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General Topics => General Discussion => Topic started by: Rdi on April 29, 2013, 01:57:45 PM
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It was fun fo da first time takin my son n wife out dea to shoot. dat all changed wen I noticed about 20-25 people shootin n only 5-8 people helpin set targets back up, da rule should be EVERYONE shootin on da line must go out n HELP set up targets if not pack ur stuff n go home u lazy bums... :grrr: is it jus me or anyone else feel da same way??
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It was fun fo da first time takin my son n wife out dea to shoot. dat all changed wen I noticed about 20-25 people shootin n only 5-8 people helpin set targets back up, da rule should be EVERYONE shootin on da line must go out n HELP set up targets if not pack ur stuff n go home u lazy bums... :grrr: is it jus me or anyone else feel da same way??
I agree.
I always go to reset targets after each iteration. It's been awhile since I shot on that side.
In addition, the brass vulture is another reason I don't go there.
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If you're knocking 'em down (or trying to knock 'em down) then you should help put 'em back up.
I practice this. Some days, I'm not there to knock 'em down, I just shoot at the ones that swing. Or at rocks. On those days, I still go out to help reset (most of the time). I figure that the more people who help, the faster it gets done. And the faster it gets done, the more time there is for shooting.
If it were me, I'd double the fee for the range. But then I'd give $5 back to the people who actually helped out. That way, everyone contributes!
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I agree.
I always go to reset targets after each iteration. It's been awhile since I shot on that side.
In addition, the brass vulture is another reason I don't go there.
Thanx fo contributing ur help in resetting much appreciated, n fo da brass vulture I think I kno who u talkin bout yea it's irra'z :shaka:
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I agree.
I always go to reset targets after each iteration. It's been awhile since I shot on that side.
In addition, the brass vulture is another reason I don't go there.
Call them what they are: BRASS THIEVES!!
If they didn't bring the ammo and shoot it, then the brass is NOT theirs. They should ASK before taking, or just leave it alone. I notice people asking all the time. It isn't that difficult.
Once the shooter sweeps it up, ask if they plan to keep it. If the shooter fails to clean up their brass before leaving, then you can be a nice guy and sweep the area for him! :thumbsup:
Taking something you know is not yours without asking permission first is theft by definition. Maybe that's just me?
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If you're knocking 'em down (or trying to knock 'em down) then you should help put 'em back up.
I practice this. Some days, I'm not there to knock 'em down, I just shoot at the ones that swing. Or at rocks. On those days, I still go out to help reset (most of the time). I figure that the more people who help, the faster it gets done. And the faster it gets done, the more time there is for shooting.
If it were me, I'd double the fee for the range. But then I'd give $5 back to the people who actually helped out. That way, everyone contributes!
Aloha, Tom_G
Thru dat, much mahalo'z fo contributing to help set up targets even if u not shootin knock dwnz n only swingers, I also dbl dat motion on da chargem dbl give back $5 but all in all da range officer should make EVERYONE go out n reset targets unless u have a valid HANDICAP CARD. Mahaloz :shaka:
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Call them what they are: BRASS THIEVES!!
If they didn't bring the ammo and shoot it, then the brass is NOT theirs. They should ASK before taking, or just leave it alone. I notice people asking all the time. It isn't that difficult.
Once the shooter sweeps it up, ask if they plan to keep it. If the shooter fails to clean up their brass before leaving, then you can be a nice guy and sweep the area for him! :thumbsup:
Taking something you know is not yours without asking permission first is theft by definition. Maybe that's just me?
Aloha, moosed
Nope i totally agree wit ya, OK dea r wat dea r BRASS THIEVES!!! Lol
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I went to the range last week and got there before 8. All the targets were down from the day before and I was the only one who went and setup.
The range master asked if anyone wanted to go out before he called the line and i was the only one who said yes.
Almost all the spots were taken and there were others with rifle cases. I made sure before I walked out that if I saw anyone shooting them I was gonna give them an ear full.
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It was fun fo da first time takin my son n wife out dea to shoot. dat all changed wen I noticed about 20-25 people shootin n only 5-8 people helpin set targets back up, da rule should be EVERYONE shootin on da line must go out n HELP set up targets if not pack ur stuff n go home u lazy bums... :grrr: is it jus me or anyone else feel da same way??
