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Title: Do you think they'll allow this at kokohead?
Post by: dirsh on July 06, 2013, 09:40:10 AM
(http://tacstrike.com/images/products/5643.jpg)

Title: Re: Do you think they'll allow this at kokohead?
Post by: popeye on July 06, 2013, 09:48:52 AM
at 100y
can
Title: Re: Do you think they'll allow this at kokohead?
Post by: macsak on July 06, 2013, 09:54:19 AM
.22 lr at 50 yds

Problem may be that they interpret the target as being a human silhouette

at 100y
can
Title: >:D
Post by: Q on July 06, 2013, 10:00:37 AM
 >:D
Title: Re: Do you think they'll allow this at kokohead?
Post by: dirsh on July 06, 2013, 10:27:07 AM
maybe i'll replace the gongs with more squarish plates to make it seem less sillhouettey
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Post by: SurFKooK on July 06, 2013, 11:37:12 AM
Is that yours? If it is nice set up
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Post by: macsak on July 06, 2013, 11:40:25 AM
Or just use one of the two plates at a time

Nice set up
Where did you get it?
And how much?

And really nice use of the word silhouettey

maybe i'll replace the gongs with more squarish plates to make it seem less sillhouettey
Title: Re: Do you think they'll allow this at kokohead?
Post by: OldFaithful on July 06, 2013, 11:44:38 AM
Man I need some steel to shoot at..
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Post by: branz1029 on July 06, 2013, 01:00:35 PM
thats a very nice set-up
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Post by: Locked N Loaded on July 06, 2013, 01:02:33 PM
Worth the try to bring at Kokohead. Worst thing they'll say is no you can't put out that target. Are you using ar500 metal? Cause I was not able to drill through an ar500 metal plate. Nice looking target though. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Do you think they'll allow this at kokohead?
Post by: 230RN on July 06, 2013, 02:06:52 PM
What's the problem, Mr. RO?  Shooting chimes.  Different notes.  Bang... ding, bang...  dong.  Like wind chimes.  Get it?  Not silhouettey at all.   :D

(Have to add "silhouettey" to my spell checker.)

Terry, 230RN
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Post by: dirsh on July 06, 2013, 02:38:13 PM
available here:
http://tacstrike.com/SWINGERS/ (http://tacstrike.com/SWINGERS/)
Title: Re: Do you think they'll allow this at kokohead?
Post by: SurFKooK on July 06, 2013, 08:39:55 PM
Thanks for sharing the site dirsh  :shaka:
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Post by: GZire on July 08, 2013, 07:34:11 AM
maybe i'll replace the gongs with more squarish plates to make it seem less sillhouettey

Yeah I don't think the RSOs will like that as is.
Title: Re: Do you think they'll allow this at kokohead?
Post by: scubaru on July 08, 2013, 08:54:37 AM
Set that up on the rifle side and you will get a lot more hits on your target.......even when you are not shooting. haah
Title: Re: Do you think they'll allow this at kokohead?
Post by: f8ldzz on July 08, 2013, 09:14:06 AM
Why gotta look like a "human silhouette"...?
Why not add a 3rd "box" on the bottom - looking at the frame mount at the top, it looks like it's doable...
Kokohead got something against shooting a target that looks like a snowman?  :D
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Post by: mauiblue on July 08, 2013, 10:46:56 AM
Could you guys please enlighten me why silhouette targets are not allowed at Kokohead? Thanks.
Title: >:D
Post by: Q on July 08, 2013, 10:52:55 AM
 >:D
Title: Re: Do you think they'll allow this at kokohead?
Post by: macsak on July 08, 2013, 11:22:36 AM
i think i would use just the large plate

and i agree that lots of people will be shooting at your target

how much was shipping?

Why gotta look like a "human silhouette"...?
Why not add a 3rd "box" on the bottom - looking at the frame mount at the top, it looks like it's doable...
Kokohead got something against shooting a target that looks like a snowman?  :D
Title: Re: Do you think they'll allow this at kokohead?
Post by: dirsh on July 08, 2013, 11:25:03 AM
Kokohead got something against shooting a target that looks like a snowman?  :D

 :rofl:
Title: Re: Do you think they'll allow this at kokohead?
Post by: Lifer on July 08, 2013, 01:22:40 PM
Very nice setup.

