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If you don’t believe the government wants to take away guns, this might open your eyes.

I was at a handgun training course on the mainland last week.  Standing in a line to have CCW papers notarized, I met someone with an interesting story.  The man is a Deputy Sheriff in California near the LA area.  He’s a Chaplain, so he’s not required to carry on duty.  He does, however, think it’s important to carry for self defense, plus he believes we need to take advantage of 2A before we can’t.

His story began with his brother-in-law having early onset alzheimer’s.  The county adjudicated the BIL as mentally unfit to own and possess firearms.  According to the law, he has to sell or transfer his collection of 2 dozen weapons, or surrender them to the state.  He wasn’t sure they would sell in the time allowed, and he had no relatives interested in taking them.

This deputy took his own time to drive the collection out-of-state,  The guns were transferred to an FFL who was asked to sell them on commission.  The deputy also kept all transfer records.

A few weeks later, DOJ officers called and asked him to meet 20 miles from his work to “talk” about the guns.  He said he was on duty, and would meet them at his station.  They tried to force him to meet at a place of their choosing (far away from his office and any witnesses, he believed), but he told them to meet at the Sheriff station or nowhere.  In hindsight, he believes they were hoping to claim he committed a crime (use your imagination) during the meeting which their crew would willingly back up with no independent witnesses to contradict.

The DOJ officers interrogated him alone in an interview room for an hour, trying to get him to make inconsistent answers.  He finally told them to stop the questions.  He asked them why they are treating him like a criminal and to say what was on their minds, or he’d call a lawyer.  They said there was a gun missing from the collection they wanted to account for.  He asked which one? They said a Black Hawk .44.  The deputy pulled out his paperwork, and that was #1 on the transfer list (of course it was a lie that it was missing, but first on the list was first one to come to the DOJ officer's mind).  They backtracked and said they weren’t sure which one.  It was all a story to try and pin a crime on him, or at least make him believe he’d mistakenly done something wrong.  When he asked to leave the room, they finally told him the real reason they had a problem with what he did. 

They wanted to make sure no one else in his office advised or assisted anyone in transferring weapons out of state because THEY (DOJ) WANTED THE GUNS!!  The DOJ could not find any laws the deputy had broken, but that was irrelevant.  The laws are written so it’s more likely the guns will be surrendered for destruction, which is what lawmakers and DOJ intended.  Keeping the guns in the hands of the public goes against the government’s plan, and they were trying to punish him for it.

The deputy told me flat out he will never trust our government after what they did to him and what they tried to do with his family member’s guns.

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Off Topic / FBI thwarts mass shooting at Milwaukee Masonic Temple
« on: January 26, 2016, 02:15:25 PM »
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FBI agents have interrupted what federal prosecutors describe as a planned mass shooting with automatic rifles
at a Masonic Temple in downtown Milwaukee, it was announced Tuesday.

Samy Mohamed Hamzeh, 23, has been charged with possessing machine guns and a silencer. Despite
indications of an attempted act of terrorism, Hamzeh is not charged with any terrorism counts. He appeared
in federal court in Milwaukee Tuesday and remains in custody.

"We are Muslims, defending Muslim religion, we are on our own, my dear, we have organized our own group,"
Hamzeh said, according to the criminal complaint, later adding "And we will eliminate everyone" as he described
in detail how he and others would attack the temple.

Hamzeh was planning to attack the Humphrey Scottish Rite Masonic, on N. Van Buren St., according to sources
familiar with the case. Hamzeh had scouted out the temple by taking a tour and spoke in detail about how the
attack would occur, the complaint said. A woman in the lobby of the temple Tuesday afternoon told a reporter
Tuesday that the staff had no comment.

http://www.jsonline.com/news/crime/fbi-thwarts-mass-shooting-at-milwaukee-masonic-temple-b99659005z1-366609371.html
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Political Discussion / Hawaii State Senator Gil Kahele has died
« on: January 26, 2016, 10:42:02 AM »

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HONOLULU (HawaiiNewsNow) -

Hawaii News Now has learned that Hawaii State Senator Gil Kahele has died.

