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Firearms and Accessories / Re: 10/22 show off
« on: October 15, 2014, 07:58:38 AM »
some peeps going  :'(
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Firearms and Accessories / Re: Snap Caps
« on: October 15, 2014, 07:55:18 AM »
i like the tipton. got a spring in there but idk if it does anything but make me feel like it helps.
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Firearms and Accessories / Re: Post your latest purchase
« on: October 15, 2014, 07:52:07 AM »
nice guns. careful going have jealous peeps
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General Discussion / Re: When is accumulating ammo hoarding?
« on: October 10, 2014, 02:59:59 PM »
yeah water is life or death. ammo is not. hoarding thousands of rounds when u know you aint going use it all within a decent amount of time is uncool especially rounds that are in shortage. the guys i know who have 10k rounds of 22lr will have to shoot 100 rounds a day on sat and sun for 1 year of constant shooting. now if you do that much than fine but if you only shoot like 1000 for the year let other have a share of that 9000. be nice to your fellow shooters  :shaka:
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General Discussion / Re: When is accumulating ammo hoarding?
« on: October 10, 2014, 02:38:05 PM »
let me guess you those guys who buy out all the water when a hurricane is about to hit.
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General Discussion / Re: monday poll- post gun show thoughts
« on: October 10, 2014, 02:32:40 PM »
I disagree. what if we get someone from hawaii five-0 to sign autographs or something. they probably not anti-gun. that would bring in other people who not into guns. we can even educate them while they there. if we were to get james yeager that would bring in tons of people...who want to give him an earful. many say its the same ol thing and going downhill. got to try something different.
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General Discussion / Re: monday poll- post gun show thoughts
« on: October 10, 2014, 12:06:59 PM »
got to try bring mainland companies and maybe some gun celebrities like Hickok45. we should pay for his air and all expenses. then the show going be crowded
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General Discussion / Re: When is accumulating ammo hoarding?
« on: October 10, 2014, 12:03:35 PM »
i say if you cant use up all the ammo you bought after a year and you keep buying more you hoarding. i know a couple people who has 10k of 22lr when it was in shortage. i know it was a hot but damn leave some for others to play too
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Technical Support / Re: DIY
« on: September 23, 2014, 12:41:37 PM »
do you like to do it yourself?
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General Discussion / Re: How To Buy a Firearm in Hawaii...
« on: September 23, 2014, 12:32:16 PM »
how easy you think it is to find an illegal unregistered gun? not one you borrow from a legal owner. i know some of you in the gun scene it may be easy but for a non firearm enthusiast. lets say you want to start a crime life how do you find a gun to buy. go waianae and shout out you like buy? i thinks its a lot harder than people think unless you were raised that scene and guns were passed on.
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General Discussion / Re: He didn't get shot!
« on: September 22, 2014, 01:54:42 PM »
That's the problem right there:
Isn't that the purpose of laws and law enforcement, to actually deter crime? 

So, the real problem isn't that the suspect tried to hit the Cop with a car.  The real problem was that he was already a criminal (car thief), and he escalated to attempted murder to avoid getting caught (or he was just too stupid to think more than 3 seconds ahead).

If the suspect steals a car, is the answer to shoot him on sight, even IF he doesn't try to kill a Cop?  Sounds like nothing else is working to prevent crime.  Had he never stolen the car, the Cops would have been safe.  Is that not logical?

There has always been and will always be crime.  Sometimes it's justifiable (stealing to feed the family) and others it isn't (stealing to feed a habit).  Justice is supposed to fit the crime.  That's why we have judges and jurors.  Someone needs to weigh the evidence and decide on punishment accordingly.

If a Cop feels his life is in danger, AND there are no other alternatives short of taking a life, then he is justified shooting the suspect.  Deadly force should be the last resort.  Until the suspect escalates to use of deadly force, serious bodily injury, or threatens to use those, nonlethal alternatives should be employed.

i agree with most of what you said. yes laws is meant to deter crime. maybe there wouldnt have been an attempted murder case if the criminal was too scared to steal a car in the first place. however at the same time these criminals above in these specific situations took it to the next level knowing what the consequences are. they were already prepared to take it to the highest level if they were to get caught for stealing. and idk how many times i said that i dont agree they can just shoot them for stealing a car. i said they can shoot them when their life was in danger when the criminals used their car as a deadly weapon. i also disagreed that fist fighting and not using their gun in those situations are whimps. i believe that our leo/military are brave just for signing up. how u gona fist fight a car? like i said the last guy must have tried and lost.
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General Discussion / Re: He didn't get shot!
« on: September 22, 2014, 11:37:09 AM »
If trying to kill or injure a CIVILIAN carried 3 x the standard sentence of the normal sentence (special circumstances), then maybe people would be less likely to try it.
  :thumbsup:

so what, 3x a life sentence? does that really matter? in hawaii no mo death sentence so now what? in places with death sentence what you going do kill him 3x? that still dont stop people from attempting or commiting murder. if you already thinking of murdering no law is going to sway or stop you
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General Discussion / Re: He didn't get shot!
« on: September 22, 2014, 10:44:50 AM »
And people who try to hit police with a car, either while the Cops are in their cars or on foot, should be punished and given the max sentence.  If trying to kill or injure a Cop carried 3 x the standard sentence of the normal sentence (special circumstances), then maybe people would be less likely to try it.

If we adopt your thinking, Cops need to shoot BEFORE they get hurt.  So, now all suspects in a car are fair game?

Punish the few who actually use their cars as weapons.  I empathize with the police if they get hurt on the job, but such is the nature of police work.  You can't let fear dictate the laws/rules of engagement. 

We can't give Cops a free pass to shoot everyone to keep themselves safe.  In these cases you linked to, the suspects tried to use their cars as weapons.  Up to that point, they had not done anything that warranted dying over.  Car theft and running from police are not capital offenses, in case you forgot.

how much more punishment can you add to attempted manslaugher/murder and especially of a cop? these cases are not car thefts. they started as one but once they tried to run ova the cops it became attempted manslaugher/murder. if we adopt your thinking, these cops could be dead if they dont protect themselves. in fact one is in critical condition. remember these are not theft cases anymore. like i said they cant just go shooting everybody in any situation. i said once their lives are in great danger (which was when the criminals used their cars as weapons) they are waranted to shoot to protect themselves. isnt that why you guys have guns for hd?

Question for you and anyone else who disagree. when can a cop use his gun?
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General Discussion / Re: Gun Pic or Gun Related Pix Thread
« on: September 21, 2014, 05:52:02 PM »
man u guys own alot of guns.  :(
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General Discussion / Re: He didn't get shot!
« on: September 21, 2014, 05:45:57 PM »
i guess he tried to fight but lost   ::)
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Technical Support / Re: Suggestions for improving this site
« on: September 19, 2014, 01:17:57 AM »
nah man that sh*t dont bother me none. i can handle my sh*t. its an example of what goes around here. thats why is suggested to make the like button anonymous so peeps dont get feelings hurt and get pissed off. too much vendetta from the "clicks" after someone dont like what someone posted.
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Technical Support / Re: Suggestions for improving this site
« on: September 19, 2014, 12:53:18 AM »
perfect example, sh*t right above you.
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