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General Topics => Political Discussion => Topic started by: hvybarrels on November 15, 2025, 11:24:10 PM
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Listening to War Room today and there’s a chance things could go kinetic in the next 72 hours. Huge military buildup at the moment.
Safe to say we wouldn’t be there if they didn’t have oil.
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Hard to deny the oil profit motive. Maybe he could spin it to some other personal benefit as well. Really hollows out his whole claim about not starting wars though.
I would be more interested in him taking a little more action of the religious massacres going on in Africa right now.
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Hard to deny the oil profit motive. Maybe he could spin it to some other personal benefit as well. Really hollows out his whole claim about not starting wars though.
I would be more interested in him taking a little more action of the religious massacres going on in Africa right now.
How do you know hw isn't?
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How do you know hw isn't?
I don't know he isn't. Would be nice if we had some black ops stuff going on liquidating the extremist Muslim murderous troops though.
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It took a little more than 72 hours but finally we're back in business with the forever wars.
China could make a move on Taiwan in retaliation soon. We just cut off one of their major oil suppliers.
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Amd they bombed hugo chavez grave for fun. Thats my potus.
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I would be more interested in him taking a little more action of the religious massacres going on in Africa right now.
He already started. Things take time.
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There was a docu years ago.
Their dollar is useless that they use the US dollar instead. If u wanted to buy a fish and the vendor did accept the ven dollar, then its not by value, but by weight. So like 19lbs of paper currency just for a fish.
Then the people tapping into underground water lines causs their water wasnt flowing.
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Maybe he should have taken the deal from the man who wrote "The Art of the Deal"
https://youtu.be/DKb45LaBs8Q
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There are many videos on social media that show Venezuelans in their country who are celebrating.
While I wish Trump would prioritize arresting dictators in this country there might actually be some good that comes from this
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Being the leader of the United States is the most difficult job in the world.
Damn if you do, and damn if you don't.
This is why I think President Trump is a great leader. He does what he feels needs to be done.
Making decisions is the hardest part of leadership. Not everyone will agree with what you have decided.
And the harshest criticism comes from those who only see one side of the total spectrum.
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I prefer to have a consistent set of values (anti interventionism, congressional approval of war) rather than "It's okay because my side is doing it".
As we can see from the Democrats the freakshow level of moral flexibility creates and empty husk where a person used to be.
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Hard to deny the oil profit motive. Maybe he could spin it to some other personal benefit as well. Really hollows out his whole claim about not starting wars though.
I would be more interested in him taking a little more action of the religious massacres going on in Africa right now.
You must have missed all the Venezuelans, in Venezuela, celebrating Maduro's capture because they didn't show that on CNN and MSNBC.
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“Nicolas Maduro and his wife, Cilia Flores, have been indicted in the Southern District of New York,” she explained in a post on X. “Nicolas Maduro has been charged with Narco-Terrorism Conspiracy, Cocaine Importation Conspiracy, Possession of Machineguns and Destructive Devices, and Conspiracy to Possess Machineguns and Destructive Devices against the United States. They will soon face the full wrath of American justice on American soil in American courts.”
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/democrats-melt-down-over-capture-and-arrest-dictator-maduro
Charging him with machine guns is really bizarre and conflicts with this administration’s pro 2a rhetoric. Plus the sdny is a kangaroo court. WTH is even going on right now?
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please show me where they needed congressional approval of this action...
I prefer to have a consistent set of values (anti interventionism, congressional approval of war) rather than "It's okay because my side is doing it".
As we can see from the Democrats the freakshow level of moral flexibility creates and empty husk where a person used to be.
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you weren't paying attention over the christmas holiday?
too busy on DUI checkpoints?
I don't know he isn't. Would be nice if we had some black ops stuff going on liquidating the extremist Muslim murderous troops though.
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please show me where he is starting a war
you should be more familiar than most about capturing a wanted criminal...
Hard to deny the oil profit motive. Maybe he could spin it to some other personal benefit as well. Really hollows out his whole claim about not starting wars though.
I would be more interested in him taking a little more action of the religious massacres going on in Africa right now.
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“Nicolas Maduro and his wife, Cilia Flores, have been indicted in the Southern District of New York,” she explained in a post on X. “Nicolas Maduro has been charged with Narco-Terrorism Conspiracy, Cocaine Importation Conspiracy, Possession of Machineguns and Destructive Devices, and Conspiracy to Possess Machineguns and Destructive Devices against the United States. They will soon face the full wrath of American justice on American soil in American courts.”
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/democrats-melt-down-over-capture-and-arrest-dictator-maduro
Charging him with machine guns is really bizarre and conflicts with this administration’s pro 2a rhetoric. Plus the sdny is a kangaroo court. WTH is even going on right now?
This is what's going on now:
(https://i.imgur.com/3RQIeYt.png)
https://x.com/Inevitablewest/status/2007475595790196856?s=20
https://x.com/ImMeme0/status/2007568861730877941?s=20
https://x.com/nickshirleyy/status/2007485612241367156?s=20
https://x.com/LangmanVince/status/2007499832664170656?s=20
https://x.com/LangmanVince/status/2007457717040931265?s=20
(https://i.imgur.com/BaaMs5z.jpeg)
"BREAKING: Nobel Peace Prize winner and opposition leader Maria Corina Machado: "We are ready to take over government" in Venezuela."
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The propaganda is running thick. Watch out.
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The propaganda is running thick. Watch out.
A friend is in this celebration, along with the entirety of her family and their entire neighborhood, celebrating Maduro's capture. She can confirm the CIA did not buy her clothes or a US or Venezuelan flag, since you deleted your original comment.
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please show me where they needed congressional approval of this action...
Article I, Section 8, Clause 11:
[The Congress shall have Power . . . ] To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water; . . .
