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Title: 2013 SB219: Assault Weapons Ban
Post by: 2aHawaii on January 18, 2013, 04:29:45 AM
Measure Title: RELATING TO FIREARMS. 
Report Title:   Firearms; Assault Weapons; Machine Guns; Ban 
Description:  Prohibits the distribution, transport, importation into the State, keeping for sale, or offering or exposing for sale assault weapons, or giving to another person assault weapon. Defines assault weapon. Prohibits the possession, sale, transfer, or use of a machine gun in the perpetration or attempted perpetration of certain crimes. Defines machine gun. Makes use of an assault weapon or machine gun in the course of committing murder in the first degree or second degree, manslaughter, kidnapping, sexual assault, assault in the first or second degree, robbery, burglary, or theft subject to criteria for extended term of imprisonment. 
Companion:  
Package: None 
Current Referral:   
Introducer(s): IHARA (Introduced by request of another party) 


1/18/13 SB219: Introduced. (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=219&year=2013)
18 January 2013, 3:00 am

1/18/13 SB219: Senate Status Update

Source: SB219 Status Feed (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=219&year=2013)

Title: Re: 2013 SB219: Assault Weapons Ban
Post by: new guy on January 18, 2013, 12:50:47 PM
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Title: 1/18/13 SB219: Passed First Reading.
Post by: 2aHawaii on January 18, 2013, 01:00:12 PM
1/18/13 SB219: Passed First Reading. (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=219&year=2013)
18 January 2013, 3:00 am

1/18/13 SB219: Senate Status Update

Source: SB219 Status Feed (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=219&year=2013)

Title: Re: 2013 SB219: Assault Weapons Ban
Post by: SgtC-USMC on January 18, 2013, 11:36:23 PM
We should support SB274 Concealed Carry and SB 262 Open Carry and vehemently oppose SB 219.

It sounds good...it's just a ban....like in 1994...it's in line with Obama's federal proposal...we've done it before....

BUT the huge difference is this bill make it a felony to possess an "assault weapon"

We need to be Calm, Cool and Collected....however we need to voice our strongest opposition to SB 219.

SgtC-USMC
Title: 2013 SB219: Assault Weapons Ban
Post by: Dolomite on January 19, 2013, 09:53:58 AM
I signed up for email notifications on this bill so I can submit testimony as soon as its available....

The tyrannical government shouldn't be allowed to take our weapons and should have a grandfather clause....

I sense a revolution in the near future....

Notice how these things are done after the election... What till the next election none of these fools will be re-elected...
Title: 1/22/13 SB219: Referred to PSM/CPN, JDL.
Post by: 2aH Feed Poster on January 22, 2013, 02:00:26 PM
1/22/13 SB219: Referred to PSM/CPN, JDL. (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=219&year=2013)
22 January 2013, 3:00 am

1/22/13 SB219: Senate Status Update

Source: SB219 Status Feed (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=219&year=2013)

Title: Re: 2013 SB219: Assault Weapons Ban
Post by: new guy on January 22, 2013, 02:15:21 PM
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Title: Re: 2013 SB219: Assault Weapons Ban
Post by: armsinc on January 25, 2013, 03:02:08 PM
Just read the curent configuration of the bill..... It sounds like if we were to use a bullet button it would bypass the whole assault weapons ban?
Title: Re: 2013 SB219: Assault Weapons Ban
Post by: 2aHawaii on January 25, 2013, 03:52:57 PM
Just read the curent configuration of the bill..... It sounds like if we were to use a bullet button it would bypass the whole assault weapons ban?

No one in Hawaii has tested the bullet button legality. So...maybe.
Title: Re: 2013 SB219: Assault Weapons Ban
Post by: hnl.flyboy on January 25, 2013, 05:24:04 PM
Just read the curent configuration of the bill..... It sounds like if we were to use a bullet button it would bypass the whole assault weapons ban?

I'll still be pissed if I have to use a bullet button
Title: Re: 2013 SB219: Assault Weapons Ban
Post by: durkn on January 25, 2013, 10:54:08 PM
SECTION 3. This Act does not affect rights and duties that
matured, penalties that were incurred, and proceedings that were
begun before its effective date.

Seems like THIS is a grandfather clause.
Title: Re: 2013 SB219: Assault Weapons Ban
Post by: WCMTWS on January 25, 2013, 11:21:42 PM
Bullet button? Yeah, no thanks.
Title: Re: 2013 SB219: Assault Weapons Ban
Post by: DjEROQ on January 26, 2013, 09:16:17 AM
Just read the curent configuration of the bill..... It sounds like if we were to use a bullet button it would bypass the whole assault weapons ban?