Dude, don't let it get you down. Yes, it's irritating, and no you're not the only one who feels that everyone should help out, but from what I've seen, common courtesy is like common sense, not so common. Don't think it's limited to the silhouette range though, it also happens at USPSA matches, same people helping to set up, break down,tape targets, etc., same people hanging on the sides. For me, I don't worry about those who feel they're above it all, I just try to make sure my kids know that they've got to do their part.
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In the greater perspective, the private org that runs the range has monthly silhouette matches which is a great venue for shooting and FOOD! $5 for both.
I agree that with more people setting up targets the lass the lull in between shooting.
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I went to the range last week and got there before 8. All the targets were down from the day before and I was the only one who went and setup.
The range master asked if anyone wanted to go out before he called the line and i was the only one who said yes.
Almost all the spots were taken and there were others with rifle cases. I made sure before I walked out that if I saw anyone shooting them I was gonna give them an ear full.
Aloha, Coconut-kid
I still think instead of da range master asking he should TELL EVERyONE to go out n set up targets, if u didn't or u won't den dnt shoot dea. da more people help da faster da line gets cleared to shoot hea's n idea next time we shoot dea n no one goes out to help I'm gonna take 1min per target to set up see how dea like dat one it's gonna take me 20-30mins to set it all up wat dea gonna say????? F dem lazy bastards LOL
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Aloha, Coconut-kid
I still think instead of da range master asking he should TELL EVERyONE to go out n set up targets, if u didn't or u won't den dnt shoot dea. da more people help da faster da line gets cleared to shoot hea's n idea next time we shoot dea n no one goes out to help I'm gonna take 1min per target to set up see how dea like dat one it's gonna take me 20-30mins to set it all up wat dea gonna say????? F dem lazy bastards LOL
I like that take long time. The last time I was there I felt the same way. It was my family and like two other people helped set up targets but then again my family can shoot good so we did knock down all the back row targets but none the less the front row still needed some help and 2 outta everbody there did it.
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Call them what they are: BRASS THIEVES!!
This amazes me. It would never even occur to me to take someone else's brass. If I'm sweeping up my brass and I sweep up some of theirs, I always give them their brass.
You really have to have a set on you (and a total lake of any self-respect) to steal someone else's brass.
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In the greater perspective, the private org that runs the range has monthly silhouette matches which is a great venue for shooting and FOOD! $5 for both.
I agree that with more people setting up targets the lass the lull in between shooting.
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I like that take long time. The last time I was there I felt the same way. It was my family and like two other people helped set up targets but then again my family can shoot good so we did knock down all the back row targets but none the less the front row still needed some help and 2 outta everbody there did it.
We should do it den if any of dem lazy bastards say anything we jus say it would be a lot quicker if people would help!!! Lol :thumbsup:
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I am always one of the few ones putting up targets between rounds too.
When people don't put up targets, I load up all my magazines and blast down all the targets in front of them first, then I move on to the ones in front of me.
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This amazes me. It would never even occur to me to take someone else's brass. If I'm sweeping up my brass and I sweep up some of theirs, I always give them their brass.
You really have to have a set on you (and a total lake of any self-respect) to steal someone else's brass.
People do it all da time if I need brass I jus look fo da guy lettin his brass go on da floor I tap him on da shoulder n jus ask hey buddy do u reload ur brass 75% of da time dea will say ya can have it wea did common courtesy go wat a shame.. :shake:
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I guess I should have been clearer: take without asking
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I am always one of the few ones putting up targets between rounds too.
When people don't put up targets, I load up all my magazines and blast down all the targets in front of them first, then I move on to the ones in front of me.
Aloha, Kingkeoni
Hahahaha das a good one too but WE ( all us target resetters ) should start a Club called ( Da Target Resetters Club ) lol n kapu all da benches.. Jus a thought :shaka:
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Aloha, Kingkeoni
Hahahaha das a good one too but WE ( all us target resetters ) should start a Club called ( Da Target Resetters Club ) lol n kapu all da benches.. Jus a thought :shaka:
A lot of "new" shooters don't realize that they're supposed to go set up targets.
I talked to the guy next to me once and he was under the impression that the people setting up targets, worked there.
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There was one time I was the only person out putting the targets back up out of the full range of people. I don't know if somebody said something but a bunch of people came out after I finished with 1 row
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I am always one of the few ones putting up targets between rounds too.
When people don't put up targets, I load up all my magazines and blast down all the targets in front of them first, then I move on to the ones in front of me.
Tough love, I like it.
I personally don't shoot at the little targets only the large ones. If it's the beginning of the day, I'll help set up. If it's the end, I'll help break down..............other than that unless the guy is handicapped, you're on your own.