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A friend is in this celebration, along with the entirety of her family and their entire neighborhood, celebrating Maduro's capture. She can confirm the CIA did not buy her clothes or a US or Venezuelan flag, since you deleted your original comment.
I changed my comment because I realized these are Americans in America. It remains to be seen what the Venezuelans in Venezuela really think about this, and since we are still in the fog of war it will probably take a few weeks for independent journalists to get down there and find out.
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I changed my comment because I realized these are Americans in America. It remains to be seen what the Venezuelans in Venezuela really think about this, and since we are still in the fog of war it will probably take a few weeks for independent journalists to get down there and find out.
My friend isn't American and has never been to America. Her family has lived in Venezuela for generations and no Americans live in her neighborhood.
It's almost as if people are trying to find any reason to make this seem like it's worse than it really is, when the people who should be angry are literally celebrating in the streets.
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My friend isn't American and has never been to America. Her family has lived in Venezuela for generations and no Americans live in her neighborhood.
It's almost as if people are trying to find any reason to make this seem like it's worse than it really is, when the people who should be angry are literally celebrating in the streets.
Hopefully it works out well for the people down there, but our history of military adventures typically end in disaster for the countries we invade as while simultaneously stripping Americans of our freedom and prosperity.
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it was an arrest, not a war...
Article I, Section 8, Clause 11:
[The Congress shall have Power . . . ] To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water; . . .
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there are videos on social media of thousands in the streets celebrating...
I changed my comment because I realized these are Americans in America. It remains to be seen what the Venezuelans in Venezuela really think about this, and since we are still in the fog of war it will probably take a few weeks for independent journalists to get down there and find out.
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https://x.com/SonofLiberty357/status/2007593583579468100?s=20
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it was an arrest, not a war...
It was a capture on foreign soil
Just because everyone else broke the law doesn’t make it right. In fact lawlessness is a sure fire way to end a nation, and the fact that Trump seems to be throwing his campaign promises out the window makes me think that we don’t have long.
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If Trump can make Venezuela successful again, it'll stop most of the illegal immigration with many returning there.
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It was a capture on foreign soil
Just because everyone else broke the law doesn’t make it right. In fact lawlessness is a sure fire way to end a nation, and the fact that Trump seems to be throwing his campaign promises out the window makes me think that we don’t have long.
Maduro has had a warrant for narco-terrorism on him since March 2020.
Let's hear more from a Venezuelan on the issue:
https://x.com/ryangerritsen/status/2007597870711775452?s=20
https://x.com/Chicago1Ray/status/2007563247860260937?s=20
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there are videos on social media of thousands in the streets celebrating...
Sounds familiar
https://www.nytimes.com/2003/04/09/international/worldspecial/celebration-in-baghdad-us-forces-reach-central.html
I’m willing to be wrong but we will get a better sense of what is really going on in the coming weeks
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Being the leader of the United States is the most difficult job in the world.
Damn if you do, and damn if you don't.
This is why I think President Trump is a great leader. He does what he feels needs to be done.
Making decisions is the hardest part of leadership. Not everyone will agree with what you have decided.
And the harshest criticism comes from those who only see one side of the total spectrum.
Its a lot easier if the fake news covers for u. Trump has huge balls to do what he does as no action is the right action if one has TDS.
Theyre literally protecting drug people, illegal aliens, etc....
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“Nicolas Maduro and his wife, Cilia Flores, have been indicted in the Southern District of New York,” she explained in a post on X. “Nicolas Maduro has been charged with Narco-Terrorism Conspiracy, Cocaine Importation Conspiracy, Possession of Machineguns and Destructive Devices, and Conspiracy to Possess Machineguns and Destructive Devices against the United States. They will soon face the full wrath of American justice on American soil in American courts.”
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/democrats-melt-down-over-capture-and-arrest-dictator-maduro
Charging him with machine guns is really bizarre and conflicts with this administration’s pro 2a rhetoric. Plus the sdny is a kangaroo court. WTH is even going on right now?
I found that odd too abt the machine guns.
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On the plus side the dems and media hate it, so there’s a chance Trump foiled a CIA/CCP scheme.
https://www.kitv.com/news/politics/hawaii-politicians-react-to-trump-s-unconstitutional-military-escalation-in-venezuela/article_f565efcf-eaa3-4525-955d-19b12c4ce89f.html
I was also wrong about how Trump handled Iran by fake bombing them just to make Israel shut up and behave itself. That was a masterful maneuver.
We will see how this works out
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45 indicted him in 2020
biden did not retract the indictment
in fact, he tried to point out that trump did not act on the indictment leaving millions to suffer (which he then did for 4 more years)
It was a capture on foreign soil
Just because everyone else broke the law doesn’t make it right. In fact lawlessness is a sure fire way to end a nation, and the fact that Trump seems to be throwing his campaign promises out the window makes me think that we don’t have long.
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so you now admit it was a capture, not a war?
goalposts moved...
It was a capture on foreign soil
Just because everyone else broke the law doesn’t make it right. In fact lawlessness is a sure fire way to end a nation, and the fact that Trump seems to be throwing his campaign promises out the window makes me think that we don’t have long.
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https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2026/01/04/hawaii-leaders-condemn-us-strike-venezuela/
U.S. Sen. Brian Schatz (D-Hawaii) criticized the president for putting the American people and interests at risk for oil profits.
“President Trump is jeopardizing American lives and interests — and stating plainly that the purpose is for U.S. oil companies to make money in Venezuela," he said in a statement. “Either these companies knew about these plans in advance, or he’s ordering corporations to be a part of his effort to overthrow another government.”
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President Trump reminds me of General Patton.
Full speed ahead. Act swiftly, decisively, and with brutal aggression.
