion, I.e. ready to fire immediately upon presentation without hammer / striker having already been cocked and prevented from release by some form of safety.
Ok? So again, I’m talking specifically about this:
Look, nothing you’ve said here changes the fact that “one in the tube” means the firearm is ready to fire and is prevented from doing so by mechanical safeties - some, on some pistols, you must also manually articulate before firing.
You’re cool with living in that reality in CCW.
It doesn’t exist for me - and I give up NOTHING THAT MATTERS for that,
… but you are welcome to it!
Alternately, you are free to argue that ALL semiautos are simpler in design and complexity, are safer with respect to AD’s, and are more reliable in terms of function, than modern revolvers - and will unfailingly meet these criteria while digesting any load in its caliber - and there are ample numbers of semiautos that will accept magnum loadings, and function just the same.
Heading to the bar now, suggest you do the same.
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No, nothing of the kind. Obviously also not talking about SA DA semiautos which happen to use a slide to load the next round instead of a cylinder, and function exactly like a revolver for the purposes of this discussion, I.e. ready to fire immediately upon presentation without hammer / striker having already been cocked and prevented from release by some form of safety.
Ok? So again, I’m talking specifically about this:
Alternately, you are free to argue that ALL semiautos are simpler in design and complexity, are safer with respect to AD’s, and are more reliable in terms of function, than modern revolvers - and will unfailingly meet these criteria while digesting any load in its caliber - and there are ample numbers of semiautos that will accept magnum loadings, and function just the same.
Heading to the bar now, suggest you do the same.
That's got to be the mother of all straw arguments.
:shaka: :geekdanc: :thumbsup: :rofl:
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That's got to be the mother of all straw arguments.
:shaka: :geekdanc: :thumbsup: :rofl:
Yes, now we’re even >:D
i'm still not sure what you are saying. Are you stating there are no semi-autos that are as safe to carry as a modern revolver unless it has a manual safety?
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Yes, now we’re even >:D
i asked you if that's what you meant. That's not how straw arguments work. in fact, it's a far cry from it.
I never said what you said i was "free to argue" -- i never did make those arguments.
if you don't want to actually have an intelligent discussion, just say so. i assumed you were serious about your opinions. Now it seems you're more serious about ignoring my questions and muddying the waters for your own enjoyment.
i'll stop here unless you come back with something a bit more grounded and less like gobbledygook.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0QuB2v5rLw
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Unless you are a Special Forces operative, a drug dealer, work for the mafia, or belong in a f*ckn gang,
the revolver is enough..... ;D
edited to add: depends where you live too. Chicago, New York, LA, etc. the revolver not enough. :rofl:
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Unless you are a Special Forces operative, a drug dealer, work for the mafia, or belong in a f*ckn gang,
the revolver is enough..... ;D
edited to add: depends where you live too. Chicago, New York, LA, etc. the revolver not enough. :rofl:
Basic rule of thumb is, if you carry daily, and you are proficient with your carry gun, and (the biggie) you live in a place where you're more likely to need to defend yourself against only one attacker, then a revolver makes sense. The firearm is less complicated with fewer moving parts (no FTF or FTE malfunctions), simple to operate (no slides or magazines), and can be more accurate in single action mode.
The downside of a revolver is you may need to fire in double action mode, and with the heavier trigger weight, your aim may not be as accurate. Reloading is also super slow compared to a semi-auto. Finally, if you are fighting off multiple attackers, the limited number of rounds combined with the slow reload means you might not have enough firepower to stop the threat.
Funny how so many people gripe about the 10 round limit on magazines here, yet many are satisfied with 5 rounds in a carry-size revolver -- half as many.
I've seen more and more videos and news reports of people being attacked by groups of attackers. The most recent have been blacks attacking white just trying to walk past them and go about their day. in Oct 2023, a man was assaulted by a four men before 10 pm in the Honolulu Zoo parking lot. The active duty Marine was stabbed 10 times. Luckily he survived.
https://www.kitv.com/news/they-managed-to-stab-me-ten-times-in-total-waikiki-stabbing-victim-recovering-from-attack/article_1304ead6-7643-11ee-b048-7fe26afbe004.html
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and another thing.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRDi8f2xrE0
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and another thing.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRDi8f2xrE0
Hey thanks!- great post dude!
I loved
“If you think you can afford to miss 12 times before you hit something, then maybe a semiauto is for you.”
Wish I was funny sometimes :(
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Hey thanks!- great post dude!
I loved
“If you think you can afford to miss 12 times before you hit something, then maybe a semiauto is for you.”
