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Legal and Activism / Re: SCOTUS takes NY 2A case
« on: February 16, 2019, 05:46:37 PM »
People have been arrested just for having a gun in a locked case at the airport while changing flights and layovers.  TSA called the PD on them and they were arrested.  So if you're traveling thru NY, make sure the airline always handles your suit case/gun case.  Or don't book a flight that will require you to handle them.  As in you get your luggage back because the layover is 12 hours or something.  If your flight is cancelled/delayed and the airline puts you up in a hotel, make sure you don't collect your luggage.  Tell them that they can hold on to it and leave it with them.  Or when you're checking in again, BOOM arrested.

IIRC, it was a NFL player who was arrested.  He has his George CCW also.  And luckily he had the money to fight it in court and win.  It was on the national news.

Same goes with CA, but probably not as bad.  They have a list of their "approved handguns".  I overheard a story of a guy traveling with his VP9 to Alaska and had a layover.  Never left the airport, but had to check in again and the TSA guy said "you know this isn't on the CA list of approved handguns and I could have you arrested".  Guy had no clue.  But TSA was cool and let him continue on.  I never looked up CA's laws on traveling thru, so maybe the TSA was just trying to puff his chest. IDK.

What happens in NY and it happens quite frequently is that people leave the state to overnight in NJ for their layovers, the second they re-enter the state they are "considered" illegal for breaking the in transit protocols.  There are cases pending for that and people sitting in jail over it because they are considering NY CA check in to be a "start" when the bags are checked.  They tried to do it to someone who never left the airport and that did not fly with the courts but all others have.  The problem is getting cases into the higher courts. 

One case that HI may be interested in is how the courts viewed the licensing fees in Chicago.  They were essentially considered a poll tax because the fees were so high it made it impossible for people to exercise their rights.  A friend was assigned to HI for awhile, he said it took over half a day to fill out the forms and the cost was a bit extreme. 

Here is the list of cases that SAF is involved in.  Whenever a state successfully gets a case into the court both the NRA and SAF jump into them, that is assuming SAF is not the initial to bring the case to court.  SAF  was the primary to Heller, not the NRA as everyone thinks. 
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Legal and Activism / Re: SCOTUS takes NY 2A case
« on: February 15, 2019, 11:25:34 AM »
Not to jump in on you guys but I wandered on this thread and thought I would clarify a few things as well as my 2 cents.  Per who pays, typically New York State Rifle & Pistol Association, NRA, Second Amendment Foundation and many times Shooters Committee On Political Education.  At what time I was a card carrying member of all of them.  Now I am just a life member of NRA and SAF. 

How to get a basic handgun license in NY, every county is different but for the most You fill out the application, provide your 3-5 references (many counties have extreme restrictions on who can be your reference), get your fingerprints.  Applications and references are reviewed by the Sheriff and it is then submitted to a judge.  Some jurisdictions you must go before the judge.  If required (most counties require) you have 1 yr to receive your training and you are required to have a gun registered on your license within that year.  Concealed carry is another step.  NYC and a few other jurisdictions require you to show NEED and suffice it to say you still have to be well connected.  My county just required a second level of training. 

Where I see this going is over federal transportation laws of firearms and possibly tie it into commerce.  We can all fly into or drive through NYC with a locked and unloaded firearm while in transport to a destination where we also legally possess a gun.  NYC residents do have camps and summer homes in upstate NY.  There are some great gun ranges and clubs just outside of NYC.  Hunters CAN transport their firearms.  Other than the Federal Law is written for Interstate transport and this case applies to intrastate I think they will simply apply the one to the other as Interstate law supersedes intrastate. 

The day the Senate takes reciprocity to a vote, it ends all of this.  It passed the House prior to the elections and is waiting on the Senate.  -D

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