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General Topics => General Discussion => Topic started by: Lifer on February 08, 2013, 07:35:45 PM
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I respect law enforcement, but damn ! :shake: :shake:
The 2 females shot in the blue truck were delivering newspapers....WTF!
Police shoot dozens of rounds at innocent women driving similar vehicle to manhunt suspect (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHeICQpCGrI#)
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not a good time to be driving a pickup in LA
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Lets see...
It was a different make, different model and a different color than the truck they were looking for.
Dumb asses.
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That's messed up! Sue job! Smh! :'( >:(
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(http://static.onemansblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Undercover-Cop-Car-Fail.jpg)
Just goes to show how much thought and effort the LAPD puts into their jobs... :thumbsup:
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Hopefully someone brings up this incident on Peirs Morgan's show when he states that..
1) We don't need guns because the police will protect us in every situation. Even when they are not there.
2) All police are highly trained and proficient with their weapons, much more so than any private gun owner.
:crazy:
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I can see it now... Liberal news: "If the police, who are trained professionals, can accidentally shoot up innocent people, just imagine the damage the average person can do with guns."
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Talk about open fire!!!!
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Lets see...
It was a different make, different model and a different color than the truck they were looking for.
Dumb asses.
Initial reports were stating it was a blue nissan titan.
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That's messed up. SMH
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Initial reports were stating it was a blue nissan titan.
Well it is blue, and it is Japanese. Two out of three is'nt bad. Whatever happened to "be sure of your target and what's behind it" Pistol 101.
Glad the paper Girls survived!
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Initial reports were stating it was a blue nissan titan.
"Be on the look out for a blue or black truck in the California area being driven by a brown or black person between 4'5" and 6'11"
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"Be on the look out for a blue or black truck in the California area being driven by a brown or black person between 4'5" and 6'11"
You forgot to add shoot on sight!!! ( don't worry about positive ID, we'll figure it out later) ::)
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Did they come out as menacing with all those newspapers? They must have thrown more than 10 newspapers. Or had assault newspapers. They shot the sh*t out of that truck.
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I think this belongs here. ..https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow9jncNeTOA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow9jncNeTOA)
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"Be on the look out for a blue or black truck in the California area being driven by a brown or black person between 4'5" and 6'11"
Another article I saw stated it was a nissan titan
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shooter's truck was a 4 door nissan titan
blue or grey
i was really pissed at the newspaper truck shooting, and then i thought about it a bit
newspapers- early morning delivery
cops on high alert after one or 2 checkpoints shot up and officers killed/injured
it's like in iraq when someone unknowingly gets too close to a checkpoint and it sets off a response tat may not be appropriate to the threat level
chalk it up to the "fog of war"
Another article I saw stated it was a nissan titan
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LAPD is at war? With who...everyone who's not a cop?
Whatever happened to swearing an oath to uphold the law? Even if it had been the dude they were looking for in that truck, it's still not legal to just start shooting.
PS the police officers who opened fire could tell there were two people in the truck, and they were trying to kill both of them (shooting for the head). Personally, I think the officers involved in that shooting should be in jail.
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LAPD is at war? With who...everyone who's not a cop?
Whatever happened to swearing an oath to uphold the law? Even if it had been the dude they were looking for in that truck, it's still not legal to just start shooting.
PS the police officers who opened fire could tell there were two people in the truck, and they were trying to kill both of them (shooting for the head). Personally, I think the officers involved in that shooting should be in jail.
This. The LAPD is operating in LA, not Iraq.
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I can see it now... Liberal news: "If the police, who are trained professionals, can accidentally shoot up innocent people, just imagine the damage the average person can do with guns."
90% of the active forum users go to the range way more often than most of the police officers.
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This. The LAPD is operating in LA, not Iraq.
Maybe there is a reason that this guy is killing LAPD cops?
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ok
ok
let me put it this way
i'm not one hundred percent positive i would've followed the 4 safety rules in this situation
so i decided not to judge the officers as harshly as i originally was
This. The LAPD is operating in LA, not Iraq.
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Dorner has a growing fan club. Lots of people seem to be unhappy about police misconduct recently. All this pumping of fed money for turning law enforcement into a paramilitary occupational force is having a significant backlash. It's for the same reason why the drone programs will never work. When you maim and kill innocent civilians it turns the whole population against you.
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Dorner has a growing fan club. Lots of people seem to be unhappy about police misconduct recently. All this pumping of fed money for turning law enforcement into a paramilitary occupational force is having a significant backlash. It's for the same reason why the drone programs will never work. When you maim and kill innocent civilians it turns the whole population against you.
