Going to the range today a group of several MCs were riding in a pack of about 60 towards Hawaii Kai. They were blocking lanes, switching lanes a few feet in front of cars (when there was a clear lane ahead) and stunting. Very intimidating. A couple in back of the pack would pull up alongside, slow down and stare me down trying to get them to pass me. Nothing against bikers as I used to ride, but this kind of attitude ruins it for everyone.
I can imagine other cars with family, peacefully going to an outing and being intimidated by this pack.
http://nypost.com/2013/12/22/biker-gang-victim-speechless-over-attackers-reduced-charges/
There was an incident in Waimanalo where a biker was armed and the family that confronted him wasn't.
There's actually nothing we can do except drive and call 911 if the situation escalates but if we are headed to or returning from the range and the situation escalates to one akin to NY would we be justified protecting ourselves with what we have from/to the range?
Alternatives? Keep calm and chive on?

I ride very often, but I just can't stand them breaking traffic laws, blocking traffic to allow the pack to herd (especially when they are red).


Really don't give a shit if they pop wheelies on the road.

Going to the range today a group of several MCs were riding in a pack of about 60 towards Hawaii Kai. They were blocking lanes, switching lanes a few feet in front of cars (when there was a clear lane ahead) and stunting. Very intimidating. A couple in back of the pack would pull up alongside, slow down and stare me down trying to get them to pass me. Nothing against bikers as I used to ride, but this kind of attitude ruins it for everyone.
I can imagine other cars with family, peacefully going to an outing and being intimidated by this pack.
http://nypost.com/2013/12/22/biker-gang-victim-speechless-over-attackers-reduced-charges/
There was an incident in Waimanalo where a biker was armed and the family that confronted him wasn't.
There's actually nothing we can do except drive and call 911 if the situation escalates but if we are headed to or returning from the range and the situation escalates to one akin to NY would we be justified protecting ourselves with what we have from/to the range?
Alternatives? Keep calm and chive on?

Show good judgment and avoid a bad situation before it even begins I say.  I've often run into a similar situation on the H3 on Sunday until the cops started cracking down.

Show good judgment and avoid a bad situation before it even begins I say.  I've often run into a similar situation on the H3 on Sunday until the cops started cracking down.

Thats what I did as I was alone - no family. It is a bit unnerving when they make a ruckus trying to vie for attention. Maybe because Sons of Anarchy is on for a final season. 

Sunday is  "Stunt Day," a day to show off with friends.    rather have bike clubs committing traffic infractions than snatching poor old lady's purses.....

Bunch of guys crashed on the H1 west bound right before the pearl city off ramp wondering if this is the same group of bikers.

Being a rider, in the past, I think this shit is freaking stupid, suicidal even. Being on a bike makes you the most vulnerable on the street.  Bad enough just trying to stay alive amongst all the superb drivers on this island.  And these idiots want to do this kind of stuff? Freak in dumb.  That is why I never rode with any organized group. 

Can't add much to what has already been said, another than that as a rider myself I think such behavior can be ridiculous and dangerous.

Riding is dangerous. That isn't entirely the fault of the non-riders on the road, its just a fact of riding. Getting aggro about it certainly doesn't make it any safer. Trying to keep an enormous group together doesn't make it safer. This should be common knowledge and it should be well known that large groups are safer if broken into smaller ones.

But then I never understood the desire to ride in packs, anyway. I get why others might want to and why it might be fun, but a large group seems like it would be more stressful, less safe and take LONGER to get anywhere. That's not a set of reasons why I ride in the first place.

Really don't give a shit if they pop wheelies on the road.

Reading this, was curious if it was a bunch of Hardly Ablesons profiling, or squids on sport bikes.

Either way, if wheelies were going on, by definition, was not the budda-budda-budda crowd.

Back when I lived on Oahu, did see some stunting on the road through Waimanalo.  Scared me watching the squid, wondering if he would pull it off or become a greasy smear.  I guess being late teens/early twenties with no job or responsibilities makes such stuff seem like the thing to do.

For me, one broken back using back roads as a race track was enough.

Being a rider, in the past, I think this shit is freaking stupid, suicidal even. Being on a bike makes you the most vulnerable on the street.  Bad enough just trying to stay alive amongst all the superb drivers on this island.  And these idiots want to do this kind of stuff? Freak in dumb.  That is why I never rode with any organized group. 

Too true. The smallest Toyota can smear the biggest biker all over the road.
 I rode for many years and one of the reasons I don't now is the proliferation of "naturally" stupid drivers. We really don't need idiots like this that work at it.

Having a bunch of bikers trying to intimidate a normal vehicle is like little kids challenging Mike Tyson.
I say continue driving legally and not responding to their attempts to control the traffic. If they surrounded your car out of anger and were threatening well you have a 4,000 lb vehicle to defend yourself with.

just this past weekend going to the range, there were 4 bikers on stunt bikes in front of me
all the way from koko marina to the range the last guy would slow me down to about 5-10 mph
while the other 3 guys did their stunts
i was riding the guys ass about 2 inches from his bike all the way to the range.  (nh)
when i turned into the range the last guy gave me the finger and they kept going.
I hate those kind of people.

I'm not that young or flexible these days, but I might (if I had a wild hair up about then) to keep going and motion the squid into Lanai Lookout to see if he was up to a face to face with a pissed off old man.

If his buddies had scooted ahead, might have been a good laugh.  HPD might have even been understanding about it all.

Reminded me of this classic Mafia scene...sometimes punks like this and the guys messing with you need a little positive reenforcement from time to time.