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General Topics => Political Discussion => Topic started by: eyeeatingfish on January 17, 2026, 01:25:15 AM
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The Trump administration has expressed interest in acquiring Greenland. People in the Trump administration have explained it as if it were a land purchase but Denmark has said it isn't for sale. Trump has hinted that the US needs it and would take it one way or the other, saying anything other than US control is unnacceptable.
Now a number of European countries and Nato partners have been sending contingents of soldiers to Greenland. This could be seen as a middle finger to Trump but I have also seen it explained as a gesture that NATO countries do take seriously obligations to protect NATO territory in light of criticisms that they don't do enough for European defense.
Best case scenario Trump backs off and plays it off as just an offer to buy Greenland. Worst case scenario Denmark and Greenlanders refuse the officer, Trump takes military action and then... WW3?
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tldr- trump bad...
The Trump administration has expressed interest in acquiring Greenland. People in the Trump administration have explained it as if it were a land purchase but Denmark has said it isn't for sale. Trump has hinted that the US needs it and would take it one way or the other, saying anything other than US control is unnacceptable.
Now a number of European countries and Nato partners have been sending contingents of soldiers to Greenland. This could be seen as a middle finger to Trump but I have also seen it explained as a gesture that NATO countries do take seriously obligations to protect NATO territory in light of criticisms that they don't do enough for European defense.
Best case scenario Trump backs off and plays it off as just an offer to buy Greenland. Worst case scenario Denmark and Greenlanders refuse the officer, Trump takes military action and then... WW3?
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The Trump administration has expressed interest in acquiring Greenland. People in the Trump administration have explained it as if it were a land purchase but Denmark has said it isn't for sale. Trump has hinted that the US needs it and would take it one way or the other, saying anything other than US control is unnacceptable.
Now a number of European countries and Nato partners have been sending contingents of soldiers to Greenland. This could be seen as a middle finger to Trump but I have also seen it explained as a gesture that NATO countries do take seriously obligations to protect NATO territory in light of criticisms that they don't do enough for European defense.
Best case scenario Trump backs off and plays it off as just an offer to buy Greenland. Worst case scenario Denmark and Greenlanders refuse the officer, Trump takes military action and then... WW3?
Denmark’s own intelligence assessment notes Russian and China maneuvering for control of Greenland, so Trump isn’t making it up - there really are important interests at stake.
In this case, I too am uncomfortable with his rhetoric though, and agree with the hope/expectation that it is intended to get a lawful process to increase U.S. interests there off the dime.
Its a strange situation, but until the Second Coming, it is a dangerous world, oftentimes controlled by evil men.
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Trump is doing it again. He got the Europeans to spend more on defense and now they need to do more.
Trump knows that many of the leaders have TDS. He also knows how to force them to do his bidding.
France, UK, Germany, Sweden, Denmark, etc. have pledged to send troops to defend Green Land from the orange man.
They have already landed a HUUUUGE number of troops there. All 34 of them. Oh Well at least it's a start.
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Who's going to join the Rough Riders, and sail to Greenland and take it by force? This is the best way to show your support for MAGA Don.
If he wants to take over Greenland, offer Denmark a huge share of the gold in Fort Knox. Only an idiot will accept fiat Federal Reserve notes. Threats of violence are unseemly.
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Denmark’s own intelligence assessment notes Russian and China maneuvering for control of Greenland, so Trump isn’t making it up - there really are important interests at stake.
China hasn't been near the island for a decade. Trump is literally a moron and stupid when it comes to anything that requires critical thinking and a well thought out decision.
The United States reduced their presence on Greenland voluntarily and if the United States had a serious desire they could increase troops and and military installations on the island with the blessing of Denmark and NATO. Instead Trump is such a moron he threatens World War III with freaking Europe and Canada. Where did he learn to be such a diplomat? My guess is he learned from from his buddy the pedofile Epstein.
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first post in over a year and straight to, "but but but but Epstein!"
lul
China hasn't been near the island for a decade. Trump is literally a moron and stupid when it comes to anything that requires critical thinking and a well thought out decision.
