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Events / Re: HIFICO - SSH HI Against Crime Rally 4-15-19
« Last post by zippz on Today at 10:57:08 AM »
Attended a SSH planning meeting and the rally is coming together.  There will be a stage and podium so attendees can voice their non-partisan lthoughts on crime.

There is a GoFundMe to raise funds for refreshments, signs, security, and other supplies needed for the rally. https://www.gofundme.com/hiacc

Also looking for volunteers to help with planning, logistics, security, manning tents and tables.   Need pop-up tents, tables, and ice chests.

Also looking for volunteers on the outer islands to help with the rally on those islands.
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Events / Re: HIFICO - SSH HI Against Crime Rally 4-15-19
« Last post by zippz on Today at 10:56:41 AM »
SSH is gun friendly?
Generally yes.  The founder is.

We discuss 2a stuff in the sister group SSH Off Topic.
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Legal and Activism / Re: HIFICO - SSH HI Against Crime Rally 4-15-19
« Last post by zippz on Today at 10:16:41 AM »
Attended a SSH planning meeting and the rally is coming together.  There will be a stage and podium so attendees can voice their non-partisan lthoughts on crime.

There is a GoFundMe to raise funds for refreshments, signs, security, and other supplies needed for the rally. https://www.gofundme.com/hiacc

Also looking for volunteers to help with planning, logistics, security, manning tents and tables.   Need pop-up tents, tables, and ice chests.
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Lotsa luck on dis one.
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Legal and Activism / Re: HIFICO 2019 Legislature Firearms Bills
« Last post by zippz on Today at 09:36:01 AM »
Yeah, it's too bad you can't just ask one of the legislators (committee chairpersons, etc.) who knows the reason and have them give you a simple honest answer. Obviously, that's not the way things work around here.

Corrected my post, Sb621 next deadline is April 5th.
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General Discussion / Re: Red Dot on Handgun - Sharing Experiences
« Last post by jase90 on Today at 08:12:04 AM »
Tried my friends MRD and it was fun. Huge diff. 5 yards rapid fire. With red dot, grouping was duck egg. With iron sights, grouping is jabone.

Target acqusition was a huge improvement.

Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk

Hard to go back when you can start shooting the 100 meter human size rectangular targets on the silouhette side with "boring regularity." I was even able to hit that stupid chicken twice in one magazine with the other shots not being too far off if I do my part.

Oh and those tiny 22lr targets at 50 meters. I try to beat everyone to them right after a reset lol. I need to play nicer for the kids.
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Legal and Activism / Re: HIFICO 2019 Legislature Firearms Bills
« Last post by punaperson on Today at 07:22:50 AM »
Also I wonder why SB621 isn't scheduled for a hearing with the other two firearm bills?  It's the one with the RAPBACK amendment so they could be reviewing and researching RAPBACK to schedule it by the 28th or they want to kill it and go with it's twin bill HB720
Yeah, it's too bad you can't just ask one of the legislators (committee chairpersons, etc.) who knows the reason and have them give you a simple honest answer. Obviously, that's not the way things work around here.
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I'm sending this to each of the Hawaii County Counsel members tomorrow morning asking them if they will introduce this resolution, and if not, why not? I don't expect, as is my near universal past experience, to get a response from any of them. They've got far more important things to do, like coming up with totally lame excuses as to why they continually raise every known tax (and create new ones) and raising their and the other government (union) workers salaries and current and (unfunded) retirement benefits.

Everyone please feel free to send the resolution to your county government, including others here on the Big Island... if they got it from a few hundred people they might know that at least a few people are watching their corrupt asses.

I've amended the this resolution to apply to Hawaii county, which was originally assembled and written by Dr. Dan Eichenbaum, Cherokee County North Carolina Commissioner, using constitutional law internet references and is based in part on similar ordinances and resolutions from Columbia and Josephine Counties, Oregon.

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A Resolution Declaring Hawaii County, Hawaii, a Gun Sanctuary County

On behalf of the citizens of Hawaii County, Hawaii, the Hawaii County Council states and accepts as true the following:

1. The Declaration of Independence states that people are “endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, ... to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men … deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.”

2. John Adams wrote in 1A Dissertation on the Canon and Feudal Law (1765): “I say RIGHTS, for such they (the people) have, undoubtedly, antecedent to all earthly government, Rights, that cannot be repealed or restrained by human laws, Rights derived from the great Legislator of the universe.”

3. Natural Law Rights, given to each of us by Our Creator, are the basis of our Constitution by which they are protected and secured to each of us. Natural Law Rights, including that of self-protection, are guaranteed by our Laws, our History, and our Traditions.

4. It is the natural tendency of civil government to expand beyond the limits of its rightful Constitutional authority and to usurp powers which have not been given to it through the delegated consent of the governed.

5. Whenever the uses of government are perverted, individual sovereignty is overtly endangered or threatened, and all other means of redress are ineffective, the People may, and in fact ought to, force the reestablishment of the original constitutional limits of government.

