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Title: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
Post by: 2aHawaii on January 17, 2013, 04:01:59 PM
Measure Title: RELATING TO FIREARMS. 
Report Title:  Guns Buy-back Program; Appropriation ($) 
Description:  Appropriates $100,000 to the county police departments to initiate a gun buy-back program. 
Companion:  
Package: None 
Current Referral:   
Introducer(s): ESPERO, BAKER, GALUTERIA, GREEN 


1/17/13 SB69: Introduced. (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)
17 January 2013, 3:00 am

1/17/13 SB69: Senate Status Update

Source: SB69 Status Feed (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)

Title: 1/17/13 SB69: Passed First Reading.
Post by: 2aHawaii on January 17, 2013, 07:00:03 PM
1/17/13 SB69: Passed First Reading. (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)
17 January 2013, 3:00 am

1/17/13 SB69: Senate Status Update

Source: SB69 Status Feed (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)

Title: 1/17/13 SB69: Referred to PSM, WAM.
Post by: 2aHawaii on January 17, 2013, 09:00:07 PM
1/17/13 SB69: Referred to PSM, WAM. (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)
17 January 2013, 3:00 am

1/17/13 SB69: Senate Status Update

Source: SB69 Status Feed (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)

Title: Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
Post by: new guy on January 18, 2013, 09:09:21 AM
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Title: 1/28/13 SB69: The committee(s) on PSM has scheduled a public hearing on 01-31-13 3:00PM in conference room 224.
Post by: 2aH Feed Poster on January 28, 2013, 02:00:16 PM
1/28/13 SB69: The committee(s) on PSM has scheduled a public hearing on 01-31-13  3:00PM in conference room 224. (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)
28 January 2013, 3:00 am

1/28/13 SB69: Senate Status Update

Source: SB69 Status Feed (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)

Title: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
Post by: TeamMidori on January 28, 2013, 02:24:41 PM
If there's a buy back I think we need to make our own on the same day and offer a little more like they did someplace. I want to say New York but I may be mistaken.
Title: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
Post by: TeamMidori on January 28, 2013, 02:32:25 PM
Or Chicago. 
Title: Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
Post by: 2aHawaii on January 28, 2013, 02:34:01 PM
Seattle just had a gun buyback where quite a few private individuals showed up and offered cash instead of the government provided gift cards.
Title: Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
Post by: Bunker on January 28, 2013, 02:57:54 PM
That would be great and funny to boot...if they ever had a gun buy-back program, turn it into a firearm auction of sorts, loaded with all the pro-gun guys buying up everything just above what they can offer. ;D
Title: Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
Post by: Kingkeoni on January 28, 2013, 03:57:45 PM
I'll gladly stand outside the collection facility with a lot of cash
Title: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
Post by: TeamMidori on January 28, 2013, 06:00:36 PM
Might b a good way to get some cheap guns.

2aHawaii buy back!
Calling all sheep!
We pay cash for ur guns.
 Why get crappy gift cards when u can have CASH!
We are located on the sidewalk fronting HPD.
All guns* will be auctioned off with all proceeds going to firearm education.   























*That I don't want.
Title: Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
Post by: hnl.flyboy on January 30, 2013, 03:05:18 AM
I think a few enterprising fellows can pitch in to a large pot, sell on consignment to OGC / X-Ring / Young Guns, etc., then split the proceeds evenly, and send 2aHawaii a decent percentage to support the forum.   :thumbsup:
Title: 1/31/13 SB69: The committee(s) on PSM deferred the measure until 02-07-13 2:45PM in conference room 224.
Post by: 2aH Feed Poster on January 31, 2013, 06:00:05 PM
1/31/13 SB69: The committee(s) on  PSM deferred the measure until 02-07-13  2:45PM in conference room 224. (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)
31 January 2013, 3:00 am

1/31/13 SB69: Senate Status Update

Source: SB69 Status Feed (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)

Title: Re: 1/31/13 SB69: The committee(s) on PSM deferred the measure until 02-07-13 2:45PM in conference
Post by: macsak on January 31, 2013, 06:17:31 PM
deferred?
why?
any reports?

1/31/13 SB69: The committee(s) on  PSM deferred the measure until 02-07-13  2:45PM in conference room 224. (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)
31 January 2013, 3:00 am

1/31/13 SB69: Senate Status Update

Source: SB69 Status Feed (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)
Title: 2/7/13 SB69: The committee(s) on PSM recommend(s) that the measure be PASSED, WITH AMENDMENTS. The votes in PSM were as follows: 3 Aye(s): Senator(s) Espero, Galuteria, Green; Aye(s) with reservations: none ; 1 No(es): Senator(s) Slom; and 1 Excused: Se
Post by: 2aH Feed Poster on February 07, 2013, 06:00:13 PM
2/7/13 SB69: The committee(s) on  PSM recommend(s) that the measure be PASSED, WITH AMENDMENTS.  The votes in PSM were as follows: 3 Aye(s): Senator(s) Espero, Galuteria, Green; Aye(s) with reservations: none ; 1 No(es): Senator(s) Slom; and 1 Excused: Senator(s) Baker. (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)
7 February 2013, 3:00 am

2/7/13 SB69: Senate Status Update

Source: SB69 Status Feed (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)

Title: Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
Post by: new guy on February 07, 2013, 06:13:38 PM
Kinda figured this one would pass.

The way it is drafted, the measure would give $100K to the county police departments this year and next.

Original language is kinda vague as to how the funds can be used ("in support of this program").

Total waste if money.

Anyone know what the amendment added/deleted?
Title: Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
Post by: 2aHawaii on February 08, 2013, 03:58:17 AM
The bill text can be found here: http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/session2013/bills/SB69_.htm (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/session2013/bills/SB69_.htm)

Basically a few paragraphs describing the "horrible" amount of "gun crime" across Hawaii and then appropriating $100k between the Hawaii counties this year and next.
Title: 2/15/13 SB69: Reported from PSM (Stand. Com. Rep. No. 334) with recommendation of passage on Second Reading, as amended (SD 1) and referral to WAM.
Post by: 2aH Feed Poster on February 14, 2013, 03:00:12 PM
2/15/13 SB69: Reported from PSM (Stand. Com. Rep. No. 334) with recommendation of passage on Second Reading, as amended (SD 1) and referral to WAM. (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)
15 February 2013, 3:00 am

2/15/13 SB69: Senate Status Update

Source: SB69 Status Feed (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)

Title: Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
Post by: bass monkey on February 14, 2013, 04:17:48 PM
interesting. I think WAM committee has to vote on it today in order for it to go forward.
Title: 2/15/13 SB69: Report adopted; Passed Second Reading, as amended (SD 1) and referred to WAM.
Post by: 2aH Feed Poster on February 15, 2013, 02:01:09 PM
2/15/13 SB69: Report adopted; Passed Second Reading, as amended (SD 1) and referred to WAM. (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)
15 February 2013, 3:00 am

2/15/13 SB69: Senate Status Update

Source: SB69 Status Feed (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)

Title: 2/15/13 SB69: The committee(s) on WAM has scheduled a public hearing on 02-20-13 9:45AM in conference room 211.
Post by: 2aH Feed Poster on February 15, 2013, 05:00:24 PM
2/15/13 SB69: The committee(s) on WAM has scheduled a public hearing on 02-20-13  9:45AM in conference room 211. (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)
15 February 2013, 3:00 am

2/15/13 SB69: Senate Status Update

Source: SB69 Status Feed (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)

Title: Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
Post by: Hoplite on February 18, 2013, 07:48:46 PM
It's coming up for a hearing again this week at the ways and means commitee.

Go to http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013 (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013) to submit your testamony.

Now they want $200,000 and they aren't sugesting any regulation on how the police can spend it.  Also this bill wants to change the registration law to make it harder to legally register a firearm by creating more protocols for approval.

The hearing right now is scheduled for 2-20-13 at 9:45 AM.
Title: Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
Post by: Heavies on February 18, 2013, 09:29:28 PM
It's coming up for a hearing again this week at the ways and means commitee.

Go to http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013 (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013) to submit your testamony.

Now they want $200,000 and they aren't sugesting any regulation on how the police can spend it.  Also this bill wants to change the registration law to make it harder to legally register a firearm by creating more protocols for approval.