To our 4 clowns from Hawaii who we sent to Washington DC:
Maybe if you dems were to support legal immigration there would be more money to go around. Because of your relaxed immigration stance, the Somalis in Minnesota have frauded the American taxpayers out of billions of dollars. Your once vice-presidential candidate is a fuckin retard who was either too clueless to realize what was happening or is complicit with the deceit.
And who knows, maybe this fraud is also happening in other states as well.
That's a lot of money that could have helped the American people. You know, with the "high" cost of living and medical expenses you dems are blaming on other people when you folks are the very ones that caused this.
So STFU.
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so you now admit it was a capture, not a war?
goalposts moved...
The goalposts are already wide enough that I could literally kick in any direction and still score.
Hostile actions on foreign soil are all illegal unless congress approves.
The whole point was to prevent our nation from becoming an empire and bankrupting itself.
Too late I guess,
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it remains to be seen...
I changed my comment because I realized these are Americans in America. It remains to be seen what the Venezuelans in Venezuela really think about this, and since we are still in the fog of war it will probably take a few weeks for independent journalists to get down there and find out.
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Gas at kahala shell was $4.54 yesterday and is now $4.45. The "war" is working.
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it remains to be seen...
The leftists change their values with the weather. That’s why they are all going insane. If you decide that to follow their lead and treat reality as whatever is convenient then you will go insane as well.
We have no idea what the implications are yet.
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Theres speculation that Maduro agreed to the extraction due to the low level of military defense even by Venezuelan standards and taking the wife with him. Family members are left behind in these situations. So the military offensive may have been a cover for him to save face.
https://youtu.be/PC3tUZ1qGws
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i was not talking about the leftists...
The leftists change their values with the weather. That’s why they are all going insane. If you decide that to follow their lead and treat reality as whatever is convenient then you will go insane as well.
We have no idea what the implications are yet.
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i was not talking about the leftists...
Is this about the 3 cents I owe you?
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lol
heads...
Is this about the 3 cents I owe you?
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lil marco made a biggie reference...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yxv7_264nSQ
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This is an excellent episode from Lei.
The removal of Maduro is bad news for dictatorial regimes around the world.
https://youtu.be/l5SzDM-6qM4
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China also not helping. They met with maduro day off, then we got him.
Funny, no kings protestors are now supporting a dictator.
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China also not helping. They met with maduro day off, then we got him.
Funny, no kings protestors are now supporting a dictator.
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well, they are right he was not a king but a dictator
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China also not helping. They met with maduro day off, then we got him.
Funny, no kings protestors are now supporting a dictator.
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Yes, while still looking at us and shrieking “Fascist!”
Personally, I’d love to see them go full bore on this (probably can’t resist).
Then the American public can see and be reminded that these traitors / foreign agents demand:
1. Foreign invasion of the United States
2. Dictatorship
3. The promotion of violent criminality against the most defenseless
4. The prosecution of self defense
5. Disarmament of the civilian population
6. Institutionalized racism
7. The elimination of private property rights
8. Full weaponization of government against opposition
9. The erasure of womankind in favor of homosexual male’s right to define what a woman is
10. Full-blown Animal Farm tyranny
11. Insert here anything else on Satan’s wish list for humanity
Yeah my message to them is “You go girl!”
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUwRJ96yR6A
@1:50 Venezuelans tell ___ to STFU
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Commence geopolitical era of Hungry Hungry Hippos
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/chinese-social-media-explodes-us-invasion-venezuela-template-move-taiwan
https://youtu.be/xJlKLC-nMJ0
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https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2026/01/04/protestors-hawaii-oppose-trumps-attack-venezuela/
“In Hawaii, we know that America has occupied and stripped everything away from our land,” said protester Emi Jenkins, “and we want to make sure that other countries and other places in the world, people who are a lot more similar to us than the people attacking them are defended.”
follow the big money
https://www.kitv.com/video/hawaii-protest-highlights-anger-over-u-s-military-actions-in-venezuela/video_fc86b03c-705e-55f5-8009-e354d98d941d.html
Apparently Emmy is a member of the Democrat Socialists of Oahu a chapter of the Democrat Socialists of America, which in turned tied to larger "fundraising efforts" by this org https://actionnetwork.org/
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https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2026/01/04/protestors-hawaii-oppose-trumps-attack-venezuela/
“In Hawaii, we know that America has occupied and stripped everything away from our land,” said protester Emi Jenkins, “and we want to make sure that other countries and other places in the world, people who are a lot more similar to us than the people attacking them are defended.”
follow the big money
https://www.kitv.com/video/hawaii-protest-highlights-anger-over-u-s-military-actions-in-venezuela/video_fc86b03c-705e-55f5-8009-e354d98d941d.html
Apparently Emmy is a member of the Democrat Socialists of Oahu a chapter of the Democrat Socialists of America, which in turned tied to larger "fundraising efforts" by this org https://actionnetwork.org/
It’s great that the Communists have finally come out from under the baseboards and trash piles.
Now, no more need to stick roach traps in all those dark damp places.
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These Democrat Socialists sure flex their right to protest in the good ol USA. I'm guessing most are not students of history.
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even AI gets it:
Handling of Protests in Socialist States
State Control and Repression
Socialist states often maintain strict control over public demonstrations.
Protests may be met with heavy police presence or military intervention.
Authorities may label dissent as counter-revolutionary or anti-state activities.
Legal Framework
Many socialist governments have laws that restrict the right to assemble.
Permits for protests are typically required, and approval is often denied.
Unapproved protests can lead to arrests and legal consequences for participants.
Propaganda and Messaging
The state may use propaganda to frame protests as illegitimate or harmful.
Media coverage is often controlled to minimize the visibility of dissent.