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I guess I should have been clearer: take without asking
Oh no Tom U was totally clear I have had dat crap happened to me B4 n my 6'3" Great friend seen da guy take it off my bench while i was settin up target frame so he pressed da guy fo give it back or he would reload da Brass by using da guyz ass funny as hell to see him shakin in his boots tellin my friend he Neva kno we wasn't goin use it wen its sittin clearly in my ammo box for reloading..wat a dork 4 TrYiN to steal my brass :geekdanc:
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Dude, don't let it get you down. Yes, it's irritating, and no you're not the only one who feels that everyone should help out, but from what I've seen, common courtesy is like common sense, not so common. Don't think it's limited to the silhouette range though, it also happens at USPSA matches, same people helping to set up, break down,tape targets, etc., same people hanging on the sides. For me, I don't worry about those who feel they're above it all, I just try to make sure my kids know that they've got to do their part.
Different situation IMHO for a match than what's at the silhouette side.
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Tough love, I like it.
I personally don't shoot at the little targets only the large ones. If it's the beginning of the day, I'll help set up. If it's the end, I'll help break down..............other than that unless the guy is handicapped, you're on your own.
Thanx fo da help settin up GZire much appreciated.. Mahalo'z :shaka:
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Tough love, I like it.
I personally don't shoot at the little targets only the large ones. If it's the beginning of the day, I'll help set up. If it's the end, I'll help break down..............other than that unless the guy is handicapped, you're on your own.
You could have just said, "The targets I can hit!" We would have known you meant the bigger ones! :rofl:
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You could have just said, "The targets I can hit!" We would have known you meant the bigger ones! :rofl:
The only times I knock the small stuff down is when I shoot the crossbar by mistake :wacko:.............then I go down and set the small stuff.
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I was at the silhouette range last week. I arrived early and when I did there was one person out putting up the targets. So I joined them. I went all the way out past 100yds plus I put up a good part of the smalls up front. There were at least 6 people there and no one else helped. After the first round it was again that other person, myself and my buddy as the only people putting up targets. On the second round the three of us plus 3 young men went out. On the third round the three of us refused to go out. And after a short period some people finally went out when they realized no one else was going out. I went back out on the fourth round and again it was just me, my buddy and the other guy. I left before the next round and went to the pistol side.
My buddy and I were the only ones knocking off the smalls at the front and even the ones at a distance. Most of the people were shooting mostly at the targets that didn't knock down when hit. Maybe that's why no one else wanted to go out?
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I am too fat and lazy and cant walk fast. So i would hold up everyone and take twice as long. I dont shoot at those anyway. But thats no excuse.
But i do donate $ to the club.
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sounds like shooting a highpower match. Most just want to shoot and not work pulling targets, so there are slow pullers and paid pullers.
maybe if shooters took turns with the targets
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A lot of "new" shooters don't realize that they're supposed to go set up targets.
I talked to the guy next to me once and he was under the impression that the people setting up targets, worked there.
:rofl: well that's one good job that after I reset targets I can shoot um down before the customers do. :crazy:
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lots of people dont reset cuz they cant hit them. they only shoot at the gigantic plate at 50yrds. ;) shoot some black paint on the small targets while youre out there, ask the ro for a spray can.
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Different situation IMHO for a match than what's at the silhouette side.
Perhaps, but not a whole lot different. I was taught if you see other people working, lend a hand. Makes the job a whole lot easier for everyone.
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devils advocate, if you shoot the little targets then shouldn't you pick it up?
if you shoot the large gongs or plates then you should paint those....
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I'm sorry but too many times I've gone out to pick up targets and its only me and a few people. i don't even shoot at the small targets but i still go out and help reset them. it just makes me mad that the people that do shoot them don't even help.
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Perhaps, but not a whole lot different. I was taught if you see other people working, lend a hand. Makes the job a whole lot easier for everyone.
U was taught n raised well my frnd.. :shaka:
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Great topic for discussion, bruddah RBI.
I think it is entirely reasonable and justifiable to get a little pissed off if you and the fam are the only ones setting up targets.
Heck, I'd get pissed, too!!
Another consideration, like bruddah KK said, is that some of the other shooters on the line might be new to the sport and might not be aware of this "shared responsibility."
Some may argue that there are just some lazy, inconsiderate bastards on the line, and that may indeed be true...