The hearing right now is scheduled for 2-20-13 at 9:45 AM.

Sent a revised testimony opposing the waste of tax dollars and infringement of the rights of new citizens relocating to the state.  I find it very disturbing that even with overwhelming opposition to these bills, a majority pass the vote.    I also sent the testimony to each and every one of them to ensure that any "errors" in processing my testimony does not prevent the committee from receiving my views.
Title: Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
Post by: macsak on February 18, 2013, 09:39:40 PM
submitted
opposed

Sent a revised testimony opposing the waste of tax dollars and infringement of the rights of new citizens relocating to the state.  I find it very disturbing that even with overwhelming opposition to these bills, a majority pass the vote.    I also sent the testimony to each and every one of them to ensure that any "errors" in processing my testimony does not prevent the committee from receiving my views.
Title: Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
Post by: clshade on February 19, 2013, 12:08:57 AM
Fucking idiots. Adding that bullshit as the bill passes through the various hearings even though it completely changes the focus of the bill. Is it any wonder that people don't trust the government?

Submitted opposition.

Democracy, my ass. Who asked for this shit?
Title: Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
Post by: macsak on February 19, 2013, 05:26:31 AM
wow
just read the amendments from the last committee meeting
this is what's gonna go down, people
if any bill passes through any phase, the antis are gonna keep on adding things on at each step, including at crossover/conference committee (where no public comment is allowed)
i hate to say it, but we are screwed

Fucking idiots. Adding that bullshit as the bill passes through the various hearings even though it completely changes the focus of the bill. Is it any wonder that people don't trust the government?

Submitted opposition.

Democracy, my ass. Who asked for this shit?
Title: Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program UPDATE
Post by: hulalady on February 19, 2013, 06:39:18 PM
From the NRA Hawaii:
Senate Bill 69 started off as a Gun "Buyback” bill, but has evolved into a “Gun Safety and Education” bill, and by further amendments has morphed into a gun owner harassment/mental interrogation bill.   SB 69 will be heard tomorrow, February 20, by the Senate Ways and Means Committee (WAM) at 9:45 AM.  This bill, in its current state,  will require fingerprinting and NICS checks in addition to the already existing registration requirement on ALL firearms brought into the state, and will allocate $200,000 to police departments to be used at their discretion for safety and training, gun "buybacks" or extensive background checks for mental health.  Please contact members of the Senate WAM Committee TODAY and respectfully express your opposition to SB 69.

People who bring firearms into Hawaii from another state, even on a temporary basis, are already required to register their firearms within 72 hours.  This bill now adds a fingerprinting AND a background check requirement on the owner in addition to the already burdensome registration requirement on such legally possessed firearms.  These requirements are so onerous that if one acquired an antique firearm or an unusable or unserviceable firearm  they would still have to undergo the entire background check, registration and fingerprinting process.   Hunters and shooters beware, when traveling to Hawaii make sure to allocate at least one or two days to stand in line to register your firearm and undergo fingerprinting and a NICS check in addition to potential “extensive background checks for mental health concerns for certain individuals wishing to register guns,” whatever that means, for a  firearm you already legally possess.

SB 69 leaves several things open to question or interpretation.  For instance, it fails to define what constitutes an “extensive background check” or what constitutes a “mental health concern.”  Without proper definitions, these requirements remain open for interpretation by the local authorities.  Further, could these “extensive background checks” turn a five-day hunting or shooting trip to the islands into ten days of psychoanalysis by the local police sergeant?    In summary, what can be known for sure is that this bill presents no viable solutions that would make improvements to Hawaii, but instead attacks law-abiding citizens who are choosing to exercise the right to own a firearm.

It is very important that you contact members of the Senate WAM Committee IMMEDIATELY and respectfully express your opposition to SB 69.  Contact information for Committee members is provided below.

 

Senate Ways and Means Committee:

David Y. Ige (D-16), Chairman

808-586-6230

sendige@capitol.hawaii.gov

 

Michelle Kindani (D-18), Vice Chairman

808-586-7100

senkidani@capitol.hawaii.gov


Suzanne Chun Oakland (D-13)

808-586-6130

senchunoakland@capitol.hawaii.gov


Donovan Dela Cruz (D-22)

808-586-6090

sendelacruz@capitol.hawaii.gov


J. Kalani English (D-7)

808-587-7225

senenglish@capitol.hawaii.gov


Senator Will Espero (D-19)

(808) 586-6360

senespero@capitol.hawaii.gov

 
Title: 2/20/13 SB69: The committee(s) on WAM deferred the measure until 02-22-13 10:30AM in conference room 211.
Post by: 2aH Feed Poster on February 20, 2013, 02:01:14 PM
2/20/13 SB69: The committee(s) on  WAM deferred the measure until 02-22-13 10:30AM in conference room 211. (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)
20 February 2013, 3:00 am

2/20/13 SB69: Senate Status Update

Source: SB69 Status Feed (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)

Title: Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
Post by: clshade on February 20, 2013, 02:55:37 PM
Skimmed the testimony.

Out of 123 pages only 4 "support" testimonies. None have any reason attached except 1 that stated this will make Hawaii safer from gun violence.

HPD expressed concern over having shoulder the liability of training civilians when there are organizations that already do such trainings - though testimony supported the rest of the bill overall.

I submitted my testimony again, by the way. I've wondered if these kinds of reschedules also reset the testimony count in order to make it appear as if the bill has more support, or less opposition, than it does.
Title: 2/20/13 SB69: The committee(s) on WAM deferred the measure until 02-22-13 10:30AM in conference room 211.
Post by: 2aH Feed Poster on February 20, 2013, 03:00:17 PM
2/20/13 SB69: The committee(s) on  WAM deferred the measure until 02-22-13 10:30AM in conference room 211. (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)
20 February 2013, 3:00 am

2/20/13 SB69: Senate Status Update

Source: SB69 Status Feed (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)

Title: Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
Post by: bass monkey on February 20, 2013, 05:57:37 PM
sweet it got deferred, i can make it down. 

I dont like how after it passes 1 hearing they can amend it and add more things into it.  I wonder who is in the WAM committee.
Title: Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
Post by: TeamMidori on February 20, 2013, 06:07:47 PM
Senate Ways and Means Committee:

David Y. Ige (D-16), Chairman

808-586-6230

sendige@capitol.hawaii.gov

 

Michelle Kindani (D-18), Vice Chairman

808-586-7100

senkidani@capitol.hawaii.gov


Suzanne Chun Oakland (D-13)

808-586-6130

senchunoakland@capitol.hawaii.gov


Donovan Dela Cruz (D-22)

808-586-6090

sendelacruz@capitol.hawaii.gov


J. Kalani English (D-7)

808-587-7225

senenglish@capitol.hawaii.gov


Senator Will Espero (D-19)

(808) 586-6360

senespero@capitol.hawaii.gov
Title: Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
Post by: hnl.flyboy on February 21, 2013, 03:31:29 PM
sweet it got deferred, i can make it down. 

I dont like how after it passes 1 hearing they can amend it and add more things into it.  I wonder who is in the WAM committee.

This is why I created the Excel spreadsheet ;)
Title: Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
Post by: bass monkey on February 21, 2013, 06:47:19 PM
This is why I created the Excel spreadsheet ;)


hahahahha thanks.  you going down tomorrow?
Title: Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
Post by: hnl.flyboy on February 21, 2013, 07:09:26 PM

hahahahha thanks.  you going down tomorrow?

