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General Topics => General Discussion => Topic started by: roadster99 on July 18, 2013, 08:42:37 PM
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Moving to the mainland. I have about 500 rnds each of 9mm, 40 & 45. Close to 1K rnds of 5.56. Is it worth the hassle of trying to ship it? I've read a few of the threads in regard to shipping ammo, and it seems like it's a headache. I'm willing to pay to have it shipped, but really am still confused as how to do it and who to use.
Or, I could sell it. Is there enough interest in the forum for me to sell?
Ideas welcome.
Thanks for your time, guys ;)
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Post it on the classifieds.
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Moving to the mainland. I have about 500 rnds each of 9mm, 40 & 45. Close to 1K rnds of 5.56. Is it worth the hassle of trying to ship it? I've read a few of the threads in regard to shipping ammo, and it seems like it's a headache. I'm willing to pay to have it shipped, but really am still confused as how to do it and who to use.
Or, I could sell it. Is there enough interest in the forum for me to sell?
Ideas welcome.
Thanks for your time, guys ;)
Not worth shipping.
Unless you ship it in your household goods and it doesn't cost you anything more.
40,45 & 5.56 are plentiful right now.
If anything, just ship the 9mm and 22lr if you have it.
Sell the rest and just rebuy it when you get wherever you're going.
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Moving to the mainland. I have about 500 rnds each of 9mm, 40 & 45. Close to 1K rnds of 5.56.
Or, I could sell it. Is there enough interest in the forum for me to sell?
Ideas welcome.
Thanks for your time, guys ;)
If you are going to sell them please PM me first , i might just buy them all :D
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I'll take donations!!! :shaka:
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Hahaha, you greedy bastards. This poor guy wants honest advice. :rofl:
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Common king, Free 99 is a good deal. The best kamaina rate ever!
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how much 9mm are you charging for a bottle?
I'll trade limoncello for the 9mm; or just buy it :thumbsup:
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someone also asked in another thread, and i guess we could handle this through PM
depending on how much you value the 9mm, $30 could be from 64 to 82 rounds
Well right now, I have only 24oz bottles because my shipment of 12oz bottles didn't come in yet.
People usually 'donate' 17.50 for my 12oz, so I was looking to trade a 24oz for $30 in rounds for 7.62x54r, and I guess the same would apply to 9mm
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Ship ammo with your house hold goods :thumbsup:
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Ship ammo with your house hold goods :thumbsup:
The following items may not be shipped as HHG (for a complete listing see JTR, Appendix A):
1. Motor vehicles, boats that cannot be fitted into a van (whether or not actually shipped by van), airplanes, mobile homes, camper trailers, and farming vehicles
2. Live animals, birds, fish, and reptiles
3. Cordwood and building materials
4. Property for resale, disposal, or commercial use rather than for use by the employee or immediate family
5. Privately owned live ammunition
6. Hazardous articles including explosives, flammable and corrosive materials, poisons, etc.
http://www.dfas.mil/pcstravel/civentitlements/movementofgoods.html (http://www.dfas.mil/pcstravel/civentitlements/movementofgoods.html)
I assume if the DoD prohibits ammo, movers in general do as well.
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I assume if the DoD prohibits ammo, movers in general do as well.
You assume wrong.
I've moved two times and both times shipped ammo in household goods.
Two different movers were good with it.
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I appreciate the replies! Moving for family reasons. A relative is in need of some assistance, and we're surprisingly the closest and most "mobile" ready relative actually willing to help.
In regard to the ammo, I guess I'll sell everything but the 9mm. As I'm not moving any real household goods (just really getting rid of everything) and using the post to ship my boxes, any advice on companies who ship hazmat? FedEx as the best option? Like I said, I don't mind paying to ensure my safety in my new place of residency.
I'll hang a post in the classifieds when I have a bit more time. Kind of busy at the moment and using my phone to reply.
Again, thanks for the replies and well wishes.