Official narratives may emphasize unity and the dangers of external influences.
Historical Context
Historical examples show that protests in socialist states can lead to significant changes, but often at a high cost.
Some protests have resulted in reforms, while others have been suppressed violently.
Variability Among Socialist States
The approach to protests can vary significantly between different socialist countries.
Some may allow limited forms of expression, while others maintain a zero-tolerance policy.
In summary, protests in socialist states are typically managed through a combination of repression, legal restrictions, and state-controlled messaging, with outcomes varying based on the specific political context.
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These Democrat Socialists sure flex their right to protest in the good ol USA. I'm guessing most are not students of history.
(https://res.cloudinary.com/aenetworks/image/upload/c_fill,ar_2,w_1920,h_960,g_auto/dpr_auto/f_auto/q_auto:eco/v1/who-was-the-tank-man-of-tiananmen-squares-featured-photo-e1686059903439?_a=BAVAZGID0)
even AI gets it:
Handling of Protests in Socialist States
State Control and Repression
Socialist states often maintain strict control over public demonstrations.
Protests may be met with heavy police presence or military intervention.
Authorities may label dissent as counter-revolutionary or anti-state activities.
Legal Framework
Many socialist governments have laws that restrict the right to assemble.
Permits for protests are typically required, and approval is often denied.
Unapproved protests can lead to arrests and legal consequences for participants.
Propaganda and Messaging
The state may use propaganda to frame protests as illegitimate or harmful.
Media coverage is often controlled to minimize the visibility of dissent.
Official narratives may emphasize unity and the dangers of external influences.
Historical Context
Historical examples show that protests in socialist states can lead to significant changes, but often at a high cost.
Some protests have resulted in reforms, while others have been suppressed violently.
Variability Among Socialist States
The approach to protests can vary significantly between different socialist countries.
Some may allow limited forms of expression, while others maintain a zero-tolerance policy.
In summary, protests in socialist states are typically managed through a combination of repression, legal restrictions, and state-controlled messaging, with outcomes varying based on the specific political context.
Nice - you’re on a roll here.
There’s no substitute for defeating and eliminating this threat to our free society - if it is to remain free.
Totalitarians do not stop, until they are stopped.
They capitalize on the openness of free societies in order to subvert and destroy them.
There is no greater threat to human life and liberty.
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Funny thought.
Democrat Socialist = illiterate penpal
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Funny thought.
Democrat Socialist = illiterate penpal
Indeed.
No point in crafting well articulated arguments defending the hard-learned truths humanity has acquired about creating and preserving free, peaceful, open civil societies.
At the end of the infestation, all you are left with are bullets to exchange with them.
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Theres speculation that Maduro agreed to the extraction due to the low level of military defense even by Venezuelan standards and taking the wife with him. Family members are left behind in these situations. So the military offensive may have been a cover for him to save face.
Nick: are you going to try me in Miami where they hate my guts?
Don: no. Southern district of New York thats run by your fellow communists, and Ive got my most loyal cover up artist working on charges that we can also use to weaken the second amendment.
Nick: deal!
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Nick: are you going to try me in Miami where they hate my guts?
Don: no. Southern district of New York thats run by your fellow communists, and Ive got my most loyal cover up artist working on charges that we can also use to weaken the second amendment.
Nick: deal!
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Correction:
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Pam is still in charge overall, and the judge is a whole different can of worms…
https://www.newarab.com/news/judge-who-blocked-trump-gaza-deportations-oversee-maduro-case
Somehow the people who meticulously planned this precision military op failed to account for the the basic elements of the trial. Something doesn’t add up.
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Ven is complaining that Maduro's guards were "executed" during the raid by our forces. I guess the ROE should have been to ask politely to let us take your dictator.
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My concern is not as much about the moral implications as the fact that China will now see this as the ultimate justification to take Taiwan, putting Hawaii back on the front line again for the first time since Pearl Harbor
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My concern is not as much about the moral implications as the fact that China will now see this as the ultimate justification to take Taiwan, putting Hawaii back on the front line again for the first time since Pearl Harbor
China would have to create a reason to take their president. Like how the US determined Maduro was involved with drugs.
Sane people can agree supporting drug cartels are bad and warrant a removal. But if China uses the "one China" reason to remove Taiwans president, then that won't fly well.
And even with that, their citizens won't accept the CCP, so an invasion/occupation would have to take place. You won't see thousands of Taiwanese citizens celebrating if their president is removed from office by China.
On a side note, I got to be about 30 feet from the Taiwan president precovid. We were eating dinner and she showed up. I was wondering why there were added security for the hotel. It wasn't like US security, but more than a hotel woudl have. As in cops hanging out. They didn't even have metal detectors or searching bags. I was able to just walk into the venue like normal. Her detail also wasn't watching the crowd, but instead facing her and watching her give her speech. Compared to the US detail who are facing the crowd and scanning. Below is a pic that I took, she's next to the red pillar on the right speaking. The 2 in the black jacket are part of her detail.
The point of the above is if China did want to take Taiwans president, Taiwan has to ramp up their protection.
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China would have to create a reason to take their president. Like how the US determined Maduro was involved with drugs.
Flimsy pretexts are a dime a dozen. There’s no international order any more, and the only law that remains is “might makes right”. All governments have to do now is to convince their own populations to keep paying taxes and prepare to sacrifice themselves for a bunch of elite psychopaths who will run and hide in their Zuckerbunkers at the first sign of trouble.
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Flimsy pretexts are a dime a dozen. There’s no international order any more, and the only law that remains is “might makes right”. All governments have to do now is to convince their own populations to keep paying taxes and prepare to sacrifice themselves for a bunch of elite psychopaths who will run and hide in their Zuckerbunkers at the first sign of trouble.