The United States reduced their presence on Greenland voluntarily and if the United States had a serious desire they could increase troops and and military installations on the island with the blessing of Denmark and NATO. Instead Trump is such a moron he threatens World War III with freaking Europe and Canada. Where did he learn to be such a diplomat? My guess is he learned from from his buddy the pedofile Epstein.
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first post in over a year and straight to, "but but but but Epstein!"
lul
sales are slow
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first post in over a year and straight to, "but but but but Epstein!"
lul
Apparently you were also unable to discern the main point. Trump minions are just like their leader.
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China hasn't been near the island for a decade. Trump is literally a moron and stupid when it comes to anything that requires critical thinking and a well thought out decision.
The United States reduced their presence on Greenland voluntarily and if the United States had a serious desire they could increase troops and and military installations on the island with the blessing of Denmark and NATO. Instead Trump is such a moron he threatens World War III with freaking Europe and Canada. Where did he learn to be such a diplomat? My guess is he learned from from his buddy the pedofile Epstein.
Jerk
“Russia, China and the United States have diverging
interests in the Arctic, but all three countries seek to
play a greater role in the region. In recent years, the
United States has significantly increased its security
policy focus on the Arctic, while Russia continues its
military build-up, and China continues to develop its
capacity to operate both submarines and surface
vessels in the region.”
From the Danish intelligence services 2025 risk assessment.
https://www.fe-ddis.dk/en/produkter/Risk_assessment/riskassessment/intelligence-outlook-2025/
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your main point was wrong
china is involved in mineral rights deals that are under dispute...
Apparently you were also unable to discern the main point. Trump minions are just like their leader.
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trump has powered mortgage rates, so his business should be picking up...
sales are slow
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and fishing
and tourism...
but i am just a trump minion...
your main point was wrong
china is involved in mineral rights deals that are under dispute...
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4d chess. NATO puts up a fight when its the US cause of TDS.
Then we back off and if china or russia try, NATO showed their hand at what theyre willing to do.
Orangeman bad feelings being used against them.
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4d chess. NATO puts up a fight when its the US cause of TDS.
Then we back off and if china or russia try, NATO showed their hand at what theyre willing to do.
Orangeman bad feelings being used against them.
So you support the Trump threat of war against Europe. No more pastry for you it is making you crazy.
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So you support the Trump threat of war against Europe.
Yes. And don’t forget Canada
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So you support the Trump threat of war against Europe. No more pastry for you it is making you crazy.
Wow, ur imagination is weird.
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Jerk
“Russia, China and the United States have diverging
interests in the Arctic, but all three countries seek to
play a greater role in the region. In recent years, the
United States has significantly increased its security
policy focus on the Arctic, while Russia continues its
military build-up, and China continues to develop its
capacity to operate both submarines and surface
vessels in the region.”
From the Danish intelligence services 2025 risk assessment.
https://www.fe-ddis.dk/en/produkter/Risk_assessment/riskassessment/intelligence-outlook-2025/
So eef was wrong like usual.
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Yes. And don’t forget Canada
Nice
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Nice
Canada isn’t a legitimate country anymore. Their elections are stolen, the people have no rights, and now they are handing over control to the CCP. It’s in our vital national interest to invade and prevent a failed state on our northern border.
https://thenationalpulse.com/2026/01/16/canadas-carney-sells-out-to-the-ccp-after-trump-trade-clash/
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tldr- trump bad...
That's some hardcore ADD especially given the neutral presentation of the story.
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Trump is doing it again. He got the Europeans to spend more on defense and now they need to do more.
Trump knows that many of the leaders have TDS. He also knows how to force them to do his bidding.
I wish Trump were that clever. Sadly that is remotely believable.
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So eef was wrong like usual.
Point to what I said that was factually incorrect.
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How many happy meals would it take to buy Greenland?
https://youtu.be/-rRjWKX8Ml4
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i guess you haven't seen the number of troops that were sent
a few dozen total for all of NATO
not exactly showing they are taking things seriously...
The Trump administration has expressed interest in acquiring Greenland. People in the Trump administration have explained it as if it were a land purchase but Denmark has said it isn't for sale. Trump has hinted that the US needs it and would take it one way or the other, saying anything other than US control is unnacceptable.
