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General Topics => General Discussion => Topic started by: ren on October 24, 2025, 09:16:22 PM
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People that shouldn't be driving are still driving and killing innocents...all the traffic tables in the world won't stop people
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2025/10/25/suspect-deadly-hawaii-island-crash-was-cited-just-3-days-prior/
When asked why Medeiros was still on the road despite his record, Mahuna said, “The judiciary can only do so much when it comes to traffic infractions. If he chooses to drive without a license or drive in a reckless manner, that’s his decision. It’s the wrong decision. It’s a tragic decision.”
The crash has renewed calls for safer driving on the highway to prevent further tragedies. Nobriga emphasized the dangers of the highway.
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This guy killed a lady and caused a lot of needless pain for so many people. He is going to cost ALL OF US a lot of money in some way. I have a great suggestion, but I'll just shut up now.
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The purpose of the revolving door of justice is to allow conditions to deteriorate until the public demands totalitarian solutions.
Just wait. Soon they will come out and say stuff like “This can all be solved with digital ID scanners in our cars!”
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The purpose of the revolving door of justice is to allow conditions to deteriorate until the public demands totalitarian solutions.
Just wait. Soon they will come out and say stuff like “This can all be solved with digital ID scanners in our cars!”
Precisely correct!
When I was studying economics in college (back when it was still grounded in empirical observation, so yes I’m 200 years old…) I was stupefied by what I saw being advocated by the Dem party - virtually EVERYTHING they were aggressively pushing is what I had just learned mankind had already figured out was exactly WHAT NOT TO DO economically - centuries ago!
Being quite naive, it took me years back then to realize the truth of what you just said above.
They dedicatedly replicate this in every sphere of human endeavor. It is unmistakable at this point.
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if he used a gun there would be a million new bills next year but going back to the conversation:
Mahuna said, “The judiciary can only do so much when it comes to traffic infractions. If he chooses to drive without a license or drive in a reckless manner, that’s his decision. It’s the wrong decision. It’s a tragic decision.”
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if he used a gun there would be a million new bills next year but going back to the conversation:
Mahuna said, “The judiciary can only do so much when it comes to traffic infractions. If he chooses to drive without a license or drive in a reckless manner, that’s his decision. It’s the wrong decision. It’s a tragic decision.”
I was just going to point this part out. Right here is the problem. "They" know this is happening but they do nothing about it. Oh, they will charge you $250 when you run a red light from the camera they installed at intersections.
After you pay them, they smile, say thank you for the money and let you go.
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Same guy just killed a baby too....
Infant dies days after north Hilo crash claims woman’s life
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2025/10/28/infant-dies-days-after-north-hilo-crash-claims-womans-life/
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This guy killed a lady and caused a lot of needless pain for so many people. He is going to cost ALL OF US a lot of money in some way. I have a great suggestion, but I'll just shut up now.
Foreit his vehicle? (assuming he owns one)
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Foreit his vehicle? (assuming he owns one)
"Authorities said Medeiros overtook multiple vehicles before slamming head-on into the car carrying six people."
I doubt there's much value left in his vehicle after the head-on collision.
That doesn't come close to a fraction of what he should pay in restitution alone. Then there's pain and suffering, criminal charges, ....
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"Authorities said Medeiros overtook multiple vehicles before slamming head-on into the car carrying six people."
I doubt there's much value left in his vehicle after the head-on collision.
That doesn't come close to a fraction of what he should pay in restitution alone. Then there's pain and suffering, criminal charges, ....
Indeed but I was getting at what could be done before they crash their car. When they get their license taken away and still drive then time to take away something else.
Forfeiture would only be part of a solution though, forfeiture wouldn't apply in all situations.
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Indeed but I was getting at what could be done before they crash their car. When they get their license taken away and still drive then time to take away something else.
Forfeiture would only be part of a solution though, forfeiture wouldn't apply in all situations.
So, you're an automobile-control advocate?
Works for guns and drugs. Ought to work for driving without a valid license, too.
:wacko:
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God, his recklessness killed people. Doesn't anyone except me think he should be in prison?
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God, his recklessness killed people. Doesn't anyone except me think he should be in prison?