Well to be fair, China has never won a war. So even if they did invade Taiwan, odds are against them. For now, China won't do anything as they know Trump is no push over. If they do plan an invasion, they would wait till we have a weaker leader.
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Well to be fair, China has never won a war. So even if they did invade Taiwan, odds are against them. For now, China won't do anything as they know Trump is no push over. If they do plan an invasion, they would wait till we have a weaker leader.
The Chinese approach so far has been Athens vs Sparta where they destroy the superior military force from the inside with corruption. That’s why so many shitlibs are melting down at the moment pretending to care about international law, but the real cause of their tears is that Venezuela was a major hub for their bribe networks. China is waiting for the right set of predetermined conditions to start a blockade on Taiwan, most likely under a USD/bond market collapse when our international influence has completely diminished. Under a rain of hypersonic missiles our obsolete navy is useless and most of our conventional munitions have been burned up in Ukraine. The Chinese used infiltration to maneuver us into this predicament, and while Trumpian wild card stunts have bought us a little extra time the rest of the world is scrambling to unload US debt now that our desperate measures have demonstrated that US hegemony is disintegrating.
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Well to be fair, China has never won a war. So even if they did invade Taiwan, odds are against them. For now, China won't do anything as they know Trump is no push over. If they do plan an invasion, they would wait till we have a weaker leader.
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Literally got caught laundering Chinese money and influence peddling. Still walking around free.
But at lest we got Maduro, right?
This TV show sucks
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The Chinese approach so far has been Athens vs Sparta where they destroy the superior military force from the inside with corruption. That’s why so many shitlibs are melting down at the moment pretending to care about international law, but the real cause of their tears is that Venezuela was a major hub for their bribe networks. China is waiting for the right set of predetermined conditions to start a blockade on Taiwan, most likely under a USD/bond market collapse when our international influence has completely diminished. Under a rain of hypersonic missiles our obsolete navy is useless and most of our conventional munitions have been burned up in Ukraine. The Chinese used infiltration to maneuver us into this predicament, and while Trumpian wild card stunts have bought us a little extra time the rest of the world is scrambling to unload US debt now that our desperate measures have demonstrated that US hegemony is disintegrating.
China has been using economic warfare against us for decades. This way they have more pull. Made in China, hoarding our $100 bills, etc...This doesn't cost lives like how an invasion/attack would.
Like the cartels, China knows all they have to do is wait till Trumps term is completed.
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Well to be fair, China has never won a war. So even if they did invade Taiwan, odds are against them. For now, China won't do anything as they know Trump is no push over. If they do plan an invasion, they would wait till we have a weaker leader.
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Not only weak but complicit, corrupt, and evil. But according to Oldfarts pic she has enormous saggy boobs. ;D
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https://youtu.be/7dV2CxppHYU
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hmmm....
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/senate/4409165/fetterman-hypocrite-democrats-maduro-arrest/
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/10/world/americas/biden-bounty-nicolas-maduro.html
https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/fact-check-biden-administration-raised-184600558.html
U.S. presidential actions against Maduro
On March 8, 2015, then-President Barack Obama signed Executive Order 13692 declaring a national emergency to deal with the threat Venezuela's government represented to the U.S. Maduro had been president for two years at that point. Obama, targeting the Venezuelan government, imposed sanctions on people involved in anti-democratic actions in the country, actions that violated human rights and freedom of expression, as well as people guilty of public corruption. Obama also banned them from entering the U.S.
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Venezuela will probably be a PITA for years given the mountainous terrain and large narco commie community.
Aside from Russian and Chinese meddling there's also all the bad blood from the United Fruit Company and all the other deep state massacres over the years.
We may have forgotten about our mistreatment of the region but they certainly haven't.
On the other hand we would be doing Albert and Greenland a huge favor. The only problem is finding space on the flag for the extra stars.
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OK. So who's paying for this bounty? I figure American taxpayers.
And who reaps the bounty? In this case, was it President Trump?
I don't understand.
But I'm not gonna lose sleep on it.
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OK. So who's paying for this bounty? I figure American taxpayers.
And who reaps the bounty? In this case, was it President Trump?
I don't understand.
But I'm not gonna lose sleep on it.
Trump stated since they got him with no help, no one is getting it.
I mean, he could techincally claim it and liberals heads would melt.
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Sunshine. Rainbows. Free Oil.
Nope
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/trump-may-freeze-exxon-out-venezuela-after-ceo-darren-woods-called-it-uninvestable
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You must have missed all the Venezuelans, in Venezuela, celebrating Maduro's capture because they didn't show that on CNN and MSNBC.
How is that relevant though? Do you really believe Trump targeted this one particular dictator out of some moral principle?
It isn't even speculation, Trump has mentioned their oil multiple times even as Rubio tried to paint the operation as a more of law and order type thing.
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please show me where they needed congressional approval of this action...
Are you suggesting that the president can attack whatever country he wants at any time for any reason?
Congress is supposed to be the one to declare war and to authorize funding for military actions. If congress doesn't need to have any say then essentially Trump can do just that.
Even Bush got congressional approval to invade Iraq though war was never officially declared.
You ask how this is war. We attack them, capture their leader, destroy a bunch of their military equipment, kill dozens of their soldiers. How is that no war? If a country came in to the USA, killed a bunch of our soldiers and arrested Trump for alleged crimes, would you not call it an act or war?
Calling it simply an arrest is some pretty thin gruel. If Trump was really so concerned about holding drug criminal accountable then he wouldn't have pardoned those drug dealers yet here we are.
