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General Topics => General Discussion => Topic started by: CSaladino on May 29, 2013, 01:57:39 PM
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Home burglary in Ewa! Gun safe broken into thieves get away with 30 guns!
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i was thinking it must be someone that knows the owners
they knew there was a safe with lots of guns and they knew they had the time to break into it
Home burglary in Ewa! Gun safe broken into thieves get away with 30 guns!
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Hope he had insurance.
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Live that side will keep an eye out for monkeys trying to sell guns.
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Home burglary in Ewa! Gun safe broken into thieves get away with 30 guns!
Where did you hear that or do you know the victim?
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Friend posted a house being investigated due to a robbery in ocean pointe. Thing in ewa beach people know people. It doesn't take long to find out who did the crime.
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Thank goodness we have mandatory firearms registration here! 5-0 will solve this caper in a couple of days!!
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Hope he had insurance.
Firearms not insured unless you report to insurance and have them appraise... at least that how it is with my insurance company... something like firearms, jewelry, collecitbles/art - all need to be itemized and appraised so they can raise your premiums accordingly! I guess you should check with your carrier to make sure... or get a really good safe and alam
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Friend posted a house being investigated due to a robbery in ocean pointe. Thing in ewa beach people know people. It doesn't take long to find out who did the crime.
Jeez...would have thought 30 guns being ripped off would have made the local news at least. Do you know if they belonged to a law abiding gun owner or if it was criminals ripping off each other?
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Thank goodness we have mandatory firearms registration here! 5-0 will solve this caper in a couple of days!!
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:rofl: :rofl: :shake:I'm holding my breath. .. am I blue yet
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Must've been a cheap gun safe that it was so easily broken into. I don't understand how you can spend the money on 30 guns, but not invest at least a decent amount into a safe that will protect that investment. It's like buying a $20K Rolex and putting it in shoebox with duct tape.
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Had some guy over here soliciting for frozen steaks yesterday and always in the back of my mind they could be casing houses.
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Khon 2 news at 10 last night
Where did you hear that or do you know the victim?
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Must've been a cheap gun safe that it was so easily broken into. I don't understand how you can spend the money on 30 guns, but not invest at least a decent amount into a safe that will protect that investment. It's like buying a $20K Rolex and putting it in shoebox with duct tape.
No safe is capable of holding up to someone with the know how and the right tools. Most gun safes I have seen could easily be broken into with the right tool. Plus it depends how you locate the safe. The door is probably the most heavily fortified. I'd go in the back or one of the sides or top...If it is permanently built into the house or better yet sunken into a concrete foundation.. much harder to break into ;)
I never understood those hand carry type safe's For fire yes.. but why the lock. If I was a thief i'd be pretty stoked you took the time to put all the good stuff in one convenient location!
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Thank goodness we have mandatory firearms registration here! 5-0 will solve this caper in a couple of days!!
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Good one! you really made my afternoon
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Shit 30 guns. Hope insurance covers that, at $500-1500 each thats $15k - $45 if not more. Gotta be someone knew that they had that many and came with a car. Kinda hard to carry 30 guns and run down the street.
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Wow that sucks.
Maybe if you have that many guns, it's not a good thing to put it all in one place.
Got to spread it out a bit. If any of you have too many guns in your home, I can hold some for you for safe keeping. :)
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USAA is really good about personal property insurance. They don't need to appraise them. You can manage it all online. They do need the make model and SN but the deductible for my policy is $100. I have other things like my wife's wedding ring, camera, etc. Their regular renter's insurance only covers up to $2000 in guns. So if you have more than $2k (like say 30 guns would be) it'd be wise to add them to a personal policy. Huge bummer for whoever had this happen to them. Also for about $200 you can get a four camera IR system that records to a 500gb DVR. Multiple layers of protection/deterrence is the safest bet IMO.
