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Title: DHS Supplier Provides Shooting Targets of American Gun Owners
Post by: TeamMidori on February 19, 2013, 09:39:39 PM
http://beforeitsnews.com/politics/2013/02/dhs-supplier-provides-shooting-targets-of-american-gun-owners-2494820.html
Title: Re: DHS Supplier Provides Shooting Targets of American Gun Owners
Post by: sliver on February 19, 2013, 09:47:25 PM
Some what scary.  Why would they need targets of pregant women and young children and old men?  When have they ever been a target other then during the Nazi's concentration camps and other mass genocides?
Title: Re: DHS Supplier Provides Shooting Targets of American Gun Owners
Post by: clshade on February 19, 2013, 10:20:51 PM
Makes sense from a training point of view.

Notice the target name is "pregnant woman THREAT."

If DHS wants to be prepared for some kind of civilian uprising such training makes a degree of sense.

It would be nice if DHS explained why they are (or seem to be) preparing for the possibility of a civilian uprising but I doubt we'll get that explanation.

American's don't have any terribly bad things about which to rise up. We all\ grumble about any number of things but we aren't anywhere near civil unrest. Makes me wonder what the DHS sees that we don't.
Title: Re: DHS Supplier Provides Shooting Targets of American Gun Owners
Post by: dirsh on February 19, 2013, 10:59:39 PM
Wow they really are preparing for civil war. I got an email from those team party guys that says Obama wants to confiscate our guns
Title: Re: DHS Supplier Provides Shooting Targets of American Gun Owners
Post by: SpeedTek on February 20, 2013, 01:05:30 AM
 :needpics:

This stuff is SCARY!
Title: Re: DHS Supplier Provides Shooting Targets of American Gun Owners
Post by: Funtimes on February 20, 2013, 08:52:08 AM
These targets serve a good training purpose.  Most people just don't train for that mindset.  If you were working domestic violence calls or active shooter scenarios - I can see where they are very beneficial.
People don't like it because it's not "PC" but most training isn't anyways.
Title: Re: DHS Supplier Provides Shooting Targets of American Gun Owners
Post by: Sturmgeschutz on February 20, 2013, 10:29:03 AM
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"I want chocolate ice cream NOW!"

Having survived three of my wife's pregnancies, I can tell you this is a very dangerous woman
Title: Re: DHS Supplier Provides Shooting Targets of American Gun Owners
Post by: clshade on February 20, 2013, 10:46:29 AM
The older fellow must be a friend of Joe Biden.  :D
Title: Re: DHS Supplier Provides Shooting Targets of American Gun Owners
Post by: sworbeyegib on February 20, 2013, 11:05:44 AM
Very unconventional yes, and I'm sure the tin foil hat crowd will be ALL over this saying "look see! theyre coming for us!!!".  But really it makes alot of sense.  Not every threat or bad guy is wearing a wool cap and has a 5 oclock shadow..
Title: Re: DHS Supplier Provides Shooting Targets of American Gun Owners
Post by: mln41 on February 20, 2013, 06:46:22 PM
These targets serve a good training purpose.  Most people just don't train for that mindset.  If you were working domestic violence calls or active shooter scenarios - I can see where they are very beneficial.
People don't like it because it's not "PC" but most training isn't anyways.

I think the targets in themselves are no big deal.  if youre in LE, you need to be ready for anything.


Title: Re: DHS Supplier Provides Shooting Targets of American Gun Owners
Post by: sic_semper_tyrannis on February 20, 2013, 11:18:31 PM
The DHS and Janet Incompetentano can go fuck themselves! If these fucks think they could win a civil war against armed citizens, they have another thing coming.
Title: Re: DHS Supplier Provides Shooting Targets of American Gun Owners
Post by: DK3 on February 21, 2013, 12:00:26 AM
I can see the need to train to shoot that little kid with no hesitation. What's the chances a little boy playing outside will have a toy gun. Most likely he's gonna have a semi automatic assault pistol with a high capacity clip.
Title: Re: DHS Supplier Provides Shooting Targets of American Gun Owners
Post by: Kingkeoni on February 21, 2013, 07:16:45 AM
Don't fool yourselves.

