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Title: Poll: STOP NRA
Post by: Old Guy on June 09, 2013, 12:23:21 AM
A poll to Stop the NRA

http://www.stopnra.org/ (http://www.stopnra.org/)

66% For the NRA
Title: Re: Poll: STOP NRA
Post by: hnl.flyboy on June 09, 2013, 12:40:17 AM
Voted!! Thank you!

2aH brothers, FIRE MISSION!
Title: Re: Poll: STOP NRA
Post by: Heavies on June 09, 2013, 03:47:22 AM
Weird poll,  voted in it though.  :thumbsup: :shaka:
Title: Re: Poll: STOP NRA
Post by: clshade on June 09, 2013, 06:49:27 AM
:snort: Voted. It was at 66.9%

(I paraphrase)

"STOP one of the only lobbying voices directly supported by the American People themselves!"

This whole "gun lobby" tactic irritates the hell out of me. The NRA has the power it does because, for the most part, it ACTUALLY represents the views a helluva lotta Americans. Congress knows this. They are well aware that we are buying up every AR, AK and every last round of 7.62, 5.56, 9mm and 22lr. The anti-gunners are correct in that the gun industry also supports the NRA and they are making a good living at the moment.... but that isn't why the "gun lobby" has the power that it does.

The "gun lobby" has that power because regardless of what politicians, the Supreme Court and gun ignorant peace activists think, WE believe that the 2nd Amendment means we have the right to (oddly enough) keep and bear arms. And we overwhelmingly vote with our dollars every time there is a whiff of a challenge to our (already much infringed) ability to do so.
Title: Re: Poll: STOP NRA
Post by: 808shooter on June 09, 2013, 06:54:02 AM
Voted
Title: Re: Poll: STOP NRA
Post by: macsak on June 09, 2013, 07:55:42 AM
in

let's hope they don't do what costco did in their poll and disregard the results because the poll received attention on the internet
they don't do that when the poll results are closer or if they come out the way they want them to be
any poll nowadays that is that polarizing gets attention from both sides on the internet, so to discount it because of that is ridiculous

Voted
Title: Re: Poll: STOP NRA
Post by: BananaClip on June 09, 2013, 09:35:43 AM
Done....
Title: Re: Poll: STOP NRA
Post by: bass monkey on June 09, 2013, 10:17:49 AM
Done.
We got to beat them every opportunity possible.
No matter if its calling in, submitting testimony, writing in, or voting, we need to out number them
Title: Re: Poll: STOP NRA
Post by: mongoose on June 09, 2013, 10:25:36 AM
Done...
Title: Re: Poll: STOP NRA
Post by: clshade on June 09, 2013, 10:48:19 AM
A$$hats. They altered the poll results. They deleted about 20,000 votes from the "I agree" with the NRA from when I last looked at it. Shoulda grabbed a screen shot while I could.

So much for internet democracy.
Title: Re: Poll: STOP NRA
Post by: Jl808 on June 09, 2013, 11:01:18 AM
Re-voted. What idiots.
Title: Re: Poll: STOP NRA
Post by: macsak on June 09, 2013, 11:04:42 AM
if you click on the results link, it lists the number of votes as being 12000 more than what's counted
and on the front page it says "number of REAL votes"
so it looks like they are discounting a bunch of votes as being multiples from the same IP

A$$hats. They altered the poll results. They deleted about 20,000 votes from the "I agree" with the NRA from when I last looked at it. Shoulda grabbed a screen shot while I could.