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No safe is capable of holding up to someone with the know how and the right tools. Most gun safes I have seen could easily be broken into with the right tool. Plus it depends how you locate the safe. The door is probably the most heavily fortified. I'd go in the back or one of the sides or top...If it is permanently built into the house or better yet sunken into a concrete foundation.. much harder to break into ;)
I never understood those hand carry type safe's For fire yes.. but why the lock. If I was a thief i'd be pretty stoked you took the time to put all the good stuff in one convenient location!
Most of the gun "safes" folks buy are not "safes" at all, but rather Residential Security Cabinets (RSCs) and almost none are burglary rated. That being said, even some of the best safes only come with a burglary rating of 15-30 minutes, which means the safe can't be breached with hand tools for 15/30 minutes.
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If you have many guns and a safe or two, you should also have a fire and burglar alarm system with a monitoring service. Insurance is a must, but preventing the theft of firearms is vital. Stolen weapons in the hands of criminals have societal costs well above the personal financial loss.
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I can't find a trace of this story anywhere...probably not looking in the right places. Can someone post a link on this story. I looked at KHON and I couldn't find it. Curious to know what was actually reported.
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Me neither bunker. What gives? Even the HPD crime stats don't show it. WTF?
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I live in ewa beach too, and there's been some sketchy stuff going on lately.
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Long, but a must watch...
GUN SAFES "THE TRUTH" weaponseducation (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltK-bDbADa8#ws)
With "cheap" cordless drills, saws, etc. running at 20V, that's serious portable power.
It sounds like this job was not some random act; the perps knew what they were going after.
No one preps for going after this many firearms by chance.
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inside job!!!! or probably he made like it was stolen and buried it for preparation of martial law. or judgment day.
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I've heard it suggested that where possible, one should separate critical parts like bolts and slides and stuff and store them elsewhere. Kinda awkward for HD guns, though.
It kind of struck me while reading this thread that perhaps restrictive gun laws have made guns more valuable and theft-worthy.
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It kind of struck me while reading this thread that perhaps restrictive gun laws have made guns more valuable and theft-worthy.
Yup. Though gun crime is pretty low here anyway.
I recall reading in preamble to the original BS gun buyback law this year that some huge number of firearm thefts in Hawaii were unresolved. Its a big problem...
I'm guessing that if we didn't have registration that a lot fewer guns would be either stolen or "stolen."
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I can't find a trace of this story anywhere...probably not looking in the right places. Can someone post a link on this story. I looked at KHON and I couldn't find it. Curious to know what was actually reported.
i can confirm ive seen this story earlier this afternoon. cant find a link right now but i came across this article while looking for updates to the whole sandy beach stray bullet incident.
im 90% sure it was kitv4s website.
anyway it claimed they also made off with other things downstairs besides the guns and it was like the 5th or 6th robbery in their little cul de sac looking community in recent months. at first i thought he just was staging the robbery like some of you lol.
strange how i cant find anything now, not even in my browser history. why do hawaii news stories disappear? this definitely isnt the first time i told someone about a story only to not have a trace of it hours later.
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Next time capture the article in html from the "save page as" options under "FILE."
I've documented a couple of important/controversial things this way, but I'm not sure how it works in Win7. Works fine in Win 2000 and Win XP.
Or, more simply, just "select all" and capture it as plain text. You can then edit out all the adverts and headers and whatnot.
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Something else I do is hit the Print screen key and then go into paint and then click paste. Easiest way to take a screen shot of whatever you're looking. You can then save it as a jpeg or whatever after you've cropped out the edges.
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Something else I do is hit the Print screen key and then go into paint and then click paste. Easiest way to take a screen shot of whatever you're looking. You can then save it as a jpeg or whatever after you've cropped out the edges.
Apple users, press Command-Shift-3 or Command-Shift-4 simultaneously. The first takes a screenshot of your entire screen and, and the second lets you crop what you want from your screen and they save as a .png file.
