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Title: Hawaii joins anti ICE protests
Post by: ren on January 30, 2026, 07:20:28 PM
I don;t see how halting education and economic activity is a productive way to protest ICE operations.

https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2026/01/31/small-businesses-stay-open-during-nationwide-shutdown-citing-financial-reality/

https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2026/01/31/maui-high-schoolers-join-nationwide-anti-ice-protest/
Title: Re: Hawaii joins anti ICE protests
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on January 30, 2026, 07:30:26 PM
I don;t see how halting education and economic activity is a productive way to protest ICE operations.

https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2026/01/31/small-businesses-stay-open-during-nationwide-shutdown-citing-financial-reality/

https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2026/01/31/maui-high-schoolers-join-nationwide-anti-ice-protest/
Nothing demonstrates you're teaching our kids to be productive citizens quite like using them to protest against removing illegal non-citizens.

Aren't there laws against aiding and abetting criminals in the commission of their crimes?

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Aiding and abetting refers to the act of helping or encouraging another
person to commit a crime, making the aider or abettor criminally liable
to the same extent as the principal offender. This legal doctrine allows
for prosecution even if the person who aided or abetted was not directly
involved in the crime itself.
Title: Re: Hawaii joins anti ICE protests
Post by: Kalihi Uka on January 30, 2026, 10:15:58 PM
Nice list of “businesses” to avoid - although it takes no effort,  as I would never patronize these anyway.

Tiny handful of fringe businesses in Kaimuki yapping about the enforcement of laws that every administration prior to the last one enforced - at which time they could care less.

Thanks HawaiiNewsNow for yet another pathetic propaganda piece.

Hopefully, all similarly-minded “businesses” will jump on this awesome bandwagon and close or otherwise self identify, so we can watch them die a suitable death.
Title: Re: Hawaii joins anti ICE protests
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on January 31, 2026, 12:17:13 AM
Nice list of “businesses” to avoid - although it takes no effort,  as I would never patronize these anyway.

Tiny handful of fringe businesses in Kaimuki yapping about the enforcement of laws that every administration prior to the last one enforced - at which time they could care less.

Thanks HawaiiNewsNow for yet another pathetic propaganda piece.

Hopefully, all similarly-minded “businesses” will jump on this awesome bandwagon and close or otherwise self identify, so we can watch them die a suitable death.
That's why boycotts really don't work nowadays unless they become reverse-boycotts -- in which case the opposite outcome is achieved.  Chick-Fil-A was a perfect example.

The people trying to organize a boycott are usually the types who don't frequently support those companies with their patronage.  So, threatening to withhold money most of your group never spends there to start with has no teeth.  Unless they convince the 'other side' to join the boycott, the boycott withers on the vine.  The people agree with the companies' opinions and enjoy spending their money there aren't going to be talked into action that has no merit no matter how emotional the appeals.

In most recent cases, the people who disagree with the boycott's basis get together and advertise a day to go support the business with purchases.  They boost sales so much, it turns the boycott into the best sales the company has ever seen.  It shows that the radical left wing nuts do not have the power to run anyone out of business, mainly because their beliefs and causes are insane if not just plain stupid.



Title: Re: Hawaii joins anti ICE protests
Post by: hvybarrels on January 31, 2026, 01:26:36 AM
You can’t spell Kaimuki without “testosterone”

Oh wait you totally can…
Title: Re: Hawaii joins anti ICE protests
Post by: Kalihi Uka on January 31, 2026, 06:54:19 AM
That's why boycotts really don't work nowadays unless they become reverse-boycotts -- in which case the opposite outcome is achieved.  Chick-Fil-A was a perfect example.

The people trying to organize a boycott are usually the types who don't frequently support those companies with their patronage.  So, threatening to withhold money most of your group never spends there to start with has no teeth.  Unless they convince the 'other side' to join the boycott, the boycott withers on the vine.  The people agree with the companies' opinions and enjoy spending their money there aren't going to be talked into action that has no merit no matter how emotional the appeals.