The Hilo native, who represents District 1 on the Big Island of Hawaii, was first appointed to the
State Senate in 2011 by then Gov. Neil Abercrombie.



Senator Kahele was absent from the first day of the 2016 legislative session last week Wednesday
because he was hospitalized for undisclosed medical treatments.


Kahele was 73 years old.



http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/31061756/state-sen-gil-kahele-dies?sf19716800=1
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Legal and Activism / Air Force tells brass they can OK guns on base
« on: January 25, 2016, 11:13:05 PM »
Air Force tells brass they can OK guns on base, citing 2015 shooting that left 5 dead

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A review of active shooter cases by the Air Force has confirmed what gun rights advocates have long been saying:
Firearms in the hands of good guys are often the best bet for stopping massacres.

The military branch earlier this month sent out a letter to its base commanders around the nation reminding them
that they can authorize subordinates to carry guns, even while off-duty and out of uniform. It also established three
programs to help ensure that armed service members are in a position to protect their bases.

"None of these programs gives the installation commander authorizations they didn't already have the authorization
to do," Maj. Keith Quick, the Air Force Security Forces Integrated Defense action officer, said in a statement according
to Military.com. "We are now formalizing it and telling them how they can use these types of programs more effectively."


http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/01/25/air-force-tells-brass-can-ok-guns-on-base-citing-2015-shooting-that-left-5-dead.html
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Massachusetts Town Subjects Gun Permit Applicants To An Essay Portion

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Lowell, Massachusetts is going to require gun permit applicants to write an essay to explain why they’re exercising their Second Amendment rights.
If a federal judge struck down California’s 10-day waiting period for gun owners as an unconstitutional infringement on their civil rights, then this
essay portion should surely be struck down.

The policy requires anyone seeking a license-to-carry to take a gun-safety course. Anyone applying for an unrestricted gun license must state in
writing why they should receive such a license, and to provide additional documentation, such as prior military or law-enforcement service, a
prior license-to-carry permit, or signed letters of recommendation.

Critics who spoke Tuesday, and who've blasted the policy before, made one last attempt at persuading Police Superintendent William Taylor to
make it less onerous on applicants.

"I will never write an essay to get my rights as an American citizen," resident Dan Gannon said.



A state law requiring that you prove a valid "need" to carry a handgun?  That's crazy talk!   :crazy:


http://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2016/01/22/massachusetts-town-subjects-gun-permit-applicants-to-an-essay-portion-n2108196
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Off Topic / Imaginary Cops Force Drug Dealers to Turn Themselves In!!
« on: January 22, 2016, 11:05:32 PM »
If we had more criminals doing this, think how much safer we'd all be!    :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:   :thumbsup:

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10 days into new year, more than 100 people shot in Chicago

January 11, 2016

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Seven people were shot to death and 30 more were wounded across Chicago over the weekend, raising the number of
shootings in the city to more than 100 in just over a week into the new year, according to police.

The fatal shootings included two teens killed by a store clerk during a robbery in the Gresham neighborhood on
the South Side, and one of three people shot at a party four blocks from Mayor Rahm Emanuel's home.

As of Monday morning, at least 19 people have been killed in gun violence in Chicago this year and at least 101
more have been wounded, according to data compiled by the Tribune.  This time last year, nine people had been
killed and another 31 wounded, according to statistics kept by the Chicago Tribune.

Chicago police spokesman Anthony Guglielmi released a statement blaming most of the violence on "chronic
gang conflicts."

"Every year Chicago Police recover more illegal guns than officers in any other city, and as more and more
illegal guns continue to find their way into our neighborhoods it is clear we need stronger state and federal
gun laws,
" Guglielmi said in the statement. "So far this year, the majority of the gun violence we've seen are
a result of chronic gang conflicts driven in part by social media commentary and petty disputes among rival
factions. Despite an overall lack of cooperation from gang members, detectives are working aggressively
and making optimistic progress in several cases."

