If you knew Kate, you probably wouldn't be spewing your vitriol then feign respect. Don't be fooled by her drunk college pic....Her "bubble" is that of a well educated soldier who knows military law, Army regs, policies, and procedures.  But seeing as only a few took issue enough to comment on what she wrote...Perhaps you've completely misinterpreted or just don't understand. I read it as arguing or politicizing the matter is pointless. And I'd have to agree because capitalizing on a tragedy to push an agenda is despicable. It is tactic better left to the gun grabbers, we are better than that.

And just FYI: Policies and restrictions on the personally owned firearms of service members has been an installation commanders prerogative long before 1993.  Clinton only standardized directives that started in the mid/late '80's.

spewing vitriol? 
feign respect?
take it easy with the hyperbolic melodrama.

1) I'm using tapatalk so I dont see her pic nor her gender; my comments were based solely on the content of the post. 

2) The only vitriol spewed was towards politicians and lawmakers; not towards the poster; unless you consider colloquially asking someone if they live in a bubble, vitriolic. 

3) regarding the bubble.........presumably, anyone on a forum dedicated to preservation of the Second Amendment should be acutely aware of how gun-control politicians, lawmakers and lobbyists collectively create circumstances in which murderers can commit their crimes against people who have been rendered defenseless by the gun-control agenda.

therefore, someone on this forum stating that the shooter at Fort Hood is solely responsible, and that someone like me, also blaming politicians et al is "stupid", must be either stupid themselves; grotesquely naïve; or just a trolling bleeding heart liberal statist, trying to circle the wagons to protect those who are additionally responsible for these acts.

considering all those possible options, I concluded 'the poster' was naïve. and a naive person - one who refuses to recognize uncomfortable realities; one who is unaware of how the gun-control agenda is precisely why people are left defenseless against mass shooters - is someone you might say lives in a bubble. if that's not the case they should've spoken more carefully. I can only response to what was said.

anyways, three recent mass murders on domestic military bases; one ironically stopped by a civilian police officer; all because of DOD bureaucrats' policies; and I'm stupid to point that out? 

and American soldiers - in a friggin war zone - murdered by 'friendlies' because of the same DOD bureaucrats' policies; and I should only blame the shooter - lest I be stupid - as she clearly stated?  please.

4) if the poster is as educated and knowledgeable as you say, and didn't mean what they wrote, then once again, they should've written something different; they should've chosen their words more thoughtfully.

5) contrary to what you said, I didn't misunderstand her at all; I read what she wrote and responded to precisely that. you on the other hand are presuming to read between the lines and extract a different meaning from her otherwise very clear post.

6) stating that I am politicizing a tragedy - as liberals do - is wrong and out-of-place emotionalization. if you both think that pointing out the gun-control insanity of disarming soldiers on a military base, and essentially telling them to hide under their school desks when the shit hits the fan, is just "despicable / politicizing / capitalizing" on a tragedy, you are BOTH naïve - if that is more palatable then "living in a bubble".

saying what I did....to a victims family member? that would be out of place. but saying it here; on a 2a forum; where people go specifically to intelligently voice their disgust at the pervasive, deadly effects of the gun-control agenda?  that is precisely appropriate.  I don't react to these events by platitudinously suggesting we ignore the 'cause', and rather gather in a circle to hold hands and pray in a candle-lit vigil - I get infuriated at those who force us into victimhood.

7) curiously, you even want to split hairs to seemingly defend the indefensible effects of the gun-control agenda in our military: you said Clinton only standardized directives that were started in the 80s regarding "personally owned firearms". for the record the idea dates to the last year of Bush #1, but it was a lefty gun-control idea and was codified explicitly by/under Clinton. his DOD forbade soldiers from carrying personal ('civilian') weapons on military bases; from freely carrying their military issued weapons; and even made it virtually impossible for commanders to issue weapons to soldiers for personal defense. The DOD language even includes similar insane gun-control bullshit you hear in HRS requirements;  words like "...unless a credible and specific threat against personnel in that region..." read it!

not withstanding being 'called' stupid, when I said "with all due respect", that was not feigned; that was genuine.  I didn't know anything about the poster; I didn't think they were being malicious or offensive; I thought the statements were coming from a person with a good heart; but were nonetheless naïve and inexplicable from someone on a pro-Second Amendment forum.

again.....with all due respect.