The ONLY reason for these targets is to desensitize them about killing innocent civilians, women, children and elderly.
Title: Re: DHS Supplier Provides Shooting Targets of American Gun Owners
Post by: dirsh on February 21, 2013, 09:39:22 AM
That's pretty messed up that they would train you to shoot at a young mother surrounded by her kids.
Title: Re: DHS Supplier Provides Shooting Targets of American Gun Owners
Post by: robtmc on February 21, 2013, 11:21:55 AM
Don't fool yourselves.

The ONLY reason for these targets is to desensitize them about killing innocent civilians, women, children and elderly.

Makes you wonder what sort of uproar it would create if someone would create targets of JBTs with alphabet agency ID on them.

I will be surprised if mention of these "Tea Party Clinger" targets ever gets out into the MSM.
Title: Re: DHS Supplier Provides Shooting Targets of American Gun Owners
Post by: 338KID on February 21, 2013, 12:21:36 PM
Makes you wonder what sort of uproar it would create if someone would create targets of JBTs with alphabet agency ID on them.

I will be surprised if mention of these "Tea Party Clinger" targets ever gets out into the MSM.

Oh god targets of alphabet boys ? "IF" they come knocking who here would fight back ? I mean I know a few and there's a few on here . A lot of you guys here have had exceptional training but would you use it againts the people who trained you ?
Title: Re: DHS Supplier Provides Shooting Targets of American Gun Owners
Post by: 338KID on February 21, 2013, 12:23:24 PM
Don't fool yourselves.

The ONLY reason for these targets is to desensitize them about killing innocent civilians, women, children and elderly.
.
KK god I hope your wrong .
Title: Re: DHS Supplier Provides Shooting Targets of American Gun Owners
Post by: TeamMidori on February 21, 2013, 12:48:47 PM
What's a jbt's
Title: Re: DHS Supplier Provides Shooting Targets of American Gun Owners
Post by: Sturmgeschutz on February 21, 2013, 01:50:28 PM
What's a jbt's

Jack Booted Thug?
Title: Re: DHS Supplier Provides Shooting Targets of American Gun Owners
Post by: sliver on February 21, 2013, 04:30:20 PM
Oh god targets of alphabet boys ? "IF" they come knocking who here would fight back ? I mean I know a few and there's a few on here . A lot of you guys here have had exceptional training but would you use it againts the people who trained you ?

even someone which was a navy seal or other special forces would have a hard time going against 20-30 guys by himself.  Espeically with 10 round mags...

Some times you gotta just accept your fked and give up.  I wouldn't fight back cuz I know they would just gun you down if you even tried anything. 

BTW:  Everyone on this board pretty much lives on a small island in the middle of the ocean (aka in the middle of freaking no where!), where in the hell are you gonna run to?  Lets say you go rambo and take out every single cop on the island, you then gotta deal with one the biggest military force in the world which is based in Hawaii!!!  Bottom line, just give up; you got no chance!
Title: Re: DHS Supplier Provides Shooting Targets of American Gun Owners
Post by: Funtimes on February 21, 2013, 05:21:15 PM
even someone which was a navy seal or other special forces would have a hard time going against 20-30 guys by himself.  Espeically with 10 round mags...

Some times you gotta just accept your fked and give up.  I wouldn't fight back cuz I know they would just gun you down if you even tried anything. 

BTW:  Everyone on this board pretty much lives on a small island in the middle of the ocean (aka in the middle of freaking no where!), where in the hell are you gonna run to?  Lets say you go rambo and take out every single cop on the island, you then gotta deal with one the biggest military force in the world which is based in Hawaii!!!  Bottom line, just give up; you got no chance!

