GEN Honere wasn't he in charge of the Katrina recovery efforts? (Read 4755 times)

ren

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xer 21

Re: GEN Honere wasn't he in charge of the Katrina recovery efforts?
« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2015, 09:44:30 AM »
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"The best place for weapons when you're not in the field is to be locked up in the garrison," Honore' said. "Our biggest problem before Desert Storm was (soldiers) accidentally firing their weapons, and they're trained."


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training only works if you retain it.  maybe you failed at training them, general.

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"I'm not smart enough for that," he said — but he said mass shootings "are scarring our country."

you're also not smart enough to do any research before you spout off ill-informed opinions.

mauidog

Re: GEN Honere wasn't he in charge of the Katrina recovery efforts?
« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2015, 11:27:09 AM »
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"As a country we're in a state of denial because we've confused the right to bear arms with the right to carry arms all the time anywhere or anyplace you want,"

So, basically, the usefulness of a firearm for self defense is limited to your home, because, according to the General, civilians should never, under any circumstance, be allowed to "carry arms all the time anywhere or anyplace".

I'm wondering what the Army is teaching at General's school?  Does he really think the innocent victims are able to pick and choose the time and place they will need a firearm?

As far as mass shootings go, again for the ump-teenth time .... what law will prevent the shooter from bringing guns to a theater? What good are unarmed civilians against an active shooter?  I guess they can all take video to help the investigators with their reports! 

An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it.   -- Jeff Cooper

ren

Re: GEN Honere wasn't he in charge of the Katrina recovery efforts?
« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2015, 11:40:23 AM »
after reading that article again, I think it is embarrassing for a general officer to acknowledge that his soldiers aren't trained in a fundamental skill of firearms handling.
Firearms proficiency = check the block
are we soldiers or minions of Microsoft's PowerPoint?

I remember a time when ammo was counted and issued to us - then we had to turn in the exact amount.

That's why I tend to critique politicians with .mil backgrounds more critically as mil leaders come from a quasi- socialist organization. Our govt. was founded on democratic principles
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mauidog

Re: GEN Honere wasn't he in charge of the Katrina recovery efforts?
« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2015, 02:33:38 PM »
after reading that article again, I think it is embarrassing for a general officer to acknowledge that his soldiers aren't trained in a fundamental skill of firearms handling.
Firearms proficiency = check the block
are we soldiers or minions of Microsoft's PowerPoint?

I remember a time when ammo was counted and issued to us - then we had to turn in the exact amount.

That's why I tend to critique politicians with .mil backgrounds more critically as mil leaders come from a quasi- socialist organization. Our govt. was founded on democratic principles

We live in a time when we are judging everyone on objective criteria and less subjectivity.  The old military efficiency reports used to be very heavily rated on the supervisor's opinion.  Now, annual evals are based on one set of numerical criteria, and promotions have been boiled down to "do not recommend", "recommends" and "highly recommends" for promotion.  The verbiage that was intended for feedback and justification for recommendations are now reserved for semi-annual individual feedback sessions.

That entire process shows you there is more emphasis on fairness and equality than individual excellence and achievement as judged by the unit's officers.  That is very much like the objectives of Socialism.  Equal outcome for all at the expense of individual motivation and achievement.
An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it.   -- Jeff Cooper

xer 21

Re: GEN Honere wasn't he in charge of the Katrina recovery efforts?
« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2015, 05:39:29 PM »
after reading that article again, I think it is embarrassing for a general officer to acknowledge that his soldiers aren't trained in a fundamental skill of firearms handling.

this.

wirecounter

Re: GEN Honere wasn't he in charge of the Katrina recovery efforts?
« Reply #6 on: July 29, 2015, 09:27:29 PM »
Most poignant thing that General Honore said . . . Honore said he doesn't know what steps government should take tighten controls on carrying guns — "I'm not smart enough for that," he said.

Well then . . . shut the fuck up!

Inspector

Re: GEN Honere wasn't he in charge of the Katrina recovery efforts?
« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2015, 05:20:14 AM »
Well then . . . shut the fuck up!
This!  :thumbsup:
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oldfart

Re: GEN Honere wasn't he in charge of the Katrina recovery efforts?
« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2015, 06:50:42 AM »
I think the point that ren is trying to make here is that generally, Katrina disaster response was a clusterfuck.
And the good General here was a big part of the cluster...and proud of it.
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justin1098

Re: GEN Honere wasn't he in charge of the Katrina recovery efforts?
« Reply #9 on: July 30, 2015, 07:09:47 AM »
Don't forget that his soldiers were going door to door violating peoples rights so the looters would be safe.

ren

Re: GEN Honere wasn't he in charge of the Katrina recovery efforts?
« Reply #10 on: July 30, 2015, 07:09:53 AM »
I was also wondering if he had a role in confiscating firearms from the people. If so, and he ran for governor; imagine the kind of laws that will get proposed. We already have a senior field grade officer as a congressman who would gladly take your firearms away from you - because he know firearms better than you & I.
"I have a military background--that is why I don't understand why individuals need military grade weapons in their homes." - Mark Takai
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