In most recent cases, the people who disagree with the boycott's basis get together and advertise a day to go support the business with purchases.  They boost sales so much, it turns the boycott into the best sales the company has ever seen.  It shows that the radical left wing nuts do not have the power to run anyone out of business, mainly because their beliefs and causes are insane if not just plain stupid.
Yep, there is no dimension of civil society that they will leave undefiled in their never-ending quest to create hell on earth.

Must be a cry for help in getting to their sweaty subterranean Valhalla.

Makes you want to give them a shove in the right direction…
Title: Re: Hawaii joins anti ICE protests
Post by: macsak on January 31, 2026, 07:20:25 AM
i was wondering why they had this story the other night
then the bills come out about banning weapons training and brandishing dangerous weapons

the media is a dangerous weapon...
Title: Re: Hawaii joins anti ICE protests
Post by: Kalihi Uka on January 31, 2026, 09:34:42 AM
You can’t spell Kaimuki without “testosterone”

Oh wait you totally can…
Unfortunately true.

Nice work as usual.
Title: Re: Hawaii joins anti ICE protests
Post by: QUIETShooter on January 31, 2026, 10:01:26 AM
Interesting that these small businesses want to support the cause but know that reality kicks in as far as looking out for their livelihood and their employees.  Good for them.

Interesting that the asshats that started this movement don't give a shit about all of the above.

In addition, they must love the closing of the schools.  Especially during the BS covid times.  They love to keep the children stupid.  Easier to douse them with their communist brainwashing rhetoric.
Title: Re: Hawaii joins anti ICE protests
Post by: hvybarrels on February 01, 2026, 01:40:10 PM
There's no coincidence regarding the timing that the riots and protests take place just when the massive Democratic Party fraud machine gets exposed.

Uncle Tim's Learing center.... Riots
Los Angeles Hospice industrial complex... Riots
Honolulu $35,000 cash bribe in a paper bag... Protests

The media is trying very hard to keep people from noticing that the entire DNC needs to be brought up on RICO charges

https://youtu.be/M0F0YT7yYu4

Title: Re: Hawaii joins anti ICE protests
Post by: astroboy on February 01, 2026, 02:04:53 PM
The leftists believe their mission is to have complete control of the kids.
The indoctrination is non stop. Neva mind teaching them real life skills.
The 3 Rs now stand for RIOT RIOT RIOT against anyone who disagrees..
Title: Re: Hawaii joins anti ICE protests
Post by: QUIETShooter on February 02, 2026, 08:12:33 AM
The leftists believe their mission is to have complete control of the kids.
The indoctrination is non stop. Neva mind teaching them real life skills.
The 3 Rs now stand for RIOT RIOT RIOT against anyone who disagrees..

Instead of teaching the children how to think for themselves,

They teach them how to THINK LIKE THEM. :grrr:
Title: Re: Hawaii joins anti ICE protests
Post by: eyeeatingfish on February 04, 2026, 02:10:13 AM
I don;t see how halting education and economic activity is a productive way to protest ICE operations.

https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2026/01/31/small-businesses-stay-open-during-nationwide-shutdown-citing-financial-reality/

https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2026/01/31/maui-high-schoolers-join-nationwide-anti-ice-protest/

I don't get this either. Trump couldn't care one bit if Minnesota or Hawaii halts shopping for a day. It's not even like it will even significantly the amount of taxes either so what's the point beyond a feel good response for them?
Title: Re: Hawaii joins anti ICE protests
Post by: changemyoil66 on February 04, 2026, 08:50:01 AM
I don't get this either. Trump couldn't care one bit if Minnesota or Hawaii halts shopping for a day. It's not even like it will even significantly the amount of taxes either so what's the point beyond a feel good response for them?

Those with TDS don't think with logic. 
Title: Re: Hawaii joins anti ICE protests
Post by: QUIETShooter on February 04, 2026, 09:56:54 AM
When "they" call for a nationwide shutdown of businesses, schools, and work it shows they don't give a flying f*ck about anything or anybody except their agenda.

