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Tools and Uses => Reloading => Topic started by: oldfart on April 15, 2013, 11:33:25 AM
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Do you think there is genuine interest in having somebody actually teach a class on reloading?
Right off the bat, I can think of several; reasons why it would be a bad idea.
However, since there seems to be a lot of newcomers to the shooting community, I can see where it would be useful.
Especially with the cost of ammo today.
Pros, cons, suggestions anyone?
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I know a guy who's a reloading expert.....
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Good idea. I would go if offered. Always good to learn. Sheesh, I'm still in prepping my used brass stage for the past 2.5 years. Actually other hobbys taking up too much time right now.
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One reason I can think it wouldn't be a good idea is that your inviting people that you don't know to your place of residence and letting them know where and what type of things you have at your house
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I know a guy who's a reloading expert.....
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I'd like to meet him
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I'll introduce u to him
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more importantly
liability
One reason I can think it wouldn't be a good idea is that your inviting people that you don't know to your place of residence and letting them know where and what type of things you have at your house
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I would be interested.
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more importantly
liability
Yes that's true also. I would most definitely have a disclaimer. Reloading isn't to complicated all one needs to get are a few reloading books,some presses come with instructional DVDs also. Do a bunch of research and start loading
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I would definitely be interested.
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NRA offers classes! I never bothered to get my certification just because i didn't see there being interest. I may rethink that...
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utube has the bestest classes - free and available any time . . .
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I'm interested, I am just starting out so I have a lot to learn. Why not have a reloading meet up for lunch or drinks or fishing so people can get to know each other first.
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I bought a book called the ABC's of reloading. It was very useful when I started reloading. It covered metallic cartridges and shot shell for reloading. The book is also available as a ebook.
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I'm interested, I am just starting out so I have a lot to learn. Why not have a reloading meet up for lunch or drinks or fishing so people can get to know each other first.
My suggestion is to buy a (or several) reloading manuals. Sierra is a good one. It covers the basics.
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I read reloading for handgunners and in the middle of abc's of reloading. The next book I'm thinking of getting is Lyman's 49th edition or Lee's 2nd.
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"ABCs of Reloading" is good. Be aware that there are differences between editions. I think the most recent is the 9th edition. Different editor from the 8th edition, but the content is not radically different.
The Nosler manual is interesting and informative, especially if you use Nosler bullets. The Lee manual is a good read about the evolution of that company's reloading products. Wish I had bought that before I started buying reloading equipment. I also have one of those loosely bound, photocopied collections of load data for .223/5.56. It's OK, consists of photocopied charts from most of the major bullet makers.
If you reload for that caliber, there's another book that's worth getting: "AR-15 Ammunition Reloading: A beginner's guide to reloading ammunition for the AR-15 Rifle" by Christopher Ohland. I found it on Amazon.com, It is devoted only to reloading .223, and is very detailed. Helped me a lot when I got started. It focuses on using 69 gn SMK and Varget . I followed most of his recommendations and turned out useable ammo. (Ohland had an earlier version, called Rifle Cartridge Reloading, that is basically the same. the latest, 2010 edition has some refinements.)
After getting the hang of the 69SMK/Varget recipe,, I started exploring other powders and bullets, using various sources, including the annual Hodgdon guide and any on-line site or post I could find. Still learning, and happy to do it rather than pay today's prices for factory loaded ammo.
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If you do decide to teach, count me in! Just tell me when and where! I just started trying to reload and I think it would help me a lot. I watch youtube and started reading manuals but you can't beat someone actually being there and being able to ask questions. Like you said earlier there are a lot of newer shooters out there and newer reloaders like myself. I think you would be doing a good thing so we know how to do so safely. But, there probably is liability issues involved. I would hate for someone to try and do a good thing and have some asshole sue him because they hurt themself.
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Do you have all the equipment? From what point do you need to be taught? I no longer have any of my equipment, but I used to reload all of my ammo. What specifically are you looking for?
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I count about a half dozen people who like the idea.
I see other people who think it's a bad idea for various reasons.
Others just advocate watching youtube.
Considering that people nowdays have different work schedules, it is unlikely that there would be many students that actually show up for a scheduled event.
Perhaps a better approach towards assisting new shooters in learning to reload would be a mentoring program.
Perhaps veteran reloaders could volunteer to mentor newbies. There are also pros and cons to this idea.
Are there any experienced loaders willing to help novices?
There could be a dedicated thread where mentors and novices could post their available days and times then pm each other to meet.
Comments? ???
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gzire is right..more manuals the more useful...I have a couple older lee editions that have useful info for the beginner...pm me...amazon still has a couple challenger lee kits..just add dies, caliper, couple trays, if reloading rifle. you Will need some length gauges and trimmer. in caliber...and read read read.....kit is 160.00 free shipping.....ggood luck
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It is approaching 2 weeks since I tossed out the idea.
There does not seem to be any interest in volunteer mentors. A formal class seems too cumbersome.
So I will walk the walk.
I am willing to mentor 1 person per week. Preferably on Monday or Tuesday morning between 8am to 11am.
But if you ask for my help, you must also walk the walk. You must show me that you have already purchased a reloading press.
Send a private message with a picture of your press, preferably mounted on a table, and then we can pick a good day.
If you don't have a press yet, post a message with your particular needs and you will get plenty of opinions.
Like Harry says, "Opinions are like assholes. Everybody has one."
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any afternoon/evening/weekend availability instead? :D
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any afternoon/evening/weekend availability instead? :D
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weekend morning might be ok.
There is a lot of stuff going on this month though.
Seems like lots of relatives are graduating this year, my son too.
Don't you already reload? I saw your stuck 223 adventure.
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weekend morning might be ok.