Listen, I have no love lost for Maduro being arrested. A humanitarian case can be made for Maduro's removal. He was a terrible dictator destroying the country and it is good he is gone. But I am not so high as to believe for one second that that had anything to do with Trump's justification. It is just a cover plain and simple. Probably for the oil, maybe for something else, but "law enforcement" is nothing but pretty wrapping and dubious legally speaking. If it was about removing dangerous authoritarian leaders he would have removed Kim Jong Un, Putin, and a dozen other leaders.
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Well to be fair, China has never won a war. So even if they did invade Taiwan, odds are against them. For now, China won't do anything as they know Trump is no push over. If they do plan an invasion, they would wait till we have a weaker leader.
Trump is no push over with China? Trump talks tough with China and then backs down. Trump praises authoritarian rulers. Putin has been walking all over Trump.
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you still haven't shown where they needed congressional approval for the action...
Are you suggesting that the president can attack whatever country he wants at any time for any reason?
Congress is supposed to be the one to declare war and to authorize funding for military actions. If congress doesn't need to have any say then essentially Trump can do just that.
Even Bush got congressional approval to invade Iraq though war was never officially declared.
You ask how this is war. We attack them, capture their leader, destroy a bunch of their military equipment, kill dozens of their soldiers. How is that no war? If a country came in to the USA, killed a bunch of our soldiers and arrested Trump for alleged crimes, would you not call it an act or war?
Calling it simply an arrest is some pretty thin gruel. If Trump was really so concerned about holding drug criminal accountable then he wouldn't have pardoned those drug dealers yet here we are.
Listen, I have no love lost for Maduro being arrested. A humanitarian case can be made for Maduro's removal. He was a terrible dictator destroying the country and it is good he is gone. But I am not so high as to believe for one second that that had anything to do with Trump's justification. It is just a cover plain and simple. Probably for the oil, maybe for something else, but "law enforcement" is nothing but pretty wrapping and dubious legally speaking. If it was about removing dangerous authoritarian leaders he would have removed Kim Jong Un, Putin, and a dozen other leaders.
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Are you suggesting that the president can attack whatever country he wants at any time for any reason?
Congress is supposed to be the one to declare war and to authorize funding for military actions. If congress doesn't need to have any say then essentially Trump can do just that.
Even Bush got congressional approval to invade Iraq though war was never officially declared.
You ask how this is war. We attack them, capture their leader, destroy a bunch of their military equipment, kill dozens of their soldiers. How is that no war? If a country came in to the USA, killed a bunch of our soldiers and arrested Trump for alleged crimes, would you not call it an act or war?
Calling it simply an arrest is some pretty thin gruel. If Trump was really so concerned about holding drug criminal accountable then he wouldn't have pardoned those drug dealers yet here we are.
Listen, I have no love lost for Maduro being arrested. A humanitarian case can be made for Maduro's removal. He was a terrible dictator destroying the country and it is good he is gone. But I am not so high as to believe for one second that that had anything to do with Trump's justification. It is just a cover plain and simple. Probably for the oil, maybe for something else, but "law enforcement" is nothing but pretty wrapping and dubious legally speaking. If it was about removing dangerous authoritarian leaders he would have removed Kim Jong Un, Putin, and a dozen other leaders.
Well, after our country being fed off of - like a dead whale carcass drifting at sea - during the Biden regime, gunboat diplomacy feels like a radical shift, and it is.
Unpredictability, and sudden use of force are political techniques Trump uses, some of the time to great effect.
Madoro’s Venezuela was at the nexus of many global risks for the U.S., particularly with respect to its ally Russia, whose oil is circulating around the globe in that ghost fleet looking for a place to land - due to U.S. sanctions - and be sold to fund the war in Ukraine. Maduro’s Venezuela was a key partner in funding Russia.
Trump made the mistake of thinking Putin would deal equitably on Ukraine, but he just rope-a-doped and used the time and opening to prosecute the war further.
Looks like Trump has found a way squeeze Putin’s balls in a more serious way. Now we are even commandeering Russian flagged vessels.
Hopefully this will contribute to a quicker end in Ukraine.
Personally, I wish he was more aggressive in this way domestically with respect to the funding of the domestic terrorism wielded by the Democrat party to destroy our country.
Hopefully we’ll see that, and then there will be fewer useful idiots being arrested and injured, and the illegal invasion of our country orchestrated during the Biden regime will be fully turned back.
PS: And don’t forget the prison nation of Cuba - taking Maduro out is shoving them over the brink economically….
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6yR7p3Ta3E
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6yR7p3Ta3E
Two thoughts:
1. God bless this beautiful American woman.
2. There can be no coexistence with the Left: They want another 100 million killed at their hands in this century, to go along with the 100 million they killed last century.
Like the Venezuelan in the video said, Communism should be a crime. It’s not a crime because we are an open and civilized society - which the Communist exploits to destroy our society.
Hence, there can be no civil society with them in it - leaving only one option for dealing with them …..
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Are you suggesting that the president can attack whatever country he wants at any time for any reason?
Congress is supposed to be the one to declare war and to authorize funding for military actions. If congress doesn't need to have any say then essentially Trump can do just that.
Even Bush got congressional approval to invade Iraq though war was never officially declared.
You ask how this is war. We attack them, capture their leader, destroy a bunch of their military equipment, kill dozens of their soldiers. How is that no war? If a country came in to the USA, killed a bunch of our soldiers and arrested Trump for alleged crimes, would you not call it an act or war?
Calling it simply an arrest is some pretty thin gruel. If Trump was really so concerned about holding drug criminal accountable then he wouldn't have pardoned those drug dealers yet here we are.
Listen, I have no love lost for Maduro being arrested. A humanitarian case can be made for Maduro's removal. He was a terrible dictator destroying the country and it is good he is gone. But I am not so high as to believe for one second that that had anything to do with Trump's justification. It is just a cover plain and simple. Probably for the oil, maybe for something else, but "law enforcement" is nothing but pretty wrapping and dubious legally speaking. If it was about removing dangerous authoritarian leaders he would have removed Kim Jong Un, Putin, and a dozen other leaders.
