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General Topics => General Discussion => Topic started by: digital808 on July 25, 2013, 04:40:08 PM
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I find it quite disturbing that the latest homicide of a woman here in Honolulu was stabbed multiple times and her body wrapped up and laid to rest on the driveway! WTF! Times have changed! Wish the Chief would understand this and let us law abiding citizens defend ourselves and to at least have a chance to live another day when confronted with this type of situation. I work in downtown and I park 10min away from my office. I'm usually walking to my office at 5:30am and is constanlty walking past homeless sleeping on the sidewalks, people constanlty yellling and showing signs of mental illness. Do I feel safe? HELL NO! All it takes is one of these individuals to "snap" and just start attacking me all while my firearm is sitting at home in my safe!
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It's unfortunate but as long as the democrat sheep keep controlling the state, we will continue on doing the same old same old.
People vote in parties.
The political influence trickles down into all facets of government.
Sad indeed.
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What?! Are you high?!
Everyone knows that super Chief Kealoha and his police can save the day 100% of the time! Why do you think Hawaii has like zero percent crime?
Nobody needs ccw in Hawaii! All we need are hugs and Eskimo kisses to solve our problems!
LOL no need to fear Chief Kealoha is here!!!
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It's unfortunate but as long as the democrat sheep keep controlling the state, we will continue on doing the same old same old.
People vote in parties.
The political influence trickles down into all facets of government.
Sad indeed.
Keoni, who could step up to the plate to make a change? besides Bulaia... :shaka:
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Keoni, who could step up to the plate to make a change? besides Bulaia... :shaka:
I wish I had an answer to that.
As long as Hawaii continues their party only voting, no one will ever get the chance.
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HPD denied my request for a carry permit.
Bought myself a couple EDC knives.
Strictly for use as tools ;)
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I truly believe the ex-husband killed that woman. With this I would say that no CCW probably wouldn't have helped unless she was carrying 100% including within the home.
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HPD denied my request for a carry permit.
Bought myself a couple EDC knives.
Strictly for use as tools ;)
Did the same and bought several EDC knives as well.
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I truly believe the ex-husband killed that woman. With this I would say that no CCW probably wouldn't have helped unless she was carrying 100% including within the home.
Why do you believe that so strongly?
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Why do you believe that so strongly?
In most cases the persons who are killed know their killer. While we haven't been given the number of stab wounds the news report that I had heard made it sound like there were quite a few. When you see large numbers of stab wounds it typically indicates that there is a severe emotional connection with the stab victim.
The person accessing the bank account of the woman does so with a PIN.
Ex-husband is the person who found the body apparently it smelled as attested to by the guard that the ex-husband flagged down. If the body smells, then she had to have been dead for a few days. To me this indicates the body was moved after it had been decomposing for some time. Yet the access to the ATM was done only the night before the body was discovered. So it seems there is a gap of several days. The ex-husband indicated he was worried because he had not been able to contact his wife for some time (several days).
I would think that the ex-husband killed the wife, probably in some kind of emotional outburst then left her in the house. Took a day or two to figure out what to do, then came back then setup the ATM withdrawal. Goes back the next morning and wraps up and dumps the body outside so he makes the discovery as the worried ex-husband. One item he brought up was the air conditioner was running, so oh no someone might still be there. Lots of people leave their AC running it's nothing special. No reason for him to assume othewise and I don't know why a killer would bother to turn off the AC if he just killed someone.
HPD already says they think it's a guy. Probably trying to pressure the ex-husband a bit already. Notice that despite the ex cooperating with the police we have yet to even hear his voice on TV or see him make a statement? Also I'd lay money that the clothes used at the ATM were the victim's.
When HPD pulls stuff from the lady's car and it's got ex-husband DNA he's going to say, well we had a great relationship and I've ridden in the car before or it got transfered through my contact with her.
He's going to get arrested for murder 2.
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It's definitely not your typical robbery killing.
One weird thing is the location where the body is found and manner in which it's left.
And that the husband doesn't call 911 immediately.
He goes next door and tells a security guard there's a body in my wife's driveway, come with me to check it out.
Then he disturbs the crime scene with a witness watching.
Things that make you go Hmmm.