But in the interest of proactively trying to solve the issue, I see a couple of possible solutions:
First, an individual could take a more passive aggressive route and put up the targets, while grumbling under their breath, shooting stink eye at those who aren't helping, and getring more and more pissed off.
Or, an individual could take a more constructive, pro-active approac, lead by example and:
1. Actively ask others around them to help, politely explaining that it is a collective effort, that it will permit them to shoot faster, that it may help them to get a bettter idea of the range to the targets etc.; or
2. Perhaps donate some time, printer ink, and plastic sheet protectors and print out some signs that read, "All shooters should assist with setting up targets," and asking the RO if it would be alright to staple them at various places around the line... the worst the ROs can say is, "no."
Now, if you ask politely and the other shooters on the line still refuse to help, then I say F them and shoot their targets first!!
Just my $0.02
:shaka:
Will look into puttin up signs but at da same time da RO should reenforce dat EVERyONE has to go out n set up targets.
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I'm sorry but too many times I've gone out to pick up targets and its only me and a few people. i don't even shoot at the small targets but i still go out and help reset them. it just makes me mad that the people that do shoot them don't even help.
I hear ya buddy das why I think all us target setters should start our own club n kapu all da benches.. Lol :shaka:
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devils advocate, if you shoot the little targets then shouldn't you pick it up?
if you shoot the large gongs or plates then you should paint those....
Oh so true but now if it could jus be put into action lol :thumbsup:
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sounds like shooting a highpower match. Most just want to shoot and not work pulling targets, so there are slow pullers and paid pullers.
maybe if shooters took turns with the targets
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Bbwwwhahahahahaha lol thanx fo da laughs. :thumbsup:
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When KK is with me i make him do my fair share.
I reward him with Junior Mints.
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When KK is with me i make him do my fair share.
I reward him with Junior Mints.
Bbwwwhahaha das kool but screw da jr mints at least hook da Braddah up wit one Klondike bar.. Lol
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I had this problem at a club years ago... one group always refused to reset their targets, So I'd go out and a drag my ass taking as much time as possible ... Tripping over their targets and halfassly resetting them, so as soon as I walked a away they'd fall over..They finally get the point and told me to sit down, they'd take of the targets
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devils advocate, if you shoot the little targets then shouldn't you pick it up?
if you shoot the large gongs or plates then you should paint those....
Then shouldn't you paint the small ones too?
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totally agree with you guys help out, it makes things run faster and smoother. but what really tripped me out was the last time i was there the old japanese looking man with the glasses who seemed to be one of the range officers started to sweep up my 45 brass that didn't make it into my brass catcher, went to go and look for my starline brass in the bucket and it was empty he would take all the brass straight to the back :wtf:
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When KK is with me i make him do my fair share.
I reward him with Junior Mints.
This story is half true.
I've never gotten any Junior mints.
He lets me flirt with his niece. (True story)
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Solution: stop being a wuss, and tell people "Hey man, why don't you go help reset some targets and stop being a lazy ass?"
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totally agree with you guys help out, it makes things run faster and smoother. but what really tripped me out was the last time i was there the old japanese looking man with the glasses who seemed to be one of the range officers started to sweep up my 45 brass that didn't make it into my brass catcher, went to go and look for my starline brass in the bucket and it was empty he would take all the brass straight to the back :wtf:
that must have been your brass that he was selling at the last gun show. He had a several pounds of brass
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totally agree with you guys help out, it makes things run faster and smoother. but what really tripped me out was the last time i was there the old japanese looking man with the glasses who seemed to be one of the range officers started to sweep up my 45 brass that didn't make it into my brass catcher, went to go and look for my starline brass in the bucket and it was empty he would take all the brass straight to the back :wtf:
funny i had the same experience from the same guy this past saturday.....
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My bad, guys. I've only shot there twice, but I'll try to help out next time.
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Solution: stop being a wuss, and tell people "Hey man, why don't you go help reset some targets and stop being a lazy ass?"
Funtimes,
Jus a heads up if ur gonna put ur pic up on hea u should watch who u call a wuss cuz someday somebody might show everyone at da range who da wuss is if u get my point >:D jus watch wat u say cuz some of us dnt play nice wit others wen dea start lippin....
Mahalo'z
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that must have been your brass that he was selling at the last gun show. He had a several pounds of brass
Lol
So dats wea he gettin da brass he was tryin fo sell to me as one shot brass wat a bunch of crock its called (range brass)lol
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funny i had the same experience from the same guy this past saturday.....