As an added incentive, I'm moving to a state with open carry, concealed carry and only requires the registering of handguns due to said open and concealed carry laws :)
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It has title 3 licensing (i believe that's what it is called?) but I wouldn't want that because you subject yourself and your home to random inspections by the feds.
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Okay fine, I will solve this! Since I am not moving back to the mainland for a minute. I will "hold" all of your ammo for you, I would hate for you to stress about PCSing and figuring out what to do with your ammo. So I will bite the bullet and take care of that ammo for you! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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I see you arent shipping out HHG, but heres my story anyways.
I PCSed from Oahu in May to Texas. I had over 5k rounds of various calibers in my HHG. I just prepacked em sorta discretely with some of my other stuff in boxes. The packers just taped the boxes up at put them in the truck, no biggie.
I was more concerned about a rumor I heard about them not shipping out unregistered guns as I had 4-5 very expensive unregistered firearms (I don't believe in registration yada yada, don't care, I'm in freedom-land now) . That didn't turn out to be the case, even with them cataloging each serial and what not.
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Examples of moving company websites which list AMMUNITION as "HAZARDOUS MATERIAL" and state they WILL NOT accept ammo for packing or moving:
Altas Van Lines
http://www.atlasvanlines.com/how-to-move/non-allowable (http://www.atlasvanlines.com/how-to-move/non-allowable)s/
Mayflower Moving Company
http://www.mayflower.com/moving/full-service-movers/moving-tips/nonallowables.htm
(http://www.mayflower.com/moving/full-service-movers/moving-tips/nonallowables.htm)
Tons of "Moving Tips" and "Moving Company Checklists" sites also state ammunition will not be accepted by movers. One example:
http://www.mymovingreviews.com/move/items-movers-wont-take (http://www.mymovingreviews.com/move/items-movers-wont-take)
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If "CP" ("Customer Packed"), then you may be liable for any damages hazardous materials cause. Insurance will probably not cover you.
If the moving company's packers and drivers allow you to include ammo, I would be sure to get that in writing. If ammo is in their Hazardous/Restricted Materials list, then you take the risk including it in the HHG.
I watched an Atlas moving van with 2 Air Force families' belongings being completely destroyed by fire outside Tinker AFB, OK. One of them was moving his dirt bike, and he apparently didn't prep the gas tank as required.
As with all things in life, the choice is yours...as are the consequences.
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^ Because ammo spontaneously ignites during shipping lol
just messin' brother, you have valid points but I'm not the typical "turn off your cell phone on a plane" type.
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^ Because ammo spontaneously ignites during shipping lol
just messin' brother, you have valid points but I'm not the typical "turn off your cell phone on a plane" type.
My point isn't about the theories of whether ammunition can be stored or moved safely. There are plenty of videos and literature debunking all the scarey scenarios people imagine regarding ammunition storage, damage, and such.
I was focused on whether moving companies will (a) accept ammunition for moving with HHG, and (b) whether the customer is willing to accept the potential risks should something unfortunate happen.
With the cost of guns and ammo, I'd personally treat them more like family heirlooms ... just to avoid having my collection mysteriously vanish en route!
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So here is the thing:
When I order ammo, its shipped either freight or hazmat via UPS.
So why can't this guy ship his stuff?
I don't make the rules. I just report what I see ... :wacko:
Hazardous materials – this means things that are corrosive, explosive, flammable and thus dangerous. These include: aerosols (deodorants, body spray, etc.), weapons and ammunition, car batteries, charcoal, cleaning solutions, bleach, gas (if you are moving your mower empty the tank), lamp oil, matches, paint and paint thinner, fireworks, nail polish remover and pool chemicals. Items movers won’t move are these dangerous substances. They can damage not just your property but also the company’s property and the lives of the people around. This is why these things movers will not take.
Flammable materials
Forbidden for moving are flammables, corrosives and explosives.
