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Tools and Uses => Competition => Topic started by: kujo on January 19, 2013, 12:58:26 PM
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Some say “opportunity doesn’t come knocking…” well, I beg to differ.
Calling out all High Power Service Rifle and Service Pistol shooters residing in greater Hawaii area: this is a OPEN invitation to compete in this year’s USMC Pacific Division Rifle/Pistol Competition (PACDIV) aboard Pu'uloa Rifle Training Facility located in historic Ewa . for ease of reading, below are pertinent info of upcoming competition:
Background: Competition is 11-day training evolution hosted by accomplished members of USMC Marksmanship Training Team from Quantico, VA. Training consists of honing basic and advanced marksmanship techniques with the service rifle and pistol. It closely resembles the current course of fire shot by NRA High Power Rifle and CMP EIC Pistol match platform. Most importantly, this training exercise is formatted to suit beginner to advanced skilled shooters using the effective “crawl-walk-run” mentality. Regardless of the level of your skill set, this training evolution will make you more consistent and reliable primarily due to its SIMPLICITY. Excellences in the basics are an absolute must and a pillar for future success.
WHAT: 2013 USMC Pacific Division Competition (PACDIV)
WHO: Open to all civilian, active duty/reserve/retiree components of Arm Forces
WHERE: Pu’uloa Rifle Training Facility, Ewa
WHEN: 4-15 Feb (last day fire individual competition: 13 Feb)
Coordinating Instructions: refer to below webpage for additional info pertaining to this competition:
http://www.marines.mil/News/Messages/MessagesDisplay/tabid/13286/Article/136455/marine-corps-bulletin-mcbul-3591-competition-in-arms-program-ciap-for-calendar.aspx (http://www.marines.mil/News/Messages/MessagesDisplay/tabid/13286/Article/136455/marine-corps-bulletin-mcbul-3591-competition-in-arms-program-ciap-for-calendar.aspx)
Important dates:
24 Jan- Team Captain’s meeting/match info, Pu’uloa RTF, time: 1000 (tenant Teams required; all others optional)
1 Feb- Competitor check-in/weapons turn-in (shooters in Armed Forces: Team Captains check-in their shooters, all civilian MUST check-in)
4-15 Feb- Competition dates.
Administrative and logistical info will be addressed during Team Captain's meeting and/or contacting below email (gear list, day-day schedule of events, chow etc).
Authorized weapon: rifle- M16A4, M4 variant or civilian equivalent with Rifle Combat Optic (RCO) or iron sights. Pistol: service M9. Limited weapons available for issue to Active Duty USMC service components ONLY.
Reply to this or via Email (Jordan.kramp@gmail.com) for questions and concerns you may have. See you on the firing range!
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Man, if I wasn't a full-time student...
I'd be down if I could just show up for the prematch and match days, but I just can't miss that much school.
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understandable. asking two weeks off from work and school is very demanding. granted this match is geared toward active duty/retirees in Armed Forces; however, we can always look into accommodating those from the working class. at a minimum, all pre-lim classes and match days are not waiverable in order to be considered for EIC points.
I will post the match day-by-day schedule shortly. Deadline for sign up is close of business 1 Feb. i also post a shooter's registration form, save a trip down to Pu'uloa.
limited quantity of wpns available for issue for AD military. Tenant command shooters recommend brining command wpns for use.
Civilian shooters that can provide their own wpns and still interested but realize dedicating two weeks to shooting is difficult, we can address modifying your participation days on case by case basis.
"focus on giving yourself a reason to participate vise a reason not to...." Our staff and I are more than willing accommodate various obstacles you may have. However we will not compromise the integrity of marksmanship training nor modify eligibility for EIC points.
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I understand. I attended 2012 Eastern Division Matches and shot in 2012 Marine Corps Championships. It's a lot of good info in the classes, and if anyone has time and ammo, I highly suggest it.
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"Match" weapons are normally not allowed for this event. This means AR15A2 barrels must be "government profile", triggers are stock without obvious stoning and filing. Sights must be standard as issued type. If you have the time and equipment, attend. This training is the best bang for buck for real marksmanship training. Magpul, Gunsite, Front Site, and the the other glam training won't give you the level of instruction the Pac Divs offer.
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Where do we sign up?
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Oahu is just too far to go...and who would feed my cats?
