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General Topics => General Discussion => Topic started by: xer 21 on May 05, 2013, 11:03:24 PM
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So, being the new pistol shooter that i am, i dont have a pistol frame, so i was thinking of going to the silhouette side, but i've never been there, obviously.
how does it work? what are the rules? same as pistol side, or different?
what should i be practicing there?
Thanks in advance.
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Go to the office on your left, sign in and pay the $5 fee.
Find a station, shoot, help put targets back up..profit?
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Ask the guys running the silhouette side for advice once you get there. Super cool and helpful....
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you can also load 10 instead of 5 :geekdanc:
targets start at 50 yards though so its a little discouraging for new shooters.
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You can actually load your magazines to full capacity which is good. Targets start at 50 yards and go to 100. Some targets can be knocked down and theres a large plate there too. During ceasefires, people go and reset the targets. Fee is $5
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You can actually load your magazines to full capacity which is good.you can also load 10 instead of 5 :geekdanc:
targets start at 50 yards though so its a little discouraging for new shooters.
You can? Didn't know that. Learn something new everyday. :thumbsup:
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Targets can be placed out to 200 yards. That club specifically was formed around longer range handgun shooting.
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You can actually load your magazines to full capacity which is good. Targets start at 50 yards and go to 100. Some targets can be knocked down and theres a large plate there too. During ceasefires, people go and reset the targets. Fee is $5
Dam, i've been doing 5 rounds for a while.
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cool I was told 5 rounds only and 10 rounds for rim fire.
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So, being the new pistol shooter that i am, i dont have a pistol frame, so i was thinking of going to the silhouette side, but i've never been there, obviously.
how does it work? what are the rules? same as pistol side, or different?
not much rules
simple: just shoot at those metal targets and lil oompa loompas will run out and reset them for you.
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Targets can be placed out to 200 yards. That club specifically was formed around longer range handgun shooting.
Turkeys!!!
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cool I was told 5 rounds only and 10 rounds for rim fire.
While you can load up 10 for handguns, I rarely load up more than 3-5 at the silhouette side, especially nowadays where I don't want to burn through my ammo that quickly.
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not much rules
simple: just shoot at those metal targets and lil oompa loompas will run out and reset them for you.
1. When you are teaching your gf how to shoot that new handcannon you bought, make sure she isn't placing her hand by the forcing cone.
2. When you are teaching your gf how to shoot that new semi-auto, make sure she has a proper grip so she doesn't train-track herself.
3. When you are talking to your buddy (both of you are trying out your first new pistol), don't turn around and point the muzzle at the guy next to you.
4. Kick the Brass Vulture in the berries when he swoops in on your spent casings.
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All caliber handgun and .22 caliber rifles only! Open only Sat & Sun....8am-4pm
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Turkeys!!!
Chickens at 50 yards
Javelina (pigs) at yards
Turkeys are 150 yards
Rams at 200 yards
Handguns(canons) only since it is only 200 yards . Cartridges must have enough power to knock the 30lb Ram of the stand at 200 yards.
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Didn't know there was a ram at 200yrds! Next time I'm gonna look!
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Didn't know there was a ram at 200yrds! Next time I'm gonna look!
It takes a while to get out there and back. Talk to the RO's to see if you can set that one up. They keep it knocked down during the week due to people shooting it with rifles and punching holes through it.
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It takes a while to get out there and back. Talk to the RO's to see if you can set that one up. They keep it knocked down during the week due to people shooting it with rifles and punching holes through it.
I'm sure now that it was mentioned in this post, someone is gonna ask to set it up! Awesome!
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I'm sure now that it was mentioned in this post, someone is gonna ask to set it up! Awesome!
I recommend sending the fastest runner out there. Don't get too nervous when you hear the whizz of bullets from the rifle side while setting up the Ram.
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I recommend sending the fastest runner out there. Don't get too nervous when you hear the whizz of bullets from the rifle side while setting up the Ram.
.........and make sure your friend stands by the RSO. I've been there when the range has nearly gone hot when someone is still out there.
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.........and make sure your friend stands by the RSO. I've been there when the range has nearly gone hot when someone is still out there.
Make them wear blaze orange jacket when they go up there!
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I know rimfire rifles(.22lr) are allowed, but...
What are the rules for SMG type rifles? I.e. MP5's,USC's, Kriss...etc?
Are they allowed and up to what caliber?
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nope unless they are 22lr, i am assuming you have a legal SMG type rifle with a 16" barrel. no pistol caliber rifles allowed
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Pistol caliber rifles are not allowed.
Rifle caliber pistols are allowed.
Eye protection must be worn by everyone. If you get a chance to look on the roof, you will know why.
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Easiest thing to do is pay your $5.00. Shoot down all the little targets, and then during the break go to the bathroom or sit back and relax while all the other people setup the targets!
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Easiest thing to do is pay your $5.00. Shoot down all the little targets, and then during the break go to the bathroom or sit back and relax while all the other people setup the targets!
Troublemaker >:D
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I have to giggle at the various folks who didn't realize you could load 10 rounds. The rules are posted on a giant green plastic sign right next to the range office. Maybe it's just me, but I always look for the posted rules at a range, and I look to see if they've changed since the last time I was there.
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Sorry off topic threadjack
but how did the 5 round rule come about(on the other side)?
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Sorry off topic threadjack
but how did the 5 round rule come about(on the other side)?
For saftey reasons because its a free public range. Just like the rule where u can't have any targets that resemble a human silhouette figure because its a public range,that's what I was told by the range officer.
