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Staged or not, I would have grabbed me a bottle of that high-end alcohol, crawl under the table and enjoy myself.Yeah, I noticed all of the "journalist" grabbing bottles before they left.
Show me where I said you mentioned OTC drugs.
The first words of your reply were "First, over-the-counter drugs" which implies my comment was about OTC
I was establishing a point of fact to show that many drugs we use without a prescription are available to the public and can be abused.
Again, my post had nothing to do with abuse other than big pharma again promoting a dangerous/unhealthy drug for profit.
This was a tie-in for the next fact -- that the DOJ categorizes drugs as a given schedule type based on it's risk of abuse. It has nothing to do with medicinal benefits, how lethal abusing the substance can be, or other criteria people tend to argue for and against when debating the legalization of pot.
And again, drug scheduling is done by the Controlled Substances Act (CSA) and U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA), not DOJ
That is true, but the topic is about reclassification of cannabus. It's completely reasonable to assume your comments were made within that scope and context.
My comments were in relation to the scope and context of reclassification of Ibogaine from Schedule 1 to Schedule 3 as is being done (been done) with marijuana.
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By the way, have you ever heard of someone overdosing on DMT, psilocin, psilocybin, mescaline, DOM, Nexus, 25I, MDA, or LSD ?
Now you're doing what I just described: arguing about overdoses leading to death as opposed to the potential risk of abusing the substance. Two different criteria. If we used lethality of drugs to assign schedule classifications, it wouldn't matter.
No, I'm not "arguing" about " overdoses leading to death as opposed to the potential risk of abusing the substance." I'm arguing that Big Pharma is promoting a drug with greater dangerous side affects than cheaper more organic substances. And you did not answer my question
You want to argue that drug abuse is not as bad if the risk of death is less? I don't want to put words in your virtual mouth, so correct me if I'm wrong. There are plenty of consequences of drug abuse that don't include death: financial ruin, destroying marriages and other relationships, ancillary crimes like theft or prostitution to support their habit, impact on the work force, and so on.
And again again, I'm not "arguing" about drug abuse, I'm arguing that Big Pharma is promoting a drug with greater dangerous side affects than cheaper more organic substances.
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And masturbation is a gateway habit for teens. Once they abuse themselves enough times,
they may start seeking out more dangerous sexual deviance to achieve the same level of euphoria.
You lost any credibility you might have had by going off the rails and showing you aren't serious about anything you posted.
The medical establishment has known since the 1960s that guided LSD trips in a clinical setting can cure alcoholism and all sorts of other mental illnesses, but the profit is marginal compared with a lifetime of prescription drugs and therapy that goes nowhere.
Some very deep pockets have a tremendous amount to lose, which is why they are rolling out the fear porn against Ibogaine.
Personally I would prefer more fully-functional citizens and fewer mass shooters on SSRIs.
The pharmaceutical and psychiatric industries are terrified because this could mean the end to their broken windows profit model.
No, they are the ones wishing to provide Ibogaine
They are throwing everything they have trying to prevent alternatives to their expensive poison, so expect a lot of fear propaganda.
My description was the affects of Ibogaine, I would promote the ones I mentioned as they do not have the bad side affects.
BTW cough syrup and air freshener are also gateway drugs, but there's no prohibition because they don't have the potential to replace half the stuff in your medicine cabinet.
Or my Sharpie Marker !
First, over-the-counter drugs are not included in the DOJ Drug Schedule lists. Some OTC drugs do present a risk of abuse, such as taking more than directed or using it for problems unrelated to the drug's intended purpose. We see tha with cold and cough medicines.
Where did I mention OTC drugs ?
Ibogaine is classified as a Schedule1 drug. Almost all controlled psychedelic drugs in the country are Schedule I controlled substances as of 2026, with a few exceptions
Second, the DOJ schedules are supposed to be based on the potential for abuse of a drug, not really whether it's a hallucinogen etc.
But hallucinogens are what my post is about, not DOJ schedules or potential abuse.
By the way, have you ever heard of someone overdosing on DMT, psilocin, psilocybin, mescaline, DOM, Nexus, 25I, MDA, or LSD ?
Not doing something stupid and dying (Look Ma, I can fly !) but actually dying from too much of the above ?
Besides, drug scheduling is done by the Controlled Substances Act (CSA) and U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA), not DOJ
Pot is still considered a gateway drug for teens. Once they abuse that enough times, they may start seeking out more dangerous drugs to achieve the same level of euphoria.
And masturbation is a gateway habit for teens. Once they abuse themselves enough times, they may start seeking out more dangerous sexual deviance to achieve the same level of euphoria.
My friends who do it beg to differ....
There was a docu on shroom and a guy who had constant migraines. No RX helped him, he took shroom cause someone mentioned it. Although he was tripping balls, his migraine was gone and for days. IIRC he does shrooms once a weeek, but has to factor in his face melting for a few ours after consuming.
trump just announced on truth social that iran agreed to open strait
2 week ceasefire...