After all, somebody is paying them to do what they do.  They don't care.  They getting paid.
Title: Re: Hawaii joins anti ICE protests
Post by: hvybarrels on February 04, 2026, 11:06:38 AM
When "they" call for a nationwide shutdown of businesses, schools, and work it shows they don't give a flying f*ck about anything or anybody except their agenda.

After all, somebody is paying them to do what they do.  They don't care.  They getting paid.

If Trump can break the funding loop the paid agitators will stay home.

He had better hurry up because if they get back into power again we are all going to the gulag.
Title: Re: Hawaii joins anti ICE protests
Post by: eyeeatingfish on February 04, 2026, 10:11:48 PM
Those with TDS don't think with logic.

Not all protesters have TDS though.

It just seems short sighted so I am trying to figure out if I missed something or they don't understand Trump very well.
Title: Re: Hawaii joins anti ICE protests
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on February 04, 2026, 11:18:09 PM
Not all protesters have TDS though.

It just seems short sighted so I am trying to figure out if I missed something or they don't understand Trump very well.
How do you know that?  Most polls and interviews with protestors asking why they are protesting now and they didn't when Obama was deporting even more than Trump, their answers are the same: because this time it's Trump.

TDS is the common denominator.  please provide your own evidence that not all protestors have TDS.  i don't think you can, because your belief is false.

Mass deportation: Who was more 'inhumane' -- Obama or Trump?

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What a difference an administration makes. Or rather, what a difference
the media coverage of an administration makes.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/mass-deportation-who-was-more-inhumane-obama-or-trump/ar-AA1VGbSN

That pretty much sums it up.  Without the TDS factor being stoked by a Progressive anti-Trump media, people would be blissfully turning a blind eye to the deportations -- because they did it already under Obama.
Title: Re: Hawaii joins anti ICE protests
Post by: eyeeatingfish on February 05, 2026, 12:55:59 AM
How do you know that?  Most polls and interviews with protestors asking why they are protesting now and they didn't when Obama was deporting even more than Trump, their answers are the same: because this time it's Trump.

TDS is the common denominator.  please provide your own evidence that not all protestors have TDS.  i don't think you can, because your belief is false.

First prove all protestors have TDS.


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That pretty much sums it up.  Without the TDS factor being stoked by a Progressive anti-Trump media, people would be blissfully turning a blind eye to the deportations -- because they did it already under Obama.

That is not a perfect comparison though, the way ICE is being managed under Obama is not the same as it is being managed under Trump. Yeah, same agency and Obama had loads of deportations but there is a lot going wrong in ICE right now. When Trump first started he had sizeable support on immigration but he has squandered much of that away with how he is handling things. Illegal immigration should have been his biggest success story.
Title: Re: Hawaii joins anti ICE protests
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on February 05, 2026, 01:08:11 AM
First prove all protestors have TDS.


That is not a perfect comparison though, the way ICE is being managed under Obama is not the same as it is being managed under Trump. Yeah, same agency and Obama had loads of deportations but there is a lot going wrong in ICE right now. When Trump first started he had sizeable support on immigration but he has squandered much of that away with how he is handling things. Illegal immigration should have been his biggest success story.
Prove they don't "all" have it.  All it takes is one -- we already went through that in another thread, remember? 

It should be earlier for you to find the exception than demand that I canvass every single protestor -- an impossibility since many of them are masked and refuse to show their faces on camera.

The mere fact that they are protesting this president and not Obama is evidence enough of TDS.  They certainly aren't basing it on facts.  If they were, they'd be staying home or going to work.
Title: Re: Hawaii joins anti ICE protests
Post by: eyeeatingfish on February 05, 2026, 02:33:57 AM
Prove they don't "all" have it.  All it takes is one -- we already went through that in another thread, remember? 