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I don't think he should be in prison.
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He's got a few tickets....
(https://i.postimg.cc/T1pmz6B4/Image1.jpg)
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He's got a few tickets....
(https://i.postimg.cc/T1pmz6B4/Image1.jpg)
He was a good person he just made wrong decisions...
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Yeah, poor guy. Meanwhile the victim's family........ :(
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By the way, another innocent died today. Check the news.
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By the way, another innocent died today. Check the news.
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There is one almost every day.
The saddest one was the Mahelona girl in Nanakuli who was walking to work at 5am. It seems like she was a young, smart, well adjusted, hard working kid.
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After Sara was killed in front of McKinley, I don't think the state passed anything of meaning to keep repeat offenders off the road. I remember her mom being interviewed and she was upset.
All they did was install those pain in the ass speed bumps and install speed cameras that cause more traffic to an already congested city/area.
I have a friend who's an insurance claims adjsuter and before letting anyone borrow her car, she ask to see their license. She said on a few occassions, the person didn't have one. So she didn't let them borrow her car.
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Another one again. What hawaii going for. One record? Check the news. Again. :grrr:
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After Sara was killed in front of McKinley, I don't think the state passed anything of meaning to keep repeat offenders off the road. I remember her mom being interviewed and she was upset.
All they did was install those pain in the ass speed bumps and install speed cameras that cause more traffic to an already congested city/area.
I have a friend who's an insurance claims adjsuter and before letting anyone borrow her car, she ask to see their license. She said on a few occassions, the person didn't have one. So she didn't let them borrow her car.
There's no money to be made in passing traffic laws, however, there is money made when the City or State buys those speed tables and cameras.
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So, you're an automobile-control advocate?
Works for guns and drugs. Ought to work for driving without a valid license, too.
:wacko:
Not really comparable. Are you opposed to taking away cars from people who repeatedly use the cars to break the law or something?
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Not really comparable. Are you opposed to taking away cars from people who repeatedly use the cars to break the law or something?
Yes, i am opposed to taking private property from people when the property provides critical transportation needs for themselves and their family.
Additionally, if a car sells for $30K, you are supporting fining that person $30K worth of property as well as preventing them from having their own transportation which might be a requirement for their job. Now that fine is taking away their job, which would have the dollar amount that their job generates in income.
i'm curious if you've ever heard of the phrase "excessive fine." Check out the 8th Amendment to the US Constitution.
My solution would be to require the law breaker to take remedial driver's education and to do ride-alongs with police and EMT. Maybe they could also attend the funerals of people killed in senseless traffic accidents -- so they can see the real consequences breaking a simple traffic law can have on spouses, children, friends, other family members and coworkers or classmates.
One of the problems we have is that nobody sees themselves as part of society anymore. If they break a law, it only involves harm to "the system".
Taking a car away won't stop a chronic traffic nuisance. They drive cars they can talk friends, relatives and coworkers into letting them borrow. They can also "borrow" cars without permission. Over a million vehicles are reported stolen on average each year. That's not counting vehicles from work that are misappropriated by employees and returned before anyone notices.
When you work for a government agency, you are allowed to check out vehicles when needed for official business. Some get to use these cars 24/7/365 due to the nature of their work.
So, taking a car from someone is not a guaranteed solution, and it's excessive unless the vehicle's market value equals the fine the law allows.
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Not really comparable. Are you opposed to taking away cars from people who repeatedly use the cars to break the law or something?
Take away their cars, there is no right to drive.
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Yes, i am opposed to taking private property from people when the property provides critical transportation needs for themselves and their family.
Additionally, if a car sells for $30K, you are supporting fining that person $30K worth of property as well as preventing them from having their own transportation which might be a requirement for their job. Now that fine is taking away their job, which would have the dollar amount that their job generates in income.
i'm curious if you've ever heard of the phrase "excessive fine." Check out the 8th Amendment to the US Constitution.
My solution would be to require the law breaker to take remedial driver's education and to do ride-alongs with police and EMT. Maybe they could also attend the funerals of people killed in senseless traffic accidents -- so they can see the real consequences breaking a simple traffic law can have on spouses, children, friends, other family members and coworkers or classmates.
