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Title: kokohead rules on using folding rifle stocks
Post by: jaynick on July 16, 2013, 09:52:35 AM
are there any written rules against them?
Title: Re: kokohead rules on using folding rifle stocks
Post by: SpeedTek on July 16, 2013, 10:00:50 AM
No
Title: >:D
Post by: Q on July 16, 2013, 10:25:09 AM
 >:D
Title: Re: kokohead rules on using folding rifle stocks
Post by: Scar16 on July 16, 2013, 10:39:41 AM
Can't use the rifle when in the folded position, I tried with my scar and got scolded lol
Title: Re: kokohead rules on using folding rifle stocks
Post by: Jphilly on July 16, 2013, 11:09:57 AM
Yup I tried shooting my gsg mp5 without extending the stock and got busted
Title: Re: kokohead rules on using folding rifle stocks
Post by: dirsh on July 16, 2013, 11:47:21 AM
Really? I didn't know that. What if you had an AK that didn't have a stock?
Title: Re: kokohead rules on using folding rifle stocks
Post by: Scar16 on July 16, 2013, 12:13:01 PM
Really? I didn't know that. What if you had an AK that didn't have a stock?

Not sure? Unles u bought it like that? Btw what is a Yugo ak going for now a days? Have a friend wanting to sell his underfolder
Title: Re: kokohead rules on using folding rifle stocks
Post by: Kingkeoni on July 16, 2013, 12:20:01 PM
Can't use the rifle when in the folded position, I tried with my scar and got scolded lol

Yup I tried shooting my gsg mp5 without extending the stock and got busted

Wow, for real?

I shoot my AK with stock folded all the time.

Nobody's ever said anything.

Good to know.
Title: Re: kokohead rules on using folding rifle stocks
Post by: GZire on July 16, 2013, 04:26:52 PM
Can't use the rifle when in the folded position, I tried with my scar and got scolded lol

Standing up or on a bench?


In any case...........ridiculous.  How is it any different than shooting a scoped pistol?
Title: Re: kokohead rules on using folding rifle stocks
Post by: Scar16 on July 16, 2013, 07:19:35 PM
Standing up or on a bench?


In any case...........ridiculous.  How is it any different than shooting a scoped pistol?

Both
Title: Re: kokohead rules on using folding rifle stocks
Post by: jaynick on July 16, 2013, 07:42:19 PM
ive shot a few types of folded stocks on multiple occasions in the past with no problems. scar's,ak side and underfolders, 870 topfolder, a converted saiga12 etc. a very nice 2a member even let a few of us try out a pretty sweet preban ar pistol with a short stroke gas piston so no buffer tube or vfg! that was unique to shoot but still not dangerous.

anyway i started the thread because the other day i got yelled at when my friend and i loaded 6 rounds in a mag and the RSO walks over and yells asking if we know what rule #4 is. confused with what we did wrong i say no not off the top of my head, but that i am familiar with the rules since i come here pretty often nowadays. he huffed and said "guess not ah, u firing 6 shots rule numba 4 says 5 shot limit" i apologized for our honest minor mistake and he shook his head and muttered to know the rules if i wanna shoot and walked away.
after he sat back down i saw him watching over me intently so i decided it was time to clean up since i was kind of finished with my ammo anyway so i cased up all my rifles but one. ive already previously shot it three times with the stock folded since i bought it less than a month ago and i proceeded to do it again for one 5 round mag before i left.

i was seated at the bench and had my two elbows planted as a brace and i was using a 30 round mag as a monopod. i slow fired 4 rounds and just as i squeezed off the fifth i saw the same RSO in the corner of my eye briskly walking towards me again all upset and came over and yelled that there is no shooting like that. i sat there and waited for him to once again cite the specific rule i was breaking, but i wasnt trying to ask for trouble or anything. he just stood there mad like i did it just to spite him since he just yelled at us. i walked over to the board to review the rules and didnt see anything mentioning shooting folded/collapsing stocks or legal ak/ar pistols with no buttstock at all. he was just glaring at me like i was a smart ass so i finished cleaning up and left.

its not like i was hip firing a large caliber firearm while doing some type of movie reenactment, i was just practicing controlled slow fire with the stock folded while seated and properly braced for the massive recoil from a muzzlebraked .223  ::) 
Title: Re: kokohead rules on using folding rifle stocks
Post by: jaynick on July 16, 2013, 07:45:56 PM
i guess removing the stock off my super light 15-22 and adding a new sig stabilizing brace is out of the question huh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsqy73wE5Eo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsqy73wE5Eo)
Title: Re: kokohead rules on using folding rifle stocks
Post by: Aiea78 on July 16, 2013, 07:58:23 PM
this is a really sad thread.  how can we get some rules updated out there?
Title: Re: kokohead rules on using folding rifle stocks
Post by: Scar16 on July 16, 2013, 08:16:23 PM
ive shot a few types of folded stocks on multiple occasions in the past with no problems. scar's,ak side and underfolders, 870 topfolder, a converted saiga12 etc. a very nice 2a member even let a few of us try out a pretty sweet preban ar pistol with a short stroke gas piston so no buffer tube or vfg! that was unique to shoot but still not dangerous.

anyway i started the thread because the other day i got yelled at when my friend and i loaded 6 rounds in a mag and the RSO walks over and yells asking if we know what rule #4 is. confused with what we did wrong i say no not off the top of my head, but that i am familiar with the rules since i come here pretty often nowadays. he huffed and said "guess not ah, u firing 6 shots rule numba 4 says 5 shot limit" i apologized for our honest minor mistake and he shook his head and muttered to know the rules if i wanna shoot and walked away.
after he sat back down i saw him watching over me intently so i decided it was time to clean up since i was kind of finished with my ammo anyway so i cased up all my rifles but one. ive already previously shot it three times with the stock folded since i bought it less than a month ago and i proceeded to do it again for one 5 round mag before i left.

