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General Discussion / Re: CCW Wait Times???
« on: November 19, 2024, 08:23:18 PM »Mines came in the mail today, approx 115 days.
I submitted a passport photo during application. Does that mean I need to provide another upon pickup?
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Mines came in the mail today, approx 115 days.
I submitted a passport photo during application. Does that mean I need to provide another upon pickup?
I thought the new 2024 firearm laws were statewide. I guess the different counties still have the power to make their own rules. Oh well.
Correct. Maybe I should have made that clear
In the beginning. It is on Big Island. I don’t see why that would Matter tho because the new law is a statewide law isn’t it? Their website even states the LTC is valid statewide
I agree they should already know, then again HPD doesn’t want the public to carry so they will probably say its our responsibility to tell them we are renewing. When I dropped off my application the girl was very friendly. She accepted my app as if I was applying for the first time. I wouldn't expect her to know whether I was renewing or applying for the first time. She didn’t ask me a single question. Just made sure all my paperwork was filled out. It wasn’t until after I told her i was renewing my existing LTC that she told me it would only cost $50 i didn’t catch her name but she was really nice and would like to give her a shoutout. She noticed one discrepancy on my application that she didn’t have to tell me about, but she did and I was able to make the correction. Both of my pistols are 9mm. The glock registration says the caliber is 9x19, the sig registration says the caliber is 9mm. When I filled out my application I wrote down 9mm for the glock pistol caliber. She said the new chief is so strict if the application doesn’t match the registration exactly, the person in charge will deny my application and make me reapply all over again. Luckily I printed out 2 copies and was able to re-fill out that one page for the glock and listed the caliber as 9x19 to match my registration. Crazy how 9x19 and 9mm is the same thing but the chief will deny the app for something that minor. Really appreciate this woman for taking the time to read through my entire application to make sure it shouldn’t get pushed back. Its a good thing I didn’t catch her name because I wouldn’t be surprised if she got in trouble for helping me out.
Yes. Paid $150 for 4 years CCW. I was told that I can add as much handgun I want within the 4 years period but all will expire at the same date. HPD said LTC overlapping is not possible with new 2024 law.
Renewed my 2023 approved handgun this June and got approved after 69 days but not as renewal but as new application. I am not sure if we have a renewal process in place. I was surprised that HPD just added the newly approved CCW to my current CCW card issued this January 2024, so both handgun has the same expiration date now. Sad because I thought I could overlap each handgun expiration.
Does anyone have a link to the new PTA process for handguns that isn’t 32 pages long?
When I try to google, I get the old PTA process where you need the handgun info when applying for a handgun PTA. Also found a 32 page document on the 30 day permit but my eyes glaze over just looking at it
I also tried to search thru this forum but my search fu must be weak or I’m blind. Probably both….
I heard that now you can apply for a permit with no pistol info and the permit is good for like 30 days…..so sort of like a rifle permit.
Can the new handgun permit be used to register multiple handguns…..similar to a rifle permit? Or is it still 1 handgun per permit? Ie. 4 handguns = 4 permits.
HPD website isn’t updated
https://www.honolulupd.org/police-services/firearms/
https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol03_Ch0121-0200D/HRS0134/HRS_0134-0002.htm
A 32 page document on the new 30 day permit
https://www.honolulupd.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/Rules-of-the-Chief-2024-final.pdf
But why, in this case, was he detained so long? He wouldn't be a flight risk, would he? He wouldn't seek retaliation, would he? I'm sure his firearm was taken away from him. Couldn't he be released on his own recognizance? It's not like he's a full blown criminal with past convictions.
So I learned the cops can't hold a person more than 48 hours without charging him with something. You also stated that the full detention must be justifiable.
What would that be? Even an idiot like me could see he shot Silva to stop him from killing people and destroying his personal property.
Also this has nothing to do with stand your ground. The only difference is you can shoot without retreating if it can be done safely and is not at the residence.
Not only was the incident at Carnates residence, but people were getting shot at the time and not able to retreat safely.

How far in advance before expiration can a person their ccw license?
How long have you folks waited to receive your CCW Permit? When did you apply?
Could someone also fill me in on the process? I completed both the Basic Firearms class and CCW class. Should receive affidavits soon.