One of the problems we have is that nobody sees themselves as part of society anymore. If they break a law, it only involves harm to "the system".
Taking a car away won't stop a chronic traffic nuisance. They drive cars they can talk friends, relatives and coworkers into letting them borrow. They can also "borrow" cars without permission. Over a million vehicles are reported stolen on average each year. That's not counting vehicles from work that are misappropriated by employees and returned before anyone notices.
When you work for a government agency, you are allowed to check out vehicles when needed for official business. Some get to use these cars 24/7/365 due to the nature of their work.
So, taking a car from someone is not a guaranteed solution, and it's excessive unless the vehicle's market value equals the fine the law allows.
Fair enough, but the alternative of putting them in prison for repeated violations of criminal traffic laws (since fines aren't stopping people like this) would also cause them the loss of their job. Granted they will still have housing of course but locking this person up still causes much of the same hardships which you cite as your opposition to forfeiture.
I am pretty familiar with forfeiture and I have some qualms with it generally but I also recognize it as a tool to combat crime. It isn't a guaranteed solution but no solution is guaranteed aside from being locked up. I think taking their car is a lesser punishment than locking them up for an extended period of time.
As to your alternative suggestion I do like your out of the box thinking there.
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Fair enough, but the alternative of putting them in prison for repeated violations of criminal traffic laws (since fines aren't stopping people like this) would also cause them the loss of their job. Granted they will still have housing of course but locking this person up still causes much of the same hardships which you cite as your opposition to forfeiture.
I am pretty familiar with forfeiture and I have some qualms with it generally but I also recognize it as a tool to combat crime. It isn't a guaranteed solution but no solution is guaranteed aside from being locked up. I think taking their car is a lesser punishment than locking them up for an extended period of time.
As to your alternative suggestion I do like your out of the box thinking there.
did you graduate from a community college with a degree in Obvious Arts?
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https://www.khon2.com/hawaii-crime/86-year-old-woman-burglarized-while-visiting-husbands-grave/
We've reached a new low...I hope the supernatural pays a visit to those despicable crumbs....
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did you graduate from a community college with a degree in Obvious Arts?
All of his arguments are surface-level. He isn't capable of making a judgement call on which policies are good and which are bad. He just blathers as if he's debating himself on the pros and cons -- as if we need him to explain them to us.
He's sounding more and more like an AI BOT, able to gloss over the responses he gives without committing to any position one way or the other -- unless it's an issue involving Trump. Then it's always the anti-Trump answer.
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https://www.khon2.com/hawaii-crime/86-year-old-woman-burglarized-while-visiting-husbands-grave/
We've reached a new low...I hope the supernatural pays a visit to those despicable crumbs....
While we are reaching new lows, the rubbish is reaching epic highs. And no help seems to be in sight since HPD is too busy trying to clean the rubbish in their own back yard.
And the rubbish at the state capitol is trying to figure out which trash heap is on the take.
Hawaii: rubbish, rubbish everywhere and nary a rake, broom, or water hose in sight......
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Wow...robbing an old lady at a graveyard. Wtf is wrong with people nowadays?
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That graveyard isn't very safe.
The street is a dead end.
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Wow...robbing an old lady at a graveyard. Wtf is wrong with people nowadays?
After reading the article I contemplated for quite a while, trying to comprehend, visualize, and work through what type of conditions and frame of mind would make individuals plan and implement such heinous behavior.
Because obviously these individuals planned this. It wasn't spontaneous I believe.
I'm just flabbergasted. All I can say is what goes around comes around. Karma awaits these asshats.
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It has happened there before. I had a friend that went to visit her mother's grave site anher car was broken in to. Easy pickings for slimeballs there.
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Fair enough, but the alternative of putting them in prison for repeated violations of criminal traffic laws (since fines aren't stopping people like this) would also cause them the loss of their job. Granted they will still have housing of course but locking this person up still causes much of the same hardships which you cite as your opposition to forfeiture.
I am pretty familiar with forfeiture and I have some qualms with it generally but I also recognize it as a tool to combat crime. It isn't a guaranteed solution but no solution is guaranteed aside from being locked up. I think taking their car is a lesser punishment than locking them up for an extended period of time.