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Or.... get evernote and evernote web clipper. It will save the page.,.. the pictures... the link and everything
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Or.... get evernote and evernote web clipper. It will save the page.,.. the pictures... the link and everything
+1. Great web research note keeping tool, among other things. Has mobile app versions, too, that all sync via free (or larger paid) online storage space. Can also store things locally if you don't want your web clips out there for spies to see... 8)
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USAA is really good about personal property insurance. They don't need to appraise them. You can manage it all online. They do need the make model and SN but the deductible for my policy is $100. I have other things like my wife's wedding ring, camera, etc. Their regular renter's insurance only covers up to $2000 in guns. So if you have more than $2k (like say 30 guns would be) it'd be wise to add them to a personal policy. Huge bummer for whoever had this happen to them. Also for about $200 you can get a four camera IR system that records to a 500gb DVR. Multiple layers of protection/deterrence is the safest bet IMO.
USAA is terrible to deal with once you make a claim though. Ive been fighting them over 8 months to compensate me for water damage in my town house. Credit card is maxed because of it, and its looking like Im going to have to eat it because the repair company didn't make a itemized list of repair parts to fix the bathroom/floor/tub/etc. USAA is trying their hardest to compensate me only for the amount of my deductible.
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Remember this always:
Insurance companies are not in the business of paying claims. They are in the business of collecting premiums.
Whenever you deal with a claim make sure you are well armed with facts and figures --blue book values, this, that, ads of comparables, etc.
It also pays to carry your attorney's card with you.
This paid off once when the city was digging up something on a major thoroughfare half a block north of me, fouled up, and flooded the basement of my apartment with sewage, ruining a bunch of clothes. books, and other (honestly) valuable stuff.
The city wasted no time in getting its adjusters out there. I had a pile of my ruined stuff in the front yard. So did all the other apartment dwellers. The guy tried to offer me a pittance and the numbers he was throwing at us individually were lo-ball. After pushing back and forth on the number for my stuff, I finally reached in my wallet and handed him my lawyer's card, said, "Here, talk to him," and walked away.
"No, wait, there's no need to bring lawyers into this," he said, and came up to within a hundred bucks of what I was demanding. (I guess it was so he could tell his boss, "I talked him into taking a hundred bucks less.")
Heh. Yup. He was right. There was no need for a lawyer.
Just the lawyer's card.
Terry, 230RN
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30 firearms for sale.
Cash only, no questions asked.
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30 firearms for sale.
Cash only, no questions asked.
I got $9,000 cash money ... hundred dollar bills ... LMK!
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This thread raised a whole bunch of questions in my mind:
1. Has this burglary been confirmed, and any updates regarding the stolen firearms? If true, then 30 firearms are now in the possession of burglar(s). I have never seen anything but others have said they did see a story on the local news, so I can't comment on something I really didn't see firsthand.
2. If the burglary has been confirmed, whaddaya guys think about posting pictures of your firearms, for forum members (and non-forum members) to view? It is pretty easy to get a person's address from the internet. I thought about this even prior to this. Maybe at a minimum pics should be in a area that people at least have to be a member to view or just use attachments to minimize unwanted viewers...idk. This and the visible serial number concern kinda go hand in hand.
3. Have you guys seen significant increases in your Homeowner's/Renter's insurance policies due to your firearms? Homeowners....No.
4. How do you keep records of your firearms, for insurance purposes? Good records....both electronically and hard copy, with back-ups.
5. (Kind of unrelated) If you are a registered firearm owner, is this information automatically made known to HPD officers during things like routine traffic stops when they run your plates/HDL? I don't think this would be the case (C&C Dept. of Motor Vehicles handles plates and licenses, and as far as I know, they are not tied into the HPD Firearms Registration office), but some dude I was talking to swears up and down that HPD has this info when performing traffic stops. I don't think so but I don't know for sure.
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inside job!!!! or probably he made like it was stolen and buried it for preparation of martial law. or judgment day.
^^^what I was thinking too. Only I was thinking they're probably not buried, they're probably back in his house in a new cherry safe and now they are no longer registered...the way it should be! :geekdanc:
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