Don't think so  :-\
Title: 2/22/13 SB69: The committee(s) on WAM deferred the measure until 02-27-13 9:00AM in conference room 211.
Post by: 2aH Feed Poster on February 22, 2013, 06:00:05 PM
2/22/13 SB69: The committee(s) on  WAM deferred the measure until 02-27-13  9:00AM in conference room 211. (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)
22 February 2013, 3:00 am

2/22/13 SB69: Senate Status Update

Source: SB69 Status Feed (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)

Title: Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
Post by: Dolomite on February 22, 2013, 06:08:59 PM
Only Laura Theilen replied with a response.... All the others haven't reasoned, I'm not voting for them next term.... Get them out of office...
Title: 2/27/13 SB69: The committee(s) on WAM recommend(s) that the measure be PASSED, WITH AMENDMENTS. The votes in WAM were as follows: 10 Aye(s): Senator(s) Ige, Chun Oakland, Dela Cruz, English, Espero, Kahele, Kouchi, Ruderman, L. Thielen, Tokuda; Aye(s) w
Post by: 2aH Feed Poster on February 27, 2013, 03:00:06 PM
2/27/13 SB69: The committee(s) on  WAM recommend(s) that the measure be PASSED, WITH AMENDMENTS.  The votes in WAM were as follows: 10 Aye(s): Senator(s) Ige, Chun Oakland, Dela Cruz, English, Espero, Kahele, Kouchi, Ruderman, L. Thielen, Tokuda; Aye(s) with reservations: none ; 2 No(es): Senator(s) Kidani, Slom; and 1 Excused: Senator(s) Keith-Agaran. (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)
27 February 2013, 3:00 am

2/27/13 SB69: Senate Status Update

Source: SB69 Status Feed (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)

Title: Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
Post by: clshade on February 27, 2013, 03:44:19 PM
Assholes. While I'd say this makes a mockery of the democratic process... it appears this IS the democratic process. Overwhelming public testimony against and "your" committee on public safety passes it anyway.

Yeah, fuck you very much. Representatives, my ass.

On the flip side of it, looks like someone just needs a way to get $200,000 into the police department. They'll throw a gun safety party for a couple grand and pocket the rest.

edit: Sorry for the language. :/  If you can't tell already this stuff really irritates me.
Title: Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
Post by: Bunker on February 27, 2013, 04:28:24 PM
Assholes. While I'd say this makes a mockery of the democratic process... it appears this IS the democratic process. Overwhelming public testimony against and "your" committee on public safety passes it anyway.

Yeah, fuck you very much. Representatives, my ass.

On the flip side of it, looks like someone just needs a way to get $200,000 into the police department. They'll throw a gun safety party for a couple grand and pocket the rest.

edit: Sorry for the language. :/  If you can't tell already this stuff really irritates me.
It is rather disenchanting and the only real way to potentially do anything is vote them out of office. They don't listen because they believe gun owners don't make a difference at the ballot box. Every gun owner in Hawaii should be a registered voter and exercising that right. In many of these district races, there is not a lot of total votes and some are very close. Gun owners could potentially sway some of these small elections if they all actually voted. I would suspect the Governor is also encouraging some of these legislators to vote along party lines and in line with the President's agenda. Our Governor is so far up Obama's ass to begin with.
Title: Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
Post by: Hunter1007 on February 27, 2013, 04:59:14 PM
Well guys when they actually have these buy backs I say we stand on the side walk and do our own buy back program. So they are gonna offer what $100 safeway gift cards for every gun? I'll offer $150 cash. I'll do my part. Keeping guns off the street by putting them in my safe :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
Post by: OGC on February 27, 2013, 07:00:54 PM
Its not the buyback you need to be concerned with.  apparently they added a whole bunch of additions to the registration process as part of this bill.

Any way to get a copy of the bill AS PASSED by committee?
Title: Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
Post by: 2aHawaii on February 28, 2013, 04:43:18 AM
If you click on the link to go to the state website, on the right hand side of the page there is a list of all the versions of the bill. I believe this is the one you are talking about.
http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/session2013/CommReports/SB69_SD1_SSCR334_.HTM (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/session2013/CommReports/SB69_SD1_SSCR334_.HTM)

ETA: That looks like the comittee notes, not the actual bill. They may not have an actual revised version yet.
Title: Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
Post by: Heavies on February 28, 2013, 06:21:33 AM
These lawmakers are so freakin dumb. Why, if you know you are not allowed to own, would you register an out of state anyway?  Why would you now go through the extra BS to register when this shit passes.  All this will do is cause a larger backlog and burden on the PD with absulutly no impact on gun crime.  What a waste of freakin time and money!
Title: Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
Post by: mill8316 on February 28, 2013, 07:45:31 AM
Yes heavies you are correct. Requiring out of state back ground check will do nothing for crime. Because criminals will not even bother going down. Why would they when they already have the gun and it is not on hawaii states registration. Smh at this idiotic abortion of legislation with all the changes they made to this bill and despite all the testimony against it, the lawmakers still approve it
Title: Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
Post by: Jl808 on February 28, 2013, 08:19:36 AM
Hi all -- I received this email from HRA today..  Just wanted to pass this along

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HRA Leg Report, 2/28/2013

The Senate Ways And Means money committee (WAM) gave decision and took a vote to pass SB69, SD1, which started out as a gun buyback bill, but ended up stuffed with other issues by Sen.Will Espero’s Public Safety Committee.  We haven’t seen the actual Senate Draft 2 (SD2) yet, but Chair David Ige announced his recommendations, removing reference to gun buybacks, mental health background checks, and police gun safety programs from the bill.  The $200,000 earmarked appropriation for these is deleted, but a blank line for an appropriation to the county police was left in the bill for further discussion.  The bill will authorize the county police to do NICS (National Instant Checks System) checks (supported by HRA) on firearms owners who are already required to register firearms they bring in from out of state, and collect the FBI fee for fingerprints if the registrant has none on file.  The 3-day window to register guns brought in is increased to 5 days, compatible with the registration requirement for guns acquired in state, and allowing for 3-day weekends.  Sen. Sam Slom voted “no” as did WAM Vice-Chair, Senator Michelle Kidani, who said the counties should fund their own county police programs. Sen. Suzanne Chun Oakland expressed her concern about the Chair’s recommendation to extend the registration window.    Go to:

http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013 (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)

in a few days, when the clerks catch up, for the actual SD2 language crossing over to the House where the whole process repeats.

HB603, amending the Hawaii self-defense statutes, was heard Tuesday in House Judiciary Committee.  Although this complicated section of Hawaii statute could be improved, HRA believes the current statute, only recently passed in 2010, is sufficient, and the legislative climate this year is too volatile, so recommended in testimony that the bill be deferred indefinitely (dead for the year).  Chair Rhoads announced that as his intention.  There will be no HB1 draft generated.

The Legislature is at its half-way point March 7, 2013.  The worst gun bills are already dead for the year.  A big mahalo to all you activists who support our gun rights during this difficult legislative session.  Don’t let up before it’s over, May 2!

Dr Maxwell Cooper
HRA Legislative Liaison
Title: Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
Post by: aNoyPi808 on February 28, 2013, 12:59:48 PM
Last night I publicly thanked Senator Kidani (Vice Chair of WAM) for voting NO on this bill in her committee. I mentioned that numerous testimony had been submitted in opposition along with mine and any new appropriations should be directed elsewhere especially to our ailing educational system. She expressed her concern that the bill was too broad and didn't feel the need for appropriation to come from the state but from the counties instead. We still would need to monitor this as it crosses over to the House as it begins again... :shaka:
Title: Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
Post by: Funtimes on February 28, 2013, 06:15:26 PM
Well I do kind of like that they took the idea I gave them on extending the registration deadline to five days.
Title: 3/1/13 SB69: Reported from WAM (Stand. Com. Rep. No. 805) with recommendation of passage on Third Reading, as amended (SD 2).
Post by: 2aH Feed Poster on March 02, 2013, 02:00:55 AM
3/1/13 SB69: Reported from WAM (Stand. Com. Rep. No. 805) with recommendation of passage on Third Reading, as amended (SD 2). (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)
1 March 2013, 3:00 am

3/1/13 SB69: Senate Status Update

Source: SB69 Status Feed (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)

Title: 3/2/13 SB69: 48 Hrs. Notice 03-05-13.
Post by: 2aH Feed Poster on March 02, 2013, 02:00:55 AM
3/2/13 SB69: 48 Hrs. Notice 03-05-13. (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)
2 March 2013, 3:00 am

3/2/13 SB69: Senate Status Update

Source: SB69 Status Feed (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)

Title: 3/1/13 SB69: 48 Hrs. Notice 03-05-13.
Post by: 2aH Feed Poster on March 05, 2013, 01:00:07 PM
3/1/13 SB69: 48 Hrs. Notice 03-05-13. (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)
1 March 2013, 3:00 am

3/1/13 SB69: Senate Status Update

Source: SB69 Status Feed (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)

Title: 3/5/13 SB69: Report adopted; Passed Third Reading, as amended (SD 2). Ayes, 21; Aye(s) with reservations: Senator(s) Solomon, Taniguchi . Noes, 3 (Senator(s) Keith-Agaran, Kidani, Slom). Excused, 1 (Senator(s) Kouchi). Transmitted to House.
Post by: 2aH Feed Poster on March 05, 2013, 01:00:08 PM
3/5/13 SB69: Report adopted; Passed Third Reading, as amended (SD  2). Ayes, 21; Aye(s) with reservations: Senator(s) Solomon, Taniguchi .  Noes, 3 (Senator(s) Keith-Agaran, Kidani, Slom). Excused, 1 (Senator(s) Kouchi).  Transmitted to House. (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)
5 March 2013, 3:00 am

3/5/13 SB69: Senate Status Update

Source: SB69 Status Feed (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)

Title: Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
Post by: clshade on March 05, 2013, 01:45:30 PM
Way better than it was.

