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Is there a public session for this sense senate did not accept the bill?
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Legal and Activism / Re: FIRE MISSION HB392 DUE BEFORE 3/18 AT 3PM
« on: April 14, 2025, 04:10:27 PM »
When it goes to Greens desk.  There is no effective date on the bill, so it's when he signs it.

But at the same time, every gun in Hawaii will become illegal because federally licensed manufacturers do not register their serial numbers.

" ""Ghost gun" means a firearm, including a firearm frame or firearm receiver, that has not been imprinted with a serial number registered with a federally licensed manufacturer.  "Ghost gun" does not include a firearm that has been rendered permanently inoperable.""

So what does that mean for all of our firearms?

What about specifically for firearms that were legally serialized to comply with the previous laws and registered with HPD
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They went full California and Colorado ban here and it’s already passed public hearing this is serious if they bring it to vote with the democrat majority it will pass and nobody will be made aware until it’s too late.
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Posted in legal as well but this affects almost all of us:

Looks like the bill was modified after all public sessions to include a ban on all semi auto rifles and magazines. This was purposefully deceptive to the public to do it after all public sessions. They went full Colorado ban on us!

Call and urge the democrat speaker and vice speaker now tell them it was deceptive and urge them not to bring it to the floor for a vote.

Democrat speaker Nadine can shelf this: (808) 586-6100
Vice speaker Linda could also shelf this deceptive ban:(808) 586-6220

Otherwise you might be a criminal if this passes.
https://m.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1012100074352206

https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/session/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=401&year=2025
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Looks like the bill was modified after all public sessions to include a ban on all semi auto rifles and magazines. This was purposefully deceptive to the public to do it after all public sessions. They went full Colorado ban on us!

Call and urge the democrat speaker and vice speaker now tell them it was deceptive and urge them not to bring it to the floor for a vote.

Democrat speaker Nadine can shelf this: (808) 586-6100
Vice speaker Linda could also shelf this deceptive ban:(808) 586-6220

Otherwise you might be a criminal if this passes.
https://m.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1012100074352206

https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/session/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=401&year=2025
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Legal and Activism / Re: FIRE MISSION HB392 DUE BEFORE 3/18 AT 3PM
« on: March 31, 2025, 05:29:19 AM »
Is there any way to know when this becomes a law?
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Legal and Activism / Re: Bow and Arrow Backyard Legal
« on: May 10, 2024, 09:12:39 AM »
I did speak with Hifico via email and this not legal advice but they said:

From what I’m aware, there are no law that would prevent it. The only ones I could think of that may have some validity would be the general reckless endangerment laws.  These would require some amount of risk and a complaint to be valid.

Make sure that you’re doing it in a way that the arrow can’t leave your property and that no one else’s safety or property is put at risk. I would probably grab an archery net to hang behind the target as an added layer of risk mitigation.
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Legal and Activism / Bow and Arrow Backyard Legal
« on: May 07, 2024, 05:53:39 PM »
If someone was to draw a once in a lifetime archery elk tag and want to practice in their backyard, what would be the legalities in Oahu?

Is a bow and arrow a firearm by law?
If it is not a firearm by law and there was a safe setup could one practice in their yard?
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General Discussion / Re: Khsc open on weekdays again?
« on: March 05, 2024, 03:52:19 PM »
Chinese Gun Club is holding their 1st match since the closure on Wednesday 6 March at 9am. They have received the permit and can operate the line at 9am. I'll try to take some pictures between the stages of fire.

How are you able to join it?
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I sent another round of emails today.

Oregon just had success getting their aw ban and mag  overturned in court for the exact same reason as it turned many gun owners into criminals. Could we do the same thing here?



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Legal and Activism / Re: Honolulu Chiefs New Rules Meeting 1/9/24 @ 10am.
« on: January 09, 2024, 12:31:26 PM »
Submitted!
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Hunting / Re: New Zealand Roar
« on: May 04, 2023, 11:03:03 AM »
That looks like an awesome trip! Congrats!