Wish I was funny sometimes :(
I like his gun room. choke guns and neatly stored. I think the door to his gun room is a bank vault door, so it's pretty secure. :thumbsup:
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I like his gun room. choke guns and neatly stored. I think the door to his gun room is a bank vault door, so it's pretty secure. :thumbsup:
https://youtu.be/bd0v1py8BjE?t=16m16s
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i asked you if that's what you meant. That's not how straw arguments work. in fact, it's a far cry from it.
I never said what you said i was "free to argue" -- i never did make those arguments.
if you don't want to actually have an intelligent discussion, just say so. i assumed you were serious about your opinions. Now it seems you're more serious about ignoring my questions and muddying the waters for your own enjoyment.
i'll stop here unless you come back with something a bit more grounded and less like gobbledygook.
What utter rubbish you write.
In this thread you’ve misrepresented my position repeatedly, to the point of editing out my core position in your responses.
Look, no one comes here to engage in legalistic pedantic jive.
Just be straight up and show some respect to others, and all goes well.
Just look at the bullshit insults above. You should be embarrassed.
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What utter rubbish you write.
In this thread you’ve misrepresented my position repeatedly, to the point of editing out my core position in your responses.
Look, no one comes here to engage in legalistic pedantic jive.
Just be straight up and show some respect to others, and all goes well.
Just look at the bullshit insults above. You should be embarrassed.
Your entire post was an immature insult -- and several days late in fact.
Slow reader, are you? I can type slower if that helps.
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Your entire post was an immature insult -- and several days late in fact.
Slow reader, are you? I can type slower if that helps.
Look, I’ve been around here long enough to clearly see that there is no love lost between you and ANYONE on this forum.
Just get a grip. You’re just some guy like everyone else here, except much more socially awkward.
The last thing I come here for is to do this, but some things must be said.
All the best to you anyway, my intent is not to hate on you, but I’m not going to let you think you can insult me or anyone else here for that matter.
That’s a bright fucking line Ok?
Also, it’s unfair to single you out in this regard as I see it in other places as well - it seems to be accepted.
I say fuck that - never insult anyone here. I’m fully willing to be banned here for pointing it out wherever I see it.
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Look, I’ve been around here long enough to clearly see that there is no love lost between you and ANYONE on this forum.
Just get a grip. You’re just some guy like everyone else here, except much more socially awkward.
The last thing I come here for is to do this, but some things must be said.
All the best to you anyway, my intent is not to hate on you, but I’m not going to let you think you can insult me or anyone else here for that matter.
That’s a bright fucking line Ok?
Also, it’s unfair to single you out in this regard as I see it in other places as well - it seems to be accepted.
I say fuck that - never insult anyone here. I’m fully willing to be banned here for pointing it out wherever I see it.
You've only been a member since April.
Why don't you wait a little longer before appointing yourself Sergeant at Arms?
Hypocritically calling me out for insults is not a good look on you.
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You've only been a member since April.
Why don't you wait a little longer before appointing yourself Sergeant at Arms?
Hypocritically calling me out for insults is not a good look on you.
I know, but I’m not much to look at in the first place.
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I know, but I’m not much to look at in the first place.
I'm glad we can finally agree on something.
:thumbsup: :geekdanc:
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I'm glad we can finally agree on something.
:thumbsup: :geekdanc:
Sure we agree on most things.
I’ll work on my temper - it’s not productive.
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https://youtu.be/bd0v1py8BjE?t=16m16s
That's a cool gun room. Everything is really neatly organized and secure
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Nice short video of Jerry Miculek shooting a 6.5” S&W 610 revolver (10mm Auto) at 100 & 200 yards.
Amazing groups!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=twxJaVdruh0
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFoxfjORvh8
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSjr_fRFzng
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I liked my model 19 until it broke the second time.
Revolvers are absolutely the best handgun teaching tools.
But they are difficult to tune, repair and maintain yourself.
This is why law enforcement moved to autos.
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I liked my model 19 until it broke the second time.
Revolvers are absolutely the best handgun teaching tools.
But they are difficult to tune, repair and maintain yourself.
This is why law enforcement moved to autos.
The underlined is an absolutely true statement: Revolver actions are lockwork mechanisms that rather brilliantly, reliably, accomplish many things at the same time, with an absolute minimum of parts - but this means they must be hand fitted. New parts mean fitting, with pretty much only springs being drop- in replaceable.
On the other hand, once properly done, should last essentially for “life”, as they really can’t be pushed beyond design tolerance / fitting in normal use.
That basicly just leaves defects in manufacturing as a source of failure.
It’s dismaying to hear your 19 broke twice - that shouldn’t happen.
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Im a Ruger fanboi :shaka:
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That basicly just leaves defects in manufacturing as a source of failure.
It’s dismaying to hear your 19 broke twice - that shouldn’t happen.
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I also had a 4" m29 that broke twice.
But I sent it back to sw and they fixed it and turned it into a classic dirty Harry. It's great for photo ops with the right ammo.