Do u know what a war is?
We went in and left b4 pizza was deliviered.
We did the same with bin laden.
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you still haven't shown where they needed congressional approval for the action...
I was gonna say this too. He does what he usualy does. Long statement abt nothing when asked a question.
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The president has the authority to direct military action against a foreign nation for up to 90 days without any Congressional approval whatsoever.
There are guidelines as to what types of actions would require the president to respond with military force, but those are not statutory nor constitutional guidelines. if he feels his use of the military is justified, there's nothing illegal about him using the military in any way he sees fit for those 90 days.
Congress may pull the plug on those military operations after 60 days, but that's not going to stop short term military incursions for mission objectives that are accomplished within that timeframe.
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aw
you shouldn't do his homework for him
he "feels" like trump has to get congressional approval...
and i thought it was 60 days...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Powers_Resolution
The president has the authority to direct military action against a foreign nation for up to 90 days without any Congressional approval whatsoever.
There are guidelines as to what types of actions would require the president to respond with military force, but those are not statutory nor constitutional guidelines. if he feels his use of the military is justified, there's nothing illegal about him using the military in any way he sees fit for those 90 days.
Congress may pull the plug on those military operations after 90 days, but that's not going to stop short term military incursions for mission objectives that are accomplished within that 90 days.
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aw
you shouldn't do his homework for him
he "feels" like trump has to get congressional approval...
and i thought it was 60 days...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Powers_Resolution
It's 60 days for the military to engage in operations, but another 30 days to recall the troops once Congress says stop.
The real kicker is this:
“The War Powers Act of 1973 is patently unconstitutional and must give way to
delegated powers of the Constitution itself, designating the President as the sole
Commander in Chief of our armed forces under Article II.” [Lindsey] Graham noted
that presidents have taken “over 130 military actions” without congressional
authorization throughout U.S. history.
“None have been stopped by the U.S. Supreme Court.”
That last point is the only one that matters. The Supreme Court has never stopped
a president from conducting an operation. Not once. Whatever the Constitution
says about congressional war powers, the practical reality is that presidents can do
what they want.
https://govfacts.org/policy-security/military/war-powers/how-presidential-war-powers-work-without-congressional-approval/
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you still haven't shown where they needed congressional approval for the action...
Why are you avoiding the question?
I never said he needed congressional approval BTW, I said congress is supposed to be the one to declare war. I know full well that our government has ignored this part of the constitution repeatedly.
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Well, after our country being fed off of - like a dead whale carcass drifting at sea - during the Biden regime, gunboat diplomacy feels like a radical shift, and it is.
Unpredictability, and sudden use of force are political techniques Trump uses, some of the time to great effect.
Madoro’s Venezuela was at the nexus of many global risks for the U.S., particularly with respect to its ally Russia, whose oil is circulating around the globe in that ghost fleet looking for a place to land - due to U.S. sanctions - and be sold to fund the war in Ukraine. Maduro’s Venezuela was a key partner in funding Russia.
Trump made the mistake of thinking Putin would deal equitably on Ukraine, but he just rope-a-doped and used the time and opening to prosecute the war further.
Looks like Trump has found a way squeeze Putin’s balls in a more serious way. Now we are even commandeering Russian flagged vessels.
Hopefully this will contribute to a quicker end in Ukraine.
Personally, I wish he was more aggressive in this way domestically with respect to the funding of the domestic terrorism wielded by the Democrat party to destroy our country.
Hopefully we’ll see that, and then there will be fewer useful idiots being arrested and injured, and the illegal invasion of our country orchestrated during the Biden regime will be fully turned back.
PS: And don’t forget the prison nation of Cuba - taking Maduro out is shoving them over the brink economically….
There are a number of reasons to believe that this action will, in the long run, be good for the world. Will it actually play out that way? Will have to wait and see.
Trump is still full of BS about Venezuela though. Don't sell me (Trump, not you) on some fake story about the drugs and a law enforcement action or caring about the poor Venezuelan people.
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There are a number of reasons to believe that this action will, in the long run, be good for the world. Will it actually play out that way? Will have to wait and see.
Trump is still full of BS about Venezuela though. Don't sell me (Trump, not you) on some fake story about the drugs and a law enforcement action or caring about the poor Venezuelan people.
Sure, that’s a clear pragmatic take on what looks like a larger strategic action that lends itself, in this case, to a whole bunch of easy humanitarian justifications.
Kinda like low hanging fruit for someone like Trump.
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Why are you avoiding the question?
I never said he needed congressional approval BTW, I said congress is supposed to be the one to declare war. I know full well that our government has ignored this part of the constitution repeatedly.
Lul
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Sure, that’s a clear pragmatic take on what looks like a larger strategic action that lends itself, in this case, to a whole bunch of easy humanitarian justifications.
Kinda like low hanging fruit for someone like Trump.
It still seems like it is primarily about the oil though.
All things equal I would rather him have taken Kim Jong Un over Maduro but righteousness is not part of Trump's calculus.
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It still seems like it is primarily about the oil though.
All things equal I would rather him have taken Kim Jong Un over Maduro but righteousness is not part of Trump's calculus.
I dunno.
He incinerated USAID and thus the funding of its global network of Marxist NGO’s, clawed back funding for the Corporation for Public Broadcasting = Provda, among other similar crimes against the American taxpayer.
It seems the luxury hotels used to house illegals can now catch their breath and repair all the damage they no doubt sustained. Many more illegals likely wisely self-deported, reducing the amount of welfare fraud for sure.
In doing things like this he inched Americans out of slavery by at least that much.