 :sleeping:


http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-more-than-100-people-have-been-shot-in-chicago-so-far-this-year-20160111-story.html
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Off Topic / Space Oddity ....
« on: January 11, 2016, 11:16:34 PM »
R.I.P. David Bowie....




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Published on May 12, 2013

Rest in peace, Starman.

A revised version of David Bowie's Space Oddity, recorded by Commander Chris Hadfield on board the International Space Station.

Composition: “SPACE ODDITY”
Written by David Bowie
Published by Onward Music Limited

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Legal and Activism / Constitutional Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act
« on: January 10, 2016, 10:02:41 PM »
US Senate Makes Major Announcement That Concealed Carriers Will LOVE

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With nearly 1.4 million new concealed carry permits being issued each year, it only makes sense that a
national reciprocity law be enacted to protect law-abiding holders of CCW permits to cross freely from
one state to another without worrying about breaking neighboring state’s gun laws.

Thanks to the newly GOP Senate, such a law could become a reality soon. Senate Majority Whip John
Cornyn will reintroduce the Constitutional Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act which would allow permit-holding
gun owners to carry lawfully in other states that have concealed carry laws.

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As more Americans obtain these permits, it seems like reciprocity would not only be advantageous
to an already backed-up court system, but also necessary to prevent lawful citizens from being lumped
into the same category as thieves, drug dealers and murderers.

While this type of bill has a much better chance of passage in the current Congress, there’s still a major
roadblock —  our anti-gun, anti-constitutional rights president.

If he’s willing to veto a bill like the Keystone pipeline project to keep his lefty environmentalist friends
happy, it’s doubtful he’ll look on this bill any more favorably.

Hopefully the GOP can figure out a way to attach the bill to legislation that the president would be forced
to sign — that’s probably the only way it would ever become law under this administration.

 :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

http://conservativetribune.com/senate-concealed-carriers-love/?utm_source=Facebook

2/14/2015
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Legal and Activism / I am the gun owner you hate
« on: January 10, 2016, 03:06:50 PM »
To the man I sat next to on the train:
I am the gun owner you hate


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To the man I sat next to on my way in to Boston:

When I boarded the commuter rail, you were already in the midst of a spirited phone conversation and didn’t seem to care
about how loud you were talking. You were talking with someone about the Paris train attack and the growing
epidemic of gun violence in America.

You spoke about the “murderous NRA” and “bloodthirsty gun nuts” who were causing our schools to “run red
with blood.” You spoke profanely of the Republicans who opposed President Obama’s call for “sensible gun control,"
and you lamented the number of “inbred redneck politicians” who have “infiltrated Capitol Hill.”

I found myself amazed at the irony of the situation.

......


https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/editorials/2016/01/08/man-sat-next-train-gun-owner-you-hate/w5XKxwAjcVlve2x7HfpP9O/story.html

 :thumbsup:
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[...] when comparing gun ownership to violence within a country, which often shows a "negative correlation."

"Where firearms are most dense, violent crime rates are lowest, and where guns are least dense violent crime
rates are highest," said the report.

This is the kind of study result you get when you ask honest questions.  Instead of "gun deaths" or "gun crimes", they actually looked at violence and crimes overall.

Of course if you ban guns, you'll have fewer crimes committed with them, but that does NOT look at the bigger picture:  self defense against crime and violence across the board.


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As the Daily Caller noted, this explains why many shootings take place in "gun free zones" like schools
and movie theaters rather than in police stations or gun clubs.

The study pointed out that there are 40 states that allow citizens to carry concealed handguns, which the
authors said reduced murder and violent crime.

"Adoption of state laws permitting millions of qualified citizens to carry guns has not resulted in more murder
or violent crime in these states. Rather, adoption of these statutes has been followed by very significant
reductions in murder and violence in these states," wrote the researchers.


You would think Obama would have included this study in his Gun in America Side Show last Thursday, since he also is a Harvard grad.

Oh, wait ..... agenda.  Never mind!

