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Title: Private party firearm transfer/sale question?
Post by: bojanglez on April 18, 2013, 08:35:26 PM
howzit new to the forum. Had a question about selling/transferring a firearm. My friend who lives in CA is coming here next month and interested in buying my pistol from me. What would be the procedure for this? Would he need to obtain a permit to acquire a handgun and wait 14 days and then I can transfer it to him like any other resident purchasing a handgun for the 1 st time hawaii? He used to live here but a CA resident now and never owned a firearm. and hes only here for a week so that probably wouldnt work. Or can we just go to an FFL or the police department and transfer it to him? Assuming he will need to get a permit but anyone in the know please inform me. thanks!
Title: Re: Private party firearm transfer/sale question?
Post by: moosed on April 18, 2013, 09:02:11 PM
Is the friend MOVING to Hawaii and taking up residency?  If so, then you can do a private party sale.

If not, then you have to ship the gun to an FFL in CA, and the friend goes through his state's requirements to pick it up.  You need to notify HPD of the sale so the gun is no longer registered to you.

All the rules are in HRS 134

http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol03_Ch0121-0200D/HRS0134/HRS_0134-.htm (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol03_Ch0121-0200D/HRS0134/HRS_0134-.htm)
Title: Re: Private party firearm transfer/sale question?
Post by: Kingkeoni on April 18, 2013, 09:08:13 PM
You won't be able to transfer it to him here.

He's only visiting for a week so the two week waiting period rules that out.

What you need to consider is whether the pistol is on the California approved list of pistols to own.

If its not, you'll ship it to a FFL in California for nothing. They won't release it to him.

If it is on the list, you'd need to send it to a FFL in California and your friend would need to go through the process to acquire the handgun in Californa.
Title: Re: Private party firearm transfer/sale question?
Post by: bojanglez on April 18, 2013, 09:12:11 PM
thanks for the quick responses. he will not be moving to hawaii so it looks like it will be a big pain. thanks for clarifying. anyone wanna buy a sig lol?
Title: Re: Private party firearm transfer/sale question?
Post by: moosed on April 18, 2013, 09:14:27 PM
thanks for the quick responses. he will not be moving to hawaii so it looks like it will be a big pain. thanks for clarifying. anyone wanna buy a sig lol?

Only one way to find out!  Post it to the Classifieds: Firearms section with a price.  Read the rules before posting.

Classifieds: Firearms  http://2ahawaii.com/index.php?board=7.0 (http://2ahawaii.com/index.php?board=7.0)

Rules:  http://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=2.0 (http://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=2.0)
Title: Re: Private party firearm transfer/sale question?
Post by: bojanglez on April 18, 2013, 09:42:02 PM
its been on consignment at a local ffl. can I promote it through the classifieds is that allowed?
Title: Re: Private party firearm transfer/sale question?
Post by: moosed on April 18, 2013, 10:11:49 PM
Can't answer that.  You need to abide by the consignment agreement.  If you sell it here, I imagine you still owe the store their commission. 

They can't stop you from selling it for them.  In fact, you'll be doing their job of selling it, and they get paid! 
Title: Re: Private party firearm transfer/sale question?
Post by: bojanglez on April 18, 2013, 11:11:47 PM
yea i was just going to post what it is for sale and which FFL to purchase at if interested. thats cool ya? basically just advertising my consignment gun for sale
Title: Re: Private party firearm transfer/sale question?
Post by: moosed on April 18, 2013, 11:16:57 PM
As long as you post the price and pics, I think the other details won't matter!

Good luck with the sale!   :shaka:
Title: Re: Private party firearm transfer/sale question?
Post by: xer 21 on April 18, 2013, 11:40:54 PM
Make sure the pistol is on the CA DOJ approved list first.  otherwise, he cant own it.
Title: Re: Private party firearm transfer/sale question?
Post by: SpeedTek on April 18, 2013, 11:46:55 PM
Shipping any firearm is a pain in the butt to California.

The Shipping FFL needs to be listed with the Cali DOJ.

Then the local FFL needs to apply to C-DOJ and wait for a permit to export the Firearm to a Dealer in California.

You want to talk about a hassle?  I gave up.  I had to transfer a firearm to California. So instead I sent it to another FFL in Nevada and let them deal with it.
Title: Re: Private party firearm transfer/sale question?
Post by: bojanglez on April 19, 2013, 12:02:12 AM
Shipping any firearm is a pain in the butt to California.

The Shipping FFL needs to be listed with the Cali DOJ.

Then the local FFL needs to apply to C-DOJ and wait for a permit to export the Firearm to a Dealer in California.

You want to talk about a hassle?  I gave up.  I had to transfer a firearm to California. So instead I sent it to another FFL in Nevada and let them deal with it.

ya im not gonna bother. i just posted in classifieds. another one of my friends in california told me that all the gun stores/FFLs have collectively have agreed on 100$plus transfer fees to discourage purchasing out state and transfers. its crazy over there
Title: Re: Private party firearm transfer/sale question?
Post by: Cougar8045 on April 19, 2013, 09:13:41 AM
ya im not gonna bother. i just posted in classifieds. another one of my friends in california told me that all the gun stores/FFLs have collectively have agreed on 100$plus transfer fees to discourage purchasing out state and transfers. its crazy over there
Did you PM KingKeoni first?  Failure to PM KK for first dibs on any classified ad is a major breach of the 2aHawaii terms of service and grounds for summary banishment, or at least that's what I've heard...   ;)
Title: Re: Private party firearm transfer/sale question?
Post by: GZire on April 19, 2013, 12:47:38 PM
Your friend needs to comply with the rules & regs of California which are similar/different to Hawaii.  I don't know what those would be in this instance.

A second way to do it is have a FFL in California handle the transfer (provided they are OK with you as the Owner sending the fiream to them, some get touchy and might require that it be FFL to FFL).