Paul96734,
Sry u guyz have fell victim to da Brass Thief dats really low to go steal someone's brass hope u guys find a solution wit dis situation.. :shaka:
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Paul96734,
Sry u guyz have fell victim to da Brass Thief dats really low to go steal someone's brass hope u guys find a solution wit dis situation.. :shaka:
I do not reload so the only issue I have is the not asking part. I would support it if any funds from his gathering went to the range upkeep.
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Paul96734,
Sry u guyz have fell victim to da Brass Thief dats really low to go steal someone's brass hope u guys find a solution wit dis situation.. :shaka:
Bro I would guess thousands have had the carcass picked clean by the Brass Vulture.
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that must have been your brass that he was selling at the last gun show. He had a several pounds of brass
Yah probably was some of mines paid 5 buck ti shoot and got probably over 20 dollars worth of brass taxed
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funny i had the same experience from the same guy this past saturday.....
Yah I feel u I would think that a brass catcher and 6 colored ammo boxes would be obvious enough but I was wrong I think he needs better glasses. I had to battle him with a broom and dust pan after everytime I shot if my brass didn't go in my catcher
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umm, rdi, i figure by your post count that you're new to the site
funtimes is a moderator here, and does more to support safety education and 2a rights than almost all of the rest of us combined (maybe all of us combined, but i'll hedge and say almost all)
some people may view what you just posted as a threat, just to let you know
Funtimes,
Jus a heads up if ur gonna put ur pic up on hea u should watch who u call a wuss cuz someday somebody might show everyone at da range who da wuss is if u get my point >:D jus watch wat u say cuz some of us dnt play nice wit others wen dea start lippin....
Mahalo'z
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umm, rdi, i figure by your post count that you're new to the site
funtimes is a moderator here, and does more to support safety education and 2a rights than almost all of the rest of us combined (maybe all of us combined, but i'll hedge and say almost all)
some people may view what you just posted as a threat, just to let you know
I'm a kool guy n I didn't take it personal I'm jus sayin if u have ur pic on ur profile n u call some people names dea jus might do something about it jus givin him da heads up he should watch wat he say especially if he is a moderator its even mo unacceptable dat he speaks dat way.. Mahalo'z fo da heads up Macsak
P.s if I say no threat is dat like sayin no racial... Lol :shaka:
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I shoot on the silhouette side all the time. But, never shoot the knock down targets. Do I help set up? Sometimes. Why? Because I'm surrounded by guys, shooting with scoped rifles knocking them down. Then they just sit back, and wait for everyone ELSE to set up. F that. I didn't shoot them down, so I shouldn't be OBLIGATED to have to help set up. I have noticed after a while, these lazy bastards realize that the targets aren't going to be set up, for them to shoot down. At which point, they start going out to set up. Now if I'm shooting with cool people, I help set up regardless.
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Funtimes,
Jus a heads up if ur gonna put ur pic up on hea u should watch who u call a wuss cuz someday somebody might show everyone at da range who da wuss is if u get my point >:D jus watch wat u say cuz some of us dnt play nice wit others wen dea start lippin....
Mahalo'z
I'm thinking someone attempting to assault the firearms instructor who has a loaded gun in his hand would be bad for the health and welfare of the individuals attempting that action. I can't really think of dumber actions that one could do lol, as I take my security and safety very serious.
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I shoot on the silhouette side all the time. But, never shoot the knock down targets. Do I help set up? Sometimes. Why? Because I'm surrounded by guys, shooting with scoped rifles knocking them down. Then they just sit back, and wait for everyone ELSE to set up. F that. I didn't shoot them down, so I shouldn't be OBLIGATED to have to help set up. I have noticed after a while, these lazy bastards realize that the targets aren't going to be set up, for them to shoot down. At which point, they start going out to set up. Now if I'm shooting with cool people, I help set up regardless.
This is exactly why I think the peer pressure might work. Put people on the spot and get them to go out! It's gotta be fairly obvious who is doing tons of shooting at them and hitting. I also imagine some guys are just going for the big gong style ones and really the chickens and squares.
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Yah I feel u I would think that a brass catcher and 6 colored ammo boxes would be obvious enough but I was wrong I think he needs better glasses. I had to battle him with a broom and dust pan after everytime I shot if my brass didn't go in my catcher
Recommend taking a small bucket with a sign: RANGE SWEEPER: PLEASE DEPOSIT MY BRASS IN HERE. MAHALO!!