If that isn’t righteous, nothing is.
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Why are you avoiding the question?
I never said he needed congressional approval BTW, I said congress is supposed to be the one to declare war. I know full well that our government has ignored this part of the constitution repeatedly.
There's a reason Congress hasn't made a formal declaration of war since 1945. Maybe you can do your homework and figure out why your comment is irrelevant.
It doesn't matter if the US Constitution grants Congress the authority to declare war. What matters is that we are talking about foreign relations and international actions that affect more than just the US and whichever country with whom we happen to be angry at that moment.
I could toss out a few nouns that would be clues to the real answer, but then you'd be deprived of broadening your mind beyond the first dozen Google hits you see when asking it for assistance.
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What is happening in Venezuela is perfectly fine by me. I also think it was primarily for the oil but hey, if we can wack those drug fuckers while we're at it, by all means, wack away. :thumbsup:
The way I see it, better the US is at the reins as far as Venezuelan oil than China, Russia, and whoever else who would like the US to burn to the ground.
My personal take on the drug war: Wack away at those drug pushing pukes but an equal amount of effort and resources should be spent on destroying the demand for it.
That being said, I think destroying the demand for drugs is harder. I don't even have a clue as to where to start. But I think the answer lies somewhere in the deterioration of our society.
And in my opinion you can blame the damn demorats for that.
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What is happening in Venezuela is perfectly fine by me. I also think it was primarily for the oil but hey, if we can wack those drug fuckers while we're at it, by all means, wack away. :thumbsup:
The way I see it, better the US is at the reins as far as Venezuelan oil than China, Russia, and whoever else who would like the US to burn to the ground.
My personal take on the drug war: Wack away at those drug pushing pukes but an equal amount of effort and resources should be spent on destroying the demand for it.
That being said, I think destroying the demand for drugs is harder. I don't even have a clue as to where to start. But I think the answer lies somewhere in the deterioration of our society.
And in my opinion you can blame the damn demorats for that.
it's difficult to stop the demand when the supply makes it very lucrative for the sellers. You would think incarceration would thwart the demand, yet there are guards and inmates able to have a successful career supplying drugs to inmates. if it's available, the addicts will seek it out.
There's been much study done on addictions. One theory is that many of us have addictive personalities. It all depends on what catches our attention first that become the obsession. Workaholics are addicted to the money, status and feeling that working harder and longer hours than anyone else obtains. Some are addicted to gambling, which is partly the risk but also just playing the game. Winning is the high they seek. Runners can get addicted to the euphoric feeling created when they "hit the wall" and dopamine is released into the brain. There are sex/porn addicts, video gaming addicts, and so on. Many addictions are linked to vices and are by definition activities that provide pleasure. Smoking is considered a vice, and it is one of the most addictive behaviors we know of.
Until there's a way to control addictions in the human body -- both physical and psychological -- there will always be a demand for illegal drugs, prostitution, gambling, .....
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I dunno.
He incinerated USAID and thus the funding of its global network of Marxist NGO’s, clawed back funding for the Corporation for Public Broadcasting = Provda, among other similar crimes against the American taxpayer.
It seems the luxury hotels used to house illegals can now catch their breath and repair all the damage they no doubt sustained. Many more illegals likely wisely self-deported, reducing the amount of welfare fraud for sure.
In doing things like this he inched Americans out of slavery by at least that much.
If that isn’t righteous, nothing is.
Clawed back money from CPB? To me it looks a lot more like an axe to grind. They are very often very critical of Trump, I think it is more vendetta than anything else with public radio/tv. I do think they needed reform but it is definitely not out of fiscal responsibility.
If Trump had actually cut spending then we could have something to point to but he isn't showing any signs of that.
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There's a reason Congress hasn't made a formal declaration of war since 1945. Maybe you can do your homework and figure out why your comment is irrelevant.
Another smug but off topic reply where you try to sound familiar. I am well aware we haven't declared war since the 1940s, that's not my point. I was pointing out congress' failure to do their job.
Work on your reading comprehension.
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Clawed back money from CPB? To me it looks a lot more like an axe to grind. They are very often very critical of Trump, I think it is more vendetta than anything else with public radio/tv. I do think they needed reform but it is definitely not out of fiscal responsibility.
If Trump had actually cut spending then we could have something to point to but he isn't showing any signs of that.
Congress controls spending.
Try again.
Trump can allocate certain pots of money as he desires, but the appropriations are all controlled by Congress.
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seems to me that the senate did their job
they decided not to limit war powers in this venezuela conflict...
i am sure you will say "i knew that, that's not my point"
which you have said at least 2 other times this week
funny how you know about all this stuff when called out...
Another smug but off topic reply where you try to sound familiar. I am well aware we haven't declared war since the 1940s, that's not my point. I was pointing out congress' failure to do their job.
Work on your reading comprehension.
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Another smug but off topic reply where you try to sound familiar. I am well aware we haven't declared war since the 1940s, that's not my point. I was pointing out congress' failure to do their job.
Work on your reading comprehension.
Is it your belief that Congress is failing to do their job by NOT formally declaring war since the end of WWII?
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seems to me that the senate did their job
They did their job by not doing their job? :crazy:
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focus
their job is to vote, and they did...
They did their job by not doing their job? :crazy:
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focus
their job is to vote, and they did...
And they voted for what?
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focus
i already posted what they voted...
And they voted for what?
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focus
i already posted what they voted...
You mean the funding for the wars?
I didn't say anything about the funding for wars. Funding for wars is not a proxy for a lawfully declared war. Don't excuse congress for not doing their job properly.
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Wait, are we at war with Venezuela?
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Wait, are we at war with Venezuela?
If you're in The Twilight Zone alongside EEF, imagination overrides reality.