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General Topics => Strategies and Tactics => Topic started by: abakja1 on June 20, 2013, 01:04:24 AM
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So I almost bit the bullet so to speak to go out and buy a Ruger 10/22 takedown at SA since they had them in stock,..
Been itching to find one since last year, but the gun ban rage was at full tilt making it impossible or hard to find,..
Then I thought to myself, why should i get one since I live in Hawaii or for self defense which is the primary reason I own a firearm(s)? Hawaii isnt like other states where you can go to a secluded, heck even your backyard, to shoot or target train,...Also, even though ammo is expensive, IMO its better for me to train and target practice shooting my primary weapons with the ammo you'll use to defend yourself to best get familiar with your weapon and ammo. I do this as much as i can afford to. Also, even though 22lr ammo is cheap and light if i had to bug out, its just another caliber to buy and store which wont make sense for me in a defensive situation in my home and for which i wouldnt use. I would most likely use my 870 6 round or better yet Moss 590 9 round 12 ga and have my glock 19 9mm as my primary sidearm. If im upstairs in my bedroom, i have access to my safe which holds my Sig .45 and a .40, CZ sp-01 9mm, as well as a Colt AR 6920 for higher round situations.
Guess its really weighing the options, but i really dont think a shtf situation will occur in my lifetime to need a 22lr that my other current callibers can do at the cost of price and weight as again im bunkering down or for self defense in my home rather than head for the hills.
Whats ur opinions?
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Of course you should.
Wen the most reliable semi automatic 22 ride ever created meets a new portable, ultra useful design the results are nothing short of spectacular.
Stop thinking about it and get one.
If SHTF is a concern, I can honestly tell you this.
22lr is an extremely useful round and at the same time, highly underrated as far as a hunting round.
With proper shot placement, there's damn near nothing you can't kill in Hawaii and most other states.
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I think you should, for all the reasons KK covered. Additionally, the correct answer to the question, "Should I buy [type of gun]?" is always yes.
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Of course you should.
Wen the most reliable semi automatic 22 ride ever created meets a new portable, ultra useful design the results are nothing short of spectacular.
Stop thinking about it and get one.
If SHTF is a concern, I can honestly tell you this.
22lr is an extremely useful round and at the same time, highly underrated as far as a hunting round.
With proper shot placement, there's damn near nothing you can't kill in Hawaii and most other states.
Very true growing up with a 22lr on Molokai I've taken down a lot of deer and pigs with it . It's all about shot placement
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A take-down rifle should be included in everyone’s arsenal and the 22LR takedown is a great choice for that unassuming back pack or gear bag. Can’t go on the city bus with a gun bag or hitch a ride. I know, I know you got a car, but for insurance what if something happens like SHTF and your stuck in traffic. Not to attract too much attention, you got your gear bag/backpack and your 10/22, (Papoose, Henry AR-7, Sub2000 9m)and for $20 you got 500rds. You’re good to go.
Think of them as a CCR. Illegal but in a SHTF/WORL situation you gotta be armed without being noticed and sometimes a pistol just won’t do.
To confirm KK…
Will a .22lr Penetrate a Steel Entry Door from 200 Yards? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fo24lo_hUAA#ws)
Will a .22lr Penetrate a Steel Entry Door from 200 Yards?
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In my opinion, you can't have too many guns. 22's are economical, fun to shoot, and perfect for training new shooters.
If you like it, can afford it and have room for it in your safe(s), then buy it and more importantly, shoot it. Your opinion may change favorably towards the .22 in time and with use, but if it doesn't then you can always sell it to me (or KK). ;)
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A .22 cal/rimfire rifle is on almost every "top 10 must own firearm list".10/22 takedown is a very good choice.
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Every time I go into SA I have to avert my eyes from the 10/22 takedown.
I need another rifle like a hole in the head... but that's one ~nice~ rifle....
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I would get it just for the nifty bag.
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I guess im bitching cause money been tight lately with bills and twin 19 mos old girls,..
Hopefully SA will have them in a few weeks,...
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I guess im bitching cause money been tight lately with bills and twin 19 mos old girls,..
Hopefully SA will have them in a few weeks,...
I know,I just got a savage bsev .22lr.My bills & twin 8 month old girls had me double checking my bank before I bought it.
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Definitely worth the money. Just wish I could find some of the BX-25 mags to feed mine.