Christopher Dorner was one man.  It took thousands of people to finally catch - corner - and kill him.  What would LAPD do if there was 10 christopher dorners at one time?  And this is small scale. Double that number or triple it.  Military here has to go home to their families.  Cops have to go home to their families.  Paul Howe has a great article on this.
Title: Re: DHS Supplier Provides Shooting Targets of American Gun Owners
Post by: crazy cat on February 21, 2013, 05:46:28 PM
“If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.”
― Samuel Adams
Title: Re: DHS Supplier Provides Shooting Targets of American Gun Owners
Post by: SpeedTek on February 21, 2013, 05:48:14 PM
So if I make targets of cops and judges and dhs personal I will probably get raided?

Would that fall under freespeech?

The last one is the biggest threat i think!
Title: Re: DHS Supplier Provides Shooting Targets of American Gun Owners
Post by: hnl.flyboy on February 21, 2013, 07:14:51 PM
Some times you gotta just accept your fked and give up.

Bottom line, just give up; you got no chance!

If the time, God forbid, ever comes...

ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ
Title: Re: DHS Supplier Provides Shooting Targets of American Gun Owners
Post by: Aegis808 on February 21, 2013, 08:59:57 PM
even someone which was a navy seal or other special forces would have a hard time going against 20-30 guys by himself.  Espeically with 10 round mags...

Some times you gotta just accept your fked and give up.  I wouldn't fight back cuz I know they would just gun you down if you even tried anything. 

BTW:  Everyone on this board pretty much lives on a small island in the middle of the ocean (aka in the middle of freaking no where!), where in the hell are you gonna run to?  Lets say you go rambo and take out every single cop on the island, you then gotta deal with one the biggest military force in the world which is based in Hawaii!!!  Bottom line, just give up; you got no chance!

the best thing about not being in a uniform anymore means it makes it so much harder to the tyrants to find you.
Title: Re: DHS Supplier Provides Shooting Targets of American Gun Owners
Post by: Funtimes on February 21, 2013, 09:15:48 PM
So if I make targets of cops and judges and dhs personal I will probably get raided?

Would that fall under freespeech?

The last one is the biggest threat i think!

I think it would qualify as free speech lol. Would make things interesting.
Title: Re: DHS Supplier Provides Shooting Targets of American Gun Owners
Post by: ImKu on February 22, 2013, 06:33:02 AM
even someone which was a navy seal or other special forces would have a hard time going against 20-30 guys by himself.  Espeically with 10 round mags...

Some times you gotta just accept your fked and give up.  I wouldn't fight back cuz I know they would just gun you down if you even tried anything. 

BTW:  Everyone on this board pretty much lives on a small island in the middle of the ocean (aka in the middle of freaking no where!), where in the hell are you gonna run to?  Lets say you go rambo and take out every single cop on the island, you then gotta deal with one the biggest military force in the world which is based in Hawaii!!!  Bottom line, just give up; you got no chance!

Ok, maybe I need a little help understanding a couple of statements like this, but from my understanding the Army, Marine Corps, and Navy do not fall under DHS.  Only military entity that falls under DHS is the Coast Guard.  So, is there now a general assumption that the military is going to come after you?  Is there a worry that if legislation passes a law with some sort of consfiscation that the military is going to enforce it?  I would like to speculate that at a minimum half of the active duty military that serve have a WORKING moral compass.  Theoretically, in my opinion, if a order ever came out to shoot and kill civilians for whatever reason, there would be a huge divide within the ranks of every chain of command.
Title: Re: DHS Supplier Provides Shooting Targets of American Gun Owners
Post by: swissk31 on February 26, 2013, 05:47:39 AM
Feds training to shoot children and pregnant women.  Target company pulls targets after being exposed.  http://t.co/cgbIMumQ78
Title: Re: DHS Supplier Provides Shooting Targets of American Gun Owners
Post by: robtmc on February 26, 2013, 11:09:16 AM
They pulled their online sales, never said they were not continuing making and selling them.

I am sure DHS has a large order still being filled.
Title: Re: DHS Supplier Provides Shooting Targets of American Gun Owners
Post by: TMac808 on February 27, 2013, 08:27:49 PM
But let me remind you of this- The last time a government tried to oppress the American people, the British army ended up getting their ass kicked.