No more police safety course or buyback program. Now its just a background check to register out of state firearms and extending the time limit to 5 days from 3.

And the act takes effect July, 2050 "to encourage further conversation."

I think they mean because they don't want to make any real decisions.
Title: Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
Post by: macsak on March 05, 2013, 03:18:53 PM
need to oppose
if this thing makes it to conference committee, all the anti language goes back in, and we cannot testify against or do anything
it must be stopped NOW
that's all this is, a trojan horse
we are screwed once this thing hits crossover

Way better than it was.

No more police safety course or buyback program. Now its just a background check to register out of state firearms and extending the time limit to 5 days from 3.

And the act takes effect July, 2050 "to encourage further conversation."

I think they mean because they don't want to make any real decisions.
Title: Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
Post by: bass monkey on March 05, 2013, 03:20:29 PM
Was the hearing today?

And i agree Mac, thats the same thing that happened the first time.  Passed then a whole bunch of shit got added.  Everyone said something, they cut the bullshit.  Maybe they are just testing the waters more to see who is watching.  Wouldnt doubt the same thing would happen again during cross over.


need to oppose
if this thing makes it to conference committee, all the anti language goes back in, and we cannot testify against or do anything
it must be stopped NOW
that's all this is, a trojan horse
we are screwed once this thing hits crossover
Title: 3/5/13 SB69: Received from Senate (Sen. Com. No. 67) in amended form (SD 2).
Post by: 2aH Feed Poster on March 05, 2013, 06:00:08 PM
3/5/13 SB69: Received from Senate (Sen. Com. No. 67) in amended form (SD 2). (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)
5 March 2013, 3:00 am

3/5/13 SB69: House Status Update

Source: SB69 Status Feed (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)

Title: Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
Post by: macsak on March 05, 2013, 07:02:34 PM
in conference committee, anything goes, no public input
if not killed now, they can add anything

actually, you could take a bill about preschools and change it into an AWB

Was the hearing today?

And i agree Mac, thats the same thing that happened the first time.  Passed then a whole bunch of shit got added.  Everyone said something, they cut the bullshit.  Maybe they are just testing the waters more to see who is watching.  Wouldnt doubt the same thing would happen again during cross over.
Title: 3/7/13 SB69: Referred to PBS, JUD, FIN, referral sheet 30
Post by: 2aH Feed Poster on March 07, 2013, 02:00:32 PM
3/7/13 SB69: Referred to PBS, JUD, FIN, referral sheet 30 (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)
7 March 2013, 3:00 am

3/7/13 SB69: House Status Update

Source: SB69 Status Feed (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)

Title: 3/7/13 SB69: Pass First Reading
Post by: 2aH Feed Poster on March 07, 2013, 02:00:32 PM
3/7/13 SB69: Pass First Reading (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)
7 March 2013, 3:00 am

3/7/13 SB69: House Status Update

Source: SB69 Status Feed (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)

Title: 3/11/13 SB69: Bill scheduled to be heard by PBS on Thursday, 03-14-13 9:30AM in House conference room 309.
Post by: 2aH Feed Poster on March 11, 2013, 06:00:06 PM
3/11/13 SB69: Bill scheduled to be heard by PBS on Thursday, 03-14-13  9:30AM in House conference room 309. (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)
11 March 2013, 3:00 am

3/11/13 SB69: House Status Update

Source: SB69 Status Feed (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)

Title: Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
Post by: bass monkey on March 11, 2013, 06:02:05 PM
Bump this up. Come down if you can make it. Spread the word.
Title: Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
Post by: new guy on March 14, 2013, 12:41:20 PM
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Title: Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
Post by: William Smith on March 14, 2013, 01:21:27 PM
I'm gonna guess the amendment was to replace the word "may" on page 3 line 12 with the work "will".     Reb Bob McDermott was true to his word, and voted nay.   

9 Every person registering a firearm under this subsection
10 shall be fingerprinted and photographed by the police department
11 of the county of registration; provided that this requirement
12 may be waived where fingerprints and photographs are already on
13 file with the police department. The police department shall
14 perform an inquiry on the person by using the National Instant
15 Criminal Background Check System before any determination to
16 register a firearm is made."
Title: 3/14/13 SB69: The committees on PBS recommend that the measure be PASSED, WITH AMENDMENTS. The votes were as follows: 6 Ayes: Representative(s) Aquino, Ing, Hashem, Nakashima, Yamane, Yamashita; Ayes with reservations: none; 1 Noes: Representative(s) McDe
Post by: 2aH Feed Poster on March 14, 2013, 02:00:27 PM
3/14/13 SB69: The committees on PBS recommend that the measure be PASSED, WITH AMENDMENTS. The votes were as follows: 6 Ayes: Representative(s) Aquino, Ing, Hashem, Nakashima, Yamane, Yamashita; Ayes with reservations: none; 1 Noes: Representative(s) McDermott; and 2 Excused: Representative(s) Ichiyama, Takumi. (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)
14 March 2013, 3:00 am

3/14/13 SB69: House Status Update

Source: SB69 Status Feed (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)

Title: 3/15/13 SB69: Reported from PBS (Stand. Com. Rep. No. 984) as amended in HD 1, recommending passage on Second Reading and referral to JUD.
Post by: 2aH Feed Poster on March 14, 2013, 09:00:07 PM
3/15/13 SB69: Reported from PBS (Stand. Com. Rep. No. 984) as amended in HD 1, recommending passage on Second Reading and referral to JUD. (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)
15 March 2013, 3:00 am

3/15/13 SB69: House Status Update

Source: SB69 Status Feed (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)

Title: Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
Post by: William Smith on March 15, 2013, 08:17:41 AM
The House Draft of 69 is out.  The only two changes that I see after committee amended:
1.Changing the wording to clarify that folks with fingerprints already on record w/ respective county police dept. SHALL be waived from having to file fingerprints again. 
2. The effective (start) date was changed from 2050 (to allow time for discussion) to July 2013.
Title: Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
Post by: aNoyPi808 on March 15, 2013, 08:34:11 AM
I arrived there late due to traffic and parking issues but heard not to many actually testified in person  :( A friend told me that the chair called my name since I indicated I was testifying in person...  Stuck around to hear the voting and to my understanding the amendments proposed by the HRA is what the chair and members agreed to use.  :shaka:
Title: Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
Post by: bass monkey on March 15, 2013, 08:41:00 AM
This thread just makes me sad
Title: 3/15/13 SB69: Passed Second Reading as amended in HD 1 and referred to the committee(s) on JUD with Representative(s) Carroll, Fale, Fukumoto, Hanohano, Kawakami, McKelvey, Morikawa, Tokioka voting aye with reservations; Representative(s) McDermott voting
Post by: 2aH Feed Poster on March 15, 2013, 03:00:06 PM
3/15/13 SB69: Passed Second Reading as amended in HD 1 and referred to the committee(s) on JUD with Representative(s) Carroll, Fale, Fukumoto, Hanohano, Kawakami, McKelvey, Morikawa, Tokioka voting aye with reservations; Representative(s) McDermott voting no (1) and Representative(s) Mizuno, Oshiro, Takai excused (3). (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)
15 March 2013, 3:00 am

3/15/13 SB69: House Status Update

Source: SB69 Status Feed (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)

Title: Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
Post by: William Smith on March 15, 2013, 04:32:50 PM
The hearing date set:  3/15/2013   H   Bill scheduled to be heard by JUD on Tuesday, 03-19-13 2:00PM in House conference room 325.
...and Rep. Karl Rhoads is the JUD Chair...  I've never even got an auto respond bot reply from my various emails to him......
Title: 3/15/13 SB69: Bill scheduled to be heard by JUD on Tuesday, 03-19-13 2:00PM in House conference room 325.
Post by: 2aH Feed Poster on March 15, 2013, 06:00:11 PM
3/15/13 SB69: Bill scheduled to be heard by JUD on Tuesday, 03-19-13  2:00PM in House conference room 325. (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)
15 March 2013, 3:00 am

3/15/13 SB69: House Status Update

Source: SB69 Status Feed (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)

Title: Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
Post by: Hoplite on March 16, 2013, 09:26:09 AM
Received this email from Senator Kidani who is one of two Senators voting against this bill.