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Might be expensive -
At Cabela's
Ruger BX-25 Mag
http://www.cabelas.com/product/Ruger174-BX-258482-Magazine/1229746.uts?Ntk=AllProducts&searchPath=%2Fcatalog%2Fsearch.cmd%3Fform_state%3DsearchForm%26N%3D0%26fsch%3Dtrue%26Ntk%3DAllProducts%26Ntt%3D10%252F22%2Bmags%26x%3D13%26y%3D5%26WTz_l%3DHeader%253BSearch-All%2BProducts&Ntt=10%2F22+mags&WTz_l=Header%3BSearch-All+Products (http://www.cabelas.com/product/Ruger174-BX-258482-Magazine/1229746.uts?Ntk=AllProducts&searchPath=%2Fcatalog%2Fsearch.cmd%3Fform_state%3DsearchForm%26N%3D0%26fsch%3Dtrue%26Ntk%3DAllProducts%26Ntt%3D10%252F22%2Bmags%26x%3D13%26y%3D5%26WTz_l%3DHeader%253BSearch-All%2BProducts&Ntt=10%2F22+mags&WTz_l=Header%3BSearch-All+Products)
$32.99
+ $5.00 shipping
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Do your homework and always shop around, check promo's etc.
Check Ruger's price, then see if you can get a better deal elsewhere.
Currently @ Ruger's with shipping a 25rd mag will cost you about $40.00
Currently @ Cabela's the same mag with promo's will cost you about $18.00.
32.99 mag
+5.00sh
38.00total
-20.00 promo
18.00 final total
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Definitely worth the money. Just wish I could find some of the BX-25 mags to feed mine.
Just bought the last 2 ruger bx25 mags from OGC on monday! They have the butler creek 25 round steel lips in clear & smoke for $29
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I got two, you should get at least one. 22's are on the list of 5 must have guns by a lot of you U tubers. The 22 take down gives you the ruger reliability, the reviews show they did it right, so you can get the best that also provides another concealed dimension. Yeah, and when you buy one and register with ruger, you get a 20 or 25 percent off your order deal up to $100, so you order your high cap mags and just plink until they show up. Mine took several months, but if the excess supply of available guns is any indication, the mags should be pretty available too. Then you tube how to file down the trigger part so you have a easier to cock rifle. I also got a ruger 22 full sized with wood stock, feels heavier and more substantial, and a mossberg plinkster bolt action which is lighter, but the take down gives you a 22 with so much more.
Not to mention, less cost to practice, easier platform to get family on board, and easier to hide from the wife........
shf situation, you want a lower caliber for smaller prey, Oh, and take down ability. Ruger 22's have 25 round mags, lot others only 10.
Regarding your concerns, mine too, I daydream, envision being rushed by a huge person and imagine having time
to empty one or two 25 round mags into him, and wonder who wins.... I know my 556 would only take two to end things, but that wouldn't be as...... exciting?
my 5 cents, good ruck.
Yes
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you should buy a takedown. its like a condom, you keep it in your pocket, but! you never use it.... think of it as a just in case insurance protection...
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How come? ;D
how come? because you only use a condom on a ratchet bitch, unless you looking for stragglers! another reason you put on a jimmy hat.... how can you tell you have a ratchet women? when your about to rounding off to home run and you spread those legs, and it smells like a creature that crawled or swam in the vagi and died, you know its ratchet. I highly advise you to seek another target, but if your in heat and cant pass it up! the jimmy hat comes into play! your insurance/condom kicks in to high gear.... IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN :rofl:
NEW GUY if you need more explaining. lmk thanks... :shaka:
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There is the 22LR survival rifle - not same as 10/22 takedown.
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http://henryrepeating.com/rifle-survival-ar7.cfm
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The 10/22 has better after market mags.
I have problems with ALL of my mags for my AR-7. I have 4 mags. It jams while just loading, then FTF.
On the bright side, the AR-7 is the most compact, it floats on water and the mags 3 fit in the butt so you carrying 4, and it is very light.
BTW, the front orange sight was also a little bent, check that when buying, I did not notice until I was at the range.
Still it is the rifle that I use the most, trying to break it in, and the mags.
Will be used strictly as a BO gun.
My 10/22 (not take down) is designated as a secondary HD because of 25rd and dual mag capacity and reliability.
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Good to know.
Are the sights replaceable/fixable/customizable?
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Replacable about $6 before shipping.
The sights lean to one side a bit, so I try to compensate. I tried to bend it back with pliers but didn't work. I read somewhere else a person was having the same problem, might be a common occurrence.