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Funtimes,
Jus a heads up if ur gonna put ur pic up on hea u should watch who u call a wuss cuz someday somebody might show everyone at da range who da wuss is if u get my point >:D jus watch wat u say cuz some of us dnt play nice wit others wen dea start lippin....
Mahalo'z
umm, rdi, i figure by your post count that you're new to the site
funtimes is a moderator here, and does more to support safety education and 2a rights than almost all of the rest of us combined (maybe all of us combined, but i'll hedge and say almost all)
some people may view what you just posted as a threat, just to let you know
+1 to Macsak.
Rdi,
That post was messed up.
When you say some of "us" don't play nice you're including yourself specifically, because all of the other braddahs I've met on this site do play nice and know what Funtimes is all about and the contributions he's made.
I think that's the first post I construed to be a threat to another member in my whole time on this forum, as a lurker and a member.
Keep up the good work Funtimes ! :worship:
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I'm thinking someone attempting to assault the firearms instructor who has a loaded gun in his hand would be bad for the health and welfare of the individuals attempting that action. I can't really think of dumber actions that one could do lol, as I take my security and safety very serious.
Funtimes,
First off I apologize if it seem like a threat but jus sayin da road of respect goes both ways.. :shaka: n in dis day n age we all have to take our security n safety very seriously hopefully we can both drp dis n get :stopjack: to a better solution to solve dis slight problem of laziness at da range.. Mahalo'z
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^^^U R fawking killing me with the spelling man.
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This is exactly why I think the peer pressure might work. Put people on the spot and get them to go out! It's gotta be fairly obvious who is doing tons of shooting at them and hitting. I also imagine some guys are just going for the big gong style ones and really the chickens and squares.
Viet_ladin
Thanx fo da help 4 regardless if u shoot dem dwn or not u still go out n help set up.. :shaka: mahalo'z
Funtimes,
Yea peer pressure would wrk but we should get after da range master n put him on da spot fo not doin a better job to solve da problem of laziness ya think it would wrk?? :shaka:
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^^^U R fawking killing me with the spelling man.
Gzire,
Sry jus gettin lzy like da guyz @ da rng... Lol :shaka:
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+1 to Macsak.
Rdi,
That post was messed up.
When you say some of "us" don't play nice you're including yourself specifically, because all of the other braddahs I've met on this site do play nice and know what Funtimes is all about and the contributions he's made.
I think that's the first post I construed to be a threat to another member in my whole time on this forum, as a lurker and a member.
Keep up the good work Funtimes ! :worship:
Aieahound,
Thanx fo makin me realize we all here to have a good time n not dawg on people fo dea thoughts we do live in a world of free speech. Also a apology was sent to funtimes fo dis situation I will also apologize to u fo being da first dick to put up a wat people would take as a threat.. Hope we can get back to findin a solution to dis laziness at da range. Mahalo'z :shaka:
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I love this:
"An armed society is a polite society"
I wouldn't mess with Funtimes (The king of CCW). :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Just sayin'
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I love this:
"An armed society is a polite society"
I wouldn't mess with Funtimes (The king of CCW). :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Just sayin'
His CCW lawsuit went through? Who is his attorney???!! ;D :D
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mahalo rdi
we're all on the same team here
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Aieahound,
Thanx fo makin me realize we all here to have a good time n not dawg on people fo dea thoughts we do live in a world of free speech. Also a apology was sent to funtimes fo dis situation I will also apologize to u fo being da first dick to put up a wat people would take as a threat.. Hope we can get back to findin a solution to dis laziness at da range. Mahalo'z :shaka:
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mahalo rdi
we're all on the same team here
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Macsak
I also would like us to be on da same team. :shaka:
Mahaloz
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^^^U R fawking killing me with the spelling man.
Gzire,
Sry jus gettin lzy like da guyz @ da rng... Lol :shaka:
Gabby Johnson, Blazing Saddles rant (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pus6XF_qh38#)
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His CCW lawsuit went through? Who is his attorney???!! ;D :D
Still waiting :wacko:
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Recommend taking a small bucket with a sign: RANGE SWEEPER: PLEASE DEPOSIT MY BRASS IN HERE. MAHALO!!
yah no shit i think ill just bring a sign and use their bucket
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I have never shot on the silhouette side but I figured the 5-10 bucks you pay is for someone to go and pick up the targets for you. Heck I didn't even know the silhouette targets could fall down(I figured they are all thick steel cutouts welded to bars which are pounded into the ground). Can you shoot shotguns on the silhouette side?