Stats on drone program and you can click on the leaders killed tab too. I'm guessing your view is they will never work because of the civilian casualty ratio? Unfortunately, civilian collateral casualties is a sad reality of the majority of combat operations, and our military leaders don't take that likely and assess the benefit to risk factor from available intel before ordering these strikes. IMHO I believe drone strikes will continue in Pakistan, Afganistan and possibly other countries as long as we are at war with terrorists, who happen to train and hide in those regions.
http://counterterrorism.newamerica.net/drones (http://counterterrorism.newamerica.net/drones)
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Stats on drone program and you can click on the leaders killed tab too. I'm guessing your view is they will never work because of the civilian casualty ratio? Unfortunately, civilian collateral casualties is a sad reality of the majority of combat operations, and our military leaders don't take that likely and assess the benefit to risk factor from available intel before ordering these strikes. IMHO I believe drone strikes will continue in Pakistan, Afganistan and possibly other countries as long as we are at war with terrorists, who happen to train and hide in those regions.
http://counterterrorism.newamerica.net/drones (http://counterterrorism.newamerica.net/drones)
As you can tell the drones haven't stopped bad guys from showing up though. I wouldn't exactly call the drone program a wild success and when armed drones are used on US citizens it won't exactly win over more people to the side of the federal government.
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Personally, I strongly disagree with the murdering of American citizens without trial. It is just way way wrong. Anytime you give government bureaucrats that much power, there will be trouble. They already have too much power as is.
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good thing they were delivering newspapers. i wonder how many bullets got stopped or slowed, perhaps saving their lives.
i havent read any of the articles, but i would also like to know what justification they had to open fire. "armed and dangerous" not cutting it
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These cops suck at shooting look at there groups... its all over the place!
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As you can tell the drones haven't stopped bad guys from showing up though. I wouldn't exactly call the drone program a wild success and when armed drones are used on US citizens it won't exactly win over more people to the side of the federal government.
In my opinion the alternatives are more deadly and devastating than using unmanned drones in Pakistan, Afganistan and other tribal areas. While Pakistan helps the U.S. in some operations, it undermines the U.S. in others. Therefore, we cannot simply outsource to Pakistan because there have been too many cases where the Pakistanis have alerted the targets in advance. So the alternative would be to use our military forces in theater to capture or kill these enemy combatants (terrorists), with a high probability of incurring further U.S. military casualties. The majority of drone strikes are conducted in tribal areas or mountainous regions. Edit: U.S. DoD stats on U.S. military casualties in Operation Enduring Freedom (OEF): http://www.defense.gov/news/casualty.pdf (http://www.defense.gov/news/casualty.pdf)
On the second point about U.S. citizens. I believe once a citizen of any nationality becomes a terrorist, hell bent on destroying the U.S. and killing as many American's as possible (often innocent civilians and children), they gave up their rights and should now be classified as an enemy combatant and should be treated as such. Just because he is a U.S. citizen, shouldn't change the definition of an enemy combatant. If we are talking about drone strikes on U.S. citizens that are located in known terrorists locations in Pakistan, I would have to assume our intel has definitively concluded they are a terrorist. Now if we are talking about capturing in the U.S., that is an entirely different story. JMHO
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This. The LAPD is operating in LA, not Iraq.
+1
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Personally, I strongly disagree with the murdering of American citizens without trial. It is just way way wrong. Anytime you give government bureaucrats that much power, there will be trouble. They already have too much power as is.
I argues with my fellow co workers about this. Not only American citizens but innocent civilians. I questioned soldiers' actions about killing and was accused of siding with insurgents. I think that we are a great country because of our violent precision.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! AND THEY THINK I'M GONNA GIVE UP MY GUNS!
I also have a lot of respect for HPD, but like any company, department, Group or "Well Orginized Corporation"
you'll always, always, always have, "The Idiot", "The Loose Cannon", "The I'll Do Whatever I Want"......
When you think about it, everyone thinks living immoral lives is ok now... So this is whats gonna happen now...
More moral laws are being broken and becoming "normal", so it's gonna start to bleed over into our crminal law systems...
My prayers go out to the women delivering newspaper...that totally sucks and angers me.......
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http://jalopnik.com/5983152/lapd-to-women-sorry-for-shooting-you-heres-a-new-truck (http://jalopnik.com/5983152/lapd-to-women-sorry-for-shooting-you-heres-a-new-truck)
LAPD's buying them a new truck. :rofl:
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http://jalopnik.com/5983152/lapd-to-women-sorry-for-shooting-you-heres-a-new-truck (http://jalopnik.com/5983152/lapd-to-women-sorry-for-shooting-you-heres-a-new-truck)
LAPD's buying them a new truck. :rofl:
Oh how thoughtful and considerate of the incompetent f*&@s. ??? Hell they should sue their asses for a huge sum of money for starters.