As to your alternative suggestion I do like your out of the box thinking there.
You say that like it's a bad thing. Piloting a projectile at speeds capable of maiming and killing others sharing the road both in vehicles and as bike riders and pedestrians is much more serious than just breaking a traffic law.
This judge got it right....
https://youtube.com/shorts/b3IDS3LdMJk
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did you graduate from a community college with a degree in Obvious Arts?
When people miss the obvious, sometimes you have to point out the obvious....
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You say that like it's a bad thing. Piloting a projectile at speeds capable of maiming and killing others sharing the road both in vehicles and as bike riders and pedestrians is much more serious than just breaking a traffic law.
This judge got it right....
https://youtube.com/shorts/b3IDS3LdMJk
I never said it was a bad thing, I am not opposed to jailing those who continuously drive without a license. I only pointed out that one of the objections you raise to forfeiting a vehicle for traffic violations would apply to putting them in jail as well.
You say I am incapable of making a judgement call but you never asked my position. If you want to know my position then just ask instead of doing a strawman
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I never said it was a bad thing, I am not opposed to jailing those who continuously drive without a license. I only pointed out that one of the objections you raise to forfeiting a vehicle for traffic violations would apply to putting them in jail as well.
You say I am incapable of making a judgement call but you never asked my position. If you want to know my position then just ask instead of doing a strawman
Wrong.
The consequences of putting someone in jail are widely varied from case to case. A father losing their job because they have no car is a different circumstance than him going to jail. Taking the car does not guarantee he won't find a way to drive to work, etc. Going to prison guarantees it.
My arguments were not against taking the car as much as finding an alternative that addresses the actual problem. Taking the car keys treats them like a teen that broke curfew. taking the car is excessive in most instances based on the crime. But, when someone routinely ignores the court taking their license away, that becomes criminal contempt of court, and prison might be the thing that stops them from driving long enough to realize they need to stop breaking the law.
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Wrong.
The consequences of putting someone in jail are widely varied from case to case. A father losing their job because they have no car is a different circumstance than him going to jail. Taking the car does not guarantee he won't find a way to drive to work, etc. Going to prison guarantees it.
I didn't say the punishments were equal in any way. I only pointed out that one of your objections (the loss of job due to the loss of car) is an outcome of going to jail as well.
My arguments were not against taking the car as much as finding an alternative that addresses the actual problem. Taking the car keys treats them like a teen that broke curfew. taking the car is excessive in most instances based on the crime. But, when someone routinely ignores the court taking their license away, that becomes criminal contempt of court, and prison might be the thing that stops them from driving long enough to realize they need to stop breaking the law.
I agree with most of what you said here. The only potential disagreement being where to draw the line on what crime would and would not qualify for asset forfeiture.
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I didn't say the punishments were equal in any way. I only pointed out that one of your objections (the loss of job due to the loss of car) is an outcome of going to jail as well.
I agree with most of what you said here. The only potential disagreement being where to draw the line on what crime would and would not qualify for asset forfeiture.
Just like with red flag laws, you avoid the obvious. Putting someone in jail prevents the inmate from committing more crime perpetrated against the public at large.
Taking a car -- just like taking guns -- will not prevent the criminal from committing crimes. It only makes doing so slightly less convenient.
Rather than take away the means, take away their ability to commit more crimes. Taking property is a fine, and the fine of a car (or several firearms and ammo) is in most cases excessive financially. To replace it would cost more than a reasonable fine.
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WTF is wrong with people nowadays???
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From HNN...
"A surveillance camera in the parking lot outside the Moanalua High School gym recorded the incident that happened last Thursday night, when Aukusutino Noga, 40, allegedly assaulted Moanalua High School associate athletic director Natalie Iwamoto."
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WTF is wrong with people nowadays???
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From HNN...
"A surveillance camera in the parking lot outside the Moanalua High School gym recorded the incident that happened last Thursday night, when Aukusutino Noga, 40, allegedly assaulted Moanalua High School associate athletic director Natalie Iwamoto."