Read more: http://www.mymovingreviews.com/move/items-movers-wont-take#ixzz2ZZwQ6pqd (http://www.mymovingreviews.com/move/items-movers-wont-take#ixzz2ZZwQ6pqd)
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The following items may not be shipped as HHG (for a complete listing see JTR, Appendix A):
1. Motor vehicles, boats that cannot be fitted into a van (whether or not actually shipped by van), airplanes, mobile homes, camper trailers, and farming vehicles
2. Live animals, birds, fish, and reptiles
3. Cordwood and building materials
4. Property for resale, disposal, or commercial use rather than for use by the employee or immediate family
5. Privately owned live ammunition
6. Hazardous articles including explosives, flammable and corrosive materials, poisons, etc.
http://www.dfas.mil/pcstravel/civentitlements/movementofgoods.html (http://www.dfas.mil/pcstravel/civentitlements/movementofgoods.html)
I assume if the DoD prohibits ammo, movers in general do as well.
A bag of cheesburgers and a 12pk of green bottles can fix that shit. Also, self-pack ammo boxes, or other stuff that may be questionable. I almost had to get rid of like 35 bottles of liquor... until I donated 1 bottle to each guy on my moving team =P of their choice. Then everything magically left the house!
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A bag of cheesburgers and a 12pk of green bottles can fix that shit. Also, self-pack ammo boxes, or other stuff that may be questionable. I almost had to get rid of like 35 bottles of liquor... until I donated 1 bottle to each guy on my moving team =P of their choice. Then everything magically left the house!
Exactly.
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just shoot it
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Would I be able to ship my firearms via ffl dealer? I was hoping to ship them as to avoid any hassles at the gate during travels.
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A bag of cheesburgers and a 12pk of green bottles can fix that shit. Also, self-pack ammo boxes, or other stuff that may be questionable. I almost had to get rid of like 35 bottles of liquor... until I donated 1 bottle to each guy on my moving team =P of their choice. Then everything magically left the house!
I wouldn't tell the shippers anything, that's how stuff gets stolen.
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Would I be able to ship my firearms via ffl dealer? I was hoping to ship them as to avoid any hassles at the gate during travels.
Yes but if you have a large collection it would be expensive.
I'm pretty sure you can mail rifles and shotguns to yourself, legally.
This would help you avoid FFL fees.
Truthfully, I'd just travel with them in your check in luggage.
Much easier and safer.
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I wouldn't tell the shippers anything, that's how stuff gets stolen.
Yeah, you can steal it.. I will take the check and buy new guns. That's not my problem and you can't prevent it. I will say when I moved to Hawaii, we couldn't find my shotgun. They actually had taken it, and placed it into the dresser. They were going batshit crazy looking for it.
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I wouldn't tell the shippers anything, that's how stuff gets stolen.
More importantly, this isn't the time to be all #tinfoil hat with it. There are so many ways your stuff could get damaged, lost, dropped, or even stolen. If you don't declare it, and it's not logged - then well tuff cookies in trying to get a reimbursement. I mean what am I out if I lose my ammo, maybe a few grand? My rifles comes up missing, and we are talking a whole different ball game of dollars.
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Hide it in your household goods, especially if it is sealed.
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I only have one rifle and 3 handguns. But I'm not shipping household goods. I'm mailing everything via post office (so far). I don't want to go through the hassle of dealing with airports (but just might put up with it, Idk) and wanted to have the security of knowing an ffl was shipping my goods. Which is why I asked. I still don't really know which avenue I will be taking in regard to how I should ship them and if I should even worry about shipping ammo...-_-
But I do appreciate the replies and help offered!
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I only have one rifle and 3 handguns. But I'm not shipping household goods. I'm mailing everything via post office (so far). I don't want to go through the hassle of dealing with airports (but just might put up with it, Idk) and wanted to have the security of knowing an ffl was shipping my goods. Which is why I asked. I still don't really know which avenue I will be taking in regard to how I should ship them and if I should even worry about shipping ammo...-_-
But I do appreciate the replies and help offered!