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The five-round deal also ensures you haven't just racked a 30-round magazine as a cease fire is called. Nobody likes to hear "cease fire" just as they clicked off the safety! You KNOW everybody else is watching you!!
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Thanks gentleman
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The five-round deal also ensures you haven't just racked a 30-round magazine as a cease fire is called. Nobody likes to hear "cease fire" just as they clicked off the safety! You KNOW everybody else is watching you!!
For saftey reasons because its a free public range. Just like the rule where u can't have any targets that resemble a human silhouette figure because its a public range,that's what I was told by the range officer.
Sorry, but I dont understand how loading only 5 rounds does anything for safety. And if you just loaded a full mag, just take it out and put it down. You could also just keep one in the chamber and then load a mag so youll have 6 lol
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I feel strange reposting my reposts to questions that were posted by others repeatedly.
Safety is a major concern in most activities. The reductions of negligent and possibly fatal discharges can be mitigated by limiting the magazine capacity. Bumpfire/slamfire does happen. Not everyone keeps the finger off the trigger till ready to fire. People do not always know that the firearm is unloaded.
Take some time to study the roof, benches and baffles at Koko Head. You may notice a bunch of holes that were not made by large caliber termites. Some were actually weapons malfunctions. Some were people trying to shoot as fast as they could and fell backward. Some were just plain bad gun handling skills.
5 rounds per mag for the public side of Kokohead as a general range rule is OK by me. Higher round count at the silhouette and action bays are acceptable if they shoot safely.
Quote from: Teichi on March 06, 2013, 07:03:34 AM
My repost.....
"Per NRA and CMP rules, rapidfire is 5 rounds in 10 seconds at the 25 yardline shooting one-handed for Bullseye Pistol.
For High Power Rifle, it is 10 rounds (2 magazines loaded with 2/8 or 5/5), sitting position, iron sights, 200yards, 60 seconds. At 300yards you get 70 seconds in the prone position.
Much of Koko Head rules were modeled from NRA and CMP style shooting"
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Easiest thing to do is pay your $5.00. Shoot down all the little targets, and then during the break go to the bathroom or sit back and relax while all the other people setup the targets!
thats what I do! by the time I get back the targets are back up ready for me to shoot. Awesome service for $5.
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damn, good thing i asked, bunch of people didnt know you could go ten rounds!
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Sorry, but I dont understand how loading only 5 rounds does anything for safety. And if you just loaded a full mag, just take it out and put it down. You could also just keep one in the chamber and then load a mag so youll have 6 lol
The range commands at cease fire are to complete your firing, not to eject your magazine and your chambered round. I understand it's 6 in one, half dozen in another, but the range sets the rules, and the RO's give the commands.
I've done a ton of research on why certain ranges set their rules the way they do.
(1) The consensus of most sources I found as to setting an arbitrary maximum number of rounds loaded in the gun is .... it's the range's rule! It is what it is, and that's the game you have to play.
(2) As for emptying the magazine & chamber by firing the ammo vice removing a loaded magazine and manually clearing the last round in the chamber, the consensus is: at some point, there was an ND (negligent discharge) by some untrained or careless shooter. So, the range came up with a lowest-common-denominator rule: it's safer to clear a gun with no live rounds remaining in it.
I'm not arguing for the rules in either case. That just happens to be what I've been able to dig up on the question "WHY?"
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Sorry, but I dont understand how loading only 5 rounds does anything for safety. And if you just loaded a full mag, just take it out and put it down. You could also just keep one in the chamber and then load a mag so youll have 6 lol
How the rule came about, I don't know.
For safety, I can tell you I've personally seen rifles down here with trigger/sear issues. Double, triple fires.......essentially burst fire. Intermittent too, so completely unpredictable. Can you imagine what would happen if you weren't expecting it?
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I have to giggle at the various folks who didn't realize you could load 10 rounds. The rules are posted on a giant green plastic sign right next to the range office. Maybe it's just me, but I always look for the posted rules at a range, and I look to see if they've changed since the last time I was there.
I have to look for that sign, the RO told me only 5 rounds max for rifle and handgun, rim fire 10 rounds.
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I have to giggle at the various folks who didn't realize you could load 10 rounds. The rules are posted on a giant green plastic sign right next to the range office. Maybe it's just me, but I always look for the posted rules at a range, and I look to see if they've changed since the last time I was there.
I'm not sure if grown men who giggle are allowed to own firearms! >:D
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Do they allow .22 WMR also ?
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So, being the new pistol shooter that i am, i dont have a pistol frame, so i was thinking of going to the silhouette side, but i've never been there, obviously.
how does it work? what are the rules? same as pistol side, or different?
what should i be practicing there?
Thanks in advance.
you really should build a frame. It's less then 2 dollars in wood from home depot or lowes and they cut it to size for you if you bring them the dimensions. a few screws later and you'll have your very own target. that being said, if you wanna shoot silhouette, why not shoot on the silhouette side. its a hell of a lot cheaper then buying your own silhouettes to shoot. that and you can't set them up on the pistol side.
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I have always gotten there when it first opened so I never had to wait in line before. How does their waiting list system work? Or do they even have one?
I don't ever remember hearing them call out names of who is next. After someone is done shooting, and there are a bunch of people waiting to shoot, it seems like someone just walks up to the line to shoot. Do the people waiting just know who came before them?
Oh, and are we allowed to bring our own reactive targets?
Thanks for any info.