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Children raising children. The dude was raised by immature parents. He is just like his parents. Or maybe he had only one parent. Maybe he never had parents. Regardless. Whoever raised him were children themselves. Never grew up. Never knew responsibility for actions or taught it.
But I'd bet they knew how to screw. And had great interest and enthusiasm in doing so.
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RE. Noga assault
How ironic that Noga is a corrections officer (prison guard?)
I wonder how that would work.
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Bigger man against a female...if they take gender into account but all that is lost now right?! gender fluidity...
https://hhsaa.org/about/leadership-team
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https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2025/12/12/post-game-incident-leads-restraining-order/
According to Hosoda, Iwamoto was helped by the Moanalua basketball team trainer and one of the referees but remained unconscious. Meanwhile, the attacker stays on the scene until police arrive, nearly 13 minutes later.
Eventually, officers take the man into custody.
“Having watched it, it’s horrific,” said state School Superintendent Keith Hayashi. “It’s shocking to see an adult attack one of our employees like that. It has no place on the school campus or anywhere else.”
A spokesperson for the state Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation confirmed to Hawaii News Now that Noga is an adult corrections officer.
Iwamoto has also filed for a temporary restraining order. In her request, she told the court that Noga “told bystanders that he strongly stands by his actions of assaulting me.”
“Because the Respondent (Noga) firmly believes his unprovoked, hostile actions were justified and that I deserved the injuries I sustained, I am in continuous and great fear that he will harass and assault me again,” her statement said.
Iwamoto also said his “unapologetic stance confirms that he poses an immediate and credible threat of future violence.”
Noga pleaded not guilty to the assault charge. His trial has been set for Feb. 9. A court hearing on the temporary restraining order is scheduled to take place Wednesday.
Related?
https://archives.starbulletin.com/2002/04/07/sports/story4.html
https://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2009/Jul/26/sp/hawaii907260376.html
Mrs. Iwamoto was knocked unconscious for 10 mins. That guy has no honor. I was taught to never hit a female but I guess all that has changed with all this gender talk. He pleads not guilty. Video shows otherwise....my opinion....
I think what's going to happen is the State of Hawaii will get sued, will settle, Noga will retain his job with a slap on the wrist. We taxpayers will burden this.
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You guys are quite upright and civil in your condemnation.
I know I should be too.
But I believe that fat f*^+ker should have had at least two in the chest for what amounted to attempted murder.
Yes - she could have died, if not from the blow, then the impact on the concrete.
But because she didn’t, he gets charged with Assault 2.
F^*+ker should be on a slab somewhere in Iwilei.
As an aside, should she have somehow survived that hit and been armed, it would be justified: Immediate an unavoidable danger of death or grave bodily injury, etc.
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You guys are quite upright and civil in your condemnation.
I know I should be too.
But I believe that fat f*^+ker should have had at least two in the chest for what amounted to attempted murder.
Yes - she could have died, if not from the blow, then the impact on the concrete.
But because she didn’t, he gets charged with Assault 2.
F^*+ker should be on a slab somewhere in Iwilei.
As an aside, should she have somehow survived that hit and been armed, it would be justified: Immediate an unavoidable danger of death or grave bodily injury, etc.
Hawaii does not condone self protection. Rely on government. Imagine if she did shoot. There would be "he was a good parent" headline after headline. The local media would crucify her. The lizardlature would pass more anti 2a, anti self defense bills. Criminals would be legal to roam (as if they don't already) while the political elite will continue to reside in their ivory towers.
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Liberals aren't happy unless they are controlling every single person's actions and thoughts.
And when they can't, they play Monday morning quarterback, telling you what you should have done after the fact in spite of the circumstances being beyond your control. Hindsight is 20/20. It's always easy to condemn someone's actions when you have all the facts after everything happened.
The victim, in their minds, is the person who came out on the losing end of the confrontation -- not necessarily the one who was the target of the aggressor.
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I forgot. This f*cker has a kid.
"Daddy, what yoo deed was Oh K?"
"Ov cos, son."
"Awwwrite! Dat's my dad!! Wea my f*ckn teacha."