Handguns cannot be shipped via USPS. Only long guns can be. Handguns require a commercial shipper ... FedEX or UPS.
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I only have one rifle and 3 handguns. But I'm not shipping household goods. I'm mailing everything via post office (so far). I don't want to go through the hassle of dealing with airports (but just might put up with it, Idk) and wanted to have the security of knowing an ffl was shipping my goods. Which is why I asked. I still don't really know which avenue I will be taking in regard to how I should ship them and if I should even worry about shipping ammo...-_-
But I do appreciate the replies and help offered!
Bro, honestly, if you only have 1 rifle and 3 handguns then by all means take them with you on the flight.
Remember to have them all unloaded.
Put them in a hard locking case ( like a pelican) with real locks on it. Not that TSA crap.
Get to the airport an additional 15 minutes earlier.
Remember to declare the firearms to the person at the counter checking in your bag.
They'll have you open the case to make sure they're unloaded, have you sign a little fluorescent orange card and stick the card in the case with the guns.
Make sure your name and phone number are clearly marked somewhere on the case in case someone needs to see in it after the fact. (That is highly unlikely)
This is the absolute easiest way to get your firearms to where you want to go.
You can even take up to 11 pounds of ammo with you in the same case if you'd like. As long as its in factory boxes (not loose)
You will be amazed at how easy and not complicated it is to travel with firearms.
I do it all the time.
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Bro, honestly, if you only have 1 rifle and 3 handguns then by all means take them with you on the flight.
Remember to have them all unloaded.
Put them in a hard locking case ( like a pelican) with real locks on it. Not that TSA crap.
Get to the airport an additional 15 minutes earlier.
Remember to declare the firearms to the person at the counter checking in your bag.
They'll have you open the case to make sure they're unloaded, have you sign a little fluorescent orange card and stick the card in the case with the guns.
Make sure your name and phone number are clearly marked somewhere on the case in case someone needs to see in it after the fact. (That is highly unlikely)
This is the absolute easiest way to get your firearms to where you want to go.
You can even take up to 11 pounds of ammo with you in the same case if you'd like. As long as its in factory boxes (not loose)
You will be amazed at how easy and not complicated it is to travel with firearms.
I do it all the time.
I was just about to say everything he said. Most of my coworkers who have pcs'd here traveled with guns. Took an extra 5 min to fill out the card, and they didn't even have to show the gun or open the bag. All one guy said to the counter person was "I have something to declare." The lady just handed him the form and weighed the bag and it was all done. Then again that was Alaska, diff culture....
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Bro, honestly, if you only have 1 rifle and 3 handguns then by all means take them with you on the flight.
Remember to have them all unloaded.
Put them in a hard locking case ( like a pelican) with real locks on it. Not that TSA crap.
Get to the airport an additional 15 minutes earlier.
Remember to declare the firearms to the person at the counter checking in your bag.
They'll have you open the case to make sure they're unloaded, have you sign a little fluorescent orange card and stick the card in the case with the guns.
Make sure your name and phone number are clearly marked somewhere on the case in case someone needs to see in it after the fact. (That is highly unlikely)
This is the absolute easiest way to get your firearms to where you want to go.
You can even take up to 11 pounds of ammo with you in the same case if you'd like. As long as its in factory boxes (not loose)
You will be amazed at how easy and not complicated it is to travel with firearms.
I do it all the time.
I have all the original hard cases for each gun. They're not bad. The Sig rifle case is so-so, though. Do I need to put them all in one case? Or can I put the handguns in a checked bag and check the rifle separately? Apologize, I know you're not Hawaiian, but just in case you might know the answer ;)
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check the airline's website, they may have a specific preference on how they want things. Most just say pack it in one of your checked bags, the rifle will probably have to be checked seperatly.