6. Resistance against arbitrary power and oppression is the obligation of every Patriot, as not to do so is destructive to the good and happiness of mankind. In fact, it is the duty of the People of Hawaii County, through the actions of their lesser magistrates, namely local elected officials and law enforcement, to challenge the civil government when and where it exceeds or threatens to exceed its bounds.

7. The Constitution of the United States is the Supreme Law of our nation.

8. The Second Amendment to the Constitution of the United States of America states: “A well-regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.”

9. The U.S. Supreme Court found in Miranda v. Arizona (1966) stated that “Where rights secured by the constitution are involved, there can be no rule making or legislation which would abrogate them.”

10. The U.S. Supreme Court in the District of Columbia v. Heller (2008) decision affirmed that the Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms is not connected in any way to service in a militia.

11. The U.S. Supreme Court in United States v. Miller (1939) stated that firearms that are part of ordinary military equipment with use that could contribute to the common defense are protected by the Second Amendment.

12. The Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States, Section 1, states: “No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”

13. The U.S. Supreme Court in the McDonald v. City of Chicago (2010) decision affirmed that a person’s Second Amendment rights to “keep and bear arms” is further secured by the “due process” and the “privileges and immunities” clauses of the Fourteenth Amendment. The decision also protects rights closely related to the Second Amendment, namely the right to manufacture, transfer, purchase, and sell firearms, accessories, and ammunition.

14. The Hawaii state Constitution, Article I, Section 17, states: “A well-regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.”

15. The Preamble of the Hawaii state constitution states “The Constitution of the United States of America is adopted on behalf of the people of the State of Hawaii.“

16. The Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States of America states: “The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”

17. The U.S. Supreme Court found in Prinz v. United States (1997) that the Federal government cannot compel law enforcement officers of the states to enforce federal laws as it would increase the power of the federal government far beyond that which the Constitution intends.

Therefore, the people of Hawaii County, Hawaii, through their duly elected officials on the County Council and their Police Chief, resolve that Hawaii County, Hawaii is hereby designated a “Gun Sanctuary County” in order to preserve for the People of, on, and in Hawaii County:

1. The unalienable right to keep and bear arms, as specified in the Second Amendment to the US Constitution, the Constitution of Hawaii, and further upheld by subsequent decisions of the US Supreme Court.

2. The right, as originally written and understood, to keep and bear arms for self-defense, personal safety, protection of one’s family, and in defense of one’s community and county.

3. The right to manufacture, transfer, purchase, and sell firearms and ammunition designed for those purposes outlined above, rights guaranteed by the US Constitution and the Constitution of Hawaii.

Furthermore, any regulation of the right to keep and bear arms or affiliated firearm rights that violates the Second, Ninth, Tenth, or Fourteenth amendments to the US Constitution, that violates Article I, Sections 17 of the Hawaii state Constitution, or that violates numerous related US Supreme Court Decisions including those listed above shall be regarded by the People of, on, or in Hawaii County to be unconstitutional, a transgression of the Supreme Law of the Land and its spirit of individual sovereignty, and, therefore by necessity, unenforceable and invalid from the outset.

Moreover, the criminal misuse of firearms is due to the fact that criminals do not obey laws and this is not a reason to abrogate or abridge the unalienable, constitutionally-guaranteed rights of law abiding citizens. The last protectors of the US Constitution are We the People of the United States and our ability to fulfill that role successfully rests on our Second Amendment rights.

Therefore, the Hawaii County Government will not authorize or appropriate government funds, resources, employees, agencies, contractors, buildings, detention centers or offices for the purpose of enforcing or assisting in the enforcement of any element of such acts, laws, orders, mandates, rules or regulations, that infringe on the right by the people to keep and bear arms as described and defined in detail above.
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Sorry no HIFICO quick forms are made, so please use the capitol website.  You can use the same testimony for SB600 as no changes were made since the last hearing.  SB1466 has some procedural changes but is essentially the same from the last hearing.  You can still submit testimony after 2pm Sunday, but it'll be marked late.
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Legal and Activism / Re: HIFICO 2019 Legislature Firearms Bills
« Last post by zippz on March 23, 2019, 11:31:00 PM »
Sorry my bad, SB621 is not scheduled for a hearing.  SB600 and SB1466 is scheduled for Monday at 2pm.  And HB720 on March 28th.

Second lateral deadline passed on Friday killing SB337 Remote testimony and SB1488 Capitol Security.  Next bill deadline is April 5th Second Decking where all bills must have gone through all their committees.

First lateral deadline for Senate concurrent resolutions is March 27th which would kill SCR 42 Repeal 2nd Amendment if not heard in committee by then.

The 2nd reading floor vote occurred in the House for SB 621 and SB1466 last week.  A bunch voted no or with reservations.  Quinlan (Get the F**k Out) voted NO on both bills.  I wonder if he is pro gun or moderate?

Also I wonder why SB621 isn't scheduled for a hearing with the other two firearm bills?  It's the one with the RAPBACK amendment so they could be reviewing and researching RAPBACK to schedule it by April 5th (corrected) or they want to kill it and go with it's twin bill HB720
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