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General Topics => Legal and Activism => Topic started by: Vladimir on December 14, 2010, 07:40:54 PM

Title: Townhall meeting
Post by: Vladimir on December 14, 2010, 07:40:54 PM
The Maui Police Dept is holding it's yearly townhall meetings with the community to address issues and concerns. I plan on attending the one in my area scheduled for Jan 5th and bringing up the subject of CCW. Granted I get a day off of work but if I do go I'll post the reply from the Chief of Police as well as an comments or reactions from others in the crowd.

As mentioned in the other thread, I did get my application for the permit and have had help from Alex here on this forum on creating a letter, but I'm wondering if I should submit it before or after the townhall meeting.
Title: Re: Townhall meeting
Post by: 2asupport on December 14, 2010, 08:33:17 PM

bring a recorder with you.
Title: Re: Townhall meeting
Post by: Vladimir on December 14, 2010, 09:13:44 PM
I'll see if I can.
Title: Re: Townhall meeting
Post by: 2asupport on December 14, 2010, 09:24:22 PM
before,  then you can ask him why he denied you and what you need to prove in order to obtain a ccw.
Title: Re: Townhall meeting
Post by: Vladimir on December 14, 2010, 09:35:46 PM
Someone correct me if I'm wrong but usually the letter of denial appears about 4weeks after you submit the application? Even if I turn it in tomorrow, the letter of denial won't be in my hands prior to the meeting I believe.
Title: Re: Townhall meeting
Post by: 2asupport on December 14, 2010, 10:05:45 PM
but you should get a yes/no answer within 2 weeks right?   idk....
Title: Re: Townhall meeting
Post by: Old Guy on December 14, 2010, 10:08:59 PM
Ask Olelo, local community TV if they will record and broadcast it?
Title: Re: Townhall meeting
Post by: Vladimir on December 14, 2010, 10:36:13 PM
I'll double check, usually akaku is around for local maui events.
Title: Re: Townhall meeting
Post by: Funtimes on December 14, 2010, 10:52:00 PM
If you can record it and send it to me, I will make sure it's up on the internet and site.
Title: Re: Townhall meeting
Post by: Vladimir on December 14, 2010, 11:07:52 PM
I'll really try to attend but in case I can't (I work in retail and mostly night shifts plus Dec/Jan are blackout months) are there any other Maui members here who might be able to go and address this.
Title: Re: Townhall meeting
Post by: 2asupport on December 16, 2010, 12:46:52 PM
What time and where?  I wont know my schedule till the week before.
Title: Re: Townhall meeting
Post by: Alex Europa on December 16, 2010, 04:45:57 PM
Most likely, you won't get your denial letter before the meeting. In Honolulu, it seems to be running about 4 weeks (even though they tell you 2 weeks at the window). Maui could certainly run faster or slower.

I don't really think it matters one way or the other whether you apply now or after the meeting. It would be interesting to see you get the response back and bring it up at the meeting, so it's probably worth a shot to apply now.

- Alex
Title: Re: Townhall meeting
Post by: Vladimir on December 18, 2010, 10:51:46 PM
What time and where?  I wont know my schedule till the week before.

The one I'm planning to attend is on Jan 5th at the Wailuku Community Center, I believe 6 to 8pm. Most of the earlier meetings back in Nov were in Hana, Upcountry and Kihei so I couldn't make the drive at the time.
Title: Re: Townhall meeting
Post by: 2asupport on December 19, 2010, 09:22:56 PM
What time and where?  I wont know my schedule till the week before.

The one I'm planning to attend is on Jan 5th at the Wailuku Community Center, I believe 6 to 8pm. Most of the earlier meetings back in Nov were in Hana, Upcountry and Kihei so I couldn't make the drive at the time.




yeah,  last one i heard about was in Hana.  was gonna have to x the idea if that was the case.  is V.I.S.S still operating?  cant find their website.
Title: Re: Townhall meeting
Post by: Vladimir on December 27, 2010, 09:41:14 PM
What time and where?  I wont know my schedule till the week before.

The one I'm planning to attend is on Jan 5th at the Wailuku Community Center, I believe 6 to 8pm. Most of the earlier meetings back in Nov were in Hana, Upcountry and Kihei so I couldn't make the drive at the time.





yeah,  last one i heard about was in Hana.  was gonna have to x the idea if that was the case.  is V.I.S.S still operating?  cant find their website.


What is V.I.S.S. again?

I haven't had time to type my letter to the chief and inquire with the Sergeant of Arms about the pistol qualification test due to my holiday work schedule and hours.

I'm somewhat tempted to ask the crowd gathered if they are even aware Hawaii has a CCW permit but it isn't issued at all.

Ironically on Christmas night, at my uncle's party, his truck was stolen. He had parked it across the street to make room in the garage for the tables and chairs. He was going to get the presents from the truck but it was gone. Now thankfully he wasn't hurt but I can only imagine what might have happened if say he encountered the car thief/thieves in the act. They could have fled or what if they had attacked my uncle. Hawaii police departments, as hard working as they are, DO NOT HAVE the ability to magically teleport and be there to save you instantly during a violent altercation. If I remember correctly that is one of the main points for the police departments, that they will protect you so there is no need for a CCW.
Title: Re: Townhall meeting
Post by: 2asupport on December 28, 2010, 09:55:27 AM
V,

valley isle sport shooters.  their website is gone and Im trying to get next years calendar of events, open days.  post em here or pm me if you know anything.

thanks
Title: Re: Townhall meeting
Post by: Vladimir on December 29, 2010, 05:28:45 AM
I'd call DT-Sports to check. I was there last week picking up a rifle and he had phone call regarding the V.I.S.S website. He said it was being updated with changes.
Title: Re: Townhall meeting
Post by: 2asupport on December 29, 2010, 08:53:43 AM
nice, thanks...
Title: Re: Townhall meeting
Post by: Vladimir on January 05, 2011, 05:43:40 AM
Townhall meeting with the Chief tonight, I finish work just as it starts so hopefully I can still get there in time during questions and answer; assuming they do have a segment for that. Any other Maui members going should bring up the CCW question.
Title: Re: Townhall meeting
Post by: Vladimir on January 05, 2011, 07:35:20 PM
Went to the meeting and it was pretty informative. Was interesting to hear all the statistics broken down into sections. There were about 40-50 people in attendance. Most of the questions regarded traffic issues.

The CCW question was brought up but it doesn't seem like any will be issued anytime soon. The Chief is adamantly against CCW permits.