There is a lot of stuff going on this month though.
Seems like lots of relatives are graduating this year, my son too.
Don't you already reload? I saw your stuck 223 adventure.
Am a newb to reloading still looking for the magic past "screw in the die to just touching the case and back it out 1/2 a turn" etc.
You did see the pic posted about the primer feed tube through the ceiling too right?
(luckily no that wasn't me)
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I'm still new at reloading. Watching lots of YouTube and learn briefly on single stage RCBS. Learning by yourself is not easy. You tend to triple check your loads and make mistakes. I was loading 45acp primer and was wondering why the large primer would not go in. Find out one of the brass had small primer pocket. Glad the primer did not go off. I made 50 and went to range. Fit case gauge and magazine ok. First round enter chamber for 1911. Would not fire, eject, second round, would not chamber. Felt stupid. I check oal from book and was fine. I compare to factory load and found out my oal was way to long. Will try again. My advice is that YouTube will not tell you everything. Take a class from someone who know what he is doing, ask question. Load safe
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^^^Be careful about the Youtube thing. You have no idea who is filming.
Do - buy reloading manuals from creditable sources (Sierra, Hornady, etc.).
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I learned to reload by reading the Hodgdon manual and carefully following the instructions that came with my Dillon XL650. It's not that hard, but there is no margin for error, so don't try to cut any corners and do exactly what the book says.
It really helps to have a chronograph, just to make sure that you're not doing anything stupid.
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I learned to reload by reading the Hodgdon manual and carefully following the instructions that came with my Dillon XL650. It's not that hard, but there is no margin for error, so don't try to cut any corners and do exactly what the book says.
It really helps to have a chronograph, just to make sure that you're not doing anything stupid.
You think we can send enough chronographs to everyone in DC and Hawaii State government? I'll donate if it helps!!
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You think we can send enough chronographs to everyone in DC and Hawaii State government? I'll donate if it helps!!
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Oldfart pm sent
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I learned to reload by reading the Hodgdon manual and carefully following the instructions that came with my Dillon XL650. It's not that hard, but there is no margin for error, so don't try to cut any corners and do exactly what the book says.
It really helps to have a chronograph, just to make sure that you're not doing anything stupid.
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I'm going to have to disagree. When reloading typical ammo, rifle or pistol, there is a fairly large margin for error. UNLESS you are loading close to maximum, obviously.
And a chrono is not needed to tell you if you are doing something stupid.
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If yer shootin yer pistol and the magazine blows out the bottom and spills ammo all over the ground....
Here's yer sign
If ya look at yer target and ya got oblong holes....
Here's yer sign
If ya load yer gun and the bullit only goes half way into the chamber...
Here's yer sign
If ya pulls the trigger and yer gun goes "plap" instead of "boom"
Here's yer sign
If yer sightin' in yer gun and the target looks like somebody shot it with 00 buck...
Here's yer sign
If ya find unburnt powder particles in yer box of reloads....
Here's yer sign
When ya go home and yer barrel looks like the inside of yer garbage disposal...
Here's yer sign
If ya have to walk more than 3 steps to find yer shell and the primers looks like pancakes....
Here's yer sign
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seen where got to pound the bolt for the rifle on the edge of the bench or have Mike use the leather mallet on your bolt handle to open the action.
worst case seen is where parts departed firearm and shooter has the what happened look.
reloading...................be safe
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I would be willing to take a class if ever offered by anyone. I really wish I lived on Oahu "oldfart" I would take you up on your mentoring program. If you ever visit Kauai maybe we could schedule a session. I am still in the information gathering stage of reloading, no press or dies or other accessories just yet. The more I read the more it interests me; aside from cost savings just the tactile input on my part of the ammo I will shoot is cool to me.
I will send you a PM just touch bases and ask questions if you don't mind "oldfart"
Mahalo
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I would be willing to take a class if ever offered by anyone. I really wish I lived on Oahu "oldfart" I would take you up on your mentoring program. If you ever visit Kauai maybe we could schedule a session. I am still in the information gathering stage of reloading, no press or dies or other accessories just yet. The more I read the more it interests me; aside from cost savings just the tactile input on my part of the ammo I will shoot is cool to me.
I will send you a PM just touch bases and ask questions if you don't mind "oldfart"
Mahalo
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`A`ole pilikia
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If you don't have a press yet, post a message with your particular needs and you will get plenty of opinions.
Like Harry says, "Opinions are like assholes. Everybody has one."
and most opinions like assholes are usually full of sh*t ;)
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So I will walk the walk.
I am willing to mentor 1 person per week. Preferably on Monday or Tuesday morning between 8am to 11am.
But if you ask for my help, you must also walk the walk. You must show me that you have already purchased a reloading press.
Old fart - this guy walks the walk
Mahalo for the lesson on how to reload for my .308 bolt gun and pointing me in the right direction :shaka:
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I'm a newby, have a press and will show up for a class if offered. Maybe make it a potluck type affair...?
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I'm a newby, have a press and will show up for a class if offered. Maybe make it a potluck type affair...?
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Welcome to the forum. Why don't you go to the introductory thread and tell us a little bit about yourself.
Have you ever reloaded before? Maybe with some friends or something? What kind of calibers are you looking to load?
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Intro complete. Not new to firearms but new to reloading. Looking to correctly reload .40SW, .223 Win and .38Sp/357.
Mahalo!
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Intro complete. Not new to firearms but new to reloading. Looking to correctly reload .40SW, .223 Win and .38Sp/357.
Mahalo!
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Welcome Kimo in Mililani.
I think it would be difficult to gather a group due to different schedules, including mine.
So when I have time, I try to help people out individually. Send me a pm if you would like some assistance.