Now a number of European countries and Nato partners have been sending contingents of soldiers to Greenland. This could be seen as a middle finger to Trump but I have also seen it explained as a gesture that NATO countries do take seriously obligations to protect NATO territory in light of criticisms that they don't do enough for European defense.
Best case scenario Trump backs off and plays it off as just an offer to buy Greenland. Worst case scenario Denmark and Greenlanders refuse the officer, Trump takes military action and then... WW3?
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in my ADD world, neutral is 50-50
your OP was well over 2/1 "orange man bad"...
not sure what type of 'tism you have that says that is neutral...
That's some hardcore ADD especially given the neutral presentation of the story.
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they are taking it so seriously that germany has already withdrawn what few troops it sent
bruh...
i guess you haven't seen the number of troops that were sent
a few dozen total for all of NATO
not exactly showing they are taking things seriously...
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Point to what I said that was factually incorrect.
WTF is that word salad made-up sh!t. Just man up to it and say you were wrong!
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https://youtu.be/jpKEzFZYqBg
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Point to what I said that was factually incorrect.
Read
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Point to what I said that was factually incorrect.
WTF is that word salad made-up sh!t. Just man up to it and say you were wrong!
Kamala-lese............
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Canada isn’t a legitimate country anymore. Their elections are stolen, the people have no rights, and now they are handing over control to the CCP.
First, we, the citizens, may have a right to comment about another country, i.e., Canada or Greenland, but we have no right to speak for Canada, Greenland or Denmark.
If you believe that there are enough Canadians to hand over control of their country to the CCP, you must be drinking too many diet cokes, like Trump. Visit Canada and speak to real citizens to ask them their reaction to tariffs imposed by the U.S. vs. China. Canadians feel betrayed by the US.
IMHO, the US handed over its manufacturing base to the CCP starting with Nixon and Kissinger. Most fat cat US capitalists have sold their country to the commies, and these rich men are laughing their way to the bank, 24/7.
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First, we, the citizens, may have a right to comment about another country, i.e., Canada or Greenland, but we have no right to speak for Canada, Greenland or Denmark.
If you believe that there are enough Canadians to hand over control of their country to the CCP, you must be drinking too many diet cokes, like Trump. Visit Canada and speak to real citizens to ask them their reaction to tariffs imposed by the U.S. vs. China. Canadians feel betrayed by the US.
IMHO, the US handed over its manufacturing base to the CCP starting with Nixon and Kissinger. Most fat cat US capitalists have sold their country to the commies, and these rich men are laughing their way to the bank, 24/7.
They froze people’s bank accounts for donating to the trucker protest. It’s a tin pot dictatorship and we would be welcomed as liberators.
I say start with Alberta. Let them vote to secede and then on the first sign of election fraud our tanks roll in. The rest of the nation will come to its senses after a long winter with no oil.
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They froze people’s bank accounts for donating to the trucker protest. It’s a tin pot dictatorship and we would be welcomed as liberators.
I say start with Alberta. Let them vote to secede and then on the first sign of election fraud our tanks roll in. The rest of the nation will come to its senses after a long winter with no oil.
UK, Canada, New Zealand, Australia.
So sad all the soldiers they lost fighting the Axis Powers, only to slouch their way deep into clutches of the exact same authoritarianism they supposedly defeated.
History is cruel, but the arc of authoritarianism is crystal clear now.
Same as it ever was.
Don’t take our word for it:
A 100-year-old British World War II veteran lamented that the current state of the United Kingdom was not the one he and his comrades fought for in World War II in an interview on Friday.
"My message is, I can see in my mind’s eye, rows and rows of white stones, of all the hundreds of my friends and everybody else, that gave their lives – for what?" he replied to the show’s hosts. "The country of today… No, I'm sorry, the sacrifice wasn’t worth the result that it is now."
https://www.foxnews.com/media/wwii-veteran-says-britain-today-wasnt-worth-his-friends-sacrifice-less-free-than-his-youth
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i guess you haven't seen the number of troops that were sent
a few dozen total for all of NATO
not exactly showing they are taking things seriously...