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http://jalopnik.com/5983152/lapd-to-women-sorry-for-shooting-you-heres-a-new-truck (http://jalopnik.com/5983152/lapd-to-women-sorry-for-shooting-you-heres-a-new-truck)
LAPD's buying them a new truck. :rofl:
Linked update in that story..
Another innocent in a truck was rammed and fired upon. LAPD is seriously going nuts. WTF??
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Why would they shoot at another vehicle matching the description when they already found his burnt out Titan near Big Bear.
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Why would they shoot at another vehicle matching the description when they already found his burnt out Titan near Big Bear.
Don't ask questions directed at someone who has already demonstrated deadly incompetence. Twice.
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Giving them a new truck is kinda insulting.....they should lift it, put some 34's on it..... :thumbsup:
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http://colorlines.com/archives/2013/02/lapd_had_no_idea_who_they_were_shooting_at_in_dorner_pursuit_says_victims_attorney.html (http://colorlines.com/archives/2013/02/lapd_had_no_idea_who_they_were_shooting_at_in_dorner_pursuit_says_victims_attorney.html)
"In the case with the two women, neighbors say at least seven officers shot at the vehicle, leaving bullet holes in neighboring cars, trees, garage doors and roofs."
So it looks like they hit the truck about 40 times and also shot up the community. :wtf:
"In a separate incident on Thursday a white male going to surf early in the morning was left with a truck full of bullet holes. David Perdue wasn’t struck by bullets but was injured in the car wreck, suffering a concussion and an injury to his shoulder, his lawyer told the LA Times."
So race nor gender matters here. Just shoot at trucks. Everyone needs a sign like this, hopefully all the officers are literate.
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And LL Cool J should stay home
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And LL Cool J should stay home
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LOL.
you found him!
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http://colorlines.com/archives/2013/02/lapd_had_no_idea_who_they_were_shooting_at_in_dorner_pursuit_says_victims_attorney.html (http://colorlines.com/archives/2013/02/lapd_had_no_idea_who_they_were_shooting_at_in_dorner_pursuit_says_victims_attorney.html)So it looks like they hit the hit the truck about 40 times and also shot up the community. :wtf:So race nor gender matters here. Just shoot at trucks. Everyone needs a sign like this, hopefully all the officers are literate.
(http://proxy.storify.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fpbs.twimg.com%2Fmedia%2FBC1dHvKCUAAxQY_.jpg)
And LL Cool J should stay home
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I laughed then realized how true it is. Then felt very sad.
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And LL Cool J should stay home
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Especially if he drives a pickup truck...
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Yikes! I would be nervous if I were him :crazy:
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i though he looked like Ruben Studderd
(http://ronernbphilly.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/ruben-studdard.jpg)
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Ruben should probably stay home too.
Sad thing is, the bulletin probably went out exactly like Dave Chappelle said
Dave Chappelle - Alibi (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4XHMfedYtI#)
Except replace the "black male" part with "any person"
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they are saying that dorner did a cabin invasion and tied up 2 people living there
one escaped and called authorities
gunfire reportedly exchanged and dorner is attempting to escape in a stolen car
Yikes! I would be nervous if I were him :crazy:
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Cops torch cabin where Christopher Dorner was held up (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCdqybEfy9w#)
police used "burners" to purposefully start a fire.
"We're going to go full-on plan with the burn"
"It's the one we're talking about"
"Burners."
"We have a fire"
edited to add words used by
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Cops torch cabin where Christopher Dorner was held up (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCdqybEfy9w#)
police used "burners" to purposefully start a fire.
"We're going to go full-on plan with the burn"
"It's the one we're talking about"
"Burners."
"We have a fire"
edited to add words used by
Setting fire to a building is standard operating procedure? That's pretty fucked up.
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they demonized the branch davidians just like they did with dorner. i don't believe the msm pushed story one bit.
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http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=50140947n (http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=50140947n)
video of shootout
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Setting fire to a building is standard operating procedure? That's pretty fucked up.
They say they are "pretty sure" it was him. Next to the charred body they found a wallet with his CA driver's license. Apparently, only the body got charred and not the wallet with the license.
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So the LAPD which seemingly had open season on trucks for a day is now issuing execution orders? Worse yet, they only "believe" it was him so they continued their trend of not identifying their target. For all we know this is a coverup and they burned a corpse to [insert conspiracy theory here].
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"pyrotechnic tear gas canisters"
its code name for we burned the place down because we are shitty people/murderers/corrupt like dorner said we were