Aloha,

Thank you for your email re: SB69 relating to firearms registration that was considered by the Senate last Tuesday.

I voted NO on this bill, but it was passed over to the House with amendments that did address some of my concerns.  It is scheduled for hearing in the House committee tomorrow.  I will review the final draft if it comes back to us for another vote.  Please let me know if you still oppose SB69 in its current version.

You can follow the movement of this bill by linking to the Legislature's web site:  http://capitol.hawaii.gov (http://capitol.hawaii.gov) and entering the bill number in the appropriate box.

Mahalo for contacting me about this issue.


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Senator Michelle Kidani
18th Senatorial District
Hawaii State Capitol, Room 228
Honolulu, Hi 96813
Voice (808) 586-7100 | Fax (808) 586-7109
http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov)
Reduce, Reuse, Recycle - malama our aina for our keiki
Title: Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
Post by: Jl808 on March 16, 2013, 01:30:58 PM
Ask them to take off photographing also.
Title: Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
Post by: new guy on March 18, 2013, 01:26:23 PM
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Title: Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
Post by: new guy on March 18, 2013, 03:32:48 PM
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Title: Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
Post by: William Smith on March 18, 2013, 04:19:25 PM
I emailed everyone on JUD a week ago today, knowing if it passed out of PBS they would be getting it.  The only person who replied wast Rep Bob McDermott.  He said he was also opposed, and voted as such at PBS meeting. I've submitted written testimony for tomorrow's meeting, but can't be there to testify in person.  I'm thinking Bob McDermott will again say no tomorrow, but I doubt it will help.

I'm at least slightly pleased that Rep Cynthia Thielen replied to someone on this.  I'm pretty sure what her reply below translates to. Support. 

Dr Cooper, while testifying, did say while he was not in any way representing the NRA, but he did say he was an NRA member and noted the NRA were in opposition.  HRA/Dr Cooper were in support w/ amendments.  The PBS amended based on HRA suggestions.  Dr Cooper didn't address the effective date in his oral testimony. ... that was also changed from 2050 to July 2013 at PBS last Thursday.
Title: Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
Post by: new guy on March 19, 2013, 08:14:26 AM
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Title: Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
Post by: new guy on March 19, 2013, 05:46:17 PM
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Title: 3/19/13 SB69: The committees on JUD recommend that the measure be PASSED, UNAMENDED. The votes were as follows: 12 Ayes: Representative(s) Rhoads, Har, Belatti, Brower, Cabanilla, Carroll, Ito, Kawakami, C. Lee, Tsuji, Wooley, Thielen; Ayes with reservati
Post by: 2aH Feed Poster on March 19, 2013, 08:00:04 PM
3/19/13 SB69: The committees on JUD recommend that the measure be PASSED, UNAMENDED. The votes were as follows: 12 Ayes: Representative(s) Rhoads, Har, Belatti, Brower, Cabanilla, Carroll, Ito, Kawakami, C. Lee, Tsuji, Wooley, Thielen; Ayes with reservations: none; 1 Noes: Representative(s) McDermott; and  Excused: none. (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)
19 March 2013, 3:00 am

3/19/13 SB69: House Status Update

Source: SB69 Status Feed (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)

Title: Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
Post by: ren on March 19, 2013, 08:31:57 PM
Rhoads needs to get voted out of office :grrr:
Title: Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
Post by: Heavies on March 20, 2013, 04:09:31 AM
Rhoads needs to get voted out of office :grrr:
+1
Title: Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
Post by: Heavies on March 20, 2013, 04:13:50 AM
I am not understanding why the HRA and the NRA are in disagreement with this bill.  Also, I am not understanding why the HRA is in disagreement with most of us here.  This confusion is causing the antis to feel that they will be able to push this through, and encourage them to come up with other ways to piss on our rights.  I still oppose and I hope that the HRA will change course on this....    thoughts?
Title: Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
Post by: ren on March 20, 2013, 05:38:38 AM
Here is a response from HRA in an email to one of our club members

This NRA/ILA Alert contains some inaccuracies.  SB69HD1 is not a "gun registration" bill.  If it is killed, persons bringing in firearms from out of state will still be required to physically present themselves and their firearms at the county police HQ's to register them per existing statute. 

The line at HPD is now down to 1.5 hours.  By the time this bill would take effect, June, 2013, it will probably be back to the usual 45min, not "one to two days."

There is no mention in this alert that the 3-day window for out of state registration is extended to 5 days by this bill, allowing for three day weekends.

HRA is working with Honolulu City Council and Mayor Caldwell to see if appropriations from this bill can be used to open registration and permits in Kapolei, and establish Sat. hours.

This bill would require the PD's to do NICS checks on persons bringing firearms into the state, something they are already doing because FBI tells them they must.  They do not need statutory authorization to do so.  Any LE entity and FFL's can request a NICS background check and act on the information.  It would authorize the PD's to collect the once-in-a-lifetime floating FBI fee, currently $16.50, as permitted under existing statute for in-state acquisitions.

NRA used to support instant checks.  HRA still does.  Criminals do apply for permits and arrests are made.   I feel NRA has over-reacted to this bill.  The Senate took all the "onerous" language and requirements out of it before it crossed to the House.  HRA supports the current draft.   I'll be testifying for HRA in support today.  This is the first Hawaii Legislative session for our new NRA/ILA Rep in Sacramento.  He's a fine young attorney who took over the job 3 mos. ago.  He's caught up in the current NRA effort to keep Hawaii type statutes from passing nationally.  Unfortunately this disagreement is confusing our supporters, encouraging our opponents, and interfering with our long term HRA goals of improving the Hawaii statutes.  Fence-sitting legislators are raising eyebrows. 

If the bill passes JUD today, it will have a House WAM hearing and then Conference Committees.  I would consider it personal favor if you would consider HRA's position on the bill.  We are the boots on the ground here.

