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General Topics => General Discussion => Topic started by: Aegis808 on July 25, 2013, 03:42:53 AM

Title: Amendment to defund NSA domestic surveillance defeated
Post by: Aegis808 on July 25, 2013, 03:42:53 AM

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jul/25/nsa-surveillance-amash-amendment-narrow-defeat (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jul/25/nsa-surveillance-amash-amendment-narrow-defeat)

The first major legislative challenge to the National Security Agency's bulk collection of phone records from millions of Americans was defeated by only a narrow margin on Wednesday

The measure, known as the Amash amendment, sought to end the NSA's years-long secret practice of collecting the phone records of millions of Americans unsuspected of any crime or foreign intelligence threat.


Of note is one of our representatives Colleen Hanabusa voting against the amendment. i will at least give credit to Tulsi Gabbard for voting for the amendment. I Also want to add that somehow Darrell Issa somehow got confused on the constitution and voted against this amendment as well.

Title: Re: Amendment to defund NSA domestic surveillance defeated
Post by: kevlar on July 25, 2013, 01:21:52 PM

This is an issue where libertarians, liberals, conservatives and others can agree on. The NSA is violating the Fourth Amendment, in my opinion. This snooping crap essentially makes us guilty until proven innocent. The government has determined that it's a fait accompli that we're all guilty of something and this is the means to catch us. Hanabusa is a useful idiot. Something tells me that if that if this NSA reveal had happened under Bush's tenure, she'd be all up in arms over it. She's nothing but a party loyalist/Obama sycophant.

Title: Re: Amendment to defund NSA domestic surveillance defeated
Post by: BUD on July 25, 2013, 03:35:19 PM

Quote from: kevlar on July 25, 2013, 01:21:52 PM

This is an issue where libertarians, liberals, conservatives and others can agree on. The NSA is violating the Fourth Amendment, in my opinion. This snooping crap essentially makes us guilty until proven innocent. The government has determined that it's a fait accompli that we're all guilty of something and this is the means to catch us. Hanabusa is a useful idiot. Something tells me that if that if this NSA reveal had happened under Bush's tenure, she'd be all up in arms over it. She's nothing but a party loyalist/Obama sycophant.

Shhhhhh.....they're listening  :thumbsup:

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Post by: Q on July 25, 2013, 03:45:25 PM

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Title: Re: Amendment to defund NSA domestic surveillance defeated
Post by: roadster99 on July 25, 2013, 06:38:23 PM

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/07/25/a-different-amendment-restricting-nsa-spying-was-passed-overwhelmingly-by-the-house-but-no-one-is-talking-about-it/ (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/07/25/a-different-amendment-restricting-nsa-spying-was-passed-overwhelmingly-by-the-house-but-no-one-is-talking-about-it/)

Title: Re: Amendment to defund NSA domestic surveillance defeated
Post by: VLDragon on July 26, 2013, 05:19:56 PM

Quote from: roadster99 on July 25, 2013, 06:38:23 PM

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/07/25/a-different-amendment-restricting-nsa-spying-was-passed-overwhelmingly-by-the-house-but-no-one-is-talking-about-it/ (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/07/25/a-different-amendment-restricting-nsa-spying-was-passed-overwhelmingly-by-the-house-but-no-one-is-talking-about-it/)

The Pompeo Amendment does nothing to stop the surveillance of American citizens and is a joke. http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130724/20115023935/rep-mike-pompeo-says-nsas-metadata-program-is-result-way-government-is-supposed-to-operate.shtml (http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130724/20115023935/rep-mike-pompeo-says-nsas-metadata-program-is-result-way-government-is-supposed-to-operate.shtml)

Here is Hanabusa's official statement: http://hanabusa.house.gov/press-release/statement-nsa-amendments-2014-defense-spending-bill (http://hanabusa.house.gov/press-release/statement-nsa-amendments-2014-defense-spending-bill)

I've sent her a page long complaint detailing my disappointment... If only it meant something.