Nice try. that doesn't absolve the other poster from proving their blanket statement first. Saying I only have to give you one example doesn't put the burden of proof on me, it still rests on the person making the claim.

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It should be earlier for you to find the exception than demand that I canvass every single protestor -- an impossibility since many of them are masked and refuse to show their faces on camera.

Since you won't (and can't realistically) psychoanalyze every protester then maybe don't go making blanket statements...

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The mere fact that they are protesting this president and not Obama is evidence enough of TDS. 

Therein lies the rub, essentially arguing that opposing Trump is proof enough to qualify someone for TDS. I already pointed out to you that what happened under Obama is different enough to not be a fair comparison. Yes there is knee jerk reaction to anything Trump does (TDS) but there is also plenty of stuff Trump does to object to without being someone with TDS.

Plus I think I could count someone on the right with ODS for ever person on the left with TDS so we are hardly talking about a side specific phenomenon.
Title: Re: Hawaii joins anti ICE protests
Post by: ren on February 05, 2026, 07:04:04 AM

Nice try. that doesn't absolve the other poster from proving their blanket statement first. Saying I only have to give you one example doesn't put the burden of proof on me, it still rests on the person making the claim.

Since you won't (and can't realistically) psychoanalyze every protester then maybe don't go making blanket statements...

Therein lies the rub, essentially arguing that opposing Trump is proof enough to qualify someone for TDS. I already pointed out to you that what happened under Obama is different enough to not be a fair comparison. Yes there is knee jerk reaction to anything Trump does (TDS) but there is also plenty of stuff Trump does to object to without being someone with TDS.

Plus I think I could count someone on the right with ODS for ever person on the left with TDS so we are hardly talking about a side specific phenomenon.

You are not smart.
Title: Re: Hawaii joins anti ICE protests
Post by: QUIETShooter on February 05, 2026, 07:29:15 AM
How do you know that?  Most polls and interviews with protestors asking why they are protesting now and they didn't when Obama was deporting even more than Trump, their answers are the same: because this time it's Trump.

TDS is the common denominator.  please provide your own evidence that not all protestors have TDS.  i don't think you can, because your belief is false.

Mass deportation: Who was more 'inhumane' -- Obama or Trump?
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/mass-deportation-who-was-more-inhumane-obama-or-trump/ar-AA1VGbSN

That pretty much sums it up.  Without the TDS factor being stoked by a Progressive anti-Trump media, people would be blissfully turning a blind eye to the deportations -- because they did it already under Obama.

Bill O'Reilly went straight out and said it.  He brought up the above facts and figures and made the conclusion that the only difference is President Trump.  I shared his video somewhere here on one of the threads.

They.  Hate.  Trump.

T.  D.  S.

 
Title: Re: Hawaii joins anti ICE protests
Post by: QUIETShooter on February 05, 2026, 07:34:26 AM
You are not smart.

I'm not either but even a doofus like me can see that under the Obama regime, there was cooperation.

Nobody took to the streets, obstructed ICE, tried to run them over, or kick their tailights in while screaming at them, biting off their fingers, etc.

Nobody gave a shiite.

"What's that?  An ICE operation?  That's harsh, man."

"Yeah.  Obama's doing a nationwide, full on crackdown"

"He is?  Oh OK.  It's cool then".

High Five each other. :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Title: Re: Hawaii joins anti ICE protests
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on February 05, 2026, 08:11:32 AM

[snip]
Since you won't (and can't realistically) psychoanalyze every protester then maybe don't go making blanket statements...
[snip]
Maybe you should take your own advice in light of the number of times you've pretended to label everyone here who agrees with Trump as MAGA lemmings who support everything he says and does without exception.

How many times have you been accused of believing you can read people's minds without ever meeting them?
Title: Re: Hawaii joins anti ICE protests
Post by: changemyoil66 on February 05, 2026, 08:16:02 AM
I'm not either but even a doofus like me can see that under the Obama regime, there was cooperation.