I like the other ideas, snowman style; 3 squares or circles hanging from each other. >:D
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Post by: GZire on July 08, 2013, 01:56:34 PM
Very nice setup.

I like the other ideas, snowman style; 3 squares or circles hanging from each other. >:D

How about two circles and a rectangle between them?
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Post by: mauiblue on July 08, 2013, 08:41:49 PM
Look at the history of Hawaii's legislature, and you will understand.  :rofl: :shake:

That still doesn't answer my question. At Ukumehame on Maui silhouette targets are allowed. I've got even some bad guy poster targets and no range officers made any issues.
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Post by: bighoks on July 08, 2013, 10:09:40 PM
That's a cool setup you got there
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Post by: Kingkeoni on July 09, 2013, 06:56:56 AM
Could you guys please enlighten me why silhouette targets are not allowed at Kokohead? Thanks.

I believe that the reasoning for this is that they (idiots that run this state) believe that shooting at a silhouette gives people the feeling that you are training to kill someone, but shooting at a circle or square means you're not.


Otay, whudeber you shay mommy.  :rofl:
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Post by: OldFaithful on July 09, 2013, 03:43:39 PM
I believe that the reasoning for this is that they (idiots that run this state) believe that shooting at a silhouette gives people the feeling that you are training to kill someone, but shooting at a circle or square means you're not.


Otay, whudeber you shay mommy.  :rofl:

Lol this. And  the rule you cant put targets above each other on the handgun side because it simulates a body and headshot... ??? Lol just shoot below the target and then your real target.  what else am I training at the range for haha?  And you can stack them on the rifle side though?... ???
Title: Re: Do you think they'll allow this at kokohead?
Post by: dirsh on July 09, 2013, 04:26:58 PM
Lol this. And  the rule you cant put targets above each other on the handgun side because it simulates a body and headshot... ??? Lol just shoot below the target and then your real target.  what else am I training at the range for haha?  And you can stack them on the rifle side though?... ???

I always thought it was because they want people shooting straight and not at all kinds of angles  (prevent ricochets?)
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Post by: moosed on July 09, 2013, 04:44:35 PM
I always thought it was because they want people shooting straight and not at all kinds of angles  (prevent ricochets?)

Yeah, like more than half the people aren't hitting all around their targets at odd angles anyway!!  :rofl:    :wacko:
Title: Re: Do you think they'll allow this at kokohead?
Post by: dirsh on July 09, 2013, 05:46:25 PM
lol true
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Post by: mauiblue on July 09, 2013, 07:46:55 PM
Thanks kingkeoni for the reply to my post. Looks like it's quite strict at Kokohead. :-(
Title: >:D
Post by: Q on July 09, 2013, 08:36:51 PM
 >:D
Title: Re: Do you think they'll allow this at kokohead?
Post by: moosed on July 10, 2013, 01:19:49 AM
prior to and during WWII, service members initially trained with bull's eye targets. It was later revealed that by doing so, it did not prepare the men for the psychological effects of having to shoot an actual person, which resulted in men literally freezing up or completely going bat shit crazy after firefights.

I can only assume that the state cronies don't want anyone shooting at 'real' targets because they think it will make individuals 'comfortable' with shooting human beings, which give law enforcement the upper hand should some type of armed altercation take place.

If that's the case, it has already been proven by experts that games like COD can psychological condition and prepare an individual to kill far more than shooting at a silhouette can, so the argument that 'shooting at silhouettes makes people more prone to killing other people' is dumb; just like almost every other gun law in Hawaii.

I don't believe it's a matter of conditioning people to shoot another person.  I think silhouette training creates an automatic reaction to shoot center of mass.  Unless the attacker/enemy wears a bulls eye on his shirt, you need to practice shooting where you would on a live target.

I can see where shooting a silhouette can psychologically create a conditioned response, where you automatically draw and fire without having to stop to think what to do.  But, making you more or less inclined to kill another human being?  That's something that involves so many variables, I can't imagine the mental programming required to turn someone into a merciless killer if they weren't that way to begin with.  Shooting a human-shaped target doesn't cover a fraction of those variables!