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Tools and Uses => Firearms and Accessories => Topic started by: Q on July 15, 2013, 12:29:49 PM

Title: >:D
Post by: Q on July 15, 2013, 12:29:49 PM
 >:D
Title: Re: Saiga 12 or AR?
Post by: michalebsdad on July 15, 2013, 01:21:01 PM
Decision is to hard...get both!  :thumbsup: :D
Title: Re: Saiga 12 or AR?
Post by: SpeedTek on July 15, 2013, 01:27:15 PM
Apples and Oranges....not in the same class

GET BOTH
Title: Re: Saiga 12 or AR?
Post by: fishandshoot on July 15, 2013, 02:01:36 PM
both
Title: Re: Saiga 12 or AR?
Post by: GZire on July 15, 2013, 02:05:26 PM
Apples and Oranges....not in the same class

GET BOTH

Indeed.  Get a whole fruit basket.
Title: Re: Saiga 12 or AR?
Post by: drck1000 on July 15, 2013, 02:27:58 PM
Get both.  Even better, get a couple of each. 

Seriously though, if you had to choose one, I'd get an AR and a basic pump shotgun, like a Rem 870.  All of the Saiga 12s I've shot have their quirks.  Starting from mods needed from the get go, to how you reload, mag seating, etc.  I've seen a bunch of them fail parts and malfunction repeatedly.  Yeah, it's fun to shoot a Saiga 12, but I'd rather have a Benelli semi-auto. 
Title: Re: Saiga 12 or AR?
Post by: fanboy808 on July 15, 2013, 02:30:16 PM
buy my Saiga 12.....its still for sale in the classified section.   ;)
Title: Re: Saiga 12 or AR?
Post by: bighoks on July 15, 2013, 02:30:57 PM
Get one of these
Title: Re: Saiga 12 or AR?
Post by: talula on July 15, 2013, 02:46:44 PM
Get one of these
+1
Title: Re: Saiga 12 or AR?
Post by: new guy on July 15, 2013, 02:52:34 PM
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Title: Re: Saiga 12 or AR?
Post by: Bigkahuna808 on July 15, 2013, 02:59:06 PM
What do you intend to with it.  The ar is more flexable for more situations
Title: Re: Saiga 12 or AR?
Post by: mnpfamily on July 15, 2013, 03:02:22 PM
Get both.  Even better, get a couple of each. 

Seriously though, if you had to choose one, I'd get an AR and a basic pump shotgun, like a Rem 870.  All of the Saiga 12s I've shot have their quirks.  Starting from mods needed from the get go, to how you reload, mag seating, etc.  I've seen a bunch of them fail parts and malfunction repeatedly.  Yeah, it's fun to shoot a Saiga 12, but I'd rather have a Benelli semi-auto.
If not both, I'd vote quality AR.  If it has to be a semi-auto shotgun, I too would vote Benelli, especially with an extended mag tube. 
Title: Re: Saiga 12 or AR?
Post by: Dirtyc on July 15, 2013, 03:07:33 PM
I would consider a vepr12 instead of the saiga12
Title: Re: Saiga 12 or AR?
Post by: popeye on July 15, 2013, 03:25:38 PM
i would go ar if you dont have one yet
i rarely bring out the s12 anymore
Title: Re: Saiga 12 or AR?
Post by: bighoks on July 15, 2013, 04:07:10 PM
I would consider a vepr12 instead of the saiga12
+1 for the vepr12
Title: Re: Saiga 12 or AR?
Post by: Kingkeoni on July 15, 2013, 04:18:21 PM
Have any of you fired the VEPR12 yet?
Title: Re: Saiga 12 or AR?
Post by: BananaClip on July 15, 2013, 04:45:02 PM
Saiga12 and an AR lower......

You can always build the AR slowly......but at least you kinda got both :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Saiga 12 or AR?
Post by: michalebsdad on July 15, 2013, 05:08:24 PM
Get one of these

...for the win! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Saiga 12 or AR?
Post by: michalebsdad on July 15, 2013, 05:12:10 PM
Have any of you fired the VEPR12 yet?

Looks just like the Saiga...does it have the same issues?
Title: Re: Saiga 12 or AR?
Post by: aieahound on July 15, 2013, 07:21:02 PM
Saiga 12 or 5.56 ?

Now there's 2 ends of the spectrum.

...for the win! :thumbsup:

+1

 :thumbsup:

Title: >:D
Post by: Q on July 15, 2013, 08:10:45 PM
 >:D
Title: >:D
Post by: Q on July 15, 2013, 08:15:58 PM
 >:D
Title: Re: Saiga 12 or AR?
Post by: new guy on July 15, 2013, 10:37:56 PM
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Title: >:D
Post by: Q on July 15, 2013, 11:51:04 PM
 >:D
Title: >:D
Post by: Q on July 16, 2013, 01:49:07 AM
 >:D
Title: Re: Saiga 12 or AR?
Post by: fishandshoot on July 16, 2013, 10:19:36 AM
saiga 12 w/ 20rd drums (no drums available for the vepr just yet) AND an AR lower
Title: >:D
Post by: Q on July 16, 2013, 11:07:09 AM
 >:D
Title: Re: Saiga 12 or AR?
Post by: fishandshoot on July 16, 2013, 11:44:55 PM
I was thinking more of the 8-10 round mags.

The 20 round drums are not worth the weight, and there is no realistic way I could carry them in a rig.

Two 20rd drums fit a "Harris radio pouch" perfectly. (http://i1194.photobucket.com/albums/aa368/m249s/DSC_1986.jpg)

Not many shotguns can take advantage of a 20rd drum; the amount of firepower in a drum is well worth the weight tradeoff in my opinion. In addition, I feel most of the 8-10rd mags are not as durable as an MD arms drum. AGP mags are held together with small screws and feel flimsy to me, but the 20rd drum has a video of it being ran over by a truck and still performs.  DRUMS>Stick mags. The only downfall of the drum is that it won't load some shells with a longer overall length.
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Post by: Q on July 17, 2013, 12:01:52 AM
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Title: Re: Saiga 12 or AR?
Post by: Kingkeoni on July 17, 2013, 12:10:10 AM
I have become sold on a vepr over a saiga, but now the biggest issue is starting to be price. 1500 each = WOWZERS, and that's if you can find one.

Looks like the AR and possibly AK are still in the game, as I could easily purchase one of each for the price of 1 VEPR.

Don't even think about it then.

Get an AR and an AK.

Two of the most iconic rifles in history.   :thumbsup:
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Post by: Q on July 17, 2013, 01:27:30 AM
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