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attached is registration form for this competition. Civilian read notes on this form, you will find it very useful. official check in goes 1 Feb for all shooters or team captains; however, civilians, if you fill this form out and send it back to me, your show time will be first day of classes 0900, 4 Feb.
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I think it depends on what type of training you are looking for. Industry training partners like Magpul, Costa Ludus, Panteo Group or 21st Century Gunfighter provide similar dynamic training which folks around the government and military attend.
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I think it depends on what type of training you are looking for. Industry training partners like Magpul, Costa Ludus, Panteo Group or 21st Century Gunfighter provide similar dynamic training which folks around the government and military attend.
PACDIV Matches are NOTHING like what Magpul, Costa Ludus, Panteo Group, or 21st Century Gunfighter, or any other tactical training has to offer. It has nothing to do with being tactical. It's all about getting rounds downrange as accurately as possible. There are no multiple target engagements, no "Mozambique" drills, no bipods, no rifle to pistol transitions, ...You send bullets into a small bullseye and hit it consistently to win. PACDIVs are all about the basics and stretching those out to the breaking point of the rifle (i.e., 3 MOA rifle shooting a 15" bullseye at 500 yards).
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Aloha fellow lead slingers!
Blood, guts and glory! LITERALLY. Attached are some pics of 1st week PACDIV matches. 150 people humbling themselves on the rifle and pistol ranges. Practice is all wrapped up and match day is monday and tuesday. Wish all the competitors best of luck; 13 LEG medals per weapon, total of 26, are up for grabs!
regards,
-JK
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:thumbsup:
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Who are the Army people?
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Wish I could attend....
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Wish I could attend....
Me too...
If anyone needs a shooting jacket, left hand glove (for right handed shooters), ammo pouch (nice to use while standing), and chair, I have them available to be borrowed as a set (all bought from Creedmoor Sports).
I also have a leather sling, but I'd only loan that out to someone I personally know well...
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Well, this year's Pacific Division Matches culminated today with the conclusion of awards ceremony aboard MCBH. I like thank all for attending and with only standing room available, it was welcoming sight to see so many show up to support the program. Congratulations to all the winners more importantly to the competitors of other services including from the civilian sector. Regardless of how the overall results panned out, i have no doubt you are expondentially better today in the world of marksmanship than you were two weeks ago. Continue to shoot, continue to refine your skill set and hopefully we'll see you all out here next year!
Be on look out for practice rifle/pistol matches in near future aboard Puuloa Range Facility.
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OH MY GOD CPL SOOKDEO WAS THERE!
Is there a way to contact him? I want to thank him for his help in 2012 Marine Corps Championships.
Was Gunny Otto around? I don't remember everyone else from the team, but those two left the biggest impressions on me.
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OH MY GOD CPL SOOKDEO WAS THERE!
Is there a way to contact him? I want to thank him for his help in 2012 Marine Corps Championships.
Was Gunny Otto around? I don't remember everyone else from the team, but those two left the biggest impressions on me.
Sookdeo headed back to Quantico. I believe Otto has retired. glad to hear they have left a lasting impression.
regards,
-JK
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800 agg match tomorrow! I'll be there as OIC/RSO. Might shoot if there is a chance.
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Is there a Schedule for these weekend shooting clinics?
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Is there a Schedule for these weekend shooting clinics?
www.puuloa.com (http://www.puuloa.com)
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www.puuloa.com (http://www.puuloa.com)
So the answer is "no", then?
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So the answer is "no", then?
I was trying to point to the website. The events that are scheduled are usually posted there. I know the club just got their renewal from the Marines, so they may be in the midst of creating a schedule and posting it. The Pac Divs were the last clinics and we may be hosting the All Guard team at the end of the FY 2013.
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Is there a Schedule for these weekend shooting clinics?
Puuloa Rifle Club fires here every month (used to fire Pistol to but i don't think they've shot pistol in awhile for some reason) If your interested in firing the rifle from 200-600 yards than i would look up their website and inquire about joining or firing as a guest. not sure if you HAVE to join their club to fire on the days club...i do know that if your a Marine, they will provide match gun and ammo to participate. you will need to coordinate this with Marines working there.