Very respectfully,

Max
Title: Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
Post by: Bunker on March 21, 2013, 07:39:32 PM
I am not understanding why the HRA and the NRA are in disagreement with this bill.  Also, I am not understanding why the HRA is in disagreement with most of us here.  This confusion is causing the antis to feel that they will be able to push this through, and encourage them to come up with other ways to piss on our rights.  I still oppose and I hope that the HRA will change course on this....    thoughts?
Nothing has changed my mind. Any bill that infringes on our 2a rights is a non starter for me. I still oppose. None of these new bills do anything to reduce restrictions already imposed on Hawaii gun owners, and we have some of the strictest in the nation already.
Title: 3/22/13 SB69: Reported from JUD (Stand. Com. Rep. No. 1201), recommending referral to FIN.
Post by: 2aH Feed Poster on March 21, 2013, 10:00:03 PM
3/22/13 SB69: Reported from JUD (Stand. Com. Rep. No. 1201), recommending referral to FIN. (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)
22 March 2013, 3:00 am

3/22/13 SB69: House Status Update

Source: SB69 Status Feed (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)

Title: Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
Post by: Heavies on March 22, 2013, 09:03:32 AM
Seems no matter how much opposition this crap has, they still pass it.  Sick
Title: 3/22/13 SB69: Report adopted; referred to the committee(s) on FIN with Representative(s) Cheape, Fale, Fukumoto voting aye with reservations; Representative(s) McDermott voting no (1) and Representative(s) Hanohano, McKelvey, Takumi, Woodson excused (4).
Post by: 2aH Feed Poster on March 22, 2013, 05:00:04 PM
3/22/13 SB69: Report adopted; referred to the committee(s) on FIN with Representative(s) Cheape, Fale, Fukumoto voting aye with reservations; Representative(s) McDermott voting no (1) and Representative(s) Hanohano, McKelvey, Takumi, Woodson excused (4). (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)
22 March 2013, 3:00 am

3/22/13 SB69: House Status Update

Source: SB69 Status Feed (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)

Title: Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
Post by: bass monkey on March 22, 2013, 05:42:44 PM
How does it go forward with 4 people voting no and 4 people excused?
Title: 3/25/13 SB69: Bill scheduled to be heard by FIN on Thursday, 03-28-13 3:15PM in House conference room 308.
Post by: 2aH Feed Poster on March 25, 2013, 09:00:03 PM
3/25/13 SB69: Bill scheduled to be heard by FIN on Thursday, 03-28-13  3:15PM in House conference room 308. (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)
25 March 2013, 3:00 am

3/25/13 SB69: House Status Update

Source: SB69 Status Feed (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)

Title: Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
Post by: GZire on March 26, 2013, 10:50:21 AM
I am not understanding why the HRA and the NRA are in disagreement with this bill.  Also, I am not understanding why the HRA is in disagreement with most of us here.  This confusion is causing the antis to feel that they will be able to push this through, and encourage them to come up with other ways to piss on our rights.  I still oppose and I hope that the HRA will change course on this....    thoughts?

I agree with Bunker.

Give a little here, give a little there, before you know it you gave a lot.
Title: 3/28/13 SB69: The committees on FIN recommend that the measure be PASSED, UNAMENDED. The votes were as follows: 15 Ayes: Representative(s) Luke, Nishimoto, Johanson, Cullen, Hashem, Ing, Jordan, Kobayashi, Lowen, Onishi, Takayama, Yamashita, Fukumoto, War
Post by: 2aH Feed Poster on March 28, 2013, 06:00:09 PM
3/28/13 SB69: The committees on FIN recommend that the measure be PASSED, UNAMENDED. The votes were as follows: 15 Ayes: Representative(s) Luke, Nishimoto, Johanson, Cullen, Hashem, Ing, Jordan, Kobayashi, Lowen, Onishi, Takayama, Yamashita, Fukumoto, Ward; Ayes with reservations: Representative(s) Morikawa;  Noes: none; and 2 Excused: Representative(s) Tokioka, Woodson. (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)
28 March 2013, 3:00 am

3/28/13 SB69: House Status Update

Source: SB69 Status Feed (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)

Title: 4/4/13 SB69: Reported from FIN (Stand. Com. Rep. No. 1436), recommending passage on Third Reading.
Post by: 2aH Feed Poster on April 03, 2013, 09:00:02 PM
4/4/13 SB69: Reported from FIN (Stand. Com. Rep. No. 1436), recommending passage on Third Reading. (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)
4 April 2013, 3:00 am

4/4/13 SB69: House Status Update

Source: SB69 Status Feed (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)

Title: Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
Post by: Heavies on April 04, 2013, 03:57:02 AM
Sailing through, no matter what the opposing constituents have to say.  Well, boot them all next election! 
Title: 4/4/13 SB69: Passed Third Reading with none voting aye with reservations; Representative(s) McDermott voting no (1) and none excused (0). Transmitted to Senate.
Post by: 2aH Feed Poster on April 04, 2013, 04:00:01 PM
4/4/13 SB69: Passed Third Reading with none voting aye with reservations; Representative(s) McDermott voting no (1) and none excused (0).  Transmitted to Senate. (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)
4 April 2013, 3:00 am

4/4/13 SB69: House Status Update

Source: SB69 Status Feed (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)

Title: 4/5/13 SB69: Received from House (Hse. Com. No. 432).
Post by: 2aH Feed Poster on April 04, 2013, 09:00:06 PM
4/5/13 SB69: Received from House (Hse. Com. No. 432). (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)
5 April 2013, 3:00 am

4/5/13 SB69: Senate Status Update

Source: SB69 Status Feed (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)

Title: 4/5/13 SB69: Deferred until 04-09-13.
Post by: 2aH Feed Poster on April 05, 2013, 05:00:05 PM
4/5/13 SB69: Deferred until 04-09-13. (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)
5 April 2013, 3:00 am

4/5/13 SB69: Senate Status Update

Source: SB69 Status Feed (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)

Title: 4/9/13 SB69: Deferred until 04-11-13.
Post by: 2aH Feed Poster on April 09, 2013, 12:00:12 PM
4/9/13 SB69: Deferred until 04-11-13. (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)
9 April 2013, 3:00 am

4/9/13 SB69: Senate Status Update

Source: SB69 Status Feed (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)

Title: Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
Post by: new guy on April 09, 2013, 12:06:00 PM
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Title: 4/11/13 SB69: Senate disagrees with House amendments.
Post by: 2aH Feed Poster on April 11, 2013, 02:00:04 PM
4/11/13 SB69: Senate disagrees with House amendments. (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)
11 April 2013, 3:00 am

4/11/13 SB69: Senate Status Update

Source: SB69 Status Feed (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)

Title: Re: 4/11/13 SB69: Senate disagrees with House amendments.
Post by: macsak on April 11, 2013, 02:41:31 PM
ouch
this one is going to get hashed out in conference committee
anything goes
could even morph into awb
can't imagine they would try that, but it is possible

4/11/13 SB69: Senate disagrees with House amendments. (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)
11 April 2013, 3:00 am

4/11/13 SB69: Senate Status Update

Source: SB69 Status Feed (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)
Title: 4/11/13 SB69: Received notice of disagreement (Sen. Com. No. 608).
Post by: 2aH Feed Poster on April 11, 2013, 09:00:07 PM
4/11/13 SB69: Received notice of disagreement (Sen. Com. No. 608). (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)
11 April 2013, 3:00 am

4/11/13 SB69: House Status Update

Source: SB69 Status Feed (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)

Title: Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
Post by: Jl808 on April 11, 2013, 10:02:34 PM
I wonder what the senate disagreed with regarding the bill.... Not infringing enough?
Title: 4/15/13 SB69: Senate Conferees appointed: Espero, Chair; Ige, Co-Chair(s); Green, Kahele, Kouchi.
Post by: 2aH Feed Poster on April 14, 2013, 03:00:04 PM
4/15/13 SB69: Senate Conferees appointed: Espero, Chair; Ige, Co-Chair(s); Green, Kahele, Kouchi. (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)
15 April 2013, 3:00 am

4/15/13 SB69: Senate Status Update

Source: SB69 Status Feed (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)

Title: 4/15/13 SB69: Received notice of Senate conferees (Sen. Com. No. 692).
Post by: 2aH Feed Poster on April 15, 2013, 03:00:36 PM
4/15/13 SB69: Received notice of Senate conferees (Sen. Com. No. 692). (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)
15 April 2013, 3:00 am

4/15/13 SB69: House Status Update

Source: SB69 Status Feed (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)

Title: 4/15/13 SB69: House conferees appointed: Aquino, Rhoads, Ing Co-Chairs; Ichiyama, Thielen.
Post by: 2aH Feed Poster on April 15, 2013, 06:00:10 PM
4/15/13 SB69: House conferees appointed: Aquino, Rhoads, Ing Co-Chairs; Ichiyama, Thielen. (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)
15 April 2013, 3:00 am

4/15/13 SB69: House Status Update

Source: SB69 Status Feed (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)

Title: Re: 4/15/13 SB69: Senate Conferees appointed: Espero, Chair; Ige, Co-Chair(s); Green, Kahele, Kouchi
Post by: macsak on April 15, 2013, 08:11:19 PM
espero's that d-bag that wears the matching suit and beret
we're scrod

4/15/13 SB69: Senate Conferees appointed: Espero, Chair; Ige, Co-Chair(s); Green, Kahele, Kouchi. (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)
15 April 2013, 3:00 am

4/15/13 SB69: Senate Status Update

Source: SB69 Status Feed (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)
Title: Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
Post by: Heavies on April 15, 2013, 08:16:01 PM
I pray that voters throw all these dirt bags out.
Title: Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
Post by: bass monkey on April 15, 2013, 08:16:59 PM
Mac what you tryna spell?