So much for internet democracy.
Title: Re: Poll: STOP NRA
Post by: Heavies on June 09, 2013, 11:11:24 AM
Hahah so they redid the poll to show that the "disagree" have the majority.  should not be surprised.  Voting here is as useless as voting in the election.
Title: Re: Poll: STOP NRA
Post by: TastesLikeMetal on June 09, 2013, 11:25:21 AM
in

let's hope they don't do what costco did in their poll

What happened here...
Title: Re: Poll: STOP NRA
Post by: Jl808 on June 09, 2013, 11:28:01 AM
Wow what a waste of bandwidth.
Title: Re: Poll: STOP NRA
Post by: xer 21 on June 09, 2013, 11:51:21 AM
lol, the new poll results barely add up to 60%
Title: Re: Poll: STOP NRA
Post by: 230RN on June 09, 2013, 11:54:03 AM
Well, shoot, they've got to get it up to the 90% that the President wishfully thinks were the truth.

Same IP?  Huh.  Do they know that the NRA has family memberships, too?  Perhaps, just perhaps, several folks from the same household voted. 

I copied the url and re-entered it independently from the 2aHawaii site.

I also lied a little because I don't happen to agree with absolutely all the NRA policies... which I won't go into.

Terry

Title: Re: Poll: STOP NRA
Post by: macsak on June 09, 2013, 12:18:05 PM
costco had a gun control poll last year, and denied the results because of "fire missions" like what is going on in this poll caused the vote to be overwhelmingly against
the problem is, if people from the other side did the same thing, they would see it as part of the process

What happened here...
Title: Re: Poll: STOP NRA
Post by: hnl.flyboy on June 09, 2013, 01:18:14 PM
lol, the new poll results barely add up to 60%

That significantly raised my eyebrow..
Title: Re: Poll: STOP NRA
Post by: dirtylickins on June 09, 2013, 01:19:27 PM
after my vote i did the math i combined the total of the yes/no voters minused it from top amount of supposed voters and the number came out 10,999. votes missing??? do i think this poll is full of shiet?... i vote yes! i did not see an option for not sure like polls have? so whered those votes go?
Title: Re: Poll: STOP NRA
Post by: nf9648 on June 09, 2013, 05:30:19 PM
Website doesn't work for me...
Title: Re: Poll: STOP NRA
Post by: Kingkeoni on June 09, 2013, 06:12:56 PM
You do realize that most of these polls are phishing scams
Title: Re: Poll: STOP NRA
Post by: hnl.flyboy on June 09, 2013, 06:14:36 PM
You do realize that most of these polls are phishing scams

I'd have felt that way if it asked me for information.  Only information it got was my vote.
Title: Re: Poll: STOP NRA
Post by: clshade on June 09, 2013, 06:35:56 PM
Yup. The page is down.

I wonder if the "firemission" turned into a de facto DOS? :D
Title: Re: Poll: STOP NRA
Post by: 230RN on June 09, 2013, 06:50:59 PM

Do you agree that creators of poorly-worded inherently biased polls should be banned from the internet?

___ Yes

___ Maybe

Title: Re: Poll: STOP NRA
Post by: hnl.flyboy on June 09, 2013, 06:52:12 PM
Hm...the site still works for me..

Looks like even with the votes that mysteriously disappeared, YES is pulling forward yet again!  ;D
Title: Re: Poll: STOP NRA
Post by: hnl.flyboy on June 09, 2013, 06:53:25 PM
Do you agree that creators of poorly-worded inherently biased polls should be banned from the internet?

___ Yes

___ Maybe

   X   No

Regardless, we still have our right to free speech...no matter how retarded it can be.   :crazy: :shake:
Title: Re: Poll: STOP NRA
Post by: bass monkey on June 09, 2013, 06:53:51 PM
I just tried on my phone. Not working for me
Title: Re: Poll: STOP NRA
Post by: Volcano on June 09, 2013, 06:58:23 PM
Not working for me either..
Title: Re: Poll: STOP NRA
Post by: wpb129 on June 09, 2013, 07:19:45 PM
Voted.
Title: Re: Poll: STOP NRA
Post by: Volcano on June 09, 2013, 08:03:50 PM
wpb you just voted? I still cant get on the site.  When I first tried with ipad at noon it wouldnt let me select yes or no. ???
Title: Re: Poll: STOP NRA
Post by: moosed on June 09, 2013, 08:15:07 PM
It appears we've been had!  dirtylickins was onto them, too!

