kid shoots armed burglar (Read 10185 times)

ren

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oldfart

Re: kid shoots armed burglar
« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2016, 08:07:38 AM »
yeah, I saw that story yesterday.
Putting myself in the shoes of an 11 year old, I would probably do the same thing, almost guaranteed.
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HiCarry

Re: kid shoots armed burglar
« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2016, 09:41:11 AM »
Subsequent news stories suggest the possibility of charging the young man for shooting the burglar because there  was no threat at the time of the shooting. I bet that if he is charged the courts will give him a break because of his age.

Remember, with rare exception, you u cannot shoot someone running off with your stuff...

   

Rocky

Re: kid shoots armed burglar
« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2016, 10:12:09 AM »
12th shot ?
Another reason to not have mag limits.  :rofl:
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K30l4

Re: kid shoots armed burglar
« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2016, 08:04:11 AM »
Side note*
Same story, different outlet showed the video of the boy saying "he started crying like a little baby."


« Last Edit: May 03, 2016, 08:09:28 AM by K30l4 »

eyeeatingfish

Re: kid shoots armed burglar
« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2016, 10:53:48 PM »
Subsequent news stories suggest the possibility of charging the young man for shooting the burglar because there  was no threat at the time of the shooting. I bet that if he is charged the courts will give him a break because of his age.

Remember, with rare exception, you u cannot shoot someone running off with your stuff...

 

I think in a few states you can shoot someone fleeing with your stuff if you can say you have no other way of getting the stuff back. But yeah, in general it is hard to justify shooting a fleeing suspect.

But at this kids age how much will the courts hold him responsible for?

Inspector

Re: kid shoots armed burglar
« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2016, 06:37:24 AM »
But at this kids age how much will the courts hold him responsible for?
Depends on how Liberal the court system is there.
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Heavies

Re: kid shoots armed burglar
« Reply #7 on: May 04, 2016, 09:20:09 AM »
From that interview above, sounds like he will be just fine.  Seems like that area in this country still value citizens rights to self defense, not utterly pro criminal, like some place I know.

drck1000

Re: kid shoots armed burglar
« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2016, 09:34:22 AM »
There should be a common sense approach to situations like this.  I say that mostly jokingly, but somewhat serious.  No malicious intent by the kid.  Even if he commented that the guy "cried like a baby".  At worst, he is entitled to his opinion and more like he is just stating the facts.   ;D  Did the burglar get what he deserved?  Yup.  Sounds good to me.   ;D  :thumbsup:

That's why I can't help but shake my head when I hear stories about burglars suing, and winning, when they are attacked by household dogs.  It's simple.  Ask if the burglar should've been in the place at all?  No?  Well, you wouldn't have been bitten/mauled if you weren't in that house in the first place.  Idiot. 

eyeeatingfish

Re: kid shoots armed burglar
« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2016, 10:28:09 AM »
Depends on how Liberal the court system is there.
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Liberals go extra easy on juveniles...

Inspector

Re: kid shoots armed burglar
« Reply #10 on: May 04, 2016, 10:32:55 AM »
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Liberals go extra easy on juveniles...
Would you have understood what I said any better if I said "Depends on how conservative the court system is there"? In a bottom line situation is there really any difference in what I said?
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ren

Re: kid shoots armed burglar
« Reply #11 on: May 04, 2016, 10:44:54 AM »
Subsequent news stories suggest the possibility of charging the young man for shooting the burglar because there  was no threat at the time of the shooting. I bet that if he is charged the courts will give him a break because of his age.

Remember, with rare exception, you u cannot shoot someone running off with your stuff...

If a stranger is in MY house that is a threat. How can anyone foresee a criminal's actions? To say that he/she is just there to steal a TV is naïve. They already broke a law.
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eyeeatingfish

Re: kid shoots armed burglar
« Reply #12 on: May 04, 2016, 11:02:20 AM »
If a stranger is in MY house that is a threat. How can anyone foresee a criminal's actions? To say that he/she is just there to steal a TV is naïve. They already broke a law.

Just be aware that in the event you seriously injure a home intruder that you will have to a articulate your actions a bit more than that. If someone runs out of your house after breaking in, you cannot shoot them in the back, at least not in Hawaii.

ren

Re: kid shoots armed burglar
« Reply #13 on: May 04, 2016, 11:44:47 AM »
Just be aware that in the event you seriously injure a home intruder that you will have to a articulate your actions a bit more than that. If someone runs out of your house after breaking in, you cannot shoot them in the back, at least not in Hawaii.

Of course.
Well, if this was in Hawaii we give criminals HOPE and this

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eyeeatingfish

Re: kid shoots armed burglar
« Reply #14 on: May 04, 2016, 07:22:07 PM »
Of course.

Not to suggest you don't know that or anything but just a comment to whoever may be reading this they understand the need to be able to explain what they are going to do.

HiCarry

Re: kid shoots armed burglar
« Reply #15 on: May 05, 2016, 11:15:12 AM »
I think in a few states you can shoot someone fleeing with your stuff if you can say you have no other way of getting the stuff back. But yeah, in general it is hard to justify shooting a fleeing suspect.

But at this kids age how much will the courts hold him responsible for?
Most people think of Texas when the subject of shooting someone over "stuff" comes up. And, even in Texas, there are restrictions: the perp has to be stealing your stuff after dark and you have to articulate that you didn't think you could replace it. I think....I didn't try to look up the actual statue

HiCarry

Re: kid shoots armed burglar
« Reply #16 on: May 05, 2016, 11:18:24 AM »
From that interview above, sounds like he will be just fine.  Seems like that area in this country still value citizens rights to self defense, not utterly pro criminal, like some place I know.
The kid got the first shot off after the perp was out of the house and running down the street. There was no imminent threat and at least some of the rounds impacted neighbor's property.

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Once the man made it outside, Chris fired a warning shot. The man, who was carrying a stolen laundry hamper, began running. Chris emptied the magazine, firing off 12 shots by the time the intruder neared a fence in the family’s front yard, the 11-year-old told the station.

The final shot hit the man in the leg as he was hopping the fence, the boy said.
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Heavies

Re: kid shoots armed burglar
« Reply #17 on: May 05, 2016, 11:22:20 AM »
The kid got the first shot off after the perp was out of the house and running down the street. There was no imminent threat and at least some of the rounds impacted neighbor's property.
Not that I condone shooting a guy in the back, just that common sense rule, (a repeat offender of that same place, saying 'im gonna kill you', etc.) is still valued in that area.

One shouldn't shoot a person fleeing. 

HiCarry

Re: kid shoots armed burglar
« Reply #18 on: May 05, 2016, 11:29:11 AM »
If a stranger is in MY house that is a threat. How can anyone foresee a criminal's actions? To say that he/she is just there to steal a TV is naïve. They already broke a law.
Therein lays the problem....if a bad guy is in your house and is carrying your TV out it will be difficult to articulate that there was some imminent danger to yourself. That is not to say that if the perp drops the TV and draws a knife and advances on you that you cannot employ deadly force. But, unless you live in a state that has a presumption that anyone in your house uninvited or who enters through force has a deadly intent, then you will have to articulate why you felt the person was a danger and let the court decide if they believe you.

HiCarry

Re: kid shoots armed burglar
« Reply #19 on: May 05, 2016, 11:30:28 AM »
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Liberals go extra easy on juveniles...
Only if the kid is a gang member with a gun...a "good" kid who's gun nut father taught him to shoot poor, disadvantaged criminals....who knows what might happen....