Anywho, with esperso, he says he's pro gun and going through the process to acquire, but still voted to pass this bill.

I guess d-bag answers my question.
Title: Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
Post by: Heavies on April 15, 2013, 08:20:11 PM
Mac what you tryna spell?

Anywho, with esperso, he says he's pro gun and going through the process to acquire, but still voted to pass this bill.

I guess d-bag answers my question.

He is a hypocritical elitist that WILL NEVER GET MY VOTE EVER AGAIN.   Screw him.
Title: Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
Post by: bass monkey on April 15, 2013, 08:28:57 PM
I agree. Now we know their true colors. Hopefully none of them gets reelected and they feel like their feel good legislation actually did something and realize it didn't.

I believe your in ewa too right?
Title: Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
Post by: macsak on April 15, 2013, 08:39:05 PM
scrod- beyond screwed

Mac what you tryna spell?

Anywho, with esperso, he says he's pro gun and going through the process to acquire, but still voted to pass this bill.

I guess d-bag answers my question.
Title: Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
Post by: macsak on April 15, 2013, 08:40:34 PM
remember his interview at the gun show?
nancy-boy looked like he feared getting shot

scrod- beyond screwed
Title: Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
Post by: Heavies on April 15, 2013, 08:51:10 PM
I agree. Now we know their true colors. Hopefully none of them gets reelected and they feel like their feel good legislation actually did something and realize it didn't.

I believe your in ewa too right?

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
Post by: Kingkeoni on April 15, 2013, 09:08:35 PM
espero's that d-bag that wears the matching suit and beret
we're scrod

Mac what you tryna spell?

scrod you, bass monkey.
Scrod you for making fun of me.

  :rofl:
Title: 4/16/13 SB69: Received notice of appointment of House conferees (Hse. Com. No. 699).
Post by: 2aH Feed Poster on April 16, 2013, 10:00:04 AM
4/16/13 SB69: Received notice of appointment of House conferees (Hse. Com. No. 699). (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)
16 April 2013, 3:00 am

4/16/13 SB69: Senate Status Update

Source: SB69 Status Feed (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)

Title: 4/17/13 SB69: Conference committee meeting scheduled for 04-19-13 10:30AM in conference room 312.
Post by: 2aH Feed Poster on April 17, 2013, 12:00:02 PM
4/17/13 SB69: Conference committee meeting scheduled for 04-19-13 10:30AM in conference room 312. (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)
17 April 2013, 3:00 am

4/17/13 SB69: Senate Status Update

Source: SB69 Status Feed (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)

Title: Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
Post by: bass monkey on April 17, 2013, 12:05:01 PM
Is this open to the public?
Title: Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
Post by: macsak on April 17, 2013, 12:15:50 PM
not sure if you can watch
i know no public comment is allowed

Is this open to the public?
Title: Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
Post by: William Smith on April 17, 2013, 12:28:37 PM
Sounds like anyone can attend and watch.  No public comments.  If the room is too crowded, they usually provide a TV outside the room, and folks can watch from there too.   I think another option is to "watch" from the public access room.  The Public Access Room is our - the people's- office.   Here's the conference announcement:  http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/session2013/hearingnotices/CONF_PSM_04-19-13_.HTM (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/session2013/hearingnotices/CONF_PSM_04-19-13_.HTM)
Title: Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
Post by: macsak on April 17, 2013, 12:38:11 PM
people, remember, anything goes in conference committee
they could even add in a magazine ban or awb
not likely to happen, but it is possible
we need to remain vigilant

and also remember to vote in the next elections and support 2a candidates and oppose antis
my patient told me yesterday she lost by 400 votes, so 200 people switching or 400 more supporters could've made a difference
and yes, my patient is a 2a supporter

Sounds like anyone can attend and watch.  No public comments.  If the room is too crowded, they usually provide a TV outside the room, and folks can watch from there too.   I think another option is to "watch" from the public access room.  The Public Access Room is our - the people's- office.   Here's the conference announcement:  http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/session2013/hearingnotices/CONF_PSM_04-19-13_.HTM (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/session2013/hearingnotices/CONF_PSM_04-19-13_.HTM)
Title: Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
Post by: bass monkey on April 17, 2013, 12:47:33 PM
I'm gonna go check it out. Will results be posted that day or will they delay voting?
Title: Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
Post by: William Smith on April 17, 2013, 04:00:48 PM
Just got this from the Public Access Room emailing list. They are a great resource for our questions regarding things like Fridays conference meeting for SB69.  The staff is very friendly, nonjudgmental on requests for help, and know "the process" very well.   This is a great resource for us.

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·         View the “2013 Joint Conference Procedures” — they can be found by clicking on the “Legislative Information” link on the right‐hand side of the homepage.

 
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Title: Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
Post by: Bunker on April 17, 2013, 06:38:08 PM
Just got this from the Public Access Room emailing list. They are a great resource for our questions regarding things like Fridays conference meeting for SB69.  The staff is very friendly, nonjudgmental on requests for help, and know "the process" very well.   This is a great resource for us.
Thanks...excellent resource!
Title: 4/18/13 SB69: Senator(s) Kouchi discharged as conferee(s); Added as Co-Chair(s).
Post by: 2aH Feed Poster on April 18, 2013, 01:00:10 PM
4/18/13 SB69: Senator(s) Kouchi discharged as conferee(s); Added as Co-Chair(s). (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)
18 April 2013, 3:00 am

4/18/13 SB69: Senate Status Update

Source: SB69 Status Feed (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)

Title: 4/18/13 SB69: Senator(s) Ige discharged as (Co-) Chair; Added as conferee.
Post by: 2aH Feed Poster on April 18, 2013, 01:00:11 PM
4/18/13 SB69: Senator(s) Ige discharged as (Co-) Chair; Added as conferee. (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)
18 April 2013, 3:00 am

4/18/13 SB69: Senate Status Update

Source: SB69 Status Feed (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)

Title: Re: 4/18/13 SB69: Senator(s) Ige discharged as (Co-) Chair; Added as conferee.
Post by: macsak on April 18, 2013, 01:07:03 PM
i don't know if this is bad or good
or even unusual
but it looks like they are not agreeing on the wording, so shuffling is taking place

4/18/13 SB69: Senator(s) Ige discharged as (Co-) Chair; Added as conferee. (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)
18 April 2013, 3:00 am

4/18/13 SB69: Senate Status Update

Source: SB69 Status Feed (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)
Title: 4/18/13 SB69: Received notice of change in Senate conferees (Sen. Com. No. 709).
Post by: 2aH Feed Poster on April 18, 2013, 09:00:05 PM
4/18/13 SB69: Received notice of change in Senate conferees (Sen. Com. No. 709). (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)
18 April 2013, 3:00 am

4/18/13 SB69: House Status Update

Source: SB69 Status Feed (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)

Title: Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
Post by: Jl808 on April 19, 2013, 05:39:41 AM
Senate and House committees are all meeting about SD69 today Friday at 10:30am

Conference Room 312

SB 69, SD2, HD1
 
RELATING TO FIREARMS.
Firearm Registration; Appropriation

House Conferees:  Representatives Aquino/Rhoads/Ing, Co-Chairs; Ichiyama, Thielen
(PBS, JUD, FIN)

Senate Conferees:  Senators Espero, Chair; Ige, Co-Chair; Green, Kahele, Kouchi
(PSM, WAM)
 
http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/session2013/hearingnotices/CONF_PSM_04-19-13_.HTM

Title: 4/19/13 SB69: Conference committee meeting to reconvene on 04-23-13 10:30AM in conference room 312.
Post by: 2aH Feed Poster on April 19, 2013, 01:00:02 PM
4/19/13 SB69: Conference committee meeting to reconvene on 04-23-13 10:30AM in conference room 312. (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)
19 April 2013, 3:00 am