The Marines that work there sometimes host Saturday rec-fire from 08-1200. they had one last week, AD service members and special guests. They invited civilians that lived next to the ranges which is pretty intuitive idea, since they work and live in the same area. To say the least, it was great experience! they brought out M16, M4 rifle, 9mm pistols and match .22 and .45 1911 pistols. we all signed a form preventing any one from suing the military if we got hurt. We started at the 7 yard line familiarization phase with all weapons than we all participated in combat style (diluted version for safety) shooting with our choice of wpn which was quite exciting. it was organized and ran very well and it was much better than the usual firing, repairing target than just firing again all from the same distance. They also gave a clinic after rec fire pertaining to "bullseye" type of shooting which is one handed from 50 and 25 yardline. it was very humbling to shoot a weapon one handed and do so from that far away!
I think next rec fire is scheduled for 23 Mar, once its concrete i'll let you know.
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Sorry, not sure if this has been answered before but is the Puuloa Club open for non-military?
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Sorry, not sure if this has been answered before but is the Puuloa Club open for non-military?
No need to be military to shoot in the days we reserved the range, no need to be military either to join. We are like Schofield Rod and Gun, we need a ratio of 3:1 mil to civilian membership. I didn't know Puuloa Range opens up for rec fire, I only heard of KBay doing that on Fridays. I recognize one of our club officers in those pics.
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fa sho. I shot at the Kaneohe Range last week friday. it was a pretty good deal.
Cept there was a guy teaching another guy to shoot...who ended up just shooting 2 ft in front of the front burm the whole time...it was freaky.
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Is there a Schedule for these weekend shooting clinics?
i'd like to know too. im a relatively new shooter, and would love some instruction
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^ i ask a guy that works there about clinics and he doesn't know for sure but they may have one this Saturday or Sunday. the catch is, its by invitation only i.e. gotta know someone that works there or do what i did last time is go by there and introduced myself to the guy that runs the place. I know the Puuloa Club shoots this weekend so might be a good time to go check them out. i'm sure they wont mine some spectators plus you'll get to see what all the hype is about.
good luck
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^ i ask a guy that works there about clinics and he doesn't know for sure but they may have one this Saturday or Sunday. the catch is, its by invitation only i.e. gotta know someone that works there or do what i did last time is go by there and introduced myself to the guy that runs the place. I know the Puuloa Club shoots this weekend so might be a good time to go check them out. i'm sure they wont mine some spectators plus you'll get to see what all the hype is about.
good luck
just refer to schedule, EMAIL the club email address and our club president cram1903 AT yahoo.com. If we don't get a minimum amount of participants by the Thursday before the weekend shoot, it will be cancelled.
The problem we run into is not having enough people that want to shoot AND help with range operations. We only have a handful of Marine cert. RSOs that can sign for the range, a qualified medic and 2 beach guards. In addition, we need shooters that can help with target setup before AND after shooting. The targets are big as we shoot out to 600 yards and they sit on manually operated carriages. We take turns rotating out of the pits to spot for each other.
You will need a good spotting scope, a mat (if you don't want to lie in the dirt) , water, food for the day, sunscreen, open bolt indicator etc. If you are new to shooting here please ask for assistance. Safety is paramount!
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We will be starting a All Marine Hawaii Shooting Team in May. I am finalizing training plan for them and will consist of weekday/weekend shooting (rifle) in preparation for Interservice Rifle Championships held at Quantico VA July. I will cordially invite current Puuloa Club members and AD military to participate. Due to face-paced inherit nature of training program, dependents and civilians must have baseline understanding and experience of competitive rifle (High Power) training.
More to follow...
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We will be starting a All Marine Hawaii Shooting Team in May. I am finalizing training plan for them and will consist of weekday/weekend shooting (rifle) in preparation for Interservice Rifle Championships held at Quantico VA July. I will cordially invite current Puuloa Club members and AD military to participate. Due to face-paced inherit nature of training program, dependents and civilians must have baseline understanding and experience of competitive rifle (High Power) training.
More to follow...
that's awesome :thumbsup: almost all my shooting tips/advice came from Marines or former Marines despite coming from an Army background.
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that's awesome :thumbsup: almost all my shooting tips/advice came from Marines or former Marines despite coming from an Army background.
So sad this.
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So sad this.
I take that back. I had a fair share of Army: All Guard shooters, a Presidents 100 winner. You know I'm not active but not much locals are into serious shooting. Casual, zombie apocalypse, airsoft shooting - yes.
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I take that back. I had a fair share of Army: All Guard shooters, a Presidents 100 winner. You know I'm not active but not much locals are into serious shooting. Casual, zombie apocalypse, airsoft shooting - yes.
Many of those All Guard guys started in the Marines. Check their bios.