You should never attribute malice to ignorance or stupidity.
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You can shoot pistol/handgun and .22 rifle.
I see the silhouette side as a give and take. It is ran privately and the $5 goes to the upkeep. A bare bones, do it yourself, help out where you can, type deal. I set up targets if I knock them down.Or, if I see the same people go out there time after time I will help out. I see setting up targets and sweeping your own brass as a way of showing appreciation for what we have.
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You can shoot pistol/handgun and .22 rifle.
I see the silhouette side as a give and take. It is ran privately and the $5 goes to the upkeep. A bare bones, do it yourself, help out where you can, type deal. I set up targets if I knock them down.Or, if I see the same people go out there time after time I will help out. I see setting up targets and sweeping your own brass as a way of showing appreciation for what we have.
Greenstomper
Mahalo'z fo da help in resetting targets :shaka:
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I have never shot on the silhouette side but I figured the 5-10 bucks you pay is for someone to go and pick up the targets for you. Heck I didn't even know the silhouette targets could fall down(I figured they are all thick steel cutouts welded to bars which are pounded into the ground). Can you shoot shotguns on the silhouette side?
You should never attribute malice to ignorance or stupidity.
Technically the $5 is supposed to be for insurance & target replacement & I guess paying the RSO. The numbers really never added up for me, but they provide a service so despite my bitching about not allowing carbines that shoot pistol rounds I get it.
Now the shotgun............sure it's allowed so long as it shoots 22lr.
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^^^U R fawking killing me with the spelling man.
Gzire,
Sry jus gettin lzy like da guyz @ da rng... Lol :shaka:
Me too...good thing I had my decoder handy for this one. :rofl: :shaka:
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Sheesh! This is the same attitude of many on the USPSA side who feel their match fee is meant to cover the cost of their fellow shooters to set up the stages for them. It isn't!!! :grrr:
If you're going to shoot, you should help set up.
I have never shot on the silhouette side but I figured the 5-10 bucks you pay is for someone to go and pick up the targets for you. Heck I didn't even know the silhouette targets could fall down(I figured they are all thick steel cutouts welded to bars which are pounded into the ground). Can you shoot shotguns on the silhouette side?
You should never attribute malice to ignorance or stupidity.
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Sheesh! This is the same attitude of many on the USPSA side who feel their match fee is meant to cover the cost of their fellow shooters to set up the stages for them. It isn't!!! :grrr:
If you're going to shoot, you should help set up.
Again though, people don't know.
We just need to let them know.
I'm sure most people would gladly help if they knew they were supposed to.
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Sheesh! This is the same attitude of many on the USPSA side who feel their match fee is meant to cover the cost of their fellow shooters to set up the stages for them. It isn't!!! :grrr:
If you're going to shoot, you should help set up.
I'm with you there. It's plainly obvious who does and who does not help. Some stand around the areas looking like they are helping while some don't even make an attempt to help set up at all. While we are finishing up the stages, they are already scouting the stages out.
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My feeling is you gotta cut the pistol guys some slack. A lot of them aren't even shooting at the knock downs, much less hitting them.
Last time I was there guy with .50 Desert Eagle wasn't hitting anything but his forehead from the recoil. :wacko:
If they're not shooting at the knockdowns I don't feel their obligated to reset them. If they do, then hey, their Momma and their Pops raised them right.
They should help repaint the gongs though
When I went, seemed like the .22 shooters were setting up, and that was good. If anything just tap the the rimfire shooter next to you and give them " hey, let's go "
I'm with KK in that some of them don't even know their allowed out there.
Seems like rimfire rifle guys knock down the vast majority of the knockdowns when I'm there. ( I'm a rimfire rifle shooter and my kids love resetting targets )
P.S. They allow .17 HMR which easily takes out the long distance knockdowns.
As for Brass, your own bucket with a sign sounds classic. " PLEASE PUT MY BRASS HERE "
Of course, he can have all my rimfire brass he wants.
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Greenstomper
Mahalo'z fo da help in resetting targets :shaka:
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I agree in that a lot of people don't know. Once someone asked me if they are supposed to go. Another time only me, my son, and two other guys were the only ones resetting. The third time, we only reset what was directly in front of us. When we walked back someone actually said, "wow, they only reset on their side". I should have said something, but I bit my tongue.
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When we walked back someone actually said, "wow, they only reset on their side". I should have said something, but I bit my tongue.