i was seated at the bench and had my two elbows planted as a brace and i was using a 30 round mag as a monopod. i slow fired 4 rounds and just as i squeezed off the fifth i saw the same RSO in the corner of my eye briskly walking towards me again all upset and came over and yelled that there is no shooting like that. i sat there and waited for him to once again cite the specific rule i was breaking, but i wasnt trying to ask for trouble or anything. he just stood there mad like i did it just to spite him since he just yelled at us. i walked over to the board to review the rules and didnt see anything mentioning shooting folded/collapsing stocks or legal ak/ar pistols with no buttstock at all. he was just glaring at me like i was a smart ass so i finished cleaning up and left.

its not like i was hip firing a large caliber firearm while doing some type of movie reenactment, i was just practicing controlled slow fire with the stock folded while seated and properly braced for the massive recoil from a muzzlebraked .223  ::)

Looks like the person was just watching ya like an eagle after loading 6. They can get angry n yell to ensure it wont happen again but yeah it would be nice if they posted a more visible list of whats we can cant do, and yes they should allow folded stocks when firing since its legal to own here
Title: Re: kokohead rules on using folding rifle stocks
Post by: mr. me 808 on July 16, 2013, 08:34:20 PM
Hey guys, speaking of rules at kokohead.  I had another question about using pistols at the rifle range.  Correct me if I'm wrong but you can shoot pistols at the rifle range as long as you have a scope on it, correct?  If so, what is considered a scope?  Does a pistol with a red dot on it like a trijicon rmr qualify as being a "scope"?
Title: Re: kokohead rules on using folding rifle stocks
Post by: dirtylickins on July 16, 2013, 08:54:36 PM
Hey guys, speaking of rules at kokohead.  I had another question about using pistols at the rifle range.  Correct me if I'm wrong but you can shoot pistols at the rifle range as long as you have a scope on it, correct?  If so, what is considered a scope?  Does a pistol with a red dot on it like a trijicon rmr qualify as being a "scope"?
yep i know cause i hAve shot there all day with this....
Title: Re: kokohead rules on using folding rifle stocks
Post by: mr. me 808 on July 16, 2013, 08:56:44 PM
yep i know cause i hAve shot there all day with this....

What the heck is that thing?  Looks nuts, is that an AR mag?  What caliber?
Title: Re: kokohead rules on using folding rifle stocks
Post by: OldFaithful on July 16, 2013, 09:37:38 PM
What the heck is that thing?  Looks nuts, is that an AR mag?  What caliber?

lol the guy to the left is wondering the same thing
Title: Re: kokohead rules on using folding rifle stocks
Post by: Scar16 on July 16, 2013, 09:52:15 PM
yep i know cause i hAve shot there all day with this....

Nice!  :thumbsup: keltec?
Title: Re: kokohead rules on using folding rifle stocks
Post by: NoScade on July 16, 2013, 11:00:10 PM
yep i know cause i hAve shot there all day with this....

Hahahahaha you nuts  :geekdanc:
Title: Re: kokohead rules on using folding rifle stocks
Post by: dirtylickins on July 17, 2013, 07:58:24 AM
Hahahahaha you nuts  :geekdanc:
  :shaka: had to its for educational purposes.
What the heck is that thing?  Looks nuts, is that an AR mag?  What caliber?
yes its a AR, yes its AR mag  5.56 cal, and no it is not a kel tec. Yes its bad ass. :geekdanc:
Title: Re: kokohead rules on using folding rifle stocks
Post by: GZire on July 17, 2013, 11:12:03 AM
yep i know cause i hAve shot there all day with this....



It would have been interesting if one of the RSO's told you to put a stock on that pistol.............
Title: Re: kokohead rules on using folding rifle stocks
Post by: dirtylickins on July 17, 2013, 11:27:05 AM


It would have been interesting if one of the RSO's told you to put a stock on that pistol.............
would have been???... Btw it is my friends idea .... he says he no scared
Title: Re: kokohead rules on using folding rifle stocks
Post by: GZire on July 17, 2013, 02:16:47 PM
would have been???... Btw it is my friends idea .... he says he no scared


Yeah you could have given the RSO the pistol and the stock.  Once the RSO puts it on, you call the police and have him arrested.
Title: Re: kokohead rules on using folding rifle stocks
Post by: dirtylickins on July 17, 2013, 03:24:32 PM

Yeah you could have given the RSO the pistol and the stock.  Once the RSO puts it on, you call the police and have him arrested.
:rofl: your right. :rofl:
Title: Re: kokohead rules on using folding rifle stocks
Post by: BananaClip on July 17, 2013, 08:15:50 PM
Can't use the rifle when in the folded position, I tried with my scar and got scolded lol
Shoot, that sucks..... I had no idea we couldn't shoot with the stock folded....
I shot my M70 with the under folder folded a number of times and was lucky not to get scolded....
Title: Re: kokohead rules on using folding rifle stocks
Post by: lasersgoPewPew77 on July 17, 2013, 08:23:48 PM
Every time I've tried to shoot one of my underfolders or sidefolders in the folded positions, I got scoldings and I've asked after if there was a written rule on it and they said yes there was, but I've never seen it in writting. 
Title: Re: kokohead rules on using folding rifle stocks
Post by: Boomah on July 19, 2013, 09:09:19 PM
Wow, pretty cool... Didn't know those were sold here!

Going back to the original question, count me in with the folks who have shot multiple folders without any issues. I've only done so standing, and just to try it with the given firearm ;D

Ahui hou  :shaka:

Boomah