Nope, I saw the numbers. Yup, not very many.
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Read
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So what you are saying is you can't. Gotcha.
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WTF is that word salad made-up sh!t. Just man up to it and say you were wrong!
What did I say that was incorrect?
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in my ADD world, neutral is 50-50
your OP was well over 2/1 "orange man bad"...
not sure what type of 'tism you have that says that is neutral...
You see what you want to see.
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UK, Canada, New Zealand, Australia.
We can save one. That’s better than nothing.
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We can save one. That’s better than nothing.
And this is where the old guy says “I like the cut of your jib, son.”
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(https://www.zerohedge.com/s3/files/inline-images/greenlandvenezueal.jpg?itok=AB8p5wSV)
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so you lied when you said that the NATO countries were taking things seriously
got it...
Nope, I saw the numbers. Yup, not very many.
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First, we, the citizens, may have a right to comment about another country, i.e., Canada or Greenland, but we have no right to speak for Canada, Greenland or Denmark.
If you believe that there are enough Canadians to hand over control of their country to the CCP, you must be drinking too many diet cokes, like Trump. Visit Canada and speak to real citizens to ask them their reaction to tariffs imposed by the U.S. vs. China. Canadians feel betrayed by the US.
IMHO, the US handed over its manufacturing base to the CCP starting with Nixon and Kissinger. Most fat cat US capitalists have sold their country to the commies, and these rich men are laughing their way to the bank, 24/7.
You are on to something here. Canada, like the US is fooling/controlling their citizens via the fake news. I have seen in my Vegas FB groups that they're all saying the same thing. They won't come to Vegas due to Trump and the tariffs. I would say about 80% who post about why they're not coming state this. The other 20% say it's cheaper to go elsewhere as the Canada dollar is weaker here than other places.
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So what you are saying is you can't. Gotcha.
Wow, imaginging things again. Welcome back.
Read.
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You are on to something here. Canada, like the US is fooling/controlling their citizens via the fake news. I have seen in my Vegas FB groups that they're all saying the same thing. They won't come to Vegas due to Trump and the tariffs. I would say about 80% who post about why they're not coming state this. The other 20% say it's cheaper to go elsewhere as the Canada dollar is weaker here than other places.
Besides taking their massive censorship infrastructure into account, it’s important to examine which provinces those sentiments are coming from. Resource rich Alberta pays everyone’s bills but gets no respect. B.C. Is full of Chinese real estate gangsters. Ontario is attacking our border with fentanyl and illegals. Nova Scotia banned people from walking in the woods because Climate Change. The Quebecois are just now starting to figure out that the English aren’t their greatest enemy.
On the bright side if you don’t like being impoverished to the point of starvation by tyrannical clowns then a doctor can always write you a prescription to kill yourself
(https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/002/495/035/abd.jpg)
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Besides taking their massive censorship infrastructure into account, it’s important to examine which provinces those sentiments are coming from. Resource rich Alberta pays everyone’s bills but gets no respect. B.C. Is full of Chinese real estate gangsters. Ontario is attacking our border with fentanyl and illegals. Nova Scotia banned people from walking in the woods because Climate Change. The Quebecois are just now starting to figure out that the English aren’t their greatest enemy.
On the bright side if you don’t like being impoverished to the point of starvation by tyrannical clowns then a doctor can always write you a prescription to kill yourself
(https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/002/495/035/abd.jpg)
Stinging indictments all, and all true.
As “Progressives” they’re desperately trying to drag humanity back into - and right through - the dark ages.
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You are on to something here. Canada, like the US is fooling/controlling their citizens via the fake news. I have seen in my Vegas FB groups that they're all saying the same thing. They won't come to Vegas due to Trump and the tariffs. I would say about 80% who post about why they're not coming state this. The other 20% say it's cheaper to go elsewhere as the Canada dollar is weaker here than other places.
I forgot to add that on top of the tariff reason, Canadians are under the impression also that
Americans hate them
They will be arrested for entering the country legally
How to control people 101, control the flow of information.
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so you lied when you said that the NATO countries were taking things seriously
got it...