LOL! That's fantastic!!
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maybe some people don't go to help cause their protecting their brass.... lol
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I helped today! :thumbsup:
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Today, the ramge announcements included an appeal for everyone to assist. It seemed to work!
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Today, the ramge announcements included an appeal for everyone to assist. It seemed to work!
was it crowded today?
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I only gone to that side twice but both times I went to help out. It's actually kinda fun seeing what I hit (or tried to hit) up close and setting up more stuff for me to aim for.
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Everytime I shoot that side I set up targets. Close up, at the back, it doesn't matter. I've been the last one out there a few times, but I figure if people don't like waiting, they should come out and help.
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maybe some people don't go to help cause their protecting their brass.... lol
Lol thanx fo da laugh Gottah watch fo dem brass vultures.
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I helped today! :thumbsup:
Thanx fo helping set up.. :shaka:
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Today, the ramge announcements included an appeal for everyone to assist. It seemed to work!
Aloha, Tom_G
Yesterday my Cuzin dem went to shoot in da morning he called me up sayin if only a certain number of people can go out n set up targets I said no why?? He tells me only him n his kids n a few other people went out wen Get 25 people standing around watchin I told him wen he walks back to mention something to da RO I guess he did n it wrked I guess that might be da solution cuz he said after dat majority of da people went out on da next relay. Happy Shooting n let's all wrk together.. :shaka:
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was it crowded today?
Of course it was it was da weekend lol but my Cuzin did say first thing in da morning it wasn't so bad.. :shaka:
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I only gone to that side twice but both times I went to help out. It's actually kinda fun seeing what I hit (or tried to hit) up close and setting up more stuff for me to aim for.
Mahalo'z fo ur help.. :shaka:
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Everytime I shoot that side I set up targets. Close up, at the back, it doesn't matter. I've been the last one out there a few times, but I figure if people don't like waiting, they should come out and help.
Aloha, Dels
Mahalo'z fo ur help n a few words Frm uncle Si Robertson (duck commander) U got dat Right Jack!!! If dea dnt like it get out dea n Help it would get set up a lot faster.. :shaka:
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If you go out and help....you can find some pigs(Silhouette) hiding in the tall grass! Was kinda funny! Good for practice I suppose
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Rdi = Bulaia?
(http://bulaia.net/wp-content/uploads/et_temp/WHO-IS-BU-431067_441x269.jpg)
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was it crowded today?
Emoty benches when I arrived and empty benches when I left!
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Rdi = Bulaia?
(http://bulaia.net/wp-content/uploads/et_temp/WHO-IS-BU-431067_441x269.jpg)
Hahahaha das me my Braddah I like how'z u got BYRONz in da back I miss dat place.. :shaka:
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Emoty benches when I arrived and empty benches when I left!
Better empty than emoty.
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The silhouette side now runs harmonious with everybody helping and with that said I did the painting today :geekdanc:
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good job, bruddah dirty
hopefully, announcements and peer pressure will make it go smoothly from now on
The silhouette side now runs harmonious with everybody helping and with that said I did the painting today :geekdanc:
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good job, bruddah dirty
hopefully, announcements and peer pressure will make it go smoothly from now on
It's almost like I said something like that :P
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Macsak its all of our duty to participate in the activity. Funtimes peer pressure or just more awareness anycase its working :shaka: also the plink side started kinda full then empty by 1100 am i felt bad leaving so early being they extended the hours and all. :( but not so much cause i usually am one of the last shooters normally n weekdays when i go.
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i went to the silhouette side saturday for the first time ever to shoot my new pistol, and everyone went to set targets up.
heard two dudes talking about seeing this thread on the forums too. lol.
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i went to the silhouette side saturday for the first time ever to shoot my new pistol, and everyone went to set targets up.
heard two dudes talking about seeing this thread on the forums too. lol.
Rdi?
I would have sat down next to them, shot the crossbar that holds the small targets, then walked to the restroom during the break............. :geekdanc:
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this past saturday at the silhouette side,
when it was time to reset targets,
everyone heads for the 50m line to reset
i was the only one at the 100m line
I guess i'm the only one hitting targets out that far ;)
nah, I doubt it.
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I always go for the 50 targets first, cuz that's what I mostly shoot, but then I go and and set up all the other targets
this past sunday had the most people I've seen come out and help set up. was super fast
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I only put up targets on the 50 & 75 yard lines.
Those are the only ones I shoot too.