Did you use a guide or lodge out there? I would like to learn more.
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Legal and Activism / Re: ***FIRE MISSION*** HB984 due by 3/30 10am
« on: March 26, 2023, 08:54:32 PM »
Submitted testimony
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Hunting / Pineapple Brothers Hunts
« on: February 01, 2023, 03:27:06 PM »
I had a trip booked in 2021 and it got cancelled so I am rebooking this year. Has anyone had any experience with them?

They are suggesting hotels for the stay and my buddy and I live on Oahu and our wives would kill us if we stayed at the resorts without them. Could we camp somewhere instead? I have never been to Lanai.
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Is anybody local tracking this case? https://gunrightsfoundation.org/awb-mag/hawaii-assault-pistol-and-magazine-ban-lawsuit/

It looks like it is going to court next week:
https://dockets.justia.com/docket/hawaii/hidce/1:2022cv00404/161244?amp

I wonder if this helps the magazine ban being proposed in the 2023 legislature since there is currently litigation pending.
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Legal and Activism / Re: Mag ban case 1/20/23
« on: October 26, 2022, 02:35:03 PM »
The Duncan v Bunta California mag case is supposed to wrap up in December. Will that have any impact for the Hawaii case?

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Reloading / Re: Powder Valley (FYI)
« on: October 17, 2022, 05:30:33 PM »
Group buy!  Who is in?

dogman?
808Hunta?
Rhed?

 ;D

I would love to join a group buy. I am interested in Varget, CFE Pistol, & H4350
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Reloading / Re: Primers and Current Pricing
« on: October 17, 2022, 02:43:04 PM »
At the gun show 2 weeks ago, I saw a few Small Rifle Primers and Small Pistol Primers for $160 - $170 per thousand.
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Events / Re: Aloha “Great Guns” Gun Show
« on: September 30, 2022, 04:24:56 PM »
Any reloading vendors?

Interested in srp, varget, cfe pistol, berger 168g 7mm rem mag, Dillon stuff
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General Discussion / Re: HPD Walk Ins for Registration
« on: May 06, 2021, 09:16:46 AM »
Let's hope to end ALL the BS


HiFiCo---
HPD Confirms Intent to Violate HIFICO Settlement Agreement.

Last week we bought you the news that HPD intended to open for walk-ins on May 10th, Today they confirmed via their website that this is true.

From HonoluluPD.org;  "Walk-in registration for firearms will begin on Monday, May 10, 2021, at the HPD Firearms Section at 801 S. Beretania Street. Registrations will be limited to no more than 50 persons each day.... Appointments for firearms permits will continue to be online only.
No walk-ins will be accepted for firearms permits."

As you can see, HPD does intend to restrict access to the department based on the type of service needed and only to a limited number of people.

Right before the pandemic started, Hawaii Firearms Coalition Director Todd Yukutake filed a lawsuit against HPD and the State of Hawaii, alleging that its implementation of the permitting and registration laws was too restrictive in availability. With limited hours the scheme was burdensome and unconstitutional.

The City and County (HPD) quickly settled and in doing so, agreed that in addition to its regular opening hours  (8:00 a.m. to 4:00 p.m)  they would open from 7:45am until 6:30pm every Wednesday.  Not only that, but any person who was in line by 6:30pm will get assisted before the department closes.

Over the last year, HIFICO has let HPD get away with not complying with the agreement due to all other government buildings also being closed. Now that City Halls are open for walk-ins, and HPD has acknowledged that it can safely do the same, we intend to have them follow the legal agreement.

If HPD can open for walk-in registrations, they can also open for permit applications. The only reason they wouldn't do so is that they see their interest (in registering firearms) as greater than the public interest (in bearing arms). There is no medical basis behind this decision.

HIFICO has consulted with our attorneys on the Yukatake case. Should HPD go ahead with this restrictive plan, they will begin taking action to make sure HPD complies with its contractual obligations.


Great how do we get this case started?
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