Bought my mags from here.
Henry AR-7 not available at the moment but have for earlier models. Sights are available.
http://ar-7.com/ (http://ar-7.com/)
AR-7 Customized Accessories, LLC
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Note to self: sit next to ACADEMI at the next 2aHawaii Pau Hana. ;D
hahaha, yup I hope the next Pau Hana is somewhere with stampeding women! :rofl:
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Just do it! Why are you even thinking about? You can always sell it later...
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My trigger finger is still itching to get the Ruger 10/22 TD. Still waiting on it's availability and priced right for me to buy. Hopefully the LGS or private seller not jacking up the price either. One day :(
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My trigger finger is still itching to get the Ruger 10/22 TD. Still waiting on it's availability and priced right for me to buy. Hopefully the LGS or private seller not jacking up the price either. One day :(
at the gun show this weekend, Xring will have some tricked out models on display to give you ideas
And they should have some takedowns too
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Despite my previous comments, I can't pass up a good deal and I just bought a used 10/22 TD. I can now go to the range and evaluate both the TD and the folding stock 10/22 side by side.
I might be persuaded to part with it at the gun show....
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My trigger finger is still itching to get the Ruger 10/22 TD. Still waiting on it's availability and priced right for me to buy. Hopefully the LGS or private seller not jacking up the price either. One day :(
redryderbb I tried to throw you a bone in this thread http://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=11106.msg109300#msg109300 (http://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=11106.msg109300#msg109300) but I guess you did not see it maybe I should have quoted you to help get your attention. On the 24th of Sep. you said you missed two at Ward SA on the 26th I posted that Kapolei had one. Oh well...
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redryderbb I tried to throw you a bone in this thread http://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=11106.msg109300#msg109300 (http://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=11106.msg109300#msg109300) but I guess you did not see it maybe I should have quoted you to help get your attention. On the 24th of Sep. you said you missed two at Ward SA on the 26th I posted that Kapolei had one. Oh well...
Thanks for looking out dustoff003! I missed your post on that thread. I'll keep checking SA on the island and even check out the Gun Show coming up. :shaka:
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Get the takedown! They're great rifles? They store well, they're accurate, nd easy to throw in your backpack for a hike or camping.
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Oh, and if you're ever in Hilo, send me a message. I sell the bx-25s for $27
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unless your poor, why the hell not buy one?
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unless your poor, why the hell not buy one?
Learn to spell.
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If it came down to it and we had to survive. Shooting mongoose, birds, etc. It would have better aftermath results with my .22lr takedown than my .338 lapua.
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You're gonna eat mongoose? Ewwww.
For game birds, maybe a shotgun?
I think that feral pig would make a better meal.
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You're gonna eat mongoose? Ewwww.
For game birds, maybe a shotgun?
I think that feral pig would make a better meal.
That is assuming you find a pig. In a natural disaster or zombie appocalypse you will eat anything that moves. What will be the best overall gun to hunt in Hawaii?
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For game mammals, 22LR is not allowed unless you are hunting with dogs. The dogs will have to hold down the game while the hunter delivers a fatal point blank shot using a 22LR. Without dogs, you'll need to hunt with a 223 minimum rifle caliber according to DLNR.
It's even bigger for pistol caliber. The ammo cartridge has to be at least 2" long meaning it will have to be .38 special, .357 magnum or larger.
I don't think you are allowed to shoot mongoose at all since it is not a game animal. I think it should be though as they are pests, but it's not what the law says.
You'll need a shotgun for birds.
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I don't think anyone is going to follow the law in a huge disaster or appocalypse. This is for pure survival in Hawaii. well that's what i would use if i had to go out to hunt with if i had only one gun to bring. my 308 would be nice but small game would be blown up and nothing left to eat. a 10/22 is pretty quiet too so not to attract so much attention. i dont see many flying birds so i'll just shoot the ones walking around like those storks or damn pidgeons and myna birds so no need shotgun. the ducks are friendly so just grabum by the neck. lol
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Point taken. But if SHTF for real, then God help us all! I'm not sure a 22LR would be my first choice.
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I was thinking a UTS-15 would also be great for SHTF. Yes it's a shotgun which I said before would not be good but this one is kinda hybrid. One side you have birdshot and the other side loaded with slugs. Not so great for really long distance but overall you can defend yourself from others while trying to hunt which a flip of a switch. You can still hunt small and big game.
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Yeah! I looking at the 10/22 takedown at SA too!! only $350.