4/19/13 SB69: Senate Status Update

Source: SB69 Status Feed (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)

Title: Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
Post by: Jl808 on April 19, 2013, 09:50:40 PM
Committee Meeting rescheduled:

DATE: Tuesday, April 23, 2013
TIME: 10:30 a.m.
PLACE: Conference Room 312
State Capitol
415 South Beretania Street

SB 69, SD2, HD1
RELATING TO FIREARMS.
Firearm Registration; Appropriation

House Conferees:  Representatives Aquino/Rhoads/Ing, Co-Chairs; Ichiyama, Thielen
(PBS, JUD, FIN)

Senate Conferees:  Senators Espero, Chair; Kouchi, Co-Chair; Green, Ige, Kahele
(PSM, WAM)
 
http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/session2013/hearingnotices/CONF_PSM_04-23-13_RECONVENE_.HTM
Title: 4/23/13 SB69: Conference committee meeting to reconvene on 04-24-13 10:30AM in conference room 312.
Post by: 2aH Feed Poster on April 23, 2013, 02:00:34 PM
4/23/13 SB69: Conference committee meeting to reconvene on 04-24-13 10:30AM in conference room 312. (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)
23 April 2013, 3:00 am

4/23/13 SB69: Senate Status Update

Source: SB69 Status Feed (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)

Title: 4/24/13 SB69: Conference committee meeting to reconvene on 04-26-13 10:30AM in conference room 312.
Post by: 2aH Feed Poster on April 24, 2013, 01:00:10 PM
4/24/13 SB69: Conference committee meeting to reconvene on 04-26-13 10:30AM in conference room 312. (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)
24 April 2013, 3:00 am

4/24/13 SB69: Senate Status Update

Source: SB69 Status Feed (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)

Title: Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
Post by: Bunker on April 24, 2013, 03:22:34 PM
Does anyone know how come this keeps getting deferred and rescheduled? Not like I don't trust our legislators and what they may be capable of adding, as if the bill isn't bad enough already.
Title: Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
Post by: Jl808 on April 24, 2013, 08:19:04 PM

Anyone have any suggestion on a good apparel to wear when showing up to one of these meetings?

No I won't be wearing anything HRA for this one.

I was thinking that I should get an NRA cap...  Or maybe a "Don't tread on me" shirt.  Hopefully we can all show up in force during the hearing of these anti-gun bills.

Suggestions?
Title: 4/26/13 SB69: The Conference committee recommends that the measure be PASSED, WITH AMENDMENTS. The votes of the Senate Conference Managers were as follows: 5 Aye(s): Senator(s) Espero, Kouchi, Green, Ige, Kahele; Aye(s) with reservations: none ; 0 No(es):
Post by: 2aH Feed Poster on April 26, 2013, 06:00:03 PM
4/26/13 SB69: The Conference committee recommends that the measure be PASSED, WITH AMENDMENTS. The votes of the Senate Conference Managers were as follows: 5 Aye(s): Senator(s) Espero, Kouchi, Green, Ige, Kahele; Aye(s) with reservations: none ; 0 No(es): none; and 0 Excused: none. (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)
26 April 2013, 3:00 am

4/26/13 SB69: Senate Status Update

Source: SB69 Status Feed (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)

Title: 4/26/13 SB69: The Conference Committee recommends that the measure be Passed, with Amendments. The votes were as follows: 5 Ayes: Representative(s) Aquino, Rhoads, Ing, Ichiyama, Thielen; Ayes with reservations: none; 0 Noes: none; and 0 Excused: none.
Post by: 2aH Feed Poster on April 26, 2013, 09:00:06 PM
4/26/13 SB69: The Conference Committee recommends that the measure be Passed, with Amendments. The votes were as follows: 5 Ayes: Representative(s) Aquino, Rhoads, Ing, Ichiyama, Thielen; Ayes with reservations: none; 0 Noes: none; and 0 Excused: none. (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)
26 April 2013, 3:00 am

4/26/13 SB69: House Status Update

Source: SB69 Status Feed (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)

Title: 4/26/13 SB69: Forty-eight (48) hours notice, Tuesday 04-30-13.
Post by: 2aH Feed Poster on April 27, 2013, 02:00:39 AM
4/26/13 SB69: Forty-eight (48) hours notice, Tuesday 04-30-13. (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)
26 April 2013, 3:00 am

4/26/13 SB69: House Status Update

Source: SB69 Status Feed (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)

Title: 4/26/13 SB69: 48 Hrs. Notice (as amended CD 1) 04-30-13.
Post by: 2aH Feed Poster on April 27, 2013, 02:00:39 AM
4/26/13 SB69: 48 Hrs. Notice (as amended CD 1) 04-30-13. (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)
26 April 2013, 3:00 am

4/26/13 SB69: Senate Status Update

Source: SB69 Status Feed (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)

Title: 4/26/13 SB69: Reported from Conference Committee as amended CD 1 (Conf. Com. Rep. No. 162).
Post by: 2aH Feed Poster on April 27, 2013, 02:00:39 AM
4/26/13 SB69: Reported from Conference Committee as amended CD 1 (Conf. Com. Rep. No. 162). (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)
26 April 2013, 3:00 am

4/26/13 SB69: Senate Status Update

Source: SB69 Status Feed (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)

Title: 4/26/13 SB69: Reported from Conference Committee (Conf Com. Rep. No. 162) as amended in (CD 1).
Post by: 2aH Feed Poster on April 27, 2013, 02:00:39 AM
4/26/13 SB69: Reported from Conference Committee (Conf Com. Rep. No. 162) as amended in (CD 1). (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)
26 April 2013, 3:00 am

4/26/13 SB69: House Status Update

Source: SB69 Status Feed (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)

Title: 4/30/13 SB69: Passed Final Reading as amended in CD 1 with Representative(s) Fukumoto voting aye with reservations; Representative(s) Cabanilla, Fale, McDermott voting no (3) and none excused (0).
Post by: 2aH Feed Poster on April 30, 2013, 03:00:12 PM
4/30/13 SB69: Passed Final Reading as amended in CD 1 with Representative(s) Fukumoto voting aye with reservations; Representative(s) Cabanilla, Fale, McDermott voting no (3) and none excused (0). (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)
30 April 2013, 3:00 am

4/30/13 SB69: House Status Update

Source: SB69 Status Feed (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)

Title: 4/30/13 SB69: Passed Final Reading, as amended (CD 1). 23 Aye(s); Aye(s) with reservations: none . 1 No(es): Senator(s) Slom. 1 Excused: Senator(s) Kidani.
Post by: 2aH Feed Poster on April 30, 2013, 03:00:12 PM
4/30/13 SB69: Passed Final Reading, as amended (CD 1). 23 Aye(s); Aye(s) with reservations: none . 1 No(es): Senator(s) Slom.  1 Excused: Senator(s) Kidani. (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)
30 April 2013, 3:00 am

4/30/13 SB69: Senate Status Update

Source: SB69 Status Feed (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)

Title: 5/1/13 SB69: Received notice of Final Reading (Sen. Com. No. 755).
Post by: 2aH Feed Poster on May 01, 2013, 01:00:06 PM
5/1/13 SB69: Received notice of Final Reading (Sen. Com. No. 755). (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)
1 May 2013, 3:00 am

5/1/13 SB69: House Status Update

Source: SB69 Status Feed (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)

Title: 5/2/13 SB69: Received notice of passage on Final Reading in House (Hse. Com. No. 761).
Post by: 2aH Feed Poster on May 01, 2013, 05:00:05 PM
5/2/13 SB69: Received notice of passage on Final Reading in House (Hse. Com. No. 761). (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)
2 May 2013, 3:00 am

5/2/13 SB69: Senate Status Update

Source: SB69 Status Feed (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)

Title: 5/7/13 SB69: Enrolled to Governor.
Post by: 2aH Feed Poster on May 07, 2013, 01:00:03 PM
5/7/13 SB69: Enrolled to Governor. (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)
7 May 2013, 3:00 am

5/7/13 SB69: Senate Status Update

Source: SB69 Status Feed (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013)