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I have all the original hard cases for each gun. They're not bad. The Sig rifle case is so-so, though. Do I need to put them all in one case? Or can I put the handguns in a checked bag and check the rifle separately? Apologize, I know you're not Hawaiian, but just in case you might know the answer ;)
You don't have to have them all in one case, it just makes it easier to check in.
You're only opening one case instead of 4.
You'll also have to fill out individual firearms declaration cards for each case.
I would get a pelican case or a similar strong case to ship in.
Those stock rifle cases suck big time.
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You don't have to have them all in one case, it just makes it easier to check in.
You're only opening one case instead of 4.
You'll also have to fill out individual firearms declaration cards for each case.
I would get a pelican case or a similar strong case to ship in.
Those stock rifle cases suck big time.
I'll take your advice. Thank you for you help ITT!!
WTB Pelican Rifle Case.
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I've done some searching and it seems the Pelican 1700 is a "universal" rifle case, which is what I was looking for. So that answers the rifle question. My question remains for my pistols. I have 3 and all 3 have their original "crush-proof" hard cases. Now do I need to purchase an additional hard-sided bag to put them into? Or can they go into, say a regular suitcase to be checked? Just thought I'd throw it out there for those who have experience traveling with firearms. Thanks guys!
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I've done some searching and it seems the Pelican 1700 is a "universal" rifle case, which is what I was looking for. So that answers the rifle question. My question remains for my pistols. I have 3 and all 3 have their original "crush-proof" hard cases. Now do I need to purchase an additional hard-sided bag to put them into? Or can they go into, say a regular suitcase to be checked? Just thought I'd throw it out there for those who have experience traveling with firearms. Thanks guys!
I would just put the pistols in with the rifle in the pelican case and mail or ship the pistol hard cases to yourself.
You could just put the plastic pistol cases in with your luggage but definitely put all firearms together in the pelican case.
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I only have one rifle and 3 handguns. But I'm not shipping household goods. I'm mailing everything via post office (so far). I don't want to go through the hassle of dealing with airports (but just might put up with it, Idk) and wanted to have the security of knowing an ffl was shipping my goods. Which is why I asked. I still don't really know which avenue I will be taking in regard to how I should ship them and if I should even worry about shipping ammo...-_-
But I do appreciate the replies and help offered!
Last time I moved from Hawaii, I picked up my truck at the Long Beach port, so I had a overnight stay in Cali. Because of this, I shipped all my ARs in one large case to myself at the Lake Havasu, AZ post office and picked them up when I got in town. Came out to $300 or so, but better than dealing with California laws.
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I am buying this one for my upcoming PCS to Washington State....
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0029KDHRM/?tag=2ahawaii-20 (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0029KDHRM/?tag=2ahawaii-20)
Looks big enough for all of your guns...
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This is my favorite.
Probably the most durable case I've ever used.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0014D85AY/?tag=2ahawaii-20 (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0014D85AY/?tag=2ahawaii-20)
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Looking at the other cases I guess I went relatively cheap. Had this case since 2006 and it has been interisland with Hawaiian, Go, and Mokulele. And 4 trips on American and United to Texas and Michigan. All trips with two scoped long guns, boxed ammo, and hunting knives. No oversize or overweight charges.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000P583SQ/?tag=2ahawaii-20 (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000P583SQ/?tag=2ahawaii-20)
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This is my favorite.
Probably the most durable case I've ever used.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0014D85AY/?tag=2ahawaii-20 (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0014D85AY/?tag=2ahawaii-20)
Does the foam come pre cut like the picture shows? Or do you cut it yourself?
Btw, thanks again, everyone for the help!
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Does the foam come pre cut like the picture shows? Or do you cut it yourself?
Btw, thanks again, everyone for the help!
I had to cut it myself
It's better that way because you can arrange it any way you like it
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I had to cut it myself
It's better that way because you can arrange it any way you like it
Lol, I was going to say....would be difficult to fit an AR into a conventional rifle cut out. I think I'm going to go with that one. Thanks for the recommendation!