Responsibility for what happened rests squarely on the shooter, Ivan Lopez.

We should all accept this fact, say a prayer for those killed or wounded, and be thankful it wasn't much worse. Arguing procedures, policies, and politics is plain stupid.

are you for real?
"Arguing procedures, policies, and politics is plain stupid."?
"Responsibility for what happened rests squarely on the shooter, Ivan Lopez."?
what bubble do you live in?
sick, counter-intuitive procedures and policies are set the way they are, such that innocent people wind up maimed or dead (civilian AND military)....precisely BECAUSE of the mass hysteria of the f'ing leftist gun-control agenda; an agenda that is so pervasively infectious and sick that politicians and military bureaucrats bow to it and impose it upon civilians and military.........MILITARY!!! an entity that is fundamentally about trained, ARMED soldiers!  and they impose it SOLELY to pander to and garner votes from lobbyists and constituents; knowing it will NEVER make people safer; KNOWING it will ONLY do the opposite; knowingly putting their careers before our lives!!!  a most loathsome evil!
so no. NO!! the responsibility rests not only on Lopez but equally upon those who make policy/law that disarms people - soldier or civilian - and allows them to be helplessly murdered DEAD! 
the dead; the murderer; the politicians and bureaucrats who create the environment that allows the murderer to carry out his act and leaves the victims unable to defend themselves; they are all inextricably linked, and the murderers and law/policy/procedure makers are equally guilty!
just ask Suzanna Hupp. the only person in the history of such grotesque events, who ever had the 'balls' to say this to politicians'/legislators' faces!
with all due respect.

"no concealed carry on base"
Isn't there a sense of irony in that statement? We obviously were required to be armed overseas in Iraq, Afghanistan...but not on a military installation?

actually, even in Afghanistan, in a war zone, when on bases, our guys are forbidden from carrying their weapons. and they suffer for it. recall all the the "green-on-blue" attacks? marines murdered by the afghan 'police officers' they were training?  two days in a row in 2012, just to cite a couple?

and panetta and his security team disarming virtually an entire base when he visited Afghanistan?

anyway, the no-carry policy on US domestic military bases dates back to 1993; it was one of Bill Clinton's first acts of anti-gun madness, and all the poor Ford Hood and Navy yard murdered have him to thank for it.

i'm not sure if it went away during Bush and came back during Obama or if it's been in place since 1993, but I figured it's worth mentioning so we don't forget one of the many gifts we got from Bill Clinton.

That's just plain meannnn......

Heyyyyy! "Q" for Queer!
I see Tinker Bell took a break from ball garglin just long enough to type a lame comeback! 

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Thanks for the kind words everyone.
Still no luck, but I'm hoping.

As 2aHawaii's resident LE defender, Q will never concede any impropriety, let alone Constitutional violation, by LE.  He is precisely the LE analogue of DC politicians in that they both condescend to anyone with a critical opinion of them, predicated on 'they just don't understand how things work'; that no one but their brethren should be permitted to have an opinion on their matters; that anyone with a critical opinion of them is hubristic to even THINK they could pass judgement; that the masses should kiss their feet in gratitude for their very existence; that we should give thanks they exist to reluctantly care for our undeserving selves.  In his posts he bathes is his smug elitism and mocks all the low-life bottom-feeders that dare to question the hallowed halls of LE.  Never a substantive explanation as to why LE was justified in their actions.  Not even the eloquent, learned rebuttal of his elitism by HiCarry would solicit an intelligent response.  He is as implacable as the most pious statist is say on gun control, and as much in complete defiance of reality.  What fine LE material he is - what a cliche he is.

Storm shifted north, and now is now on a direct path to Oahu.

I heard them say that this morning too. But I think they need glasses.
See bottom right color time lapse on this link.
http://www.instanthawaii.com/cgi-bin/hawaii?Weather

Cougar 8045

The 80 is her age, the 45 is years since the operation.

She has nuts now.

Yikes!!!
My visual has been firmly shattered!

Lol