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The Harvard study concluded with the following warning to lawmakers who want to further regulate
gun ownership in the U.S.: "The burden of proof rests on the proponents of the more guns equal more death
and fewer guns equal less death mantra, especially since they argue public policy ought to be based on that
mantra. To bear that burden would at the very least require showing that a large number of nations with more
guns have more death and that nations that have imposed stringent gun controls have achieved substantial
reductions in criminal violence (or suicide). But those correlations are not observed when a large number of
nations are compared across the world."

http://www.hngn.com/articles/141814/20151020/harvard-gun-study-the-more-guns-the-less-criminal-activity.htm
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www.nbcnews.com/news/other/climate-change-expert-sentenced-32-months-fraud-says-lying-was-f2D11768995

Climate change expert sentenced to 32 months for fraud, says lying was a 'rush'

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The EPA’s highest-paid employee and a leading expert on climate change was sentenced to 32 months in federal prison
Wednesday for lying to his bosses and saying he was a CIA spy working in Pakistan so he could avoid doing his real job.

John C. Beale’s crimes were “inexplicable” and “unbelievably egregious," said Judge Ellen Huvelle in imposing the sentence
in a Washington. D.C. federal court. Beale has also agreed to pay $1.3 million in restitution and forfeiture to the government.

Beale said he was ashamed of his lies about working for the CIA, a ruse that, according to court records, began in 2000 and
continued until early this year.

 Beale pled guilty in September to bilking the government out of nearly $1 million in salary and other benefits over a decade.
He perpetrated his fraud largely by failing to show up at the EPA for months at a time, including one 18-month stretch starting
in June 2011 when he did “absolutely no work,” as his lawyer acknowledged in a sentencing memo filed last week.

When Huvelle asked Beale what he was doing when he claimed he was working for the CIA, he said, "I spent time exercising.
I spent a lot of time working on my house."

He also said he used the time "trying to find ways to fine tune the capitalist system" to discourage companies from damaging
the environment. "I spent a lot of time reading on that," said Beale.

 :wacko:

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Legal and Activism / Why we will never win ...
« on: January 08, 2016, 03:57:00 PM »
Why we will never win the 2A argument using facts:

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It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble.
It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.


--Mark Twain

Here's an actual exchange on Twitter I had during the Obama Circus, Guns in America Town Hall.  Makes my head hurt re-reading it!



Didn't get anymore tweets from Janny M. 
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Off Topic / INVASION ....
« on: January 06, 2016, 10:16:16 PM »
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Political Discussion / THIS is how you protest!!
« on: January 03, 2016, 06:56:20 AM »
Facebook post from Alex's wife:

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Today Alex went to the DMV to renew his license. When he was told to go have his picture taken he noticed
that there were some men having their picture taken, these men were wearing turbins on there heads.

Alex was asked to take his hat off to have his picture taken. He said “no”, and “no” again when asked the second
time. When he was asked why he would not remove his hat he said, “those men didn’t remove their head wear, I
shouldn’t either”.

It was explained that this was their attire and their religion. Alex told the DMV person that what he had on was his
attire and when he entered the Marines he declared an oath to the USA, and one nation under God, so that his
oath was under God so just as good as his religion.

Well, the DMV people didn’t know what to do, they spoke to supervisors and called Sacramento. Alex was told,
after an hour, that he could wear his hat for the picture and if there were any problems they would let him know
and he could appeal their decision. He told them if there was a problem he WILL appeal it.

Alex feels no one has more right to display their head gear then a Veteran or active service person. When he left
several employees at the DMV clapped quietly for him.




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Off Topic / HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!!!!!!!!
« on: January 01, 2016, 12:00:00 AM »
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White House: Obama Thinks Gun Control Will Deter Terrorists


The question at the end is what really bothers me. 

To make it harder for terrorists to get guns, you either have to:

(1) identify who the terrorists are before they acquire guns, or

(2) make it harder for everyone to acquire, which makes it harder for people to defend themselves against all criminals, including terrorists.

This is what we are facing this coming year .....  :shake:

And his little smirk tells me even he doesn't believe the BS he's shoveling for Obama, but he really doesn't care.  He's getting well paid, and is set for life!

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