They're already calling for the outright ban on modern sporting rifles with SB 2626

I know. I'm just saying the DemoncRATS will use this event as a prime example why they need to pass their unconstitutional bullshit. The house is still smoldering and they're going to cite this a reason why there's a moral imperative to cede more of our rights to these authoritarians.

Some animals are more equal than others.

Well, there's the one mosque located in Manoa valley. If they're ISIS sympathizers here, chances are some of them attend that mosque.

Case in point. Here's a Muslim that has been rejected by the mosque leader(s): http://www.hawaiifreepress.com/ArticlesMain/tabid/56/ID/4351/Brookings-Muslims-expel-reformer-from-Manoa-mosque-claim-Arabs-discovered-Hawaii.aspx

Yup, The last time I went the Officer took the letter, said it was good for all future purchases. Filled the normal paper work, Turned in  paperwork officer took fresh fingerprint and took picture. pointed to pick up dates, So I went today to get permit. officer behind window said needed to get it in exact wording as printed there on HPD form letter. small snap on officer. referred me to SGT. JAEGER, He played his song and did his dance. In a nutshell its not HPD, its kaiser. Hell! I even told the officer to run his rap and warrant check with my permission and I would pay for it.

So trying to get Appt. with DR. G. Mailed my medical records, outside DR. letter and HPD provided toilet paper. also The Kaiser letter stating that I have no drug or mental history. Receptionist said he won't be able to see me until January, providing he will even see me.

Im running $300.00 in the hole here. Thats a quarter the price of the pistol. Not counting the USMC EGA grips I ordered in anticipation.

Still deciding if I'm staying in this half ass california wannabe chicken/bullshit state. If I stay I will join Holcomb's lawsuit and go all in for CCW.

Sorry to hear this. I turned in my letter with ALTERED wording and they accepted it - just picked up my long gun permit renewal yesterday. This is such a clusterfuck. How can HPD accept my letter, which ISN'T verbatim with their template, but then reject yours?

Update: HPD accepted my letter with the altered wording because I picked up my new long gun permit today.

So, now I think I'll contact Mr. Holcomb and see what my legal options are. The $150 I had to pay to get this letter is complete bullshit.

Edit: talked to Mr. Holcomb's paralegal(?) and he said that since I was accepted I don't really fit the type of person they needed on any litigation. They took down my contact info. and said they'll call me if need be.

I am going to have to read up on the court case and the law in question for some more context, but I am not sure if your reasoning stands, and I will explain why.

At stores or restaurants you might have seen the sign that says a restaurant reserves the right to refuse service to anyone. It does hold true according to law that a restaurant owner can refuse service to anyone, however other laws we have dictate that the refusal of service cannot be based on certain traits (protected classes). A restaurant cannot deny service to an individual because the individual is black for example even though they legally have the right to refuse service to anyone.

On top of that, even though people wishing to immigrate do not have all the rights of citizens I think the point can be made that we as the leaders of the free world and protector of freedoms also practice what we preach. That doesn't mean we just let everyone in, but it does mean having a better, more just screening method than simply whether a person is muslim or not.

Funny. You admit to not reading the legal findings in the two cited cases, but that doesn't stop you from trying to concoct some hypothetical scenario to back up your claims. Try this: read the cases, and see how they correspond to the constitutionality of the Trump's proposal and then form your argument against the legal findings in the cited decisions.

Interesting that you call me a leftist once again. I'm not a leftist at all.

Your quasi-open borders appeal makes you sound like one.

that's not what a non sequitur means at all.

you claimed government has a right.
i pointed out that governments do not have rights and gave a description of what it is governments actually have.

you are also misapplying godwin's law as the fascistic policies suggested by trump are a direct reflection of the policies enacted in Nazi Germany.

I make a point about the constitutionality of Trump's proposal and your response doesn't address that. Yeah, non sequitur.

I claimed the Government has rights? Okay, now you're setting fire to your strawman. And I didn't misapply anything. Just pointed out you using it in a debate, which you did.

do you know what a non sequitur is?

can you provide a chain of logic that provides evidence that governments have rights?

Yeah, it's the nonsense you wrote, i.e. it does not follow. I made the point that Trump's proposal isn't unconstitutional, and rather than addressing that original point , you respond with nonsensical drivel about "freedom of movement" and "government not having rights". And you threw in a silly Godwin's Law to top it off.

governments don't have rights, they have powers that they are given through their ability to threaten everyone else into letting them do.

Oh, so now you're just going to respond with non sequiturs. Got it. Supreme Court rulings on the matter are inconsequential to you.

And your whole "freedom of movement" spiel is nothing but pie-in-the-sky silliness. A country is defined by its borders. We have the right, as a sovereign nation, to determine if we want to allow foreigners in. NO ONE has the right to come here just because they want to.