FOCUS
I said
"This could be seen as a middle finger to Trump but I have also seen it explained as a gesture that NATO countries do take seriously obligations to protect NATO territory in light of criticisms that they don't do enough for European defense."
I made no statement of whether they were taking things seriously.
Reading comprehension is hard.
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lul
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpaZ1Sy2Kfk
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lul
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpaZ1Sy2Kfk
Hey, that's not military action.
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maybe it's a gesture that NATO is taking things seriously...
Hey, that's not military action.
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good thing no one here was acting like this...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8tRBK8ncDw
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRxzVPeI1hQ
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Well said Macsak. If Denmark or Nato had taken care of matters, Daddy Trump would not have to
step in with a heavy hand. Denmark had promised to spend millions more on defense but they did not.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GoHieAjZi0
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZmpkh0w2B4
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Just incase someone here isn't paying attention, the deal also has the area around Greenland. U know, that report from Denmark...
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good thing no one here acted like this...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvIACLEjEQY
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It is amazing how Trump can threaten and talk big and tough and MAGA will justify every argument Trump makes and then when Trump backs down MAGA then believes it was some master class at negotiation. Why parrot his dumber talking points if you really knew it was an act the whole time?
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It is amazing how Trump can threaten and talk big and tough and MAGA will justify every argument Trump makes and then when Trump backs down MAGA then believes it was some master class at negotiation. Why parrot his dumber talking points if you really knew it was an act the whole time?
Wrong, as MAGA doesn't back up everything he says. Most recent example "you cannot protest with a gun".
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Wrong, as MAGA doesn't back up everything he says. Most recent example "you cannot protest with a gun".
A single example doesn't really disprove my point though.
I have head a number of MAGA people make that type of statement, however I am glad to hear you break with him on something.
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A single example doesn't really disprove my point though.
I have head a number of MAGA people make that type of statement, however I am glad to hear you break with him on something.
False.
You said, "It is amazing how Trump can threaten and talk big and tough and MAGA will justify every argument Trump makes...".
The word "every" is an absolute that means all and without exception.
So, yes, one exception absolutely disproves your point. When you use an unqualified absolute, one exception is all that's needed to prove it false.
If you want to win debates, you really should study the English language. Your use of the language and the arguments you make illustrate you don't know enough to really have an intelligent conversation. it's why so many of your posts devolve into disagreements over the meaning of common words and phrases.
You usually hedge your arguments with qualifiers to allow you some wiggle room using words like almost and nearly. i guess when you have so many old posts to catch up on in an evening, you wind up blasting out the first thing on your mind without adding the wiggle room.
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False.
You said, "It is amazing how Trump can threaten and talk big and tough and MAGA will justify every argument Trump makes...".
The word "every" is an absolute that means all and without exception.
So, yes, one exception absolutely disproves your point. When you use an unqualified absolute, one exception is all that's needed to prove it false.
If you want to win debates, you really should study the English language. Your use of the language and the arguments you make illustrate you don't know enough to really have an intelligent conversation. it's why so many of your posts devolve into disagreements over the meaning of common words and phrases.
You usually hedge your arguments with qualifiers to allow you some wiggle room using words like almost and nearly. i guess when you have so many old posts to catch up on in an evening, you wind up blasting out the first thing on your mind without adding the wiggle room.
I meant that generally, not literally, but fair enough, by a strict reading of the sentence you are right.
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I meant that generally, not literally, but fair enough, by a strict reading of the sentence you are right.
Goal posts not just moving, but catapulting!!
:rofl: :rofl:
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lul
gets caught not adding a qualifier like he always does and then adds a qualifier
goalposts moved...
I meant that generally, not literally, but fair enough, by a strict reading of the sentence you are right.
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A single example doesn't really disprove my point though.
I have head a number of MAGA people make that type of statement, however I am glad to hear you break with him on something.
It does as you stated
"MAGA will justify every argument Trump makes"
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EEF will say
"i know that's what i said, but it wasn't what i meant"...
It does as you stated
"MAGA will justify every argument Trump makes"
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EEF will say
"i know that's what i said, but it wasn't what i meant"...
He's expecting people to be bulimic (able to read minds).