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Hawaii does not condone self protection. Rely on government. Imagine if she did shoot. There would be "he was a good parent" headline after headline. The local media would crucify her. The lizardlature would pass more anti 2a, anti self defense bills. Criminals would be legal to roam (as if they don't already) while the political elite will continue to reside in their ivory towers.
All true.
This is why, if you choose to live here, you have to make your choice ahead of time: To do what you believe is moral and necessary to protect innocent life if you are forced to, answering only to your conscience and your maker, OR to violate that exact thing to save yourself from what you so well describe above, and somehow try to live with yourself.
I.e. have worms as overlords.
Which is worse?
Maybe better to go somewhere with civilized authorities…. and until then hope you are not put to the test.
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I forgot. This f*cker has a kid.
"Daddy, what yoo deed was Oh K?"
"Ov cos, son."
"Awwwrite! Dat's my dad!! Wea my f*ckn teacha."
The video shows the victim falling over the child after she was punched. I wouldn't be surprised if the State decided to charge her for assault to the child or a civil suit by the aggressor.
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Liberals aren't happy unless they are controlling every single person's actions and thoughts.
And when they can't, they play Monday morning quarterback, telling you what you should have done after the fact in spite of the circumstances being beyond your control. Hindsight is 20/20. It's always easy to condemn someone's actions when you have all the facts after everything happened.
The victim, in their minds, is the person who came out on the losing end of the confrontation -- not necessarily the one who was the target of the aggressor.
Yes.
Their imperative is to sow chaos and injustice in pursuit of their Animal Farm, however the problem they have, is that to the rest of the universe, their first and best use is as fertilizer.
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I forgot. This f*cker has a kid.
"Daddy, what yoo deed was Oh K?"
"Ov cos, son."
"Awwwrite! Dat's my dad!! Wea my f*ckn teacha."
Yep. Here you see exactly where their kind comes from, generation after generation. Hawaii promotes them, gives them jobs, like Corrections Officer, etc.
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https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2025/12/17/video-during-game-allegedly-shows-angry-parents-before-school-official-assaulted/
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wtf is wrong with these people?
(https://i.postimg.cc/05LMhF4s/SMH.gif) (https://postimages.org/)
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If you mess with enough people's RNA you're going to turn some of them into psychos.
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it is DOE's fault...
https://www.khon2.com/local-news/find-their-spines-hgea-presses-doe-on-moanalua-assault/
Following an upset parent’s assault of a Moanalua High School associate athletic director, the Hawaii Government Employees Association is demanding action from the Department of Education.
“We’ve been sounding the alarm along with the teachers of the Union for a long time about escalating threats and potential violence against school employees,” said HGEA Executive Director Randy Perreira.
Man, 60, indicted for alleged assault on HPD officer
On Dec. 15, Perreira sent Superintendent Keith Hayashi a letter demanding accountability.
“We appreciate that you immediately reacted to the situation,” Perreira said. “Words are easy; however, currently we are demanding to know what steps the department intends to take to prevent such instances from occurring again in the future.”
I read that Keith Hayashi DID NOT throw the punch. Am I missing something?
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it is DOE's fault...
https://www.khon2.com/local-news/find-their-spines-hgea-presses-doe-on-moanalua-assault/
Following an upset parent’s assault of a Moanalua High School associate athletic director, the Hawaii Government Employees Association is demanding action from the Department of Education.
“We’ve been sounding the alarm along with the teachers of the Union for a long time about escalating threats and potential violence against school employees,” said HGEA Executive Director Randy Perreira.
Man, 60, indicted for alleged assault on HPD officer
On Dec. 15, Perreira sent Superintendent Keith Hayashi a letter demanding accountability.
“We appreciate that you immediately reacted to the situation,” Perreira said. “Words are easy; however, currently we are demanding to know what steps the department intends to take to prevent such instances from occurring again in the future.”
I read that Keith Hayashi DID NOT throw the punch. Am I missing something?
Just maybe the fact that we are living in the banana republik of hawaii.
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wtf is wrong with these people?
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Oh you mean our Justice system, prosecutors, and LE?
Yeah, wtf is wrong with them.....
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Nogas just got banned from school properties forever.