Nobody took to the streets, obstructed ICE, tried to run them over, or kick their tailights in while screaming at them, biting off their fingers, etc.

Nobody gave a shiite.

"What's that?  An ICE operation?  That's harsh, man."

"Yeah.  Obama's doing a nationwide, full on crackdown"

"He is?  Oh OK.  It's cool then".

High Five each other. :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

The media had his back.
Title: Re: Hawaii joins anti ICE protests
Post by: changemyoil66 on February 05, 2026, 08:16:56 AM
Not all protesters have TDS though.

It just seems short sighted so I am trying to figure out if I missed something or they don't understand Trump very well.

Not all, but I would guess many do.  Because ALL implies 100%.
Title: Re: Hawaii joins anti ICE protests
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on February 05, 2026, 08:19:35 AM
Not all, but I would guess many do.  Because ALL implies 100%.
He's more about arguing over 100% vs. not 100% than realizing that any percentage over 50% is enough to drive a mob to irrational behavior.
Title: Re: Hawaii joins anti ICE protests
Post by: Kalihi Uka on February 05, 2026, 08:54:08 AM
I'm not either but even a doofus like me can see that under the Obama regime, there was cooperation.

Nobody took to the streets, obstructed ICE, tried to run them over, or kick their tailights in while screaming at them, biting off their fingers, etc.

Nobody gave a shiite.

"What's that?  An ICE operation?  That's harsh, man."

"Yeah.  Obama's doing a nationwide, full on crackdown"

"He is?  Oh OK.  It's cool then".

High Five each other. :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
This here is the exact truth.

…. and we know why - this is the lynchpin strategy for their “final solution” for the U.S. - the last piece to cement permanent subversion of our representative democracy.

This is THE existential fight for our nation.

PS - sorry, I meant the 2nd.  They lost the first attempt.
Title: Re: Hawaii joins anti ICE protests
Post by: Rocky on February 05, 2026, 03:06:42 PM
Not all, but I would guess many do.  Because ALL implies 100%.

Out of that 100%, what percentage voted for Trump ?   :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Title: Re: Hawaii joins anti ICE protests
Post by: eyeeatingfish on February 10, 2026, 01:07:23 PM
You are not smart.

In the land of the blind, the man with one eye is king.
Title: Re: Hawaii joins anti ICE protests
Post by: eyeeatingfish on February 10, 2026, 01:08:29 PM
Not all, but I would guess many do.

I am sure many do.
Title: Re: Hawaii joins anti ICE protests
Post by: ren on February 10, 2026, 01:52:38 PM
In the land of the blind, the man with one eye is king.


open your eyes and you wont be blind
Title: Re: Hawaii joins anti ICE protests
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on February 10, 2026, 06:57:42 PM


open your eyes and you wont be blind
No one is as blind as he who will not see.

You can lead an EEF to water, but you can't make it think!

 :geekdanc:
Title: Re: Hawaii joins anti ICE protests
Post by: ren on February 10, 2026, 07:14:02 PM
No one is as blind as he who will not see.

You can lead an EEF to water, but you can't make it think!

 :geekdanc:

you mean a capable person 7 feet tall can drown in a foot of water?
Title: Re: Hawaii joins anti ICE protests
Post by: mrgaf on February 10, 2026, 07:26:25 PM
I don;t see how halting education and economic activity is a productive way to protest ICE operations.

https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2026/01/31/small-businesses-stay-open-during-nationwide-shutdown-citing-financial-reality/

https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2026/01/31/maui-high-schoolers-join-nationwide-anti-ice-protest/

Yup there are fuck sticks in Maui too!  8)
Title: Re: Hawaii joins anti ICE protests
Post by: hvybarrels on February 10, 2026, 11:03:49 PM
Yup there are fuck sticks in Maui too!  8)

Maui: No mo housing! We gotta shut down all the vacation rentals and pay more taxes!

Also Maui: We need illegals to do crimes, go on welfare and take away housing from locals!