What's a bullet button?
Title: 2013 SB219: Assault Weapons Ban
Post by: K30l4 on January 26, 2013, 11:20:25 AM
Bullet Button

http://sbcoalition.org/2012/09/the-deadly-bullet-button/
Title: Re: 2013 SB219: Assault Weapons Ban
Post by: DjEROQ on January 27, 2013, 07:53:06 AM
Ahhh so des neh thx.  :shaka:
Title: 1/28/13 SB219: Re-Referred to PSM/CPN/JDL, WAM.
Post by: 2aH Feed Poster on January 27, 2013, 09:00:10 AM
1/28/13 SB219: Re-Referred to PSM/CPN/JDL, WAM. (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=219&year=2013)
28 January 2013, 3:00 am

1/28/13 SB219: Senate Status Update

Source: SB219 Status Feed (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=219&year=2013)

Title: Re: 2013 SB219: Assault Weapons Ban
Post by: bass monkey on January 27, 2013, 09:02:33 AM
Does anyone know why it gets re-refereed to PSM/CPN/JDL?
Is this a way to get around the system.  first time it got opposition so they re-refer it?
Also is there any chance the bill can die here before making it any farther?
Title: 2013 SB219: Assault Weapons Ban
Post by: Jl808 on January 27, 2013, 09:13:45 AM
Im not super familiar but as i understand, bill gets referred to the committees who hear the bill, made a decision on it then bring it back to the full house or senate with a recommendation and for voting.

I believe the committees can kill a bill by not bringing it up for a hearing and tabling it.

Here's the full legislative process outlined.
http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/session2011/docs/citizensguide/HowaBillBecomesLaw.pdf

Both house and senate will have to approve the bill this way before it goes to the governor for signing. Then it becomes law.
Title: Re: 2013 SB219: Assault Weapons Ban
Post by: bass monkey on January 27, 2013, 09:52:15 AM
cool thanks for the link.  Ill have to read up on it.
Title: Re: 2013 SB219: Assault Weapons Ban
Post by: Rattus58 on January 28, 2013, 05:21:02 PM
There are several bills that show the agenda and whether ignorance or not, the disregard to factual information in their move to ban guns in Hawaii, immediately, and a nationwide disarmament ultimately. You have to wonder about the ultimate agenda because it seems to have little to do with protecting the "children"

There is an article in Hawaii Free Press http://www.hawaiifreepress.com/ArticlesMain/tabid/56/ArticleType/ArticleView/ArticleID/8736/Default.aspx (http://www.hawaiifreepress.com/ArticlesMain/tabid/56/ArticleType/ArticleView/ArticleID/8736/Default.aspx) that I'm also trying to get into other venues to help with this discussion. West Hawaii Today is going to publish it and hopefully we can get others to publish more articles regarding this issue of guns in Hawaii... which since the days of my birth, back in the 1940's, almost every plantation home had a gun.

Another aspect of this that we are trying to enlist other sportsmen to get involved, just as we need to involve ourselves in their issues as well, and they are embroiled as thoroughly as hunters are in resources and issues. I'm trying to get Hawaii Fishing News to give us some help in how to unite sportsmen here in Hawaii and maybe even consider a sportsmens rally at the Capitol to think about..

Much Aloha....
Title: Re: 2013 SB219: Assault Weapons Ban
Post by: ajm008 on February 05, 2013, 06:42:55 AM
5134-B Sale or transfer of assault weapon prohibited. (a)
Any person who, within this State, distributes, transports, or
imports into the State, keeps for sale, or offers or exposes for
sale, or who gives any assault weapon, shall be guilty of a
class B felony.

Any individual may arrange in advance to
relinquish an assault weapon to a county police department or
the department of public safety for disposal, without penalty.

I need some help here... Does this mean if the bill passes we will not be able to go to an FFL and ship our rifles to another State?  :wacko:
Title: Re: 2013 SB219: Assault Weapons Ban
Post by: clshade on February 05, 2013, 08:37:53 AM
^^^^

Yes.

Keep in mind that this bill was not written by a legislator. Sen. Ihara introduced it, as is his policy, because one of his constituents wrote it and gave it to him. While that doesn't mean the bill is harmless, it does mean that it probably doesn't have anyone pushing it. That's a good thing. This bill is unlikely to get out of committee.

I check it everyday, though, to see if a hearing has been scheduled.
Title: 12/18/13 SB219: Carried over to 2014 Regular Session.
Post by: 2aH Feed Poster on January 29, 2014, 09:16:30 AM
12/18/13 SB219: Carried over to 2014 Regular Session. (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=219&year=2014)
18 December 2013, 3:00 pm

12/18/13 SB219: Status Update

Source: SB219 Status Feed (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=219&year=2014)