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I would rather have $600 in cash.............
lol
I drawed you graff.
the others... well let's not worry about them 
I believe you mean that the equation stays the same. 1 MOA at 100 yards is aprroximately 1", 1 MOA at 300 yards is approximately 3", 1 MOA at 1000 yards is approximately 10". Therefore, a 1/4 MOA group at 1000 yards is around 2.5".?
Group size of 2.5" @ 1000 yards is world class. Heavy benchrest shooters have a hard time doing that.
but only at 100yards so wind wasn't much a factor.
are you sure? your scope is like 1500... lol
i was just testing it for vortex 
Check out 6mmAR.com and search for "Robert Whitley and what makes an accurate AR".
Come down and shoot at Puuloa 200, 300, and 600 yards. Bring your expensive AR or budget AR. You can spend as little or as much as you want on your AR, in the end all that matters is consisency and reliability.
F-class with optics, ten ring is 1 MOA and the X ring is 1/2 MOA. I seen some posts that was saying that a 1/4 gun will shoot 1/4 at 500 or 600 even 1000. Not true at all. A lot of other factors come into play at longer distance. With an AR you need the right ammunition to make it to 600. 55 grain ball will not do. An AR with a standard length barrel and standard quick twists has no chance of 1K unless you are running WAY hot.(danger zone hot!). A .308 will barely make it to 1000 yards BTW. Wind will become a huge factor at these distances as well.
So instead of arguing, shooting groups at point blank range(100yards is point blank for a rifle with a optic IMHO), and speculating, folks should come out and experience a little 'MID Range' shooting at Puuloa. It will certainly bring some things into perspective.
...expensive or cheap...in the end all that matters is consisency and reliability.
but i think we need clarification on the MOA thing. i was the one that said 1/4 MOA at 1000 yards.
ill use em. ill keep them in a box to throw occationally in with my good ammo when im doing drills so i will be forced to do malfunction drills!
^^^I built a varmint gun. Didn't start off as an expensive build. I ended up with a Shilen barrel, DD kit, Geiselle DMR trigger, etc.
Well I take that sucker out to shoot it and had a jam fest. Come to find out my reloads weren't what they should have been. A bit too far off on the resizing.
Well I throw that very same ammo into my cheapy AR and it feeds and goes boom. So for me, my sub moa varmint rifle did not even fire, but that very same exact ammo was fine with my other cheap AR. So yeah, I don't believe expensive firearms always mean better accuracy/precision.
............and yet you'd never hear of a Chevy guy dropping a Ford motor into their car..................
the "occasional" exception to the rule is always there. as i said, if you your ar is a "shooter..." awesome! keep it!
i think the problem in this discussion is some peeps are too prideful to say that yes... everytime a good point is made against me... what do i say? i say, "hey your right! " but whats funny... is the points you guys bring up are factors yes... but they dont give reason the the OPs actual question... "why is a $2000 AR better then a $600 one? and the only reason i keep going at this, is because it seams like the majority of you are one of those guys that is saying... "im a dame good shooter... and i will outshoot all these lil wipersnapers with there $2000 ARs!"
one request, can we stop with the "... is better than a Mustang"? I get it!
Feed your $4,000 AR junk ammo and it will shoot like.............well.............junk................
It's not a simple argument. There are points made both ways about this situation.
and that is ANOTHER DIFFERENT DISCUSSION
im not doubting your abiblitys...
lol and if you cant see the difference in your groups... dont worry... you will when i shoot my groups lol
a fool and his money are soon parted......... then that same fool is at the range with a 2k ar with a 1.5 k scope and pmags shooting wolf ammo
i think the original intent of this thread was more towards people pushing highend ars on new shooters that dont know any better.... but people taking it personnally is way more interesting
out... lol. here is my foot.... driving into my mouth again... lol)