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Tools and Uses => Firearms and Accessories => Topic started by: HUCKLEBUCK on June 26, 2013, 11:47:27 PM

Title: AR10 and M4 & CLP; LSA?
Post by: HUCKLEBUCK on June 26, 2013, 11:47:27 PM
I think I must be losing it cause i can't for the life of me find LSA!

Armalite suggests a number of cleaners/solvents, lubricants, and preservatives/Protectants for their ARs and I can not find LSA anywhere.

I can find milspec documents and other info about LSA but its all informative.....there's nothing about procuring it.....unless I'm going nuts. Here's a rundown of info I found:

Its known as

Light LSA -" lubricant semifluid (automatic weapons)"

Aka "lubricant small arms"

Aka "lubricating oil, semi fluid" - (current mil nomenclature)

Aka "LSA weapons oil medium"

On 2/25/1987 the DOD forewent LSA for CLP (with teflon - but no Teflon after 1998)

LSA was then reactivated as milspec after 9/15/2011 and is still milspec for all weaponry for all depts and agencies of the DOD

It's milspec code is MIL-L-46000C

Its NATO code number is 0-158 (6.7)

But where can I buy it!!??  Anyone know?
Armalite indicates it is commercially available and likely via more than one vendor.....but I can't find it anywhere.

I figured I'd share armalights list of suggested products for C, L, and P.....as they state it

CLEANERS
wipeout foam bore cleaner (for copper),
slip 2000 carbon killer (for carbon)
Lewis lead remover (for heavy bore leading)
Pro-shot lead-clean lead remover cloth (for lighter bore leading)

LUBRICANTS
TW-25B
Tetra gun grease
Ultimate oil and grease
Light LSA

PRESERVATIVES
corrosion X
Eazox
TW-25B
Maxx

COMBINATION CLPs
Break free CLP (no Teflon)

So where can't I get LSA?
Title: Re: AR10 and M4 & CLP; LSA?
Post by: bozo on June 28, 2013, 07:18:27 PM
I have a bottle of LSA. It's yours if you want it.
Title: Re: AR10 and M4 & CLP; LSA?
Post by: ren on June 28, 2013, 07:47:26 PM
It's a generic term.
You can use a light motor oil, in fact, Google Ed's Red for cleaning.
I've been using ATF on BCGs and grease on the buffer spring.
Title: >:D
Post by: Q on June 28, 2013, 08:45:29 PM
 >:D
Title: Re: AR10 and M4 & CLP; LSA?
Post by: HUCKLEBUCK on June 28, 2013, 09:53:17 PM

It's a generic term.
You can use a light motor oil, in fact, Google Ed's Red for cleaning.
I've been using ATF on BCGs and grease on the buffer spring.
i thought it might be a generic term but there is a milspec and NATO code for a specific formulation for specific requirements. So turns out there is an actual product out there with a few different designations like I listed, but I can't find anything under any name. What kind grease on the buffer spring?
Title: Re: AR10 and M4 & CLP; LSA?
Post by: HUCKLEBUCK on June 28, 2013, 09:54:30 PM

I have a bottle of LSA. It's yours if you want it.
actual LSA? The brown mil issued bottle?
Title: Re: AR10 and M4 & CLP; LSA?
Post by: HUCKLEBUCK on June 28, 2013, 09:58:38 PM

It's a generic term.
You can use a light motor oil, in fact, Google Ed's Red for cleaning.
I've been using ATF on BCGs and grease on the buffer spring.

http://www.surplustodayonline.com/2012/10/23/lsa-still-a-great-gun-oil/
Title: Re: AR10 and M4 & CLP; LSA?
Post by: bozo on June 28, 2013, 10:11:59 PM
actual LSA? The brown mil issued bottle?

It's in the green bottle. It is mil issued.  Label shows LSA
Title: Re: AR10 and M4 & CLP; LSA?
Post by: HUCKLEBUCK on June 28, 2013, 10:15:44 PM
Green....just posted the link I got my info from.
Anyway, you wanna mail it to the big island (:D
Title: Re: AR10 and M4 & CLP; LSA?
Post by: bozo on June 28, 2013, 10:21:43 PM
(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh573/regular_guy74d/th_37cfd6ab1bd1c58f65da58c8af82f3ce_zpsbadc643d.jpg) (http://s1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh573/regular_guy74d/?action=view&current=37cfd6ab1bd1c58f65da58c8af82f3ce_zpsbadc643d.jpg)

I also have I believe is a gallon can of LSA.
Title: Re: AR10 and M4 & CLP; LSA?
Post by: bozo on June 28, 2013, 10:26:05 PM
Green....just posted the link I got my info from.
Anyway, you wanna mail it to the big island (:D

I can mail it if you pay the shipping.
Title: Re: AR10 and M4 & CLP; LSA?
Post by: HUCKLEBUCK on June 28, 2013, 10:30:13 PM
Thanks man.  I'll let u know.
Title: Re: AR10 and M4 & CLP; LSA?
Post by: HUCKLEBUCK on June 28, 2013, 10:34:03 PM

http://www.surplustodayonline.com/2012/10/23/lsa-still-a-great-gun-oil/
btw....ATF? Isnt that real loose? Dont it splatter around when u fire and then dry up real fast?