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Does that ATM perp resemble her ex in any way shape or form? Sorry I didn't research this at all. From what I'm guessing, not a match.
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You're probably right.
But no pictures of the husband to compare it to made public. ( For us sideline guys anyway )
HPD doesn't think the husband is a suspect, and they sound pretty convinced in the press releases.
But I still say he acted pretty strangely upon finding a dead body in his wife's driveway.
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Maybe now's the time we should all apply for CCW.
Cause: There's an unknown killer robber on the loose.
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Is this the husband making the report to HPD?
If so.........
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It's definitely not your typical robbery killing.
One weird thing is the location where the body is found and manner in which it's left.
And that the husband doesn't call 911 immediately.
He goes next door and tells a security guard there's a body in my wife's driveway, come with me to check it out.
Then he disturbs the crime scene with a witness watching.
Things that make you go Hmmm.
Compare your sequence of events to the news report ...
The woman's ex-husband had reportedly come to her house at around 7 p.m. and flagged down a security guard who worked at the building next door when he was unable to find her or her car.
The security guard said the man told her he last had dinner with her Saturday night and was worried about her. The security guard called police after the two of them reported smelling a foul odor and then discovered the body inside the carpet.
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Compare your sequence of events to the news report ...
The woman's ex-husband had reportedly come to her house at around 7 p.m. and flagged down a security guard who worked at the building next door when he was unable to find her or her car.
The security guard said the man told her he last had dinner with her Saturday night and was worried about her. The security guard called police after the two of them reported smelling a foul odor and then discovered the body inside the carpet.
From the Star-Advertiser, 7/25/13, p. A-8
Sabado, a security guard at the condo next door noticed a man trying to get her attention at the mauka gate next to the wall of the house.
She asked if he's OK and he tells her his wife has not been answering his calls and they just had dinner on Saturday night.
Then she says he told her " The car is gone, but there's a body in the driveway."
She went to the end of the driveway and saw something wrapped in what looked like a carpet or comforter.
The ex-husband then went over and lifted it up, then she could smell something.
She told the ex-husband to get away from the body.
She asks him if it was his ex-wife, and he replies " I don't know"
Police arrived later and found the woman's body bound and gagged.
(Paraphrased - Account was provided by the security guard Rebecca Sabado )
Maybe we're reading different reports.
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Is this the husband making the report to HPD?
If so.........
Yeah I just saw that. I'd bet a $20 Kim Chee II kalbi plate that guy turns out to be her ex. Pretty tall skinny guy.
From the Star-Advertiser, 7/25/13, p. A-8
Sabado, a security guard at the condo next door noticed a man trying to get her attention at the mauka gate next to the wall of the house.
She asked if he's OK and he tells her his wife has not been answering his calls and they just had dinner on Saturday night.
Then she says he told her " The car is gone, but there's a body in the driveway."
She went to the end of the driveway and saw something wrapped in what looked like a carpet or comforter.
The ex-husband then went over and lifted it up, then she could smell something.
She told the ex-husband to get away from the body.
She asks him if it was his ex-wife, and he replies " I don't know"
Police arrived later and found the woman's body bound and gagged.
(Paraphrased - Account was provided by the security guard Rebecca Sabado )
Maybe we're reading different reports.
Yup that's the report I remember.
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It's definitely not your typical robbery killing.
One weird thing is the location where the body is found and manner in which it's left.
And that the husband doesn't call 911 immediately.
He goes next door and tells a security guard there's a body in my wife's driveway, come with me to check it out.
Then he disturbs the crime scene with a witness watching.
Things that make you go Hmmm.
Indeed. Funny how we've had no news saying the interior of the house was turned upside down. Also pretty interesting the killer/robber locked the door on the way out, but left the AC on.
Anyhwhoooo...........on a related front............anyone think that CCW would have saved Brittany Jane Royal? Same case I don't really think so. Hard to be prepped 24 hours a day to shoot someone you know:
http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/22937351/dateline-to-investigate-murder-of-brittany-jane-royal (http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/22937351/dateline-to-investigate-murder-of-brittany-jane-royal)
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Maybe we're reading different reports.
Probably...
http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/22916649/police-investigate (http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/22916649/police-investigate)