http://forum.pafoa.org/national-11/221677-stopnra-org-poll-rigged-proof-inside.html (http://forum.pafoa.org/national-11/221677-stopnra-org-poll-rigged-proof-inside.html)
Title: Re: Poll: STOP NRA
Post by: Gd4udog on June 09, 2013, 08:29:24 PM
Full of kukai
Title: Re: Poll: STOP NRA
Post by: SpeedTek on June 09, 2013, 09:07:55 PM
What do you expect from liberals.  They always fudge things around!!
Title: Re: Poll: STOP NRA
Post by: Aiea78 on June 09, 2013, 11:56:33 PM
"Who cares about the votes, when you count the votes"

Glad they have been busted.
Title: Re: Poll: STOP NRA
Post by: hnl.flyboy on June 10, 2013, 05:49:41 AM
And now it's down for me..
Title: Re: Poll: STOP NRA
Post by: oldfart on June 10, 2013, 06:54:55 AM
They did not ask for any name or info, but I have to wonder about what did this person or group EXPECT to happen when creating this sort of web poll?
I feel like there are 2 possibilities. Either they were extremely naive or this was some sort of bait to track IP addresses of people who responded.
As of 6:30am Monday, it looks like the web page "STOPNRA.ORG" is "down for maintenance"
Title: Re: Poll: STOP NRA
Post by: 230RN on June 10, 2013, 09:15:21 AM
"I feel like there are 2 possibilities. Either they were extremely naive or this was some sort of bait to track IP addresses of people who responded."

Judging by their having to fiddly-fart around to backtrack, I vote for naivete.

That whole thing smacked of a bunch of passionate, self-righteous, sophomoric, anti-gun zealots who have no concrete notion of reality.
Title: Poll: STOP NRA
Post by: Jl808 on June 10, 2013, 09:25:08 AM
"On 6-8-13 stopnra.org was hacked and the vote count was inaccurately displayed. Our site administrator has finally remedied the issue and has restored the correct count to before the site was breached. We apologize for any inconvenience as we realize people are very passionate about this topic.
Thanks to everyone who voted."

Poll results have been "restored":
65.5% supports the NRA
29.9% does not support the NRA

The percentage still doesn't add to 100%.

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/06/11/yzajuzeq.jpg)
Title: Re: Poll: STOP NRA
Post by: BUD on June 10, 2013, 09:25:34 AM
I was able to vote this morning.  Numbers looked like this:

Total votes:  31859

YES  20856  @ 65.5%

NO  9538 @ 29.9%

The numbers still don't add up and there is a % missing. 
Title: Re: Poll: STOP NRA
Post by: oldfart on June 10, 2013, 10:17:30 AM

That whole thing smacked of a bunch of passionate, self-righteous, sophomoric, anti-gun zealots who have no concrete notion of reality.
=====================
 :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Poll: STOP NRA
Post by: clshade on June 10, 2013, 11:51:08 AM
Hacked, eh?

Probably an inside job. :)

You can never be too careful.

It always amazes me that some folks who post polls like this think fire missions are unfair. Except that during elections that is called "getting the vote out" and is standard practice. The antis just don't have anything like "fire missions" on their side and even if they did... they'd still be in the minority.
Title: Re: Poll: STOP NRA
Post by: Volcano on June 10, 2013, 04:44:45 PM
Just voted and numbers are back up.  yes = 22,364 (67%) no =  9,546 (28.6%)  Still doesn't add up to 100% of the votes
Title: Re: Poll: STOP NRA
Post by: zippz on June 10, 2013, 09:18:39 PM
This is not going the way they expected.
Title: Re: Poll: STOP NRA
Post by: hnl.flyboy on June 11, 2013, 04:05:44 AM
It told me that I had already voted today.  Bull.  Maybe they're not accepting "Yes" votes anymore?