I understand that I need to go in person to apply and there’s a checklist but the permits need to be picked up? Mailed?
Hopefully others can use this post to get a sense of wait times.
Thanks!
You're wrong.
" If the chief of police does not grant or deny a submitted application for a concealed carry license within one hundred twenty days following the date of the application, the application shall be deemed denied as of that date for purposes of subsection (k)."
I just read the law. It states if its an incomplete application after 120 days its dead. Could find anything else besides that. Am I missing something? 🤙
If I find a rifle on another island from a private seller and use an ffl there to ship it to an ffl on Oahu can I register the firearm online or will they see it as a private sale and have to register in person?
So, you're telling me HPD doesn't know how to pick up the phone and immediately contact the registering party so they can process the submission?
I guess that's not surprising, since they can't properly communicate with healthcare providers in order to receive the critical mental health evaluations they need -- without the provider asking the patient to had deliver it to the station.
It's not that I give HPD more or less credit than the seller. It's that almost all private sales are already registered with them -- they had all that info on the weapon and who owns it in their files. Handguns required permits -- which includes all the same info whether it's a private sale or FFL transfer. The FFL is directed by statute to keep and maintain proper records. If they are sending erroneous info to the police station when they make a sale, that's easy enough to fix. People straighten up when their license to operate a business is on the line -- something the FFL seems to be using now to shut down FFLs all over.
Again, I don't think those posting here made mistakes. If they did, they probably would have included the rejection/correction aspect in their comments. They aren't bringing in out-of-state firearms they already own, because those require in-person inspections. If everyone here is seeing a 2-4 month delay in getting their registration, there's only one answer: it's intentional.
HPD is telling people they can't USE their firearms until they get the registration in hand. I've registered dozens of times, and I've never been told that at the window. This is obviously being done because they know the registrations are taking too long. It's deductive reasoning, of course. No actual evidence or whistleblowers to prove it.
i think if it's not intentional, then they are just incompetent. I can get a driver's license mailed to me in 2 weeks or less. I can renew my vehicle registration online and receive it in the mail in a week or so. Every company and government agency that deals with money has procedures in place to expedite these kinds of transactions. The only reason it;s so complicated and error-prone is HPD doesn't care to make it better. The solutions exist. All they have to do is work smarter.
But, these are the same folks who waited until months passed to try and create new procedures schedule to take effect Jan 1. i refuse to accept the status quo as an excuse for denying a right.
I don't see how an online registration needs to be "sent back." If whoever is doing the manual entry at HPD has the correct information -- else why would they even know there's an error -- there's no reason they can't make the correction themselves and send the owner a corrected copy.
Rejecting the application and requiring corrections they already know of is just an unnecessary delay.
If it's an FFL transfer, HPD already received the official description of the firearm from the seller. If it's a private transfer for a handgun, they have the information from the permit they approved. If there's a mismatch between the previous paperwork and the registration submittal, they have the means to correct it themselves.
That applies to knowing the local FFL vs. online dealer name, serial numbers, models, calibers, etc..
How many times does the buyer and the FFL need to tell HPD all that info?
The only circumstances I can think fits the bill where there's no prior information submitted is for an out-of-state transfer or private long gun transfer. All the rest should be a piece of cake.
JMHO
The real question is, did any of the members sharing their stories and delays here experience any "returned" applications for correction? IF not, then the delays are not all error-caused.
What's worse is, using online registration was supposed to be a time-saver. It's crazy that the automated process takes weeks longer than the in-person, manual process.
I'm wondering if HPD is just computer illiterate?
I think it could be something like this:
- my daughter gets hunters ed certificate
- she gets the long gun permit
- she registers the ar and ar9
He doesn’t get a permit - he is not buying a firearm
- gets hunters Ed certificate
- goes to hpd with my daughter
- they bring existing registration, hunters Ed card, marriage certificate, his license
- don’t bring ar’s
- does fbi check - rap back? - fingerprint
- pays whatever fees
- get a new registration with both their names
What's worse is, using online registration was supposed to be a time-saver. It's crazy that the automated process takes weeks longer than the in